Gang Pictures
 

Hi,

I'd like to address this issue with the gang pictures. People are uploading inappropriate images as their gang picture and asking players to 'rate'.

As you know, this is bad so we delete the gang and punish the leader. However, we need to implement the admin approval on Era.

I'd like to ask you on your opinion on how we can put a positive spin on this- so that it doesn't seem as though it's a bad thing. We are going to implement this change, so not having it isn't an answer.

Apologies for any inconvenience, as we know people do use it for posting their awesome graphics and cute dogs. Anything that will help you get over the change I'm up for (i.e. a free event coin for every gang leader that logs online in the next month)

Please let us know, so we can reward you for adding this change which isn't a benefit to you

Yeah, it's getting kinda sick. This is a game for 13+ yr olds too. Maybe a review system, where staff approve the pic or not before the pic is set.

Maybe you could fix the photos. Like make your own in-game or use a preset. That way, no-one is using photos from their library.

@ review system: thats basicly whats included into the uploading thing besides a 6hours cooldown for players as i noticed it.
i also got the idea of creating the image in-game, yet i dont have an idea how i could add such a drawing tool. would have to mess with some stuff

._. no

i say that we put it into the news that any GP with any porn or that stuff if reported the leader, then the gang is deleted and the player is puniished for 1 day and there rights to making a gang is revoked, also revoke them owning ANY gang (leader of one gang cannot make that player a leader). BUT, add in a bounty of 10,000 graalets for any player who reports and bans the player

This is something I can agree on. The GPs I have seen can get out of hand and I wouldn't mind a review system.

I do however, post pictures of art and other useful things. A cool down time would limit the amount I could use it though. The only problem is how long it would take PRs to review each one that is changed, and could they handle reviewing each GP along with their other duties, such as custom approval, or plain out player monitoring.


I know its a bit off topic, but like the paint option in multiplayer rooms on Pokemon, but perhaps we could have a gang insignia building instead with the same idea in mind.

Here players could use pre-made insignias,designs,backgrounds,color, and text to make their own GP in game, but would still be reviewed for profanity.

no bounty, way too easy to cheat.
and there are a lot of inappropriate images going around which arent announced - we cant check every GP in any other way.

OH I KNOW! why don't we have a admin team just for that or make it a PR job

how about to make it faster make it a random chance, like every 1 out of 10 guild pic changes get sent to review, or make it so all guild pics get sent for review but still show up, or if it has to happen exactly the way stefan wants it, make a quota that staff have to review each week, to ensure they are doing as much as they can

really? there needs to be something that the players can do to help, i would much rather have admins work on "updates" than looking at pictures all freakin day

The ones who develop/generate levels are different from PRs whom would review the GPs

IDEA! how about this, we have a website and you log into the website, once you log into the website you review pictures saying accepted or denied. For every pic reviewed you get 10 graalets.

I compleatly agree Andrew, having players upload pictures of their banana and stuff and asking players to 'rate' is unacceptable. But I do like the idea of a free event coin, maybe the leader of the gang gets one every month if nothing inappropriate is uploaded.

I have a question. Is it possible that once an admin approves your image for GPic, that it is put in a folder server side so if you ever wanted to change it back to that approved image you would not have to wait?

Sorta like customs. Once approved you have it in your inventory. Can the same thing be applied here?

I don't really fully understand what your saying but I got the hint, I thought maybe their could be like a creative room with a creative board and it has the players user and you can upload gfx (bypass a admin) and then people can search your name etc idk I would like that but there's gonna be a massive floor that I'm too blind to see I just know it xD

Just add a white list for the people you know won't be idiots.

I really like this idea, maybe a room where players could upload their personal graphics (bypass staff) and other players could rate them.

I didn't read everything so I don't know if it this was mentioned before- but why not just implement this for a select amount of people only? (players who have been putting inappropriate stuff on their gang pictures wíll get this system, and people who are proven to be trustworthy by staff will not get it) This will only affect the small amount of players who would otherwise handicap the other, way larger amount of "good" players.

Apparently, the admins actually have lives, and are too busy basing than to actually do stuff. So, maybe there could be specific staff that can approve gang pictures. (similar to the way staff approve custom bodies/heads) There would also be a limit on how many times you can change your gang picture a day to prevent spam.

The point is this: most of the staff is to lazy to do anything but base and drag people. Hire some mature people, or dont give them tools to goof around with so they can actually do their work.

I don't like the free EC a month for owning a gang, but I like callimucs idea where we can draw our own gang picture

You should hire upload reviewers now lol

I'm actually not sarcastic.

I don't think it is as big of a problem as people thought it would be. On Classic the pictures are approved within a few seconds of them being received. There isn't nearly as many uploads as I thought there would be either. It's essentially no change for the players, besides only being allowed to upload one picture every 30 minutes. Even if you're showing off your art, it's really not that long of a wait.

I personally don't like it because sometimes pictures don't work for my gang picture as well as others, so I just change it. With the 30 minute limit, I have to wait. I think the whole thing is rubbish. Not a lot of people post inappropriate content in their picture.

I think instead, there should be a warning system. On the gang page, there will be an inappropriate content button and a staff member will have to remove the picture if it is bad. This is a better system in my opinion.

If the uploads rate stays as low as it is I can't see a problem with reducing the time limits on it. The system is going to exist whether we like it or not.

i agree for the ec for each leader :O
i would like to see a drawing system with custom pallette to create our own GuildPictures so players could express themself on it.
i also agree with the point ' The Doctor ' said about the picture not working , it's a pain to wait 30min for that to be fixed

Make it like classic and let it lie. Waiting 30 mins for something you barely look at is good enough. It's a gang logo pic, not a GFX display. Stop making special terms for those.

I use my guild pictures for like art, cool news, etc. ._.

50 EC plox. x-x

pfft if we hire gang pic reviewers, we're going to need parent permission slips for you kiddies who are not 18+

I like what jester said, how you have a gang picture inventory.
I also like what classic does, having it reviewed and a cool-down time.
I don't like the Ec for the gang leader. People could abuse this, how, idk.
I like the in-game drawing of gang pictures, only there will be some immature people drawing inappropriate things, so maybe have a review system for this too.

Or, just simply remove the gang picture system, seeing as people are generally very stupid in the majority and minority. Anyway you go, there are still going to be immature people who find creative ways to be inappropriate. And I know, I know. This idea could create riots and stuff short term, but lasting effects could be a cleaner, more mature era for everyone.

We have Player Relations staff under 18.

You should add a report system or something, I dunno. Approving it might take a lot of time and people will get antsy.

4chan's raid on trollscience.com
Or in other word, still too easy to cheat.

How about you set up something like this:
Level 1: The populous that follows the rules of Graal Gpics checked about once every month.
Level 2: The some people who mostly follow the rules but had a couple screw-ups once every 3 weeks
Level 3:people spend half their time on Graal banned. Once every week
Level 4: people with a history of uploading inappropriate and/or have many offenses against Graal, 3 times a week
Level 5: People who if all of their actions were totaled up, they would be banned for over a year. 4 times a week.

It's not a bad thing. I never understood why this wasn't done in the first place. Honestly.. you're trusting teenagers to abide by a moral code... Yeah. Good luck with that!

Yeah, IMO - I think the ''ec'' idea is good. Since some are new to the game, I think that they'd find it tempting (the idea of an ec if nothing inappropriate is uploaded) and that will keep them out of trouble. Every month or two I think.

I didn't read all posts so I'm sorry if someone else has posted this already:
You can enter an url as gangpic and you are not allowed to enter sites like google images or sites with pornographic content?

Edit:
And/or put a limit on the amount of colors used in the gangpic.

****. I knew this was going to happen, time to quit, waiting for approval of gpics are just going to screw up this game

Looking at your logs, you don't update very often. lol?


Anyway- I think an achievement would be good, like "Upload a gang picture"; also incentive to own a gang too. I also like the idea of custom made ones- we'll see what we can do :D

thanks xx

Yea but when i do i like changing it alot, being able to show friends things i made etc, i tested it on classic and it sucked, i stuffed up a gpic and had to wait 30 mins to change it after waiting like 5 mins for it to be accepted

It just seems completely annoying to have to wait for a picture, then wait 30 minutes to change it back, this and talking to friends it the only reason i personally still go on era

Especially for the reason someone else posted, like stuffing up a picture and having to wait to change, since the gang picture loading gets really frustrating sometimes, often not zooming in all the way forcing you to try to zoom in and then quickly tap done to get it to save

Not to mention a hassle on the staff of having to check that aswell, its all fine when its new but like customs after a while they get bored of doing it.

What about making the gangpic upload up to 3 pictures so it changes every 5 mins and shows another photo. I would prefer putting customs/gang signs.

Maybe a new page where all the gang pics are shown (like in itunes where you see all the album covers). And another page that shows the latest gang pictures that were changed.

there should be a gang pics competition, to see what is the best every week! and the leader would get a 1-5 star rating + an ec.

I don't like the idea of EC being earned automatically. They're EVENT coins and should be treated so, not just a handy reward for good players.

Agree with you Lavaclaw

Another idea. You can change view the gang pick before it's sent to admins and change it in case you've made a mistake. It'll be sent after 5 minutes of loading a picture. Problem soved :)

no because there is still that slight moment where you can still show off for 5 minutes

Mine is just a beautiful picture of lightening which will never be changed, oh id hate to be staff right now, with "CHECK CUSTOM UPLOADS PLZ ADIAM O AND MY GP!1!"

I've been away for 3 days and this happens? :( Damn.

Giving the gang leaders a EC could cause everyone to make their own gang. I do not agree with this idea, it could take a lot of time waiting for approval.

this also would result in ez ec hoarding

I think the gang pics should be put on first, but it goes into a file that gets to be reviewed by staff. The thing is the gang can be active till it is reviewed as bad and it is deleted.

I'd love that. But you'd have the same problem. Idiots posting inappropriate stuff.