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twilit 11-11-2012 03:41 AM

Make outside MoD nonpk! (and a ton of randomness)
 
Future Improvements is my favorite subforum. But sadly lately it hasnt been as active as it once was:(

So heres a few random things!

-Make the area outside MoD Fort non-pk. Ive mentioned this several times in past threads but now i cant stress it more. here we go...
Spoiler
(excerpt from an email i sent to Classic)
Recently, every weekend there have been at least a dozen players getting 1000+ kills per day. In fact, a few people are even getting 3-6 thousand kills in one day. On a normal day months ago, getting 1000 kills in a day was rare.

This only happens because of the large crowd in front of the MoD Fort sword spamming (the have also been past, and reoccuring, problems with arrow spammers too). All they do is stand in one spot hitting the sword button repeatedly, which takes no skill whatsoever. This takes the same effort as respawn boosting. Not to mention respawn boosting is also at large problem outside MoD. I hate watching these people boost to get kills easily outside, while I make all of my kills inside MoD fairly.

Also, a common hobby for the boosters outside is to block the entrance to MoD, which is really annoying for the people who are trying to get inside to do their killing or, God forbid, take the flag. Sometimes the flag will be at 20/250 and I die outside four times before pushing my way inside with .5hp, and by that time the flag is aleady back at full 250/250.

So my solution is to make the area outside MoD a non-pk zone. This will stop people from getting easy kills, stop illegal respawn boosters, and make it easier to get inside. Hopefully it's not a problem to create a non-pk zone around MoD without making the actual MoD flag room non-pk.


-House/GH levels grid:
Spoiler
ok so some furniture pieces arent a whole number of tiles wide/tall (for example something could be 2.5 tiles wide). when you lay the furniture piece its in one spot, but when you reenter house it will have shifted diagonally a half tile... not a big deal really.. the problem is this same glitch makes it impossible to use horizontal railroad...


-Statues furniture: the grab statue in red barn. Dont you hate it when you accidently grab and ruin a statue? Theres an option where visitors arent allowed to use it. But there really needs to be an option to lock statues from yourself too lol.

-A few random other ideas: If I were any crueler of a Graalian, I would definately bump each of these threads. (all cool ideas but will never happen)

Auto-Events
GuildSparTower
Spouse-Shared Guild House
GraalPC Events ~> iClassic Events
^-Those are links btw

Kiwi 11-11-2012 03:44 AM

I haven't looked at the links, but I agree about MoD. And the other one should probably just go in the bug reporting thing.

Higbey 11-11-2012 03:45 AM

It's not active because most iclassic staff don't do what they should and visit it.

For Galen's sake, we have been trying to get the onnet town stairs moved back to where they should be and not even that is listened to!

Pazx 11-11-2012 03:47 AM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 231051)
It's not active because most iclassic staff don't do what they should and visit it.

For Galen's sake, we have been trying to get the onnet town stairs moved back to where they should be and not even that is listened to!

I honestly can't see why anyone would complain about the stairs being moved. Keep whining about pointless things and when you bring up a serious matter everybody will ignore you.

Kiwi 11-11-2012 03:50 AM

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Posted by Pazx (Post 231054)
I honestly can't see why anyone would complain about the stairs being moved. Keep whining about pointless things and when you bring up a serious matter everybody will ignore you.

People complain because it takes about two seconds more time to get to the stairs, and it's quite a thin area.

Zazzi* 11-11-2012 04:11 AM

I love this idea and the ideas that were linked as well. It would finally make MoD Tower an actual tower to organize a raid than just pking a battlefield outside.

topsamman 11-11-2012 04:24 AM

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Posted by twilit (Post 231048)

-Make the area outside MoD Fort non-pk.

No No No NO :mean:

twilit 11-11-2012 05:10 AM

eh? why was this moved out of Future Improvements?

and-^ youre probably only saying "no" because youre one of those people who do this and think prosthetic stats are k00l.

Zen 11-11-2012 05:33 AM

All stats are meaningless fake stats. Pking ruined by boosting. Bk's can be easily boosted by waiting in water. Hours you can just afk. Spar same problem with boosting. I honestly don't see why we hold on to these stats like they're sacred.

Bubba De Orc 11-11-2012 01:42 PM

Df twilit. Now you don't want us players to get 100k pks+ like you? Lets just carry on, and enjoy Graal. MoD is less crowded than before it was when it was placed at the center of Graal.

Blueh 11-11-2012 05:19 PM

RPS takes true skill...

Winter 11-11-2012 06:05 PM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 231051)
For Galen's sake, we have been trying to get the onnet town stairs moved back to where they should be and not even that is listened to!

I think the new stairs are temporary so the LAT can see what they are dealing with on the overworld. Maybe something new is opening there pretty soon? A better approach on the ever-so-popular stairs??

I don't think the area really needs to disable PK. No other tower does that, people just flock around the entrance because it is a short, relatively easy tower to take. More people brings.. More people! I think it really just sets the MoD tower apart from the others as the most chaotic of the forts. I guess it really wouldn't hurt, but I'm not the one who uses that area enough to offer adequate input! o.O

twilit 11-12-2012 04:23 AM

MoD USED to be the easiest fort to take. Now snow and york have 50hp... but thats besides the point.

Just because MoD is the most popular fort for PKing does not justify getting kills in the easiest way in shortest amount of time possible. Seriously, 6,000 kills in a day just by lazily sword spamming in one spot? Ive even seen people who are supossed to be defending MoD run outside for kills. Also some guy today pmed me saying he started a noob account wanting to get 100k in less than 400hours... I spent 9months to get 100k and was 30th. Now, only one year later, there are 80-ish people with 100k kills? Seriously ever since the scoreboards were expanded to top100, i have no clue who half these kids are.

blablablah. anyway, make outside MoD nonpk please. It wont fix everything, but it is elimnating the most popular boosting spot.

PKing should be no different from nonstop guild spar, except there are multiple guilds, and youre all alone. If you put no skill or effort into your kills, then whats the point lol?

Winter 11-12-2012 04:43 AM

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Posted by twilit (Post 231759)
MoD USED to be the easiest fort to take. Now snow and york have 50hp... but thats besides the point.

I found that out recently, and I dislike that. o.O

Honestly, the best PK'ers don't always have to have really high numbers on their profiles. The numbers shouldn't really be all that annoying in my opinion. They don't prove anything other than how much time that person spent doing the same thing over and over. Sure they prove experience in the action, but it doesn't really prove too much else.

Whether or not MoD disables PK outside the tower should be irrelevant, but it is nobody's fault that people decided to jump into action before even getting into the fort. I think it's just unlucky. But if it is still a real problem for hardcore PK'ers, I see no problem in testing the rezoning and possibly making the change permanent. :)

twilit 11-12-2012 05:32 AM

Not only are they basically boosting and undermining real pks, but its a nuisance to people trying to get inside. I mean how stupid do you have to be to think that blocking the entrance and sword spamming will get you more kills than any of the other idiots out there? Its still a fort and people try to take it. These people just get in the way.

~>Random Graalian: "LOOK! A wild door just appeared! Im gonna block it and sword spam so no one can get in :D"

O and I forgot, if the outside of MoD were changed to nonPK, there would be no need for the healing orb in the back. I only use it when i come inside because its only possible to get in with .5hp. I remember Rufus said he hates the idea of that healing orb last time he edited MoD's interior. So make the outside nonpk and the orb can just disappear.

GotenGraal 11-12-2012 12:25 PM

Everytime im at mod and when the tower changes guilds as everyone warps outside all the boosters rush to block the door and spam there sword to boost off people as they try to get in.

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Posted by Bubba De Orc (Post 231270)
Df twilit. Now you don't want us players to get 100k pks+ like you? Lets just carry on, and enjoy Graal. MoD is less crowded than before it was when it was placed at the center of Graal.

You shouldn't resort to boosting.

princess becca 11-12-2012 01:35 PM

hey if you really want the outside of mod fort and mod town wy dont you start a riot like the cheese riot!

meganey98 11-12-2012 04:16 PM

I totally agreed with you. I don't go to mod for pk, because if i get killed then outside random pk spammers get another free kill.

Rufus 11-12-2012 04:16 PM

For you Twilit, I will do it.

Rufus 11-12-2012 05:18 PM

GG Twilit.

http://puu.sh/1pr1k

Psycher! 11-12-2012 05:40 PM

This is great. Thank you Rufus.

Blueh 11-12-2012 09:28 PM

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Posted by Rufus (Post 232097)

LMFAO! Butthurt people can't boost.

kush420swagYOLO 11-12-2012 10:15 PM

make the outside of all towers non-pk thats discrimination!

AngelGraal 11-13-2012 12:29 AM

MoD Change
 
Before all I want to thank Twilit and Rufus for making this change possible, some legit pkers are tired of people sword/arrow spamming outside mod getting cheap pks everyday. Like -FadedOne, who got 100k pks in 3 months (clearly all of them outside mod). This just don't prevent cheap pks anymore, because now it's much easier to enter, as twilit said the orb is not necessary anymore. Only cheap pkers will complain about this change. Admins putting amateurs on the right track. good job.

Bubba De Orc 11-13-2012 02:01 AM

Thanks alot twilit for ruining us noobs chances of getting close to 100k. You people just want self superiority. Rufus seriously change this back.

AngelGraal 11-13-2012 02:17 AM

Ruining your 100k pks? Sorry but that is not the only tower that you can pk, there are a lot more. You are just mad because now you cant do your cheap pks as I bet all your pks were outside mod. Go to another tower and stop complaining, amateur.

Bubba De Orc 11-13-2012 02:47 AM

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Posted by AngelGraal (Post 232553)
Ruining your 100k pks? Sorry but that is not the only tower that you can pk, there are a lot more. You are just mad because now you cant do your cheap pks as I bet all your pks were outside mod. Go to another tower and stop complaining, amateur.

Hey smart ass I have 3.5k pks. I don't no life on this game for virtual numbers I just feel its not right that these scum bags already got their pk tons while the lower hierchy people suffer. :)

Santa Claus 11-13-2012 03:20 AM

my pks are from attacking/defending towers. not much but that is like 2years of it.
Plus the non pk zone around mod will just make people ditch mod and go to york or swamp the next best spam sword places

Winter 11-13-2012 03:38 AM

Why should the number matter lol, it's more fair when attacking and defending now.

twilit 11-13-2012 04:44 AM

Thank you Rufus! Thank you very much

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Posted by Blueh (Post 232342)
LMFAO! Butthurt people can't boost.

To those in the screenshot above, YOURE WELCOME! :P
Now if 100,000kills is so important to you, get them FAIRLY like everyone before 2012 did.

Xavier 11-13-2012 04:45 AM

I like this. :)

Pazx 11-13-2012 06:47 AM

Quote:

Posted by princess becca (Post 232012)
hey if you really want the outside of mod fort and mod town wy dont you start a riot like the cheese riot!

Ash?

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Posted by twilit (Post 232602)
get them FAIRLY like everyone before 2012 did.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahaha

iDylan 11-13-2012 07:44 AM

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Posted by AngelGraal (Post 232553)
Ruining your 100k pks? Sorry but that is not the only tower that you can pk, there are a lot more. You are just mad because now you cant do your cheap pks as I bet all your pks were outside mod. Go to another tower and stop complaining, amateur.

+rep zorra

GotenGraal 11-13-2012 03:01 PM

Twilit is the man.

Bubba De Orc 11-13-2012 03:10 PM

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Posted by GotenGraal (Post 232820)
Twilit is the man.

NO. twilit is the fish.:P

GotenGraal 11-13-2012 04:17 PM

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Posted by Bubba De Orc (Post 232821)
NO. twilit is the fish.:P

You're lucky that mod just became non pk and you and the rest of the boosters weren't reset.

AngelGraal 11-13-2012 06:11 PM

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Posted by GotenGraal (Post 232832)
You're lucky that mod just became non pk and you and the rest of the boosters weren't reset.

Goten and iDolan ftw. And keep complaining cheap pkers.

Xenthic 11-13-2012 06:13 PM

I like the idea I did feedback that though round about 6 months ago but the lazy staff usually ignore me anyway >_> I've quit classic now it's gey to be honest, atm playing era and eventually playing Delteria :D

iDylan 11-13-2012 07:01 PM

2010-2011 were the pk days

LiA 11-14-2012 03:59 AM

Yay thank you Twilit for suggesting it, and Rufus for fixing it :)! Now we won't have to worry about double deaths and MoD boosters who gets top pk's for the week on the scoreboard.

Nikita 11-14-2012 11:47 PM

YAY NOW ALL THESE THREADS ABOUT THIS WILL BE GONE :D

Bubba De Orc 11-15-2012 01:41 AM

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Posted by GotenGraal (Post 232832)
You're lucky that mod just became non pk and you and the rest of the boosters weren't reset.

I don't boost

I just don't like how all the people supporting this bogus thread and movement have like "40k+ pks etc" you guys already got your share of the pks outside of MoD and now you don't want new players getting pks so they can catch up to you on the leader board? Cool story

I'm thinking logical. Ik no one will support me and hate. Mostly because of the outrages high amount of pks most daily posters have on this forum

twilit 11-15-2012 04:45 AM

No youre not thinking logical. I never made PKs outside MoD, only inside. In the past this was never a problem. Yes there were large killing crowds outside when MoD changed owners and everyone would be warped, but that cleared out soon enough. But then all these 2012 newbies came along and started spending their whole day outside mod. Disgraceful to people who made their kills fairly. Now stop whining please. You can "catch up" on leader boards the same way everyone else did.

and nice sig

Nikita 11-15-2012 04:48 AM

To be honest I dont pk mod because theres always someone stealing everyone's kills when you get them to 0.5... >_>

twilit 11-15-2012 04:49 AM

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Posted by Nikita (Post 233917)
To be honest I dont pk mod because theres always someone stealing everyone's kills when you get them to 0.5... >_>

:D

HON3Y BADG3R 11-15-2012 06:58 AM

yes yes YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES! YESS!!!!!!

Aaron 11-15-2012 07:05 AM

Ehh, doesn't really matter to me. PKing at Castle and destroying some SoN scrubs is just about all the pleasure I get out of Classic.

GotenGraal 11-15-2012 02:58 PM

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Posted by Bubba De Orc (Post 233728)
I don't boost

I just don't like how all the people supporting this bogus thread and movement have like "40k+ pks etc" you guys already got your share of the pks outside of MoD and now you don't want new players getting pks so they can catch up to you on the leader board? Cool story

I'm thinking logical. Ik no one will support me and hate. Mostly because of the outrages high amount of pks most daily posters have on this forum

I hardly ever pk mod so no, I have not gotten my share of spawn kills outside.

AngelGraal 11-16-2012 10:30 AM

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Posted by Bubba De Orc (Post 233728)
I don't boost

I just don't like how all the people supporting this bogus thread and movement have like "40k+ pks etc" you guys already got your share of the pks outside of MoD and now you don't want new players getting pks so they can catch up to you on the leader board? Cool story

I'm thinking logical. Ik no one will support me and hate. Mostly because of the outrages high amount of pks most daily posters have on this forum

Lol he thinks the only way to get pks is outside mod. Poor amateur, you should check another towers.

iDylan 11-16-2012 03:04 PM

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Posted by Bubba De Orc (Post 233728)
I don't boost

I just don't like how all the people supporting this bogus thread and movement have like "40k+ pks etc" you guys already got your share of the pks outside of MoD and now you don't want new players getting pks so they can catch up to you on the leader board? Cool story

I'm thinking logical. Ik no one will support me and hate. Mostly because of the outrages high amount of pks most daily posters have on this forum

I got most of my pks at sardons and deadwood. 108.000


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