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bbobb 09-07-2015 09:11 PM

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Posted by Darkk (Post 612304)
Yui had 3.0 vs fro at 0.5 and nf at 1.0.
She got nervous and rushed.

So it's okay for her to be stupid and rush because she was nervous? I think everyone was nervous...lol

Kuz 09-07-2015 09:36 PM

I think I speak for everyone when I say that we are all surprised for the Mixed GST Results. I'm pretty sure everyone expected BDB to win. But it's good seeing a fresh group of underdogs win mixed GST. Nobody saw it coming.

Ph8 09-07-2015 09:51 PM

Can relate to both sides of the argument here, but personally believe that if both players die, it should be a tie, and that regular spar/regular guild spar should be modified to reflect that.

IRL, if two people are having a duel to the death using bow and arrows, and they both manage to hit each other, but one gets hit a half of a second ahead of the other one, but they both die, I think you'd pretty obviously call that a draw, no? Not that one dude won because he survived a half second longer. It's the same idea.

Also, it otherwise gives an advantage to people who lag, as the person with the better connection is more likely (not always, but more likely) to die first.

On a side note, congrats to deity on the mixed win. Great job with holding lines, being patient, and controlling space. Felt that made the difference in our match against them, we (Blackout) were more just a bunch of individuals all doing our own thing and they had strategy and solid teamwork.

Thallen 09-07-2015 09:59 PM

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Posted by Ph8 (Post 612317)
Can relate to both sides of the argument here, but personally believe that if both players die, it should be a tie, and that regular spar/regular guild spar should be modified to reflect that.

Agreed, I think there needs to be a full second pause before determining the winner of a spar so that we have some sort of compensation for delay
GGs

Shiden 09-07-2015 11:41 PM

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Posted by Aserus (Post 612288)
Is this what you mean?


This is me vs Shiden from a while ago, I included the full match and a frame by frame version at the end of the video. As the slowed down part shows, I swung first, died first and it was declared a tie. (I'm from Toronto, Canada and average about 110ms)

The frame by frame version shows that:
  • He swings his sword
  • I go in and attack him while his sword is inactive (since the sword only does damage on the first frame)
  • He reactivates his sword's hitbox (swings again)
  • I die and my death animation starts
  • Right when I get warped out, his health goes down to zero and his death animation starts while he's still in the arena (you can see the 0 over his head)
  • He gets warped out and the tie message pops up



This is what I don't get, if the server saw me die and warped me out first then why did it still tie?

lel tht aint me

Aserus 09-07-2015 11:50 PM

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Posted by Shiden (Post 612343)
lel tht aint me

I don't know who you are but the player's name said "shiden" so I referred to them as shiden, they were an idev player and had a 15k-3.5k spar record. It could have been anyone else but it wouldn't matter, it doesn't change the point

Zetectic 09-07-2015 11:52 PM

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Posted by Aserus (Post 612344)
I don't know who you are but the player's name said "shiden" so I referred to them as shiden, they were an idev player and had a 15k-3.5k spar record. It could have been anyone else but it wouldn't matter, it doesn't change the point

that is dontae

Kosma 09-07-2015 11:53 PM

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Posted by Ph8 (Post 612317)
Can relate to both sides of the argument here, but personally believe that if both players die, it should be a tie, and that regular spar/regular guild spar should be modified to reflect that.

IRL, if two people are having a duel to the death using bow and arrows, and they both manage to hit each other, but one gets hit a half of a second ahead of the other one, but they both die, I think you'd pretty obviously call that a draw, no? Not that one dude won because he survived a half second longer. It's the same idea.

Also, it otherwise gives an advantage to people who lag, as the person with the better connection is more likely (not always, but more likely) to die first.

On a side note, congrats to deity on the mixed win. Great job with holding lines, being patient, and controlling space. Felt that made the difference in our match against them, we (Blackout) were more just a bunch of individuals all doing our own thing and they had strategy and solid teamwork.

Agree on all of this, and also wanna comment on that last paragraph especially. I was quite active 2-3 weeks prior to the GST, I watched/participated in alot of GSing both at Belle and in the Arena and Deity definitely practiced more than most in my opinion. More than Blackout, WAR or SLX from what I saw (but not BDB!). Thallen and Eko started practicing with them a bit later on but as a whole they put in alot of time and I think more teams need to do that if they want to end up past the semi's!

juan23 09-08-2015 12:31 AM

was hoping dark's team would make it further than they did, was sad to see them lose

fp4 09-08-2015 12:38 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 612320)
Agreed, I think there needs to be a full second pause before determining the winner of a spar so that we have some sort of compensation for delay
GGs

This is in place now.

super kurosaki 09-08-2015 12:59 AM

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Posted by fp4 (Post 612358)
This is in place now.

I thought I've been lagging ._.

Thallen 09-08-2015 01:04 AM

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Posted by fp4 (Post 612358)
This is in place now.

Nice man, thanks

Red 09-08-2015 01:05 AM

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Posted by super kurosaki (Post 612360)
I thought I've been lagging ._.

same .-.

super kurosaki 09-08-2015 01:25 AM

Me & a girl died at the same time and it said she won the spar even though we both warped out??

rickclops 09-08-2015 04:18 AM

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Posted by Kuz (Post 612312)
I think I speak for everyone when I say that we are all surprised for the Mixed GST Results. I'm pretty sure everyone expected BDB to win. But it's good seeing a fresh group of underdogs win mixed GST. Nobody saw it coming.

Are you being silly? Deity won before a year ago. Or was BDB also in idevice? VIS has won before also I believe.


FP4: You fixed the laggers winning ties after all this time? o.O Excellent.

Aguzo 09-08-2015 06:13 AM

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Posted by rickclops (Post 612408)
FP4: You fixed the laggers winning ties after all this time? o.O Excellent.

Better late than never, probably 1/4 of my wins = tie
and probably 1/3+ of my losses = loss by 0.5 due to delay.

If it's fixed, I'll be so glad :D... for everyone else...
I'll probably spar more, once I get my ios controller :)

Thallen 09-08-2015 07:25 AM

BDB should have used the Santy girl IMO, she's good and annoying to spar against

David 09-08-2015 07:36 AM

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Posted by Kuz (Post 612312)
I think I speak for everyone when I say that we are all surprised for the Mixed GST Results.

Quote:

Posted by Kuz (Post 612312)
But it's good seeing a fresh group of underdogs win mixed GST. Nobody saw it coming.

That's nuts, dude.

Thallen 09-08-2015 09:15 AM

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Posted by super kurosaki (Post 612368)
Me & a girl died at the same time and it said she won the spar even though we both warped out??

Ya, also just experienced this. Told me I lost the spar, but we were both put out of the queue. I'm not sure if I actually received a loss. Asked the person I sparred if it told them they won or lost, they said they don't remember. Feels bad tying to someone with the memory of a goldfish.

You might also wanna make sure it's consistent with the points system, as in the person who dies last during a tie doesn't receive points. Thanks again for doing this.

GOAT 09-08-2015 02:07 PM

Keep clicking boys, 8k and we make this thread the GOAT of all spar threads. I think the Classic 10 sparer thread has finally met its match.


How about Pkun straight up running like a coward the whole GST. SA SA SA


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Posted by Darkk (Post 612304)
Yui had 3.0 vs fro at 0.5 and nf at 1.0.
She got nervous and rushed.

I'm actually shocked that she didn't even get one hit.


Yui if you're reading this I want to tell you it's karma for calling me and z EZ :P:love:

Saber Alumba 09-08-2015 06:25 PM

Well the results went somewhat as I expected.... Lol

Kuz 09-08-2015 06:54 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 612431)
BDB should have used the Santy girl IMO, she's good and annoying to spar against

Yeah we planned for her to spar at GST she done a 1v3 against Deity at belle and constantly clutched out numbered against them (Not their core team just like 3 of their members)... but anyway due to the date change unfortunately for us her flight was at the same time at GST so she couldn't. We managed to get T3CK and we probably should have used him against WAR but oh well...


On a side note man shoutout to Felix that dude was definitely MVP for WAR he hasn't got recognition he deserves.






#BDB2015

rickclops 09-08-2015 07:18 PM

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Posted by Kuz (Post 612535)
On a side note man shoutout to Felix that dude was definitely MVP for WAR he hasn't got recognition he deserves.
#BDB2015

I didn't know he was that good until GST.

RegretFromGraal 09-09-2015 03:24 AM

I can't bolieve I just read all 25 pages :0

Mizochi 09-09-2015 05:02 AM

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Posted by RegretFromGraal (Post 612684)
I can't bolieve I just read all 25 pages :0

Congrats!

GOAT 09-09-2015 08:58 AM

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Posted by RegretFromGraal (Post 612684)
I can't bolieve I just read all 25 pages :0

Now that's dedication for a newbie poster



woot woot 375

Aaron 09-10-2015 01:10 AM

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Posted by RegretFromGraal (Post 612684)
I can't bolieve I just read all 25 pages :0

SEVENTEEN THIRTY EIGHT, AY

HmongtheSecond 09-10-2015 02:38 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLxMIzeQ9wI
My boy Charle came through.

Zetectic 09-10-2015 02:46 AM

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Posted by HmongtheSecond (Post 612895)

DANG BOI 2 hrs!!
i can see he put a lot of effort in his video description. im too lazy to do that.

HmongtheSecond 09-10-2015 02:49 AM

Yeah good thing he put the teams in the description.

kenthefruit 09-10-2015 02:51 AM

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Posted by Aaron (Post 612884)
SEVENTEEN THIRTY EIGHT, AY

stop

SouthernZombie* 09-10-2015 03:41 AM

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Posted by Aaron (Post 612884)
SEVENTEEN THIRTY EIGHT, AY

Pls

Kosma 09-10-2015 06:15 AM

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Posted by HmongtheSecond (Post 612895)

Mad props!

MikvaGraal 09-10-2015 06:21 AM

Still amazed at that underdog team who just came out of no where to beat Blackout & GTEAM probs to skull and Thallen for carrying too finales and winning it.

Darkk 09-10-2015 07:32 AM

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Posted by MikvaGraal (Post 612933)
Still amazed at that underdog team who just came out of no where to beat Blackout & GTEAM probs to skull and Thallen for carrying too finales and winning it.

Underdog definition:a competitor thought to have little chance of winning a fight or contest.
A team with thallen, dae and skull has the highest possibility of winning any gst.

Zetectic 09-10-2015 04:09 PM

next gst:
alumni - dante, mk, thallen, eko, david
vs
deity - dae, skull, john, ruke, fulgore
??

GOAT 09-10-2015 04:31 PM

This charlie guy is going to be my new go to guy for GST videos.

Step your game up Zetectic

super kurosaki 09-10-2015 04:32 PM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 613020)
next gst:
alumni - dante, mk, thallen, eko, david
vs
deity - dae, skull, john, ruke, fulgore
??

Deitys not doing next gst I don't think

Fulgore 09-10-2015 04:38 PM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 613025)
This charlie guy is going to be my new go to guy for GST videos.

Step your game up Zetectic

Zet has to one up it by having 6 twitch channels livestreaming each of the matches all at once.

Areo 09-10-2015 06:23 PM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 613027)
Zet has to one up it by having 6 twitch channels livestreaming each of the matches all at once.

If someone could actually pull that off, that would be pretty darn cool.

rickclops 09-10-2015 08:08 PM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 613020)
next gst:
alumni - dante, mk, thallen, eko, david
vs
deity - dae, skull, john, ruke, fulgore
??

next gst:
alumni - thallen dae eko ruke fulgore
vs
deity - thallen dae eko ruke fulgore

Zetectic 09-10-2015 08:13 PM

yea ur right goat. I gotta figure something out to step up my game.
good suggestion fulgore, but i doubt it will ever happen.
i can record up to 4 gs arena. if they aren't gonna fix/improve the spectator's viewing room, its not worth recording it.

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Posted by rickclops (Post 613066)
next gst:
alumni - thallen dae eko ruke fulgore
vs
deity - thallen dae eko ruke fulgore

ok how about:
alumneity - thallen, dae, eko, dante, mk, david, inev
vs
warlackout - clops, jack, brett, felix, zid, ares, pt
??

Relic 09-10-2015 09:13 PM

Sorry guys, I didn't get around to editing the video I have of GST, some things came up and school started yesterday. Hoping to get to it at some point although it looks like a bunch of people have already posted videos. If there's any specific matches you guys want (unfortunately I only have mixed and even then missed some of those,) tell me and I may just grab those when I get around to it.

Thallen 09-10-2015 09:57 PM

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Posted by rickclops (Post 613066)
next gst:
alumni - thallen dae eko ruke fulgore
vs
deity - thallen dae eko ruke fulgore

You guys split from Blackout back into WAR because they wouldn't lump you all together into one team so I don't understand why you're dragging this out
We skipped a GST because several of our members weren't around to participate so I recruited people, sue me for doing what's best for our guild

Zetectic 09-10-2015 10:17 PM

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Posted by Relic (Post 613079)
Sorry guys, I didn't get around to editing the video I have of GST, some things came up and school started yesterday. Hoping to get to it at some point although it looks like a bunch of people have already posted videos. If there's any specific matches you guys want (unfortunately I only have mixed and even then missed some of those,) tell me and I may just grab those when I get around to it.

oh yeah rlc u ****ing liar. post it now the RAW footage.

David 09-10-2015 10:40 PM

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Posted by rickclops (Post 613066)
next gst:
alumni - thallen dae eko ruke fulgore
vs
deity - thallen dae eko ruke fulgore

WAR still lost in your fantasy scenario btw

Relic 09-10-2015 10:51 PM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 613093)
oh yeah rlc u ****ing liar. post it now the RAW footage.

Nah I'd rather edit it into something watchable.

Zetectic 09-11-2015 12:30 AM

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Posted by Relic (Post 613102)
Nah I'd rather edit it into something watchable.

sure, post it on november 28th.

Relic 09-11-2015 09:44 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeQ_...ature=youtu.be

Silver Lion vs SLX - full
BDB vs WAR - missed a small part of first round
GTEAM vs SLX - full
Blackout vs Deity - full
WAR vs GTEAM - last match
GTEAM vs Deity - full

Enjoy. Hopefully I have SOMETHING there that nobody else managed to record.

Ph8 09-12-2015 12:37 AM

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Posted by Relic (Post 613375)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeQ_...ature=youtu.be

Silver Lion vs SLX - full
BDB vs WAR - missed a small part of first round
GTEAM vs SLX - full
Blackout vs Deity - full
WAR vs GTEAM - last match
GTEAM vs Deity - full

Enjoy. Hopefully I have SOMETHING there that nobody else managed to record.

Damn I tried to kill Aguzo about 6 times in the third match against deity, lol Next GST someone remind me to show up a few days beforehand and actually practice and get familiar with a team instead of showing up day of.


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