Since the gun was nerfed, why don't just nerf the price also?
Before nerf the gun, nerf Ebola first.

Imagine you buy a computer equipped with an i7 processor and that 4 months later Intel comes to your house and replaces it with an i3...

This is what iEra is doing.

Nah bro, it's not too late. This is Graal. They're allowed to completely change around everything including stats and prices. Want to make BAR on par with a tier-1 gun? They can do it. Era has done it and (only Seth was able to get info on this and play the market to make 10mil) guns were changed, prices were changed, stuff like the Daewoo went from a 10k gun to a 70k gun. While something like the Desert Raven went from a 600k gun with amazing stats to the same gun, but it became 300k at most due to lowered pawn prices.

As for a gun that got nerfed? MP5 Navy was considered the highest-tier gun and it was the greatest gun in Era at the time. Staff nerfed it down to a tier-3 gun and it went from around 1mil to... 500k? Don't quite remember.

Hey man. Just to clarify, I am aware of the ability/changes that have occurred in the past. What I am trying to say is the BAR was the first gun of that pricing category. Before hand a 4.5k M4 was top dog followed by your 2.5k AK47 from memory (could be wrong, but I definitely remember the BAR been out of this world in terms of the old pricing) . The BAR was the catalyst for the changing iEra economy. Yeah sure, guns are going to change slightly, but only to adjust to the current economy that's been established. I doubt many originals are here to share this memory with me but, remember the days of free M4s? God knows how much they are now...The economy was different then and since then its been continually rising.

Let's be realistic, obtaining the guns in Graal now through the in-game jobs is NOT possible for the casual-IplaywhenIhavesparetime-player. Obviously Gralat Packs are the solution (which is the reason for the high prices remember?). You are the consumer of the Graal product in its virtual market. Not saying that's a good or bad thing; it is what it is unixmad needs to make a living. (I personally disagree with unixmads management on a moral basis but I won't go there, you'll find it in a recent post with Newton.)

In summary, you're right Cookie, they can and will change prices but only to suit the contemporary iEra economy. Imagine the uproar if guns revolved around the old economy at say 20k gralats? People that wasted $50 on a few pixels would lose their ****! Anyway, If you were playing a couple of years ago, which is what I'm assuming, you'll understand :) I gotta get back to English speech and stop my Graal essay.

maturity is overrated on graal :P :P:)

forums for a game defeats the purpose of fun hehe

It's pretty rare nowadays though...

I guess that's one way to look at it, on the other hand, a profit driven management who relies on talented consumers to create the content for them while not being even slightly thankful or appreciative to them, is another way to kill the fun. #justsaying

Thus my friends you have learned that iEra is p2w the staff suck, and they are greedy fkers who want your wallet empty. that is all that needs to be said whoever said something about a server wipe great fking job! And ozzy my man you said you wont come back until snk is gone, thats great cause he is why iEra lost a *** ton of oldbies. Sorry Snk but you are a complete idiot.

Foolish to defend this game. Should have seen the guys on Era-Go. Defending the game saying its not pay2win. They was pretty much like can u buy any gun with RL money? Buy a speed boost with RL money? How about EC items..buy dem with rl money? No? Then its not p2w. Either that forum don't know what they are talking about or I'm just smoking something crazy. They actually believe this game jobs are fines and that it should stay like this nerfed and all.

People on Era-Go are ignorant idiots and they come here and they act all differents its so funny lmao. Cause they know they can actually get roasted here without *** moderators licking their asses.

To be fair, yes the server more or less started out as P2w (talking about bar release not before that) but it's you players who are making it stay this way. On numerous times I have tried nerfing guns because believe it or not I want it to be fair aswell, and after doing it, thanks to the huge backlash of angry/upset players who are unable to understand the way balancing works, the stats had to be changed back. The nerfs that have been carried through are only minor parts of what was originally intended and because of that even though people still complain about the BAR/ Minigun nerf I still am not happy with it, and if I chose to ignore player opinions I would have nerfed it even more significantly.

Until the server 'grows up' and can see nerfs/buffs contributing to balance instead of going 'my bar has 10 less clip, I got scammed, refund me this gun is useless now' (ie. the original point of this thread) things aren't going to get better.

And yes I know people spent money irl on their guns but when a nerf is made yes the gun isn't as good as it was before, but it is still better than the guns below its price and worth what it is made so we aren't ripping you off. Something 80% of Era's players don't understand which is largely due to the server being mostly made up of under 13 year olds

(Also as Unixmad is the only person profiting off guns/packs- Snk declined Stefans offer of getting payment- and so any one saying we sell guns/ nerf guns just to make a profit are completely wrong. Honestly we don't give a **** how much money is made from them, the real reason for expensive guns is because the gun is stronger than others, and it was originally thought that only a few would buy it, not the entire server- like how auction guns work- so the guns more powerful stats wouldn't be as much of a problem as you would rarely encounter them)

There's your problem. You need to not listen to these complaints when you know that a nerf is fully needed and you know exactly how to fix it. Like I said earlier; take Era for example. A massive gun nerf happened and eveyone complained. You know what they did? They said tough ****. Sell or pawn your weapon if you don't like it. Especially the MP5 Navy which went from top gun worth 1 million to on-par with BAR. Many people raged, but they offered a 500k return. That's it.

Tl;dr

Learn to make a decision and stick with it.

Seriously iEra staff need to grow a pair of balls and not taking responsibility cause the **** didnt hit the fan till after they were hired. **** that bull**** there are **** tons of people who would be willing to fix this. Get your rears in gear and do what needs to be done, stop hiding under a rock.

Yea well you can't refund in era because stefan and uni didn't want it. And you can't stick with it when you have 200 people crying in start and spamming every staff because even if I choose not to change it back someone else will. You probably don't know about the flame thrower nerf since you dont play, but it's basically a free gun that is extremely op, and after I nerfed it they all took to the forums crying and the next day it had been changed back.
Era and iEra balancing work differently, since there is no irl money used in era, if they wanted to they could rebalance every gun and change them completely. Something like that isn't possible in iEra

Thats what I hate..Nerf a gun and people be crying in start..Stupid how others get to change it back.. To me it should be only guns admin can change under manager approval..but then again..idk if snk would allow some that are needed.

Bit hard to not be responsible for changes when you are pretty much the only one doing them. Minor nerfs still went ahead but the major ones didn't because of the people angry about it.
If you like a nerf and want it to stay, when people are arguing saying it's bad, defend the change. It's hard to convince people the nerf is needed when the player support of it is 10-1 since only the angry people are the ones posting qnd so it looks one sided.