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RedBoy786* 10-24-2012 04:20 PM

Spar Boosting
 
Okay, so basically, I was in spar failing as usual xD. Then, as I kept on losing I left but my gang member was still there. A couple of minutes later he gang messaged me saying there are these two guys boosting in spar underground. When I went there, the guy was on a 10 streak. I thought to myself lets end this streak and show this guy who's baws. However, somehow I was unable to join and the suspect, DonTouchMe, had gotten to a whopping 50 streak whilst the rest us of were just wondering why we couldn't join and how him and his partner, who was his gang leader, $hadow, kept on repeatedly joining. This was boosting. A later realized how he did it and that was by his opponent doubly tapping the home button and then joining again. Somehow, when his oponent lost and joined back, he was in front of the line to the spar which meant he kept on losing thus DonTouchMe kept on winning. He got up to like 50 spar streak and then his leader had to go or something. I warned him but he wouldn't listen as well as trying to find an online admin which there were none of at that potential time of 10:30am approx GMT.
He was boosting. Something serious has to be done about this matter as this has gone out of hand in the past few days in the era community. I believe that him, as well as the victim supporting him (who was his gang leader) should suffer a spar and kill reset as well as a ban as his motive was wrong and he knew he was doing the wrong thing as well as me telling him to stop several times.
Luckily, for the first ever time I took loads of pictures (WOOT WOOT!) for proof that I am not lying or making up baloney.
Link:http://s1298.beta.photobucket.com/us...57b12.png.html

Let this incident be a warning for other potential boosters who I am aware of but unfortunately do not have proof thus I shall not name and shame anyone else.
A serious punishment should be put in place (for both DonTouchMe and his leader, $hadow) such as:
- Spar/PK reset
- Item reset
- Gun reset
- A possible 7 day ban to ensure he has learnt his lessons (if u can't do the time, don't do the crime')
- Suggestions?

Also, since spar boosting is illegal, members of staff should broadcast it alongside sever punishments to ensure new players (or even old players in this case) are not motivated in entering the 'boosting' life. Players like me play and learn to spar as well as learning the basics (which can take forever) such as dodging and other spar tactics whilst others can just boost and get better stats than us. This is (in my rightful opinion and many others) NOT fair and should be dealt with in a serious manner by a staff.

ps- I have nothing personal with DonTouchMe. I just can't accept the fact that people can earn those easy wins whilst people like me have to earn them.

Thank you for reading and I hope this is dealt with asap. :)

Johnaudi 10-24-2012 04:34 PM

The home button thingy doesn't add anymore spar kills I suppose, and about the streak, it's nothing really...

P.S: what would really help is that you report him saying "Boosting in spar" next time, it would spare a lot of time.

RedBoy786* 10-24-2012 04:42 PM

He went onto getting a 50 killstreak which also means getting 50 spar wins in less then 5 mins. :/ Since he can do this in underground spar, its highly likely that he (as well as other boosters) do it in spar complex etc thus getting free spar wins= ILLEGAL and I'm highly sure he has boosted more than that.

This has occured so many times before so I believe a punishment should be added so other players think twice before boosting and also so boosting stops. It's just unfair how these people get easy wins whilst legit people like myself spar for hours which a booster can obtain in a few minutes.

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Posted by Johnaudi (Post 219902)
The home button thingy doesn't add anymore spar kills I suppose, and about the streak, it's nothing really...

P.S: what would really help is that you report him saying "Boosting in spar" next time, it would spare a lot of time.

Many of us reported him but since nothing has been done I was forced to make a thread. Also, I am 100% sure it is not just him but many others who also boost. C'mon, I see people with 1000 spar wins and 10 losses who literally suck. I am also sure of many others who boost but just waiting for the right moment when I catch them red handed.

Ghettoicedtea 10-24-2012 07:55 PM

ya admins need to start to weild the "ban hammer" better. I see a ton of spar boosters who spar unfairly. The most recent one i saw was this nub fighting a noob and he went on winning 50 in a row. The noob just stood in one spot.

Jester Lapse 10-24-2012 08:14 PM

How do you know that's what he was doing?


On the subject of boosting, stats mean nothing in the eyes of a true sparrer. Why? Because you can sit at complex all day sparring nubs and get a 5000-0 record. You can boost like wiz used to and get 10,000-3000. Stats are meaningless. Trust me. Because most people don't have the skill to back up their stats.

For example take Paul Frank, me coming off my 3 month break of era decide to have a little fun and join TTS. Paul is on the opposing team using a souzin. If you've ever sparred a souzin you know they are fast and a bit hard to dodge, especially at half health. He ended up taking me out and talking crap saying he was a better sparrer even though he had to use a spam gun.
I decide to prove him wrong and organize a M4 vs M4 match. Basically a skill match, I won 3-0. In that case it was the gun, not the sparrer. So that's why stats mean nothing to anyone who is a true sparrer. There are too many variables to just judge someone off stats alone.

Ghettoicedtea 10-24-2012 08:23 PM

Then you sir are not good at beating a souizen. There really not that bad, just counter spam with a faster gun like a tec9 or ap7 witch are the fastest guns in the game. Works 80% of the time for me. also some people are better with spam weapons, the only guns that really take no skill at all to use is the bar and pbp.

also m4 can still be spammed, sten takes more skill sense it has more accuracy, but thats my opinion

Jester Lapse 10-24-2012 08:25 PM

I don't use "fast" guns in spar. I use M4 and most recent Thompson to test it out. That's the problem with the next gen of sparers. It's all about getting the fastest gun for you guys, not actually using skill and taking the time to utilize dodge and make every shot count as you have to with M4 rather than spamming bottom with a bar or shouzin or tec and calling yourself pro.

Meph 10-24-2012 08:31 PM

I don't care about some guy jacking his stats up-- PKers with merit don't even look at stats.

I do care that these fellas were inconveniencing other players by staking a monopoly on the spar arena.

I'll keep an eye out for this fella.

And, while it's being mentioned, I frown on those who use fast guns.
Years ago, fast guns didn't exist. But we had sprayers.
The difference was, the sprayers were penalized for spraying. The freeze on guns left them vulnerable. I wish I could bring back this combat- I think so many people would appreciate it.

The problem is that there's too many people who will feel like they're losing the ability to win easily. People who paid seven million dollars for the ability to win without skill.

Ghettoicedtea 10-24-2012 08:35 PM

Oh no your sir are very wrong, see i use ap7s to replace my steampunk.

every shot for me counts, if i go spam the crap outta ap7 the reload will get me killed. So i have to dodge bullets and take the time to dodge. when I spar if you give me a chance to spam ill take it. Also the fastest guns have super high freeze making it extremely easy for old school sparrers to take out a spammer.

Jester Lapse 10-24-2012 08:37 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 219981)
Oh no your sir are very wrong, see i use ap7s to replace my steampunk.

every shot for me counts, if i go spam the crap outta ap7 the reload will get me killed. So i have to dodge bullets and take the time to dodge. when I spar if you give me a chance to spam ill take it. Also the fastest guns have super high freeze making it extremely easy for old school sparrers to take out a spammer.

Kai you come spar me with half hp and I'll bottom hug with a spam gun see how you fair :roll:

Meph 10-24-2012 08:43 PM

In lieu of my last post, here's an example of somebody crying about the last large-scale nerf I did.
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums....php?p=1444861

Jester Lapse 10-24-2012 08:48 PM

Quote:

Posted by Meph (Post 219988)
In lieu of my last post, here's an example of somebody crying about the last large-scale nerf I did.
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums....php?p=1444861

Tough life of meph

NightD.Gray-Man 10-24-2012 08:51 PM

The main reason people boost there spar stats is because they want the spar hats

ManBearPig 10-24-2012 09:31 PM

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Posted by RedBoy786* (Post 219895)
Okay, so basically, I was in spar failing as usual xD. Then, as I kept on losing I left but my gang member was still there. A couple of minutes later he gang messaged me saying there are these two guys boosting in spar underground. When I went there, the guy was on a 10 streak. I thought to myself lets end this streak and show this guy who's baws. However, somehow I was unable to join and the suspect, DonTouchMe, had gotten to a whopping 50 streak whilst the rest us of were just wondering why we couldn't join and how him and his partner, who was his gang leader, $hadow, kept on repeatedly joining. This was boosting. A later realized how he did it and that was by his opponent doubly tapping the home button and then joining again. Somehow, when his oponent lost and joined back, he was in front of the line to the spar which meant he kept on losing thus DonTouchMe kept on winning. He got up to like 50 spar streak and then his leader had to go or something. I warned him but he wouldn't listen as well as trying to find an online admin which there were none of at that potential time of 10:30am approx GMT.
He was boosting. Something serious has to be done about this matter as this has gone out of hand in the past few days in the era community. I believe that him, as well as the victim supporting him (who was his gang leader) should suffer a spar and kill reset as well as a ban as his motive was wrong and he knew he was doing the wrong thing as well as me telling him to stop several times.

Yeah i saw those guys too (shadow and dontouchme) it was pretty annoying and shadow started calling everyone noobs while doing it lol
I think the spar streak system is annoying it takes ages to join a match :/

slick 10-24-2012 09:59 PM

Quote:

Posted by RedBoy786* (Post 219895)
Okay, so basically, I was in spar failing as usual xD. Then, as I kept on losing I left but my gang member was still there. A couple of minutes later he gang messaged me saying there are these two guys boosting in spar underground. When I went there, the guy was on a 10 streak. I thought to myself lets end this streak and show this guy who's baws. However, somehow I was unable to join and the suspect, DonTouchMe, had gotten to a whopping 50 streak whilst the rest us of were just wondering why we couldn't join and how him and his partner, who was his gang leader, $hadow, kept on repeatedly joining. This was boosting. A later realized how he did it and that was by his opponent doubly tapping the home button and then joining again. Somehow, when his oponent lost and joined back, he was in front of the line to the spar which meant he kept on losing thus DonTouchMe kept on winning. He got up to like 50 spar streak and then his leader had to go or something. I warned him but he wouldn't listen as well as trying to find an online admin which there were none of at that potential time of 10:30am approx GMT.
He was boosting. Something serious has to be done about this matter as this has gone out of hand in the past few days in the era community. I believe that him, as well as the victim supporting him (who was his gang leader) should suffer a spar and kill reset as well as a ban as his motive was wrong and he knew he was doing the wrong thing as well as me telling him to stop several times.
Luckily, for the first ever time I took loads of pictures (WOOT WOOT!) for proof that I am not lying or making up baloney.
Link:http://s1298.beta.photobucket.com/us...57b12.png.html

Let this incident be a warning for other potential boosters who I am aware of but unfortunately do not have proof thus I shall not name and shame anyone else.
A serious punishment should be put in place (for both DonTouchMe and his leader, $hadow) such as:
- Spar/PK reset
- Item reset
- Gun reset
- A possible 7 day ban to ensure he has learnt his lessons (if u can't do the time, don't do the crime')
- Suggestions?

Also, since spar boosting is illegal, members of staff should broadcast it alongside sever punishments to ensure new players (or even old players in this case) are not motivated in entering the 'boosting' life. Players like me play and learn to spar as well as learning the basics (which can take forever) such as dodging and other spar tactics whilst others can just boost and get better stats than us. This is (in my rightful opinion and many others) NOT fair and should be dealt with in a serious manner by a staff.

ps- I have nothing personal with DonTouchMe. I just can't accept the fact that people can earn those easy wins whilst people like me have to earn them.

Thank you for reading and I hope this is dealt with asap. :)


Stop being a little girl it's just a game

Jester Lapse 10-24-2012 10:01 PM

Quote:

Posted by slick (Post 220033)

Stop being a little girl it's just a game

Says the one who has some ebi member on blast in his prof pic status and a thread. Lmfao

Engel 10-24-2012 10:11 PM

Quote:

Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 220037)
Says the one who has some ebi member on blast in his prof pic status and a thread. Lmfao

Nailed that, haha

Richard 10-25-2012 05:55 PM

Quote:

Posted by Meph (Post 219988)
In lieu of my last post, here's an example of somebody crying about the last large-scale nerf I did.

Meph, i can already see your work reflecting in iEra and i can't say i'm impressed..

No offense or anything, of course.

Chez 10-25-2012 06:09 PM

I agree, however, boosting is so bad on Graal that they should be banned for more than 7 days.. but forever

RedBoy786* 10-25-2012 06:26 PM

Ok, IDGAF about who beat who in spar and how Paul sucks at spar etc etc. What I do want is some sort of action taken. If none is taken, you admins are just implying that spar boosting is legal then and I don't see the point of me actually working hard towards a hat, sparring continuously whilst others can just boost. I'd be motivated to boost myself if that's the outcome and be a rebellion.

Engel 10-26-2012 12:55 AM

Quote:

Posted by Richard (Post 220567)
Meph, i can already see your work reflecting in iEra and i can't say i'm impressed..

No offense or anything, of course.

He's not impressed

MOAR NERFINGS!!1!

DragonRider 10-26-2012 02:10 AM

Quote:

Posted by RedBoy786* (Post 219895)

Let this incident be a warning for other potential boosters who I am aware of but unfortunately do not have proof thus I shall not name and shame anyone else.
A serious punishment should be put in place (for both DonTouchMe and his leader, $hadow) such as:
- Spar/PK reset
- Item reset
- Gun reset
- A possible 7 day ban to ensure he has learnt his lessons (if u can't do the time, don't do the crime')
- Suggestions?

What the hell? That's for something like Identify scamming, not spar boosting. How about a spar score reset?

Zero02 10-26-2012 02:32 AM

Quote:

Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 219991)
Tough life of meph

Agreed ._.

Quote:

Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 220037)
Says the one who has some ebi member on blast in his prof pic status and a thread. Lmfao

Burned!

bobo 10-26-2012 03:14 AM

Easy way to beat a souizen: rush from the top, at point blank, the souizen shooting upward should shoot right through you without hitting you.

Yogy* 10-26-2012 04:03 AM

A person with souizen will make a step to the right and attack you from there. I sparred with rec alot...

Jester Lapse 10-26-2012 06:34 AM

TTS is a smaller arena in case you guys forgot. I know how to spar lmfao

GOON 10-27-2012 07:19 PM

Damn Redboy you really took your time and elaborated a long novel about boosting spar kills hahaha.

BEH0LD iTz SAM 10-28-2012 02:54 AM

Quote:

Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 219964)
How do you know that's what he was doing?


On the subject of boosting, stats mean nothing in the eyes of a true sparrer. Why? Because you can sit at complex all day sparring nubs and get a 5000-0 record. You can boost like wiz used to and get 10,000-3000. Stats are meaningless. Trust me. Because most people don't have the skill to back up their stats.

For example take Paul Frank, me coming off my 3 month break of era decide to have a little fun and join TTS. Paul is on the opposing team using a souzin. If you've ever sparred a souzin you know they are fast and a bit hard to dodge, especially at half health. He ended up taking me out and talking crap saying he was a better sparrer even though he had to use a spam gun.
I decide to prove him wrong and organize a M4 vs M4 match. Basically a skill match, I won 3-0. In that case it was the gun, not the sparrer. So that's why stats mean nothing to anyone who is a true sparrer. There are too many variables to just judge someone off stats alone.

Lol Paul Frank

RedBoy786* 10-28-2012 09:30 AM

Quote:

Posted by GOON (Post 222081)
Damn Redboy you really took your time and elaborated a long novel about boosting spar kills hahaha.

It was worth it because now I am aware that no action will be taken towards spar boosting. Don't know about you guys but I'm of to underground spar with my 2nd iPhone to do a little 'something' which the staff take no action towards.

#12500SparKillsHereICome

Meph 10-29-2012 10:03 PM

Quote:

Posted by RedBoy786* (Post 222392)
It was worth it because now I am aware that no action will be taken towards spar boosting. Don't know about you guys but I'm of to underground spar with my 2nd iPhone to do a little 'something' which the staff take no action towards.

#12500SparKillsHereICome

Hahah.
I say go for it, if you really want it.

It may be because I'm old school, but my opinion on it is that it's just a hat.

Anybody can wear a hat-- at the end of the day, a hat won't show me how good of a PKer somebody is.

RedBoy786* 10-29-2012 10:13 PM

Quote:

Posted by Meph (Post 223232)
Hahah.
I say go for it, if you really want it.

It may be because I'm old school, but my opinion on it is that it's just a hat.

Anybody can wear a hat-- at the end of the day, a hat won't show me how good of a PKer somebody is.

I was being sarcastic by the way lmao.

But yeh, back on topic, so spar boosting is legal then? And no action will be taken towards boosters?

Aleksandr 10-29-2012 10:15 PM

Quote:

Posted by Meph (Post 219988)
In lieu of my last post, here's an example of somebody crying about the last large-scale nerf I did.
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums....php?p=1444861

Is it possible for you to bring back era 2011 ish stats... Before the 'Great Nerf Week' when cloyd was forced to nerf all the guns , but resiegned because he just couldn't face it... Bring those stats back. The good m4. The ok pbp. The actually themed items , lol because i don't think a gangster would go around swinging a lollipop , spraying around his taco bazooka , picking up garbage with a cigarrete or pencil. Oh , and please revert Gz and Pz back to normal . They look mad ******ty now.

Billy 10-30-2012 02:12 AM

Duke went from 10k to 20k in like 2 weeks o.o

Duke is cool and all but I heard he was caught boosting AGAIN..

Cloyd 11-09-2012 12:02 AM

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Posted by KeroObsidian (Post 223237)
Is it possible for you to bring back era 2011 ish stats... Before the 'Great Nerf Week' when cloyd was forced to nerf all the guns , but resiegned because he just couldn't face it

Geez, you make this sound like we're in a soap.

I wasn't forced to nerf anything, I wanted to do it. Also, I was fired before I got to finish well, anything. If 100% is complete, I was fired when I only had 3% completed. As you can see, that's nothing. That's why things were the way they were when I left. I don't know what BBoy did when he was GA, nor do I really care, but the fact that Meph is the new Guns Admin makes me want to play iEra even more. Meph is my oldest friend from Graal and shares the same views on PKing that I do. I know he'll be great and I can't wait to start playing again. I'm glad he's the GA.

BboyEatsbacon 11-09-2012 01:15 AM

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Posted by Cloyd (Post 229596)
I don't know what BBoy did when he was GA, nor do I really care,

ily 2, Cloyd<3

Cloyd 11-09-2012 01:51 AM

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Posted by BboyEatsbacon (Post 229615)
ily 2, Cloyd<3

Wasn't trying to offend you for the record. Just telling the truth, I didn't care. Even if it was somebody else. The fact I heard Meph was the new GA brought my attention back to iEra because me and him are so alike especially in our views on PKing.

Ghettoicedtea 11-09-2012 01:55 AM

the great nerf week.. i remember that...

Meph 11-09-2012 03:59 AM

Quote:

Posted by Cloyd (Post 229633)
Wasn't trying to offend you for the record. Just telling the truth, I didn't care. Even if it was somebody else. The fact I heard Meph was the new GA brought my attention back to iEra because me and him are so alike especially in our views on PKing.

2002 players ftw.
On the real, though- Cloyd and I probably have the same mindset when it comes to guns, PKing, and Era in general.

I'd love to have him on the team again.

Clique, clique, clique.

iRiley 11-10-2012 12:03 PM

Quote:

Posted by Meph (Post 229721)
2002 players ftw.
On the real, though- Cloyd and I probably have the same mindset when it comes to guns, PKing, and Era in general.

I'd love to have him on the team again.

Clique, clique, clique.

noob lover

Ozzy_Magus 11-10-2012 02:14 PM

@Cloyd/Meph
I bet not even a single booster on era,that was caught/reported by players,or caught by staff has been reset or whatever.
And you're right the hats mean nothing,but I don't even wear my masks(spar hats) because so many people have been boosting to get them and they suck.
Do you get the problem?We spar like crazy 24/7,we get MAX 200 wins a day(thanks to the new streak-system) and there are people that just f****** boost and get our reputation down,cuz they suck...
I bet my house,that out of 30 people that have 10k+ wins,not more than 10 are legit.
And what annoys me the most is the players "honnoring" them because of their godly stats.Just recently:an unknown guy pretending to be Flux from pc or whatever(which he isn't) has 12.000-1000 and NO ONE on era has such stats,and like all the boosters,you never see them spar against you or in public.They just boost,don't spar.
And that's simply unfair,idiotic.

Berries 11-10-2012 08:02 PM

Why do people that started their graal playing on iera, and became good at sparring on a phone think that they are the all mighty authority in this stuff? Listen to meph and cloyd, people.

DragonRider 11-10-2012 08:07 PM

Quote:

Posted by KeroObsidian (Post 223237)
Is it possible for you to bring back era 2011 ish stats... Before the 'Great Nerf Week' when cloyd was forced to nerf all the guns , but resiegned because he just couldn't face it... Bring those stats back. The good m4. The ok pbp. The actually themed items , lol because i don't think a gangster would go around swinging a lollipop , spraying around his taco bazooka , picking up garbage with a cigarrete or pencil. Oh , and please revert Gz and Pz back to normal . They look mad ******ty now.

Forced? You best be joking.

DonTouchMe 07-19-2013 02:50 AM

DonTouchMe graal is legit
 
Guy i didnt do any thing from ur **** i didnt boost spar Redboy idk why they accubt u to be admin ever one hate u :unsure:

fsh 07-19-2013 04:57 AM

ahh, the beatiful ****ing ******s on this forum

MonicaLewinsky 07-19-2013 05:16 AM

Quote:

Posted by DonTouchMe (Post 388724)
Guy i didnt do any thing from ur **** i didnt boost spar Redboy idk why they accubt u to be admin ever one hate u :unsure:

Here, lemme translate that from ****** to english. Guys, I didn't do anything. From your **** I didn't boost spar, Redboy. I don't know why the accepted you to be an admin, everyone hates you.

OT: Redboy, if you care so much about this topic, take charge. Be a leade and crack down on boosters, hell aren't you staff?

failure 07-19-2013 05:20 AM

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Posted by Hayze (Post 388800)
Here, lemme translate that from ****** to english. Guys, I didn't do anything. From your **** I didn't boost spar, Redboy. I don't know why the accepted you to be an admin, everyone hates you.

OT: Redboy, if you care so much about this topic, take charge. Be a leade and crack down on boosters, hell aren't you staff?

This is from a really long time ago, the guy bumped it. Redboy wasn't staff when this thread was made.

Ghettoicedtea 07-19-2013 05:28 AM

[QUOTE=fsh;388795]ahh, the beatiful ****ing ******s on this what makes them even more ******ed than bumping old threads especially since spar boosting has been cracked down on

MonicaLewinsky 07-19-2013 06:53 AM

Quote:

Posted by failure (Post 388803)
This is from a really long time ago, the guy bumped it. Redboy wasn't staff when this thread was made.

Ah, thanks for clearing that up.


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