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Thallen 06-25-2016 02:48 PM

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Posted by Striken (Post 717554)
The question is, what made you idiots ban her at this point, and not before?

That's really what I mean. Bans for lagging are discretion-based bans.

It's like if we didn't have speed limit signs. There would be police officers who stop people going 60, some who stop you at 70, some at 80, etc. How the hell does someone know what speed is over the limit?

I'm ranting at this point, but I'll reiterate that I think there needs to be a scripted warning system in place. I'm pretty sure just about everyone who has ever been banned for lagging would not have been banned for it if they knew they were at risk for being banned for it. Warping a player, disconnecting them, or even warning them for "game disruption" is extremely vague. It would defeat that issue and the issue of GPs being able to essentially ban anyone they want with the excuse that they were lagging.

Saber Alumba 06-25-2016 02:54 PM

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Posted by Striken (Post 717554)
The question is, what made you idiots ban her at this point, and not before?

Probably because she's on a 2 month HOLIDAYto Egypt where she has added quite a noticeable amount of lag onto her usually delay.

Or maybe because she used vpn a couple of times when she first went to Egypt to spar and gain points , pretty sure she openly admitted it and sparring on vpn is clearly breaking the rules although she had a semi valid reason to do it

Sarah_ 06-25-2016 03:07 PM

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Posted by Saber Alumba (Post 717564)
Probably because she's on a 2 month HOLIDAYto Egypt where she has added quite a noticeable amount of lag onto her usually delay.

Or maybe because she used vpn a couple of times when she first went to Egypt to spar and gain points , pretty sure she openly admitted it and sparring on vpn is clearly breaking the rules although she had a semi valid reason to do it

I had 100% reason to do it lol why would I vpn if my pts were added properly? Plus you are complaining about me using a French vpn? I got 230 ms with the vpn and without it I get 400++ ms I can record it at any time. Obviously you aren't looking to what's fair and what's not fair you just want me banned. So you prefer to spar me with more ms right?

Also rimaz (the only Egyptian sparrer that I know) got banned for lagging. I don't even know why I'm banned, I assume it's lag but on my screen there was none.

Saber Alumba 06-25-2016 03:20 PM

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Posted by Sarah_ (Post 717572)
I had 100% reason to do it lol why would I vpn if my pts were added properly? Plus you are complaining about me using a French vpn? I got 230 ms with the vpn and without it I get 400++ ms I can record it at any time. Obviously you aren't looking to what's fair and what's not fair you just want me banned. So you prefer to spar me with more ms right?

Also rimaz (the only Egyptian sparrer that I know) got banned for lagging. I don't even know why I'm banned, I assume it's lag but on my screen there was none.

I did say you had a semi valid reason , however weather you had a reason or not it's still agains the rules to vpn and it applies applies to everyone no matter the reason . At no point did I complain about you using a vpn I simply suggested it could be a reason for your ban , don't be so offensive about it as it was clearly something you have done. I couldn't care less if you are banned as I don't spend my time in graal unless it's gst month really.

Sarah_ 06-25-2016 03:37 PM

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Posted by Saber Alumba (Post 717574)
I did say you had a semi valid reason , however weather you had a reason or not it's still agains the rules to vpn and it applies applies to everyone no matter the reason . At no point did I complain about you using a vpn I simply suggested it could be a reason for your ban , don't be so offensive about it as it was clearly something you have done. I couldn't care less if you are banned as I don't spend my time in graal unless it's gst month really.

No, I did that the last season and I got banned this season twice in less than a week for nothing I'm sure it's because of the mass reporting that they started.

You shouldn't even be talking, I clearly recorded you saying that I'm lagging terribly and you clearly stated "lag not delay" when I had 0 lag in the video I posted. You're part of that group who wants me banned for nothing. And you did get me warped out of spar when I didn't even lag.

Why would someone get banned if they vpned and didn't do activities or the vpn they used made them less laggy? You aren't looking whether the person is trying to cheat by fake lagging or not you're more like you vpned you should be banned.
I'll post a video proof that the vpn made me way less laggy and if staff allows me to spar on the French vpn again I will.

Saber Alumba 06-25-2016 03:52 PM

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Posted by Sarah_ (Post 717582)
No I did that the last season and I got banned twice in less than a week for nothing I'm sure it's because of the mass reporting that the started.
You shouldn't even be talking, I clearly recorded you saying that I'm lagging terribly and you clearly stated "lag not delay" when I had 0 lag on the video I posted. You're part of that group who wants me banned for nothing.

Why would someone get banned if they vpned and didn't do activities or the vpn they used made them less laggy? You aren't looking whether the person is trying to cheat by fake lagging or not you're more like you vpned you should be banned.
I'll post a video proof that the vpn made me way less laggy and if staff allows me to spar on the French vpn again I will.

Yes in part of the group that thinks your delay plus and Egyptian lag is too unfair in the community ? It's not a unpopular though amongs players and you were clearly lagging when I said it , providing a video of one spar does not denote how much and often you lag. And yes at that point I was complaining at your lag and not your delay as I have never complained about your delay as it's not something in your control , however playing whilst lagging is something that in my opinion is under your control and you should be accountable for.

Sarah_ 06-25-2016 04:00 PM

Nope, I wasn't lagging when you said that, I'll post these videos by the end of the day.

Saber Alumba 06-25-2016 04:14 PM

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Posted by Sarah_ (Post 717587)
Nope, I wasn't lagging when you said that, I'll post these videos by the end of the day.

Yes considering you condensed about 1-2 hours off footage into 1 1/2 matches and everyone else was saying you was lagging not just me , because your the princess of graal you was clearly no lagging because you're perfect in every way !

Reemas 06-25-2016 04:39 PM

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Posted by iBubble (Post 717533)
I think the real problem is that some of these people take the game too serious and complain about it their entire life but not willing to do anything to change it themselves.

Correct!

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Posted by Thallen (Post 717507)
Your only experience with me relating to the actual game was when you joined a racist "MeXiCaN p0wEr" guild where you and friends dressed in sombreros and taco shields and attempted to PK one of my tower guilds, while you were GP, which failed miserably so you then resorted to banning some of my members because they played along with your racist stereotype guild and told you that you were bad at PKing and should try mowing their lawn instead

I know for sure I'd do better than you and the majority of the current GPs, but I'm not interested



I suggested that it to send them an automated server PM informing them that they're over the cap and at risk of being banned


In other words, continue to blame someone else.

Aguzo 06-25-2016 04:56 PM

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Posted by iBubble (Post 717533)
I think the real problem is that some of these people take the game too serious and complain about it their entire life but not willing to do anything to change it themselves.

If the positions paid, then I'm sure there would be a lot better management. You are still correct though, but that's what stopping a lot of people from actually helping.
There aren't a lot of players who would make high quality staff, and would gladly do it for free.
Surprised that people like dusty, rufus, and fp4 even bother catering to the many requests of players, and do it for free (maybe).

There have been a few really good gps, but most of those don't stay for very long.

Thallen 06-25-2016 04:59 PM

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Posted by Reemas (Post 717610)
In other words, continue to blame someone else.

If you apply to do something, get hired to do it, and do it incorrectly then yes, you should absolutely be blamed. I have responsibilities as a player that prevent me from applying even if I wanted to. I do what I chose to do properly, so I'd expect a GP to do what they've chosen to do properly.

I wouldn't be hired anyway because I'm far too outspoken and have a ban (and immediate unban) in my account history. I've applied in the past.

Reemas 06-25-2016 05:26 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 717619)
If you apply to do something, get hired to do it, and do it incorrectly then yes, you should absolutely be blamed. I have responsibilities as a player that prevent me from applying even if I wanted to. I do what I chose to do properly, so I'd expect a GP to do what they've chosen to do properly.

I wouldn't be hired anyway because I'm far too outspoken and have a ban (and immediate unban) in my account history. I've applied in the past.

That's unfortunate. You seem like a good lad.

CM 06-25-2016 05:27 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 717507)
Your only experience with me relating to the actual game was when you joined a racist "MeXiCaN p0wEr" guild where you and friends dressed in sombreros and taco shields and attempted to PK one of my tower guilds, while you were GP, which failed miserably so you then resorted to banning some of my members because they played along with your racist stereotype guild and told you that you were bad at PKing and should try mowing their lawn instead

I know for sure I'd do better than you and the majority of the current GPs, but I'm not interested

Okay, first off I wasn't saying it as in "Thallen would be a bad GP", I was sincerely wondering if he was being sarcastic because he continued to mention it numerous times in a manner that could be taken as sarcasm.

Secondly, if that scenario you mentioned were actually true, I would've been fired right then and there, lol... And looking back I see how that could be seen as racist, at the time I wasn't even doing it to be racist, I was bored and had nothing better to do. I apologize if that's how it was taken, but it was not my intention to "be racist" (as for the other members, idk I met them that day).

I never banned anyone because they "told me I was bad at PKing" (if you look at my stats you'll see I literally care nothing of them). If I did do that, like I said, I would have been fired.

Good to see you bringing up this entire situation again (which happened I think like over a year ago) because you misunderstood a post I made.

I actually have mentioned numerous times to other people that I think you would actually be a good GP because you take **** from nobody, but then again who am I to say that? I was just a racist GP that banned people when they said I was bad at PKing, apparently.

Sarah_ 06-25-2016 05:42 PM

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Posted by Saber Alumba (Post 717586)
Yes in part of the group that thinks your delay plus and Egyptian lag is too unfair in the community ? It's not a unpopular though amongs players and you were clearly lagging when I said it , providing a video of one spar does not denote how much and often you lag. And yes at that point I was complaining at your lag and not your delay as I have never complained about your delay as it's not something in your control , however playing whilst lagging is something that in my opinion is under your control and you should be accountable for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSYp...ature=youtu.be

Crono 06-25-2016 06:09 PM

I'd gladly take part in the drama but I'm not a GP. :(


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