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Kyle Kol 09-10-2012 06:14 AM

Woah bro, too slow
 
New gun - ACR, it's nice for the price but it should have faster reload and freeze time, it does great damage (if you like sitting there a few minutes) but the speed makes me want a refund, seriously, it needs a speed-up

Andy 09-10-2012 06:17 AM

It doesn't need any upgrades. It's cheap and decent, increasing its reload and decreasing speed would just make it better than an M4.

Kyle Kol 09-10-2012 06:20 AM

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Posted by Andyy (Post 195752)
It doesn't need any upgrades. It's cheap and decent, increasing its reload and decreasing speed would just make it better than an M4.

Yeah, sorta the point I was getting at, its like a mini-M4

Andy 09-10-2012 06:22 AM

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Posted by Kyle Kol (Post 195754)
Yeah, sorta the point I was getting at, its like a mini-M4

M4 is 55k and the ACR is 12k.

Kyle Kol 09-10-2012 06:25 AM

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Posted by Andyy (Post 195755)

M4 is 55k and the ACR is 12k.

Uh huh, sorta rigging the system, but if you look at the stats the only thing different between M4 and the ACR is the speed and look, a failure that helped everyone without an M4

Oh, and the fact that ACR shoots 2 bullets instead of 1

Andy 09-10-2012 06:32 AM

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Posted by Kyle Kol (Post 195757)
Uh huh, sorta rigging the system, but if you look at the stats the only thing different between M4 and the ACR is the speed and look, a failure that helped everyone without an M4

Oh, and the fact that ACR shoots 2 bullets instead of 1

You're saying it needs an upgrade as if it's too weak, it's not. It's already good. :)

fsh 09-10-2012 06:32 AM

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Posted by Kyle Kol (Post 195750)
New gun - ACR, it's nice for the price but it should have faster reload and freeze time, it does great damage (if you like sitting there a few minutes) but the speed makes me want a refund, seriously, it needs a speed-up

More speed? Faster reload? Sounds like shipka to me.

Kyle Kol 09-10-2012 06:38 AM

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Posted by fsh (Post 195763)

More speed? Faster reload? Sounds like shipka to me.

Actually, if you read the conversation between me and Andyy you'll see that it's more of an M4

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Posted by Andyy (Post 195762)

You're saying it needs an upgrade as if it's too weak, it's not. It's already good. :)

Point taken :)

fsh 09-10-2012 06:55 AM

I did read the conversation.

An Acr shoots 2 bullets while M4 only shoots one. Acr has a long reload and M4 has fast reload.
M4:55k Acr:12k Two different guns, the Acr does not need a buff at all.

Billy 09-10-2012 01:06 PM

You're joking right? The gun freaking rapes in spar and pk.

iMask 09-10-2012 01:22 PM

If anything, the ACR will get a nerf.

Kyle Kol 09-10-2012 02:11 PM

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Posted by Billy (Post 195811)
You're joking right? The gun freaking rapes in spar and pk.

Yep, then you get raped while reloading

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Posted by iMask (Post 195813)
If anything, the ACR will get a nerf.

Or a price increase like the M4 hopefully

Actually, you person who said it rapes at spar, I kept getting killed because of reloads, it should get a reload/freeze decrease and a price increase

MementoJoker 09-10-2012 02:46 PM

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Posted by Kyle Kol (Post 195820)
Yep, then you get raped while reloading



Or a price increase like the M4 hopefully

Actually, you person who said it rapes at spar, I kept getting killed because of reloads, it should get a reload/freeze decrease and a price increase

Increasing the price.
"Omg it's worse than expected, I WANT A REFUND." threads.

Nezo 09-10-2012 03:58 PM

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Posted by Kyle Kol (Post 195750)
New gun - ACR, it's nice for the price but it should have faster reload and freeze time, it does great damage (if you like sitting there a few minutes) but the speed makes me want a refund, seriously, it needs a speed-up

The acr is 12k
It deals 8 damage
Shoots two bullets
What more do you want? This gun is already overpower for its price

SnakeRekon 09-10-2012 04:04 PM

I shall never trust Snk again when he says he's double checked stats with other weapons for its price lmfao.

As I heard from Snk, ACR is a cheaper version of Shipka basically.

Olirus 09-10-2012 04:55 PM

Acr is too cheap in my view, even if you have cut it down by mag size and whatnot it's still too powerful for what it is, FAMAS 30k that's another 18k more isn't even as good

Infernus Lapse 09-10-2012 04:57 PM

It was a good concept to make some cheap guns, ill admit it. It shows that staff are trying to make cheap guns that are yet still functional.

Kiko 09-10-2012 06:55 PM

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Posted by Kyle Kol (Post 195750)
New gun - ACR, it's nice for the price but it should have faster reload and freeze time, it does great damage (if you like sitting there a few minutes) but the speed makes me want a refund, seriously, it needs a speed-up

Be greatful its not 65k.
Nothing is wrong with the gun, if you want more speed, it'll be a more expensive gun.

iMask 09-10-2012 08:50 PM

Guys, be thankful that this gun is only 12k. So what that it has a slow reload. It's shipka and M4 combined for 12k

People always find ways to complain...

BboyEatsbacon 09-10-2012 08:57 PM

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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 195847)
I shall never trust Snk again when he says he's double checked stats with other weapons for its price lmfao.

As I heard from Snk, ACR is a cheaper version of Shipka basically.

You guys did note that the ACR & M1 Carbine were never supposed to be released, right?

NightD.Gray-Man 09-10-2012 09:00 PM

I would actually prefer if the acr shot 1 bullet

Billy 09-10-2012 09:53 PM

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Posted by Kyle Kol (Post 195820)
Yep, then you get raped while reloading


Well that's you,I reload in a safe place where they can't catch up to me. You just suck no offense. Also you can do a quick-switch to reload faster.

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Posted by Kyle Kol (Post 195820)

Actually, you person who said it rapes at spar, I kept getting killed because of reloads, it should get a reload/freeze decrease and a price increase

Again,because you suck.

It's a fken 12k gun if it had a fast reload then it would be overpowered.

BabyGhost 09-10-2012 10:02 PM

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Posted by BboyEatsbacon (Post 195952)
You guys did note that the ACR & M1 Carbine were never supposed to be released, right?

Why wasn't it supposed to be released? Now that I think of it, I want P2k and SG556 to be next. Along with the sniper rifle.

CHAOS* 09-10-2012 11:19 PM

Famas and ACR should be swapped in my opinon

Kyle Kol 09-11-2012 12:01 AM

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Posted by Nezo EBIZOU (Post 195843)

The acr is 12k
It deals 8 damage
Shoots two bullets
What more do you want? This gun is already overpower for its price

Yeah, that was an earlier comment, I've noticed that its great for the price, but should be raised to around 40K+ price and have the freeze/reload time lowered

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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 195847)
I shall never trust Snk again when he says he's double checked stats with other weapons for its price lmfao.

As I heard from Snk, ACR is a cheaper version of Shipka basically.

Yeah, it's a great deal and Snk sorta gave us all a break in the price

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Posted by Kiko (Post 195894)

Be greatful its not 65k.
Nothing is wrong with the gun, if you want more speed, it'll be a more expensive gun.

Yeah, I've been mentioning a price increase this whole time, it's should get a price increase

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Posted by BboyEatsbacon (Post 195952)

You guys did note that the ACR & M1 Carbine were never supposed to be released, right?

Oh... My... God... That's an interesting fact, should've known that in advance

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Posted by NightD.Gray-Man (Post 195956)
I would actually prefer if the acr shot 1 bullet

Same here, less waste, but then it would be too much like the M4, no one wants an M4 copy-cat

NightD.Gray-Man 09-11-2012 12:15 AM

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Posted by Kyle Kol (Post 196063)
Same here, less waste, but then it would be too much like the M4, no one wants an M4 copy-cat

so any gun that shoots 1 bullet and does 8 damage is an m4 copycat*looks at 7 other guns that shoot 1 bullet and do 8 damage* I see your logic.
Isn't it basically a shipka copycat now?

poorface 09-11-2012 12:24 AM

I honestly like the pistol more. I only bought the ACR because I like its look :)

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Posted by BabyGhost (Post 195984)
Why wasn't it supposed to be released? Now that I think of it, I want P2k and SG556 to be next. Along with the sniper rifle.

Jester's sniper rifle, right? :p

Kyle Kol 09-11-2012 12:42 AM

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Posted by poorface (Post 196079)
I honestly like the pistol more. I only bought the ACR because I like its look :)

Jester's sniper rifle, right? :p

The ACR does look cool, one of the reasons I bought it, but I bought it more for the function, not the form

Sup3rn00b 09-11-2012 01:14 AM

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Posted by poorface (Post 196079)
pistol

SO OP

bobo 09-11-2012 01:19 AM

The ACR is perfect for its price. There's no point in increasing the price to improve the stats, several players would then have a discount on a really good gun. The reload time adds a little challenge when using it, but it can be countered using the manual reload rather than spamming until the clip is empty.

poorface 09-11-2012 01:28 AM

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Posted by Sup3rn00b (Post 196108)
SO OP

Heck yeah it is :)

iCool 09-11-2012 02:02 AM

I'd like to congratulate Kyle for making himself look stupid in only one post. Gold medal for you sir.

BboyEatsbacon 09-12-2012 08:30 PM

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Posted by BabyGhost (Post 195984)
Why wasn't it supposed to be released? Now that I think of it, I want P2k and SG556 to be next. Along with the sniper rifle.

The M1 wasn't anywhere near finish. I still had to finish getting a GFX to touch-up the GFX and for me to personally go through and work on the animations. Other than that, we still had to fix all of the stats.

The ACR was way too different to iEra's style. MD even imported it with almost exact same stats as the PC ACR.

Olirus 09-12-2012 09:17 PM

All the new guns are o/p for the price although not so much the M1


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