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Admiral 06-25-2016 06:27 PM

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Posted by Sarah_ (Post 717630)

Check your e-mails!!! How are you not triggered by 7.8k unread emails

On a side note, hope this all clears up for you, best of luck getting 100k wins before September

Saber Alumba 06-25-2016 06:34 PM

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Posted by Sarah_ (Post 717630)

Thanks for spending you time on sending me a pointless reply.

Sarah_ 06-25-2016 06:38 PM

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Posted by Saber Alumba (Post 717647)
Thanks for spending you time on sending me a pointless reply.

How's that a pointless reply?? You are telling me not to spar when I lag a lot (and I don't spar when I excessively lag) and even when I don't lag you tell me that I lag to get me out of the room or to get me banned? You're crazy.

It's funny how I didn't even get warped out of that GST round when I very excessively lagged and I get warned/banned when I don't. Just because I'm known for delay it doesn't mean that I'm excessively lagging.

Saber Alumba 06-25-2016 08:00 PM

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Posted by Sarah_ (Post 717649)
How's that a pointless reply?? You are telling me not to spar when I lag a lot (and I don't spar when I excessively lag) and even when I don't lag you tell me that I lag to get me out of the room or to get me banned? You're crazy.

It's funny how I didn't even get warped out of that GST round when I very excessively lagged and I get warned/banned when I don't. Just because I'm known for delay it doesn't mean that I'm excessively lagging.

No your scrazy , I've never told you to stop sparring up until the point where you started lagging like crazy . As much as I've always disliked your delay I've never complained about it and have even defended you about it in the past as I'm aware it's not under your control.
But as soon as someone tells you that your lagging a lot to an advantage you decide to throw long ass tantrums saying that everyone sucks ... Etc
If everyone is saying your lagging in the room That clearly says something.
But I've learn from previous experiences that's your too stubborn and invested in your ego so I'll spare the argument here to not annoy everyone on the thread .

Bryan* 06-25-2016 08:18 PM

Weird Colin has not deleted or closed this thread since its discussing bans

Striken 06-25-2016 10:25 PM

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Posted by Saber Alumba (Post 717564)
Probably because she's on a 2 month HOLIDAYto Egypt where she has added quite a noticeable amount of lag onto her usually delay.

Or maybe because she used vpn a couple of times when she first went to Egypt to spar and gain points , pretty sure she openly admitted it and sparring on vpn is clearly breaking the rules although she had a semi valid reason to do it

You're stupid as ever. I've noticed many sparrers go on vacation and spar, and this was before the flag update yet nothing happens when they lag. Continue to be ignorant, Sarah just wants to spar and that's it, she's always had lag so I don't see why she had to be banned now rather than ages ago. The vpn part made me chuckle, do something about Paz, hell even that Johnny kid is delaying while on a us flag.

Red 06-25-2016 11:18 PM

Whenever Sarah says she never lags I get the feeling shes a highly delusional person.

Also if thats you on an alt recording your main sparring you can see yourself skipping, You do lag you just fail to admit it. Banning you was unfair though, That Johnny walker dude got 5-6 people to mass report me for lagging and I was banned for game disruption. This sort of **** needs to stop there is no way you can ban someone based off of mass reporting from the same people.

Mount 06-26-2016 12:19 AM

I admit I myself have not enjoyed when Sarah spars, it takes my casual-joy of sparring and turns it into a chore.. I used to gear it towards her but it seems pointless now, she's JUST sparring.

I get why people may get annoyed or jealous of her accomplishments (no matter what road she took to achieve them) but it doesn't mean players should gang up to get her banned.. And who are these GPS who yield to aimless ****-reporting and ban her? Are they that inexperienced? Shouldn't there be met standards and guidelines?

And the community.. don't get me started on the community.. Too much ***-talking turned this casual activity into something personal. People take it way too close to heart and this progressive hive-mentality has since then made sparring different and more inflammatory...


I've done a ****load lately that I should've been banned for, but she's the one that's being banned?????
Instead of ***ing arguing lets actually do something productive to where we can make a difference so something as stupid as this wont happen again?



The actual report system is *cked up. There shouldn't be any way a player could potentially sway the judge.. it ultimately forces them to lean toward the side that is impaired by the reporter..

Instead, players shouldn't be able to give reason and type out why they think someone has violated the rules. There should be only options that the player selects which helps the GP know in which area they need to be monitored..

ex:

AdamX1 Sans-Fan {VIP} (Dragon-boolz) reported AdamX1 sucks wieners

Reason
[ x ] Harassment
[ x ] Swearing
[ ] Hacking or glitching
[ ] Asking for Account Info
[ ] Other

Other: If other was marked, please suggest the best way we can moderate/check-logs to find proof of violation of rules

Suggested-means-of-Proof
[ X ] Name, Status, or Chat-log (PMS included as well)
[ X ] Moderating/Keeping Tabs, Warping to player to track player



See how this report system would be better?

A player would use it rightfully to notify a staff like the report system SHOULD be used.

It shouldn't be used to give your side of the story.. that's an open-door to bias


That way the staff know WHY the person is being reported and can make decisions based off black and white guidelines that were presented to them to comply to Moderation Standards.

If a player checked Harassment/swearing/ asking for acc info obviously they would check logs.. If there wasn't anything in logs they would monitor the player for a while.
If it was for Hacking/Glitching they would just warp to them.

Also, if there is a player with high-violations, the first (given) warning should get them probation.


http://i.imgur.com/KeP3gGc.png
Gradual sanctions

(taken from a Habbo post)

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Posted by Habbo Hotel


"The biggest change in comparison to the old moderation system is that most of the sanctions are now gradual. The new ban chart progresses like so:

Alert
1 hour mute
18 hour ban
7 days ban
30 days ban I
30 days ban II
Permanent ban
From now on, one offense will move you one step ahead on the above chart, so you will want to be careful how you act in the hotel – especially if you’re in the latter stages of the gradual system!

NOTE: Mods will still use tougher sanctions for more severe misbehaviour! You can check the Habbo Way here .



Probation time

Sanctioned users are given a 30–60 day long probation period, which starts the moment the sanction ends. Once the probation time comes to an end, a Habbo user’s ban record gets wiped clean.

The 30 day probation period applies to users who have had one of the following sanctions imposed upon them:

Alert
1 hour mute
18 hours ban
7 days ban
The 60 day probation period applies to users who have had at least one of the following sanctions imposed upon them:

30 days ban I
30 days ban II
Where to check your current sanction status

You will be able to check your sanction record and remaining probation time by simply clicking the ”Help” button in the top right corner of the screen and proceeding to “My sanction status”.

Reporting a misbehaving user

You can report another user for being out of line by clicking the “Help” button on the top right corner of the screen, clicking “Someone is misbehaving” and then choosing the category that best fits the situation. You can find more tips for handling uncomfortable situations here.

Sending false reports is sanctionable from now on!

We want to provide our users with the very best moderation service and this means our moderators need to be able to concentrate on handling the real and legitimate reports that require intervention. This is why sending illegitimate or false reports that unnecessarily burden our moderation system will be sanctionable from now on. Illegitimate or false reports are CFHs sent for trolling, bullying or other way of misusing the reporting system. In the future, you will be able to keep reporting someone intentionally doing harm to others or themselves but just keep in mind that if you repeatedly make calls for help without good reason, you can be punished.

If you've read all the way to here, this tells us you care about being the best Habbo you can be possibly be. To show you that we care too, we've got two games for you to check out to mark the occasion. Head to the Ambassador Hub room for any questions you may still have and find the teleports that link you to two week-long events"

[Source: https://www.habbo.com/community/article/20142/20142 ]

Here's me reporting a user, you see how I get access to all chat-log from the moment I've stepped into the room and his chat-onward.
http://i.imgur.com/BrPkpI0.png

See how there's no bias?

http://i.imgur.com/H5Anx8I.png

Saber Alumba 06-26-2016 03:22 AM

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Posted by Striken (Post 717705)
You're stupid as ever. I've noticed many sparrers go on vacation and spar, and this was before the flag update yet nothing happens when they lag. Continue to be ignorant, Sarah just wants to spar and that's it, she's always had lag so I don't see why she had to be banned now rather than ages ago. The vpn part made me chuckle, do something about Paz, hell even that Johnny kid is delaying while on a us flag.

Your calling me ignorant ? You just said Sarah has always laged which is clearly not true , she's always delayed but lag is a whole different story... I've simply made a suggestion I've never stayed it's was exactly what she was banned for. Please don't call me stupid if your not gonna go and explain any valid backed up points thanks.

Thallen 06-26-2016 05:23 AM

http://puu.sh/pGfCy/902c4a740d.png

This is the level of intelligence of one of the people that group together to spam report Sarah.

Her accusation is that Sarah uses an "iOS emulator" and that she uses "auto fire," all the while faking poor English so that people believe she's Japanese.
Coincidentally, she's rank #3 on the monthly leaderboard. The Johnny Walker guy is rank #4. Sarah is rank #2. They're pretty much saying whatever they have to to get her banned and pass her.

I hope GPs aren't trusting the reports of someone stupid enough to believe that there is a fully-functional iOS emulator out there that works with Graal, because there isn't. It's cringey to see a bunch of bad sparrers gang together just to get one of the better ones banned.

James205 06-26-2016 07:05 AM

Maybe off topic but the reporting system seriously needs a rehaul, it's an absolute joke. Anyway grats to both for coming close to those numbers

Crono 06-26-2016 08:28 AM

If you guys have a better way to moderate 4.2k+ simultaneous players (let alone the 20k++ people who actually play) then you might wanna post it.

Mount, I don't think chat is logged. This idea also doesn't solve the problem of multiple people falsely reporting players for whatever reason.

CM 06-26-2016 08:31 AM

players: "report system needs a major overhaul and GPs suck"

devs: "how should we fix it?"

players: "report system needs a major overhaul and GPs suck"

Mount 06-26-2016 08:34 AM

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Posted by Crono (Post 717833)
If you guys have a better way to moderate 4.2k+ simultaneous players (let alone the 20k++ people who actually play) then you might wanna post it.

Mount, I don't think chat is logged. This idea also doesn't solve the problem of multiple people falsely reporting players for whatever reason.

If a player abuses the system a staff can ban from reports for whatever time.. If chat isn't logged then my idea minus overworld chatlog

Nothing can stop abusing a power besides taking the power away.

James205 06-26-2016 08:35 AM

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Posted by Crono (Post 717833)
If you guys have a better way to moderate 4.2k+ simultaneous players (let alone the 20k++ people who actually play) then you might wanna post it.

Mount, I don't think chat is logged. This idea also doesn't solve the problem of multiple people falsely reporting players for whatever reason.

actually pay people lol.

technically at my work i alone support over 20k users but we also have the infrastructure behind us to make improvements which graal obviously does not have because they refuse to put resources into that. So until that happens expect people to complain which in terms of this game means forever


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