the only thing keeping iDevices from getting on Mixed teams is that they choose to play in what most consider to be an easier tournament

Sarah, Abood, and maybe others would have been on the Alumni GST team every time if not for there being two tournaments
Prime has been doing it for years, Dark did it 2 or 3 times and was getting MVPs

I wouldn't expect any of you to support it though because higher chance at winning a hat > competition to 99% of people

Well whatever happens I hope they at least ask for the opinions of idevs who are gonna have their gst taken away cuz PC people asked for it. Don't see why they want to spar us anyways. Unless your friends with good PC teams you ain't gonna do **** in a mixed gst. It's nice having a choice and a chance

I'd like to request

• WaV vs Neidomu
• WaV vs Trollin

RD beat immortal 10-8, we went undefeated vs Whitebeard core, beat Skull's team when they were sparring for points 3-2 (we paused once.) We would more than likely beat every pc team except Holy. I think the better pc players like Thallen, Brett, David and Dante make it a little unfair, just my opinion.

2 tournaments is better, its the iClassic server afterall, although androids should be allowed. If idevs want a challenge they can always enter mixed.
A single spar tournament should just be mixed and be in-between gsts.

I think they're not allowed because they allow use of controllers and keyboards.

I don't mind what they do either way… Merging tournaments would only make it harder for everyone to win, and I'm all for competition
Not merging tournaments would give guilds a chance to win both, so I can't be mad about that

If they do end up merging then I can tell you that there won't be some team of the 5 best PC sparrers… I don't really enjoy that, plus most of the best Mixed GSers are inactive or don't do anything else other than the GST so they won't be very useful for points in the new system

I'd personally try to enter with people like Kosiris and maybe TeK or something, GST teams will probably be completely different because it won't be worth it to have inactives in your guild

Is this real life

whitebeard never really gs'd with their core lol, we didn't even have core in gst also I am pretty sure the statement isnt even correct

I’m pretty sure we’ve already previously established that you’re a special needs case, so I’ll try and explain this as simply as possible. Just because in practise conditions you beat a team that had some of the players from our team does not mean you would beat the actual core team in a finals scenario. If you seriously cannot comprehend the difference between practise and finals then or between a core team and practise team then theres really no hope for you. If we had faced your team in the GST there is genuinely no realistic scenario in which your team would win.

One of those players doesn’t belong in the same sentence as the others if you’re talking about GSing/GST performances.

brett sucks

been open to all longer than it was iExclusive

u idevicers have been raiding and participating in the mixed tourny for years now that they wanna join yours and make it universal you say no??? check your privilege

@Dae, considering how you blew up raging after we beat you, it was evident that you were trying (going for points.) Calling idevices "speed hackers" lol, special needs huh. Wasn't ur team, but you had 4/7 plus Dante. The only advantage neiehfnakdjdhnsj would have over us would be David and Zid. The rest of you don't utilise pc movement, the spar would be close/50-50.

Considering we were close to 2:1 vs Amity in practice, it demonstrates how practice does account for something outcome wise come GST.

Sportsmanship is when participating in a sport, not graal. Wouldn't except you to distinguish the two anyways, special needs huh

Mixed GST was never supposed to be PC exclusive. Mainly because when this all started, there were hardly any PC players around to have a full tournament-- hence why Mixed GST has always been 32-team, and iDev GST 64-team. But now that there's a larger PC playerbase, if you all want to change the "Mixed" GST to PC only, go ahead, iDevs wont care.

From reading that it doesn’t seem as though maths or even basic comprehension is within your ability. But I’ll reply, just on the off chance you can actually understand something for once. We had about 10 different players alternating between spars, I’m certain you didn’t even face the same team twice. From a few practise spars to then go on to say that you’d be the core team in GST conditions is just another level of stupid, that I didn’t even think you were capable of. To even think they’re comparable is ******ed. Your team would get slaughtered if you faced us in a GST it’s not even a discussion. Not even Kicko and Noss would be able to carry your dead weight then.

Oh, I’m so sorry. I wasn’t aware that you’re a frequent PC sparrer who now gives advice on how others utilise their “pc movement” (LOL?). Also, to say that in terms of GST performances Brett belongs in the same category as Dante, Thallen and David is just plain stupid. He basically went 15-24 in the GST finals and consistently does badly in GST conditions. The belief that Brett is somehow a top three or four GSer genuinely has no basis in reality.

This was made before your correction, and instead of 55 hits for 2nd match it's 54, because their 5th man warped out. Someone registered 2 hits on him, after the match though. For finals with my 6th hit taken, that makes it 113/113 and not 113/112.
http://i.imgur.com/V8p07hh.jpg

He was so good at distracting everyone. He made the enemy teams scatter a lot. He usually always gets mvp during scrims too.

Dead weight? I had a 1.2+ ratio in both big spars. Correction: We wouldn't necessarily win, but we wouldn't get slaughtered lol. Dead weight is you sitting in a corner providing zero teamwork, hits aren't exactly everything. If I'm correct you also choked in the clutch, I tied out my 1v3.

Pretty sure Brett enters for fun, doesn't take graal as seriously as yourself. Who cares if he did bad, he beat you. Also what Aguzo said about him drawing attention contributes. Someone count this clowns hits, doubt he did anything good. In Blackout my hit ratio was better than his in the finals lol (idev)

TBH if the GST's merge I couldn't care less, still would be fun.

http://www.antonine-education.co.uk/..._3/graph_5.JPG


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I think iDevs can hold their own in Mixed...we've seen it over past few seasons...People like PT, Toich, Kicko and Sarah have done good in Mixed...Even that one GST Abood did in Mixed he done pretty good too. I wouldn't mind a merger if it brings about competition and makes the top 32 teams the best 32 teams so all the matches from the get-go are all close.

@Dae, in round 1 vs Holy you provided zero teamwork, letting eko die. Dae had the chance to clutch 3x and didn't win once lol, dead weight. Everyone has bad gsts, no need to single someone out, this is karma

How is it unfair if they are that good lol

It's interesting there would be complaints about a mixed GST when I have never really heard any complaints about solo rooms being mixed. Are these people selective sparrers??

Singles =/= Guild spar

Also I need to agree with Dae on what he says about Brett.
I'm well aware I'm a terrible sparrer and gser but placing Brett within the top percentage of Mixed gsers and gsers in general is silly.

Thanks for providing the valuable insight from your total of one GST win in about four years of trying. I appreciate the advice lil buddy, will definitely take it on board as constructive criticism (LMAO?).

How can you even choke a clutch? Those two things are opposites of each other, you idiot. Congratulations on your 1 v 3 clutch, if it did actually happen. But to compare clutching against some idevs to facing Thallen and others in GST is a different matter. Thallen is the best GSer out there no idev player even comes close to comparing. But once again seems you struggle to differentiate between different situations, I can’t really help you there. Maybe ask one of the teachers at your special needs school to help you out not like you’re learning anything else from them.

Can you please make up your mind, either getting hits is important or it isn’t, you can’t have it both ways you ******.

A scarecrow could draw attention better and get hit less.

If I'm correct, you've won once without Thallen. So lets refrain ourselves from brining up each others wins.

You must be seriously passionate about Graal Classic GST and the amount of hits that each player registers! Keep it up :D

Ahh Dae... guy who complain abt sportmanship on gral sup XD

So if you remember this one win, I hope you realise who clutched in nearly every round we won (dae and me 2v4, dae and me 2v4, me 1v3)

to say dae is dead weight and can't clutch is ******ed

One GST win in the past four years of trying has got to be the worst record from anyone who’s ever won a GST. I feel confident in saying no one will ever better your embarrassing record. I’m genuinely unsure whether you should be happy you won a GST or humiliated it took you four long years of trying way too hard.

Both teams have around 50% of the arena, and brett decides to push in, he trades 1 hit, watch as 3-4 enemies chase after him, and he escapes. Just some of the many contributions he made for the team. John and I wanted him to rush in like this. Only lost that round, cause rm and I went 3-6, and we needed to go at least 6-6.

http://freegifmaker.me/video/1480382732272991.gif

Brett never went below 4-6, and he went 6-6 in the 4th round. Very consistent, and creates opportunities. Glad he was on the team.

Not going to take away from the fact that dark is a great gser, but his attitude is ******ed and the guy in general seems like an ass hole, He quite literally spends his name stalking my social media accounts and sending pictures of me to people.

I'd go as far as saying Dark is mentally handicapped and has some sick obsession with what people say about him and his groupies, he spends his time (we are speaking of a 18+ year old male here who attends university paid by his parents) harassing anyone who either:

A) Does not lick his boots
B) Disagrees with him on the topic guild sparring or any graal related events.

seems like he went for something risky there after getting tired of not getting hits, went 1-1, ran back.
the rest of the team managed to take more damage than ours in the process???
not sure how it's a contribution

if anything, you can see it forces you and rm to try and run to help, but get double hit in the process

if by consistent you mean consistently negative in gsts vs teams that matter, then sure.

also, he went 3-6 round 1

"team distractor" is not a real role

damn, I went full-****** this round

should also mention that I had weird some weird lag in the first round
the people on stream were complaining about me slashing directly through Dae and not hitting him but honestly it was probably partly my lag there too because I was seeing a lot of weird freezing and skipping for about ~30 seconds

Rip myself

I only really started taking GST's seriously from when I joined Alumni. Before then it was always with friends and like minded players. For example, I did one GST with the guild Soul of Ninjas, my tower guild. Anyways idc, I play for fun, not to boost my graal GST reputation.

@Red, I'm sure a ****** is capable of a 95.2 ATAR. Never actually searched your'e Facebook, just seems to trigger you

We tried to point out after that view in room was probably much different.

Well, even on my screen I swung through him but I'm pretty sure I was coming off of some bad lag spike so it was probably 80% my fault, not trying to criticize the commentators or anything
Looked like eko swung through me too when I was near that bottom wall

Nice to have some unbiased/different people commentating anyway

Viewing rooms need to be fixed, in the top wall and every corner people go invisible. A scoreboard implemented too. Thats not too much to ask for

Crono was in stream with us and actually commented that it was done on purpose, i forgot the reasoning. Scoreboard or who won a match (or tie) would also be helpful since iDev had like a million ties and we were left guessing (but had someone in twitch chat who was very helpful)

But yeah viewing rooms should be fixed ... and if admins would just warp me in to watch so I could stream atleast the finals it would be good for me.

Commentators sucked tbh anyone who has ever streamed on 205 is lame!!!!!!!!!

Also shoutout to Thallen (hey budy) for making an updated list of GS tiers amongst players on his site. Seems pretty accurate! In all seriousness it's cool to see where sparrers stand and progression (or retrogression) throughout seasons.

(Ps neidomu would probably 2-0 RD in a GST. Not saying RD is a bad team, just wanted to put my opinion out there, Neidomu was a hell of a team.)

After looking at Aguzo's hit register/taken texts. I've decided for next GST, I'll record all 4 GST Arenas in 1080p quality + LIVE hit register/taken in the side of the screen. SCREW YOU JAMES. You did a NOOB job with Graal videos when your real life job is in the same field.

When is tidus being moved to legend tier for gs listing

You'll end up screwing it up

I didn't finish updating those tiers today, I just pushed the changes live because I got lazy and just hoped no one would actually check and notice… I'll work on it more tomorrow or something, don't rage at me if I forgot to add you yet please

The day Paddie moves to Legend

xdd if i dont get move to gold or plat i kms

Got moved up :D

Oh, kind of sucks I have to be judged on my idevice performance, but I guess that is the tourney I entered

I always knew that the average Graalian isn't the smartest, when it comes to life choices, but jfc after this GST I am astonished how INKrecidibly dumb some people are

Amity vs Bool by request more coming