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fp4 12-27-2013 03:23 AM

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Posted by MattKan (Post 439136)
Can the furniture inventory cap be removed? Frankly I've always thought that was stupid because the furniture inventory doesn't seem to have any issues handling a high furniture load yet the cap for buying furniture is extremely small.

It's more so to protect players from buying too much inventory and potentially losing it, however it can definitely handle more than the cap of 30. So I doubled the limit to 60.

metal 12-27-2013 05:25 AM

Key blocks sometimes take wrong answers as correct. :(

4-Lom 12-27-2013 07:27 AM

they also sometimes freeze up and take no answer...

twilit 12-27-2013 07:12 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 439135)
I mean, I have seen people with a lot of furniture. If anyone else has a lot you can PM me as well so I can compare and see if there is actually a cap going on here and not something more major.

I think it's just an unprotected cap because when I moved furniture to a different room and added some back to the "full room," it worked fine until it reached the cap again.

Tricxta 12-28-2013 11:18 PM

Not sure if it was intended but you can't equip two loot items. "Cannot equip the same item to both slots". Perhaps you could compare item names not weapon names? Not sure why this was even put in place.

4-Lom 12-29-2013 03:34 AM

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Posted by Tricxta (Post 439674)
Not sure if it was intended but you can't equip two loot items. "Cannot equip the same item to both slots". Perhaps you could compare item names not weapon names? Not sure why this was even put in place.

Comes from a fix that Dusty did on mounts a month or more ago, I believe...
There was issue with equipping two different mounts and switching between them...

Dusty 12-29-2013 05:07 AM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 439714)
Comes from a fix that Dusty did on mounts a month or more ago, I believe...
There was issue with equipping two different mounts and switching between them...

I did it just to alleviate any potential problems(it was added alongside the generated icons for bombs/horses). Loot was originally coded to handle two equipped Loot, but after I made that change I just made it so Loot followed the same rules.

MattKan 12-30-2013 09:34 PM

Not a bug but didn't think it was necessary to make a new thread:

Can a button be added to swap the two equipped items? (don't ask lol)

Thallen 12-31-2013 01:00 AM

I've reported it 100 times, but there is still a glitch that exists that allows you to destabilize your spar rating deviation and reset it to 350, essentially allowing people to completely ruin the spar leaderboards.

When you log on to the same account from 2 devices at the same time, it will reset your rating deviation, but not your rating. Basically, you can win a spar, reset it, win a spar, reset it, repeat, and this way get an outrageous amount of points and saturate the entire rating pool. People have been abusing it forever and sparring sucks enough as it is right now, so this could use fixing.

I assume the glitch has to do with the fact that you have 2 different ratings (one per device type, PC and iDevice), if that helps you in fixing it. Maybe just timestamp when someone has last had 350, and if they have it again within 10-20 days then it's being abused.

MattKan 12-31-2013 05:20 PM

http://puu.sh/64Lne.png

On Facebook sometimes the trees don't load. It's weird, it's just the trees.

Thallen 01-01-2014 12:15 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 440178)
I've reported it 100 times, but there is still a glitch that exists that allows you to destabilize your spar rating deviation and reset it to 350, essentially allowing people to completely ruin the spar leaderboards.

When you log on to the same account from 2 devices at the same time, it will reset your rating deviation, but not your rating. Basically, you can win a spar, reset it, win a spar, reset it, repeat, and this way get an outrageous amount of points and saturate the entire rating pool. People have been abusing it forever and sparring sucks enough as it is right now, so this could use fixing.

I assume the glitch has to do with the fact that you have 2 different ratings (one per device type, PC and iDevice), if that helps you in fixing it. Maybe just timestamp when someone has last had 350, and if they have it again within 10-20 days then it's being abused.

A screenshot of what I'm referring to, since it was easy to predict that certain scrubs would abuse it for attention (XDDD):
http://puu.sh/64UTr.jpg

http://puu.sh/654XF.jpg

Second player in the second screenshot is not in the first screenshot because he used the glitch to reset his rating deviation to 350, then boosted repeatedly. You only appear on leaderboards when your rating deviation falls below 80.

I have no interest in sparring while the server's lag is in the condition that it's in lately, but if anyone cares enough to try and force it to be fixed then I'd probably just suggest abusing the glitch over and over until the whole leaderboard and pool of rating is effectively ruined, because that's what's happening anyway. GL!

Aaron 01-01-2014 01:07 AM

Lol, don't spar much anymore, but from what I see, it's almost as bad as Delteria's spar system. And that's pretty bad.

But really, I honestly wonder if this issue will get any attention since Rufus is gone. Unless there's other staff members who care about spar and it's issues. Hats off to Thallen though, presenting the issue and explaining it without a single exclamation point.

http://i.imgur.com/wnChBl9.jpg

Dusty 01-01-2014 01:17 AM

The issue is sadly I don't like to mess around in territory I don't fully understand. Not specifically sparring, but what the system does for spar deviation and such, why it would be resetting and all. It leaves a very large margin for me to **** up, and I tend to not like to take those odds.

Thallen 01-01-2014 03:55 AM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 440555)
The issue is sadly I don't like to mess around in territory I don't fully understand. Not specifically sparring, but what the system does for spar deviation and such, why it would be resetting and all. It leaves a very large margin for me to **** up, and I tend to not like to take those odds.

I can't tell you what it is doing exactly, but I can tell you that the glitch is performed by logging onto the same account with two separate devices at the same time.

The spar points system seems to be almost a direct relationship with Graal's built-in spar rating system. The person who has the highest rating on the server will also have the higher points on the server (I believe). If you know how Graal rating itself works, the second number (in 1500/350) is the rating deviation. The higher it is, the less frequently it is that you spar, thus the more points you get from a spar. If you beat someone with 2100 rating when you have 1500/350, you'll skyrocket to 2250/280 (roughly, depending on many factors). As you spar more, your rating deviation continues to go down, to a minimum of 75, and you gain less rating per win.

Basically, having a rating deviation that constantly resets to 350 is a destabilization of your rating. You get an insane amount for winning, because the game assumes that it is your first spar so it needs to immediately seed you at an appropriate rating. When you spar a lot, it falls to a minimum of 75 in assumption that it has corrected your rating and it's an accurate reflection of what you should have over a long period of sparring.

Anyway, the glitch constantly resets your rating deviation to 350, but does not reset your actual rating (the first number). So, you win once, get 2300/280 for the win (just an example), then you use the glitch and you're at 2300/350. Then you just repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and get an insane rating, because you're a cheating douchebag who is bad at spar.

The highest achievable spar rating on iClassic, to my knowledge, is 2999. However, points continue to go up beyond that. I dunno why it resets your rating to */350 when you log on two devices using the same account, but if I had to guess I'd say it has to do with the fact that iClassic assigns you 2 different ratings: one for mobile devices and one for PC.

If it can't be fixed, I think it'd at least be worth it to ban and/or reset players who constantly abuse it.

4-Lom 01-01-2014 04:15 AM

The fireworks don't "Duplicate" with the furniture hold-button-to-duplicate feature :)

Aaron 01-01-2014 05:09 AM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 440555)
The issue is sadly I don't like to mess around in territory I don't fully understand. Not specifically sparring, but what the system does for spar deviation and such, why it would be resetting and all. It leaves a very large margin for me to **** up, and I tend to not like to take those odds.

Let Thallen tell you how to fix it.

SexyBeast 01-03-2014 06:52 PM

In the Balambag spar arena, Bombs can be thrown into the arena while players are sparring. (andriod) Unfortunately, many players have discovered this and it is VERY distracting.

Dusty 01-03-2014 07:35 PM

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Posted by SexyBeast (Post 441360)
In the Balambag spar arena, Bombs can be thrown into the arena while players are sparring. (andriod) Unfortunately, many players have discovered this and it is VERY distracting.

I'm not sure how as it's a no-PK area, but maybe it's fixed now.

Fire Surge 01-03-2014 09:57 PM

You know the Christmas-themed drasine? When you use it in water it will say something like "You can't use this drasine in the water!" and a picture of the drasine will appear at the bottom of your screen. The drasine picture has a green button color, while it has a blue one on the side. I'm guessing that the side and bottom uses two different images.

Eugeen 01-05-2014 03:09 PM

Bug or not this still annoys me:

Furniture on layer 3 is always above the light bulb shadow/light/darkness whatever...

4-Lom 01-06-2014 03:34 AM

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Furniture on layer 3 is always above the light bulb shadow/light/darkness whatever...
PLEASE don't change that...! Looks awesome on a dark background!!!

ufoburan 01-06-2014 06:51 AM

Not really sure if a bug just wondering tho. Why does my UFO 1k hat not show up on my player card on here?

Eugeen 01-06-2014 07:22 AM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 442440)
PLEASE don't change that...! Looks awesome on a dark background!!!

Well i dislike it cus its weird that its above the darkness and shouldnt be like that in my opinion and a little more realistic opinion :/

Imprint 01-06-2014 09:20 PM

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Posted by Unknown (Post 442607)
There is also bad things about PC emoticons though. I have gotten so used to doing ctrl W on the PC game to wink that now when I do it I close my browser all the time accidentally. I keep telling myself not to do it but I always do it..

Saw this in another thread and remembered how annoying it is :). Is there any other key wink can be bound to?

Shmegg 01-06-2014 09:45 PM

If you log out of your house with an umbrella in use and log back on, it will say you can't leave your house until you dismount your mount until you open the umbrella and close it again.

MattKan 01-06-2014 10:29 PM

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Posted by Imprint (Post 442626)
Saw this in another thread and remembered how annoying it is :). Is there any other key wink can be bound to?

Same with Ctrl + T (at least on Google Chrome that opens a new tab)

twilit 01-07-2014 02:28 AM

The "disable offline PMs" doesn't work [for me]. Recently turned it on and I still log on with offline PMs...

4-Lom 01-08-2014 01:43 PM

This one has bothered me for ages!

I play on PC, idk if it will work for device people...
If I am holding a direction, then press 'tab' to chat while holding the direction
and then type whatever chat, and press 'enter' to say the chat over my head without holding down a direction my character will continue to move in the same direction until I press the same direction button again!!

Santa Claus 01-09-2014 05:15 AM

thread pms has a issue when you are talking to a person and you have their pms or thread up and they type it knocks you off from typing and makes you have to reclikck and try to type the message again and if they use the guild message or pms it will knock you off from typing again.

Please fix this issue. been like this for a week

Eugeen 01-09-2014 10:29 PM

Better late than never! (Could the guy be moved to the right part of the counter?

HON3Y BADG3R 01-09-2014 11:16 PM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 443085)
This one has bothered me for ages!

I play on PC, idk if it will work for device people...
If I am holding a direction, then press 'tab' to chat while holding the direction
and then type whatever chat, and press 'enter' to say the chat over my head without holding down a direction my character will continue to move in the same direction until I press the same direction button again!!

DO NOT CHANGE THIS! dusty pls

Dusty 01-09-2014 11:28 PM

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Posted by HON3Y BADG3R (Post 443504)
DO NOT CHANGE THIS! dusty pls

Now I pretty much have to.

4-Lom 01-11-2014 03:43 PM

I seem to be able to hold bugs aloft while swimming...
I tried with loot and other items, but all other items that you can hold up in the air didn't have the same issue... apparently I can use the flute while swimming too (what a feat!) though still can't hear it on PC... I did notice I can hear the 'snow' music now, though!

Also can't hear music tiles, though piano is audible!

And in regards to PC flute issues - first tap of the flute brings up the semi transparent flute head in the middle of my screen with the tappable flute (can only assume it plays music when tapped). When I tap the flute again to stop playing, the head disappears but I am left with these nifty device buttons appearing on the bottom left of my screen :P

-Albus 01-13-2014 12:36 AM

Not sure if this has been reported but you can't hear the flute sounds on the facebook client.

ufoburan 01-13-2014 07:18 AM

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Posted by -Albus (Post 444401)
Not sure if this has been reported but you can't hear the flute sounds on the facebook client.

That's not always a bad thing.

-Albus 01-16-2014 12:22 PM

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Posted by ufoburan (Post 444512)
That's not always a bad thing.

Well I found this really cool guy who was playing some Final Fantasy music on his flute. Luckily I caught him again and opened the game up on my android and was able to hear him, but I still can't hear flute noises on the facebook client.

4-Lom 01-19-2014 10:59 AM

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Posted by -Albus (Post 444401)
Not sure if this has been reported but you can't hear the flute sounds on the facebook client.

Did you do that just for me...? I mentioned it in the post just above yours, there... not sure if getting my point emphasized or being ignored on purpose :sarcastic:

Hugop 01-20-2014 07:03 PM

Lol so many bugs
If you reset game in fabebook too fast, bugs disappear.
If you are lagging and have unlocked gralats in your house, you can take it, go off and you have it in your house and status.
If you leave house with lag, you can use bombs in city

4-Lom 01-21-2014 02:09 PM

When I ate a candy (from christmas gifts... who gives candies at christmas... i mean really!) it made my character go all funky... pushing in random directions... I am guessing the gani has an issue? Or was this intentional?

Eugeen 01-21-2014 04:29 PM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 446984)
When I ate a candy (from christmas gifts... who gives candies at christmas... i mean really!) it made my character go all funky... pushing in random directions... I am guessing the gani has an issue? Or was this intentional?

It's a sugar boost so yes this is intentional and if you eat around 8 candy you will start getting damage from them because you will get too much sugar in your body :p

*whatzgoingon 01-21-2014 04:52 PM

My Graal's just giving me a black screen whenever I try to log on.
halp halp, please

Livid 01-21-2014 07:01 PM

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Posted by *whatzgoingon (Post 447010)
My Graal's just giving me a black screen whenever I try to log on.
halp halp, please

Should work, if not restart your PC

*whatzgoingon 01-21-2014 09:21 PM

SHOULD work, but it does not, that's why I'm posting here.

Dusty 01-21-2014 09:23 PM

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Posted by *whatzgoingon (Post 447048)
SHOULD work, but it does not, that's why I'm posting here.

Facebook? Try hitting ctrl+f5

Chris JD 01-21-2014 09:45 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 447049)
Facebook? Try hitting ctrl+f5

I have the same problem, just tried that and it didn't work

Blueh 01-22-2014 03:26 AM

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Posted by *whatzgoingon (Post 447048)
SHOULD work, but it does not, that's why I'm posting here.

Wait, you were a girl this WHOLE time? For some reason i always thought you were a guy. I'm so bad at this .-.

*whatzgoingon 01-22-2014 05:41 AM

I wasn't aware I came off as manly.

Ctrl+F5 does not fix it for me.

Thallen 01-22-2014 11:18 PM

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Posted by *whatzgoingon (Post 447156)
I wasn't aware I came off as manly.

Ctrl+F5 does not fix it for me.

try in another browser and tell me if that works
if it does, you can run something like CCleaner to clear your temporary files, cache, cookies, etc. and it should work fine in your original browser

if it doesn't work in an alternative browser then you probably need to clear your Flash cookies
PM me your Skype if you want me to help you do that

Blueh 01-23-2014 03:57 AM

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Posted by *whatzgoingon (Post 447156)
I wasn't aware I came off as manly.

If it makes you feel any better one time this one guy came up to me and started humping my character and PMing me dirty things while I just stood there, then he stopped and was like: "Wtf I thought you were a girl" then cussed at me and blocked me then ran away. True story :o

Mizochi 01-27-2014 10:16 PM

Cant touch player names on leaderboards for pk or spar on android galaxy s2


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