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Xilent 06-26-2015 04:49 AM

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Posted by Ramone (Post 584769)
I've played for quite a while and I still haven't hit 50k so

You must not PK then

Zetectic 06-26-2015 04:52 AM

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Posted by Xilent (Post 584290)
I agree with the spar. But a hat every 50k? That means some people would just get a hat every 3-4 weeks. Thats to much.

Have never seen anybody getting 50k pk in less than one months.

Xilent 06-26-2015 04:55 AM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 584844)
Have never seen anybody getting 50k pk in less than one months.

(III) got 28k in one week and then was getting 15k-25k every other week.

Droid 06-26-2015 07:56 AM

Bump.

Sariss 06-26-2015 08:19 AM

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Posted by Droid (Post 584892)
Bump.

You are dumb.

Xilent 06-26-2015 10:33 AM

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Posted by Vic (Post 584079)
The hat would have to be the best hat ever made to have people commit to 300k pks.

Happy 140k btw Vic

Darkk 06-26-2015 11:39 AM

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Posted by super kurosaki (Post 584786)
What's the point of giving rewards for 100k and 200k pks though? So many people have 100k pks and a lot of people are getting 200k as well.

200k pk reward to people who have 100% tower pks? Sorry boosters!

Droid 06-26-2015 02:53 PM

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Posted by Darkk (Post 584952)
200k pk reward to people who have 100% tower pks? Sorry boosters!

IKR, camping at a tower takes no skill, Darkk here got his PKs the proper way, and 50k is reasonable as 100k is still quite a massive goal for people who can't play 24/7, I am busy with school, and for the younger Graal audience, isn't it best to have an early checkpoint at 50k for motivation?

50k, 100k, 200k, 350k, 500k, 750k, 1million?
Same with Bks.

Darkk 06-26-2015 03:11 PM

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Posted by Droid (Post 584988)
IKR, camping at a tower takes no skill, Darkk here got his PKs the proper way, and 50k is reasonable as 100k is still quite a massive goal for people who can't play 24/7, I am busy with school, and for the younger Graal audience, isn't it best to have an early checkpoint at 50k for motivation?

I was referring to pack/riot pkers.

Craftz 06-26-2015 04:55 PM

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Posted by Darkk (Post 584992)
I was referring to pack/riot pkers.

And how is that boosting?

Kosiris 06-26-2015 05:23 PM

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Posted by Craftz (Post 585043)
And how is that boosting?

It's basically the same people killing each other over and over again. I don't think it's boosting, but it is the closest thing to it.

Craftz 06-26-2015 06:34 PM

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Posted by Kosiris (Post 585052)
It's basically the same people killing each other over and over again. I don't think it's boosting, but it is the closest thing to it.

Tower pking is basically the same people killing each other over and over?

super kurosaki 06-26-2015 06:37 PM

90% of all the "pkers" now arrow spam or sword spam in a riot. It's cheap pks and I don't think they deserve to be awarded for that. People like Zorma Knight, Skye, etc. don't deserve those pks at all. They stand in front of a crowd and just arrow spam, getting 4-5 kills per arrow. Also, if they did add pk hats, all the desperate noobs will just boost to hit those milestones for the hats.

However, If they do add pk hats it should be 300k, 400k, 500k, etc.
Reward those people that do more than just the minimum of 100-200k

Dusty 06-26-2015 06:39 PM

PKing seems so mindless to me. You just sit and sword/arrow spam until you die, and when you die you just tap the screen/hit a button and respawn right there with little loss and keep going until you get bored.

But if anyone remotely alters this system everyone will lose their mind.

Craftz 06-26-2015 06:51 PM

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Posted by super kurosaki (Post 585067)
90% of all the "pkers" now arrow spam or sword spam in a riot. It's cheap pks and I don't think they deserve to be awarded for that. People like Zorma Knight, Skye, etc. don't deserve those pks at all. They stand in front of a crowd and just arrow spam, getting 4-5 kills per arrow. Also, if they did add pk hats, all the desperate noobs will just boost to hit those milestones for the hats.

However, If they do add pk hats it should be 300k, 400k, 500k, etc.
Reward those people that do more than just the minimum of 100-200k

I don't get why you care? It seems to me like you are complaining that somebody is doing something different than you are and it is turning out to be more effective.

MBK 06-26-2015 06:57 PM

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Posted by Craftz (Post 585070)
I don't get why you care? It seems to me like you are complaining that somebody is doing something different than you are and it is turning out to be more effective.

You better call spar boosting legit then.

Craftz 06-26-2015 07:05 PM

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Posted by MBK (Post 585075)
You better call spar boosting legit then.

This isn't even relevant to the topic? Killing people in mobs is not boosting at all.

Here's a thread that pretty much discusses this: http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19711

Zetectic 06-26-2015 07:41 PM

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Posted by Xilent (Post 584846)
(III) got 28k in one week and then was getting 15k-25k every other week.

she did and she was the only few. most people barely even get 5k+ kills per week, probably top 3 and they probably deserved it.

MikvaGraal 06-26-2015 07:42 PM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 585089)
she did and she was the only few. most people barely even get 5k+ kills per week, probably top 3 and they probably deserved it.

she got over 30k one week

super kurosaki 06-26-2015 08:06 PM

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Posted by Craftz (Post 585070)
I don't get why you care? It seems to me like you are complaining that somebody is doing something different than you are and it is turning out to be more effective.

It's not really complaining, I was just stating facts. Feel free to think what you want though.

Craftz 06-26-2015 08:19 PM

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Posted by super kurosaki (Post 585100)
It's not really complaining, I was just stating facts. Feel free to think what you want though.

It is not a 'fact' that mob pking is boosting. Because it isn't. Read the thread I linked, Thallen actually had some pretty good points in there (surprising, I know) that I think you should read.

Thallen 06-26-2015 08:32 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 585068)
PKing seems so mindless to me. You just sit and sword/arrow spam until you die, and when you die you just tap the screen/hit a button and respawn right there with little loss and keep going until you get bored.

But if anyone remotely alters this system everyone will lose their mind.

truuue

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Posted by super kurosaki (Post 585067)
Zorma Knight

chick got banned for using infinite arrows when they made the entire overworld a PK zone, should have been reset

super kurosaki 06-26-2015 08:38 PM

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Posted by Craftz (Post 585107)
It is not a 'fact' that mob pking is boosting. Because it isn't. Read the thread I linked, Thallen actually had some pretty good points in there (surprising, I know) that I think you should read.

Did I say mob pking was boosting? No, I didn't. I said it was cheap pk.

Thallen 06-26-2015 08:52 PM

PK rewards in 300k increments is extremely step... I suggested the rewards not specifically to reward people who already PK and spar, but to make it more active and to encourage people to do it more
Someone who has never PKed before would look at the first reward tier at 300k and assume they'll never get it and just not be interested at all

If they make it in increments of 10k and 100k, up to like 100k and 1m, I don't see how that doesn't provide enough longevity and incentive for the reward system, considering it's been 6 years now and no one has achieved either

Kosiris 06-26-2015 08:55 PM

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Posted by Craftz (Post 585065)
Tower pking is basically the same people killing each other over and over?

Is EVERYONE good at it, though?

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Posted by Dusty (Post 585068)
PKing seems so mindless to me. You just sit and sword/arrow spam until you die, and when you die you just tap the screen/hit a button and respawn right there with little loss and keep going until you get bored.

But if anyone remotely alters this system everyone will lose their mind.

I PK because I find it fun.

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Posted by Craftz (Post 585070)
I don't get why you care? It seems to me like you are complaining that somebody is doing something different than you are and it is turning out to be more effective.

LOL aren't you the dude that's AnT1 HaT ChaZe? Basically complaining that other people are doing something different than you are and it is turning out to be more effective.

Only reason I don't mob PK is because I find it boring.

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Posted by Craftz (Post 585107)
It is not a 'fact' that mob pking is boosting. Because it isn't. Read the thread I linked, Thallen actually had some pretty good points in there (surprising, I know) that I think you should read.

I've never said mob PKing is boosting.

Get tag teamed bro :P:blush:

KuyaGabeGraal 06-26-2015 08:56 PM

After reading the other thread, it makes sense. Dont forget PK means Player Killing. There are no actual rules or law on how to kill a player but arrowing a crowded area is pretty cheap. For Sparring, its meant to show the other opponent whos stronger and more skillful though things like lagging and wall sparring are something people hate, its just an unintentional (for lag) and coward (for wall sparring) way of sparring but not illegal. There are always going to be things that are legal to do but it becomes to the point where people abuse that thing and then other people will considered it illegal because its cheap. Boosting kills/spar wins secretly, off the same character, and hacking to have high, superior advantage are few illegal things.

super kurosaki 06-26-2015 09:34 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 585122)
PK rewards in 300k increments is extremely step... I suggested the rewards not specifically to reward people who already PK and spar, but to make it more active and to encourage people to do it more
Someone who has never PKed before would look at the first reward tier at 300k and assume they'll never get it and just not be interested at all

If they make it in increments of 10k and 100k, up to like 100k and 1m, I don't see how that doesn't provide enough longevity and incentive for the reward system, considering it's been 6 years now and no one has achieved either

My idea was to reward the players that go beyond the minimum of 100-200k pks because a lot of players get 100k or 200k then they just stop pking. Even with the PK hats, yeah it'll be motivation to get 100k and maybe even 200k but after they get the 2 hats, I dont think many people would try to get 300k pks and the 3rd hat. I see where you're coming from though, I think increments of 100-150k would work best.

Also, Era has a PK/Spar hat shop with hats on display for each different milestone(100k, 200k etc. 10k, 20k etc.) and whatever milestone you've reached you can just go grab the hat and it'll be added to your account. I think classic could do something like this.

MikvaGraal 06-26-2015 09:53 PM

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Posted by super kurosaki (Post 585164)
My idea was to reward the players that go beyond the minimum of 100-200k pks because a lot of players get 100k or 200k then they just stop pking. Even with the PK hats, yeah it'll be motivation to get 100k and maybe even 200k but after they get the 2 hats, I dont think many people would try to get 300k pks and the 3rd hat. I see where you're coming from though, I think increments of 100-150k would work best.

Also, Era has a PK/Spar hat shop with hats on display for each different milestone(100k, 200k etc. 10k, 20k etc.) and whatever milestone you've reached you can just go grab the hat and it'll be added to your account. I think classic could do something like this.

*** up super

Thallen 06-26-2015 09:55 PM

I don't care what the increments are or what the hats look like, I'd just like to see it bring activity and motivate people to spar and PK

At this point, I don't even know if that's a good idea since the server is in such poor condition

KuyaGabeGraal 06-26-2015 09:57 PM

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Posted by super kurosaki (Post 585164)
My idea was to reward the players that go beyond the minimum of 100-200k pks because a lot of players get 100k or 200k then they just stop pking. Even with the PK hats, yeah it'll be motivation to get 100k and maybe even 200k but after they get the 2 hats, I dont think many people would try to get 300k pks and the 3rd hat. I see where you're coming from though, I think increments of 100-150k would work best.

Also, Era has a PK/Spar hat shop with hats on display for each different milestone(100k, 200k etc. 10k, 20k etc.) and whatever milestone you've reached you can just go grab the hat and it'll be added to your account. I think classic could do something like this.


It could happen if classic staff could match the era staff (Heard their staff are much better).

Craftz 06-26-2015 10:23 PM

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Posted by super kurosaki (Post 585119)
Did I say mob pking was boosting? No, I didn't. I said it was cheap pk.

Even still, that isn't a fact. It is your opinion that it is cheap, and that's fine. I personally don't think it's cheap as you can pk any way you want. It's not limited to pking at towers.

Graal Man 06-26-2015 10:28 PM

A wearable baddy helmet for baddy killing would be cool but then more people would just complain that there's not enough baddies or too much people baddy killing

Has anyone seen that NPC in MoD town that checks your spar wins and then disses you?

Craftz 06-26-2015 10:30 PM

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Posted by Kosiris (Post 585125)
Is EVERYONE good at it, though?

As Dusty said, it's just mindless sword spamming. I don't see how you can be good at it.

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LOL aren't you the dude that's AnT1 HaT ChaZe? Basically complaining that other people are doing something different than you are and it is turning out to be more effective.
Sure I'm anti hat chasing, but this makes no sense. I don't see what people are doing differently and more effective than me though, beacuse I'm not trying to get 1k hours or hats?

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I've never said mob PKing is boosting.
Maybe if your brain could comprehend what it reads you would have understood that this post wasn't directed at you at all. I didn't even quote you?
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Get tag teamed bro :P:blush:
Lol what? How is your one idiotic post a 'tag team'?

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Posted by KuyaGabeGraal (Post 585184)
It could happen if classic staff could match the era staff (Heard their staff are much better).

LOL not sure if troll or has never played Era.

twilit 06-26-2015 11:20 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 585068)
Crowd PKing seems so mindless to me. You just sit and sword/arrow spam until you die, and when you die you just tap the screen/hit a button and respawn right there with little loss and keep going until you get bored.

edited. People still confuse the difference.

Dusty 06-27-2015 12:46 AM

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Posted by twilit (Post 585223)
edited. People still confuse the difference.

This is true, but with the playercount it seems rare to find much PKing that isn't just crowd-PKing.

Imprint 06-27-2015 01:03 AM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 585262)
This is true, but with the playercount it seems rare to find much PKing that isn't just crowd-PKing.

PKing at Castle is pretty fun. The problem with PKing on iClassic isn't just the playercount, it's all the noPK zone that pop up in random places and the noBlock zones in PK areas.

MBK 06-27-2015 12:18 PM

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Posted by Craftz (Post 585076)
This isn't even relevant to the topic? Killing people in mobs is not boosting at all.

Here's a thread that pretty much discusses this: http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19711

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somebody is doing something different than you are and it is turning out to be more effective.
When a certain perosn spar boosts,he is doing something different than you are and it is also turning out to be more effective..

if you want to start whining about all the boosting **** then you better go off these forums.
Damned peeps always trying to start a flamewar and going against the stream trying to be "orignal".

Dusty 06-27-2015 12:54 PM

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Posted by Imprint (Post 585274)
PKing at Castle is pretty fun. The problem with PKing on iClassic isn't just the playercount, it's all the noPK zone that pop up in random places and the noBlock zones in PK areas.

I agree with the nopk, but not with the noblocking. It's extremely easy to completely block off an area, especially when crowds form.

SouthernZombie* 06-27-2015 03:38 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 585644)
I agree with the nopk, but not with the noblocking. It's extremely easy to completely block off an area, especially when crowds form.

I swear those pk crowds come and start out of nowhere :(

MikvaGraal 06-27-2015 04:24 PM

i saw super boosting his pks at a mob once

Craftz 06-27-2015 08:05 PM

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Posted by MBK (Post 585619)
When a certain perosn spar boosts,he is doing something different than you are and it is also turning out to be more effective..

You still get the point, there is also pk boosting, but that isn't at all what is going on in mob pking.

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if you want to start whining about all the boosting **** then you better go off these forums.
Damned peeps always trying to start a flamewar and going against the stream trying to be "orignal".
Don't see at all where I was whining or complaining about boosting in any way?
I don't see how I'm trying to start a flame war at all, but this post seems like it's trying to.

Imprint 06-27-2015 08:28 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 585644)
I agree with the nopk, but not with the noblocking. It's extremely easy to completely block off an area, especially when crowds form.

Nah I get the need for those and I don't see a way around it. It's better than just making it a noPK zone, but it's still pretty annoying.

twilit 06-27-2015 11:11 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 585262)
This is true, but with the playercount it seems rare to find much PKing that isn't just crowd-PKing.

Not really. PK mobs arent a 24/7 occurrence. I dont know how often they happen these days. And it is never all across the map either; only below graal city or the bridge.

Xilent 06-28-2015 07:20 AM

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Posted by twilit (Post 585880)
Not really. PK mobs arent a 24/7 occurrence. I dont know how often they happen these days. And it is never all across the map either; only below graal city or the bridge.

Everytime there is chests in MoD theres always that same one south-west of CTF.

Droid 06-28-2015 01:39 PM

Just add the Hats already.
Please add a Baddy hat which is a Baddy on your head ! :D

Kaios 06-28-2015 08:00 PM

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Posted by Droid (Post 586061)
Just add the Hats already.
Please add a Baddy hat which is a Baddy on your head ! :D

YES A BADDY HAT!

Add a noob hat too omggghg

Common Sense 06-28-2015 08:29 PM

There already is a baddy hat that sits on your head.
Noob siting on your head was one of zZFatalZz's tower hats.

Xilent 06-29-2015 05:05 AM

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Posted by Common Sense (Post 586180)
There already is a baddy hat that sits on your head.
Noob siting on your head was one of zZFatalZz's tower hats.

Using your "Common Sense" right there

Droid 06-30-2015 04:10 PM

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Posted by Common Sense (Post 586180)
There already is a baddy hat that sits on your head.
Noob siting on your head was one of zZFatalZz's tower hats.

Provide a picture of baddy hat?

Xilent 07-01-2015 06:23 AM

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Posted by Droid (Post 586734)
Provide a picture of baddy hat?

I've seen it before I think, I'm pretty sure its one of those green ones below of Castle. i don't have any pictures of it though.


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