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Blueh 02-12-2013 12:51 AM

A message from Satan:

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Posted by Satan
See you real soon! ;)


Xavier 02-12-2013 12:52 AM

I'm not reading 7 pages of this thread, so here's really the only differences from a non-bias point of view:

PC:

- Can wall run.
- Can quickly switch direction since the user does not have to slide their thumb from one "button" to another.

iDevice: More stable client.

/end of thread

Please???

Thallen 02-12-2013 04:10 AM

I feel like I've put together a thesis paper on this topic already, but I'm still determined to achieve the impossible and convince very unintelligent people of obvious things that I've already stated a dozen times.

If you've ever misinterpreted me as saying that I do not personally share the opinion that it is easier to spar on Facebook than it is on the iOS app, then you aren't reading my posts correctly.

I very clearly think that. Why would I spar on Facebook otherwise? Several other people in this thread have made the argument that they are both equally as easy to spar on, and that's fine. It's really a preference and opinion. Do you understand that? I will quote an analogy I used with Ash "I've never been a good sparrer in my life" Ketchum:
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Posted by Thallen (Post 296188)
You should try going to a bowling alley wearing bunny slippers and then cry your delicious tears about how unfair the game is when everyone else is wearing bowling shoes.

Do you need more analogies on this very specific and integral point of the argument? Are my posts too technical or something?

You guys continue to point out the claimed advantages that PC has over iDevice. Yup, PCers can strafe. Yup, some would argue that the keyboard is a better peripheral for sparring that the touchscreen.

ATTENTION
So why are you using an iDevice to spar?!
ATTENTION

You guys have repeatedly refused to answer the question. I've quoted the following post about five additional times:
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Posted by Thallen (Post 295527)
"Let's spar. You spar on whatever device you're the best on, and I'll do the same."

Explain to me how you counter that statement and use the device you or your opponent is using as a crutch and excuse.

And again, as I've said 20 times before, it is for one of three possible reasons:
  1. You do not own a PC, which is no one's fault but your own
  2. You are a better iDevice sparrer than you are on PC, which is no one's fault but your own
  3. You fiend some sense of pride in sparring (and apparently losing) on iDevice, which is no one's fault but your own

When we reach that point of the argument, it is over with. You've admitted and acknowledged that you're aware that you can play the game as (in your opinion) advantaged as every other player, yet you continue to intentionally disadvantage yourself. That is the behavior of a loser, someone who is unconfident, and someone who knows they are not good and needs some awful crutch. You've realized that you are not a good sparrer and create a fantasy land in your own mind where you are a great sparrer simply because you use a certain device to spar on.

And now, allow me to predict the future:
  • Someone will come into the thread claiming that PC is an advantaged device, completely ignoring everything I've just said
  • Someone will come into this thread claiming that they spar on iDevice so it's "fair", completely ignoring everything I've just said
  • Someone will come into this thread suggesting I defy their own logic by sparring on an iDevice, completely ignoring everything I've just said
  • Very bad sparrers (such as GOAT, Ash Ketchum, Goten) will never be able to take responsibility for how bad they are at this game and blame themselves rather than the rules
  • I will continue winning spars while the aforementioned players are upset, confused, and in denial over their own failures in a 5-button game

The argument has been over and won for the longest time, I am just being very generous and taking my time with multiple different vantage points to try and convince a few people how very unintelligent and uncompetitive they are. I recommend Graal dating, button-mashing at forts, and collecting hats.

GotenGraal 02-12-2013 06:30 AM

Are you stupid? You're only 2 points are stop whining and why don't you use pc? You can't even argue all the crap that got thrown at you, stop acting like you won anything.

Thallen 02-12-2013 07:49 AM

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Posted by GotenGraal (Post 297341)
Are you stupid? You're only 2 points are stop whining and why don't you use pc? You can't even argue all the crap that got thrown at you, stop acting like you won anything.

Carefully notice how he refuses to answer any of the questions asked.

Thallen 02-12-2013 09:26 AM

Only thing you're settling is an eventual permanent IP ban, by the looks of it.

Also:
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Posted by Thallen (Post 297289)
And now, allow me to predict the future:
  • Someone will come into the thread claiming that PC is an advantaged device, completely ignoring everything I've just said
  • Someone will come into this thread claiming that they spar on iDevice so it's "fair", completely ignoring everything I've just said
  • Someone will come into this thread suggesting I defy their own logic by sparring on an iDevice, completely ignoring everything I've just said
  • Very bad sparrers (such as GOAT, Ash Ketchum, Goten) will never be able to take responsibility for how bad they are at this game and blame themselves rather than the rules
  • I will continue winning spars while the aforementioned players are upset, confused, and in denial over their own failures in a 5-button game

TOOOOOOOOOOOO EASY

GotenGraal 02-12-2013 12:21 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 297366)
Carefully notice how he refuses to answer any of the questions asked.

Okay, first off the only idiot here is you actually denying pc's don't have the advantage. Tyler even proved it with his video, and there were many points stated also. All you could comeback is "you're an idiot" but you wrote out a long ass post basically just saying this wasting everyone's time because you're posts aren't containing any actual defensive arguments.

Second why don't I use a pc? What kind of stupid question is that, I started iClassic on my iPod and I will continue to use an iDevice. This is iClassic key letter "i". Do I honestly care enough to start taking advantage of pc delay to play graal to increase my stats? No.

Thallen 02-12-2013 12:24 PM

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Posted by GotenGraal (Post 297415)
Okay, first off the only idiot here is you actually denying pc's don't have the advantage.

This is where I stopped reading. That's right, the first sentence.

Thallen, just three posts ago, in bolded text:
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Posted by Thallen (Post 297289)
If you've ever misinterpreted me as saying that I do not personally share the opinion that it is easier to spar on Facebook than it is on the iOS app, then you aren't reading my posts correctly.

I very clearly think that. Why would I spar on Facebook otherwise? Several other people in this thread have made the argument that they are both equally as easy to spar on, and that's fine. It's really a preference and opinion.

Like I said, the argument is over. I'm just going back and forth with you guys at this point for comedic value and the entertainment of others.

GotenGraal 02-12-2013 12:55 PM

No, there was never a "legit" argument because you never had a "legit" reason.

GOAT 02-12-2013 06:17 PM

Quote:

Posted by Thallen (Post 297289)
If you've ever misinterpreted me as saying that I do not personally share the opinion that it is easier to spar on Facebook than it is on the iOS app, then you aren't reading my posts correctly.

Ok agreed it’s easier to spar on pc do to controls/whatever GOAT-1 Noobs-0

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Posted by Thallen (Post 297289)
I very clearly think that. Why would I spar on Facebook otherwise? Several other people in this thread have made the argument that they are both equally as easy to spar on, and that's fine. It's really a preference and opinion. Do you understand that? I will quote an analogy I used with Ash "I've never been a good sparer in my life" Ketchum:

Maybe the fact that you have a descent computer at home that gives you a performance advantage or maybe you have played graal with a iDevice and realized that you’re an avg sparer. Someone told me to ask you about your 4k-2k ipod account?

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Posted by Thallen (Post 297289)
You should try going to a bowling alley wearing bunny slippers and then cry your delicious tears about how unfair the game is when everyone else is wearing bowling shoes.

Do you need more analogies on this very specific and integral point of the argument? Are my posts too technical or something?

You got your story backwards. That analogy would only work if iPhoners would make the jump to pc graal with their iphones.
Try this next time. I was at the bowling alley playing with my bunny slippers and out of nowhere some noobs with bowling shoes showed up. Grrrr wtf noobs they said this was a bunny slipper league. Lol you always word your statements with the wrong sense of direction that’s why you continue to lose old timer

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Posted by Thallen (Post 297289)
ATTENTION
So why are you using an iDevice to spar?!
ATTENTION

Has nothing to do with the argument in hand

Quote:

Posted by Thallen (Post 297289)
You guys have repeatedly refused to answer the question. I've quoted the following post about five additional times:
"Let's spar. You spar on whatever device you're the best on, and I'll do the same."

Explain to me how you counter that statement and use the device you or your opponent is using as a crutch and excuse.?[B]
And now to your so called shut down statement.


1. sounds like a contradiction to your previous stament
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Posted by Thallen (Post 292231)
I would like to see some of the iDevices mentioned in this post come spar on PCs and see how good they really are?

2.the point of the argument is that pc have a performance/speed advantage over most devices so how is this statement bring any light to the subject?
3.now lets fleep the script find someone’s idevice and you can spar my pc so you can see that youre full of bs mamba jaba.

Thallen 02-12-2013 06:20 PM

GOAT manages to embarrass himself in front of the masses once again. It never ends, folks.
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Posted by his signature
Not everyone takes advantage of their free education


Craig 02-12-2013 06:32 PM

GOAT never embrassed hisself, he's got his points.

Thallen 02-12-2013 06:36 PM

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Posted by Prynce (Post 297478)
GOAT never embrassed hisself, he's got his points.

You don't do so well with points when it comes to sparring, so let's all take that opinion with a grain of salt.

Craig 02-12-2013 06:50 PM

Man, you're cool. Coming along with the same arguement over and over, though it's not even a serious evidence. But hey, just keep running away when I'm asking you to series, both of us know you're just.. horrible. :](Well, I'm pretty sure you do know that too, but you'll never say that in public.)
And 8200+ is pretty nice, isn't it? I used my PC advantages to get it, thanks. :]

Thallen 02-12-2013 06:54 PM

Quote:

Posted by Prynce (Post 297478)
GOAT never embrassed hisself, he's got his points.

Quote:

Posted by Thallen (Post 297481)
You don't do so well with points when it comes to sparring, so let's all take that opinion with a grain of salt.

Just requoting this so that it's at the top of the page so people can see the type of personalities we have in this argument. GOAT, Ash Ketchum, Goten, and Prynce: true contributors, saviors, and highly-skilled individuals in the sparring community.


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