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Kenny* 11-14-2012 07:54 PM

Morano Thompson
 
Has the tommy gun took a nerf or is the server glitching as when i shoot it it shoots 2 bullets auto then stops. Is it a glitch or the worst nerf ever.

BabyGhost 11-14-2012 08:30 PM

It wasn't just Morano Thompson. All guns that are auto fire have a weird 2 burst shot glitch. Not sure if it was intentional but the auto fire is really messed up now.

General_s2 11-14-2012 08:45 PM

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Posted by BabyGhost (Post 233524)
It wasn't just Morano Thompson. All guns that are auto fire have a weird 2 burst shot glitch. Not sure if it was intentional but the auto fire is really messed up now.

That sucks.

RedBoy786* 11-14-2012 09:09 PM

Meph how could you :(

lol jk, ermmm, I'm sure theirs a logical explanation behind this. Meph wouldn't just do this to troll us...

[Knight]$torm 11-14-2012 10:15 PM

I hope it's a glitch only if not then It got nerfed and peoples Will cry to get a refund

lustful 11-14-2012 10:22 PM

^ Agreed.

If it isn't a glitch, be prepared for some serious QQ'ing, Meph.

Ventus277 11-14-2012 10:50 PM

Agreed, if its a nerf then it needs to be cut back a bit most expensive gun in the game, no where near represents automatic, and controls are mostly unresponsive.

Fix or refund.

lustful 11-14-2012 11:02 PM

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Posted by Ventus277 (Post 233605)
Agreed, if its a nerf then it needs to be cut back a bit most expensive gun in the game, no where near represents automatic, and controls are mostly unresponsive.

Fix or refund.

Thompson isn't the most expensive, BAR is.

Well, it really is the Gas Gun - but that's EC.

Ventus277 11-14-2012 11:15 PM

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Posted by lustful (Post 233613)
Thompson isn't the most expensive, BAR is.

Well, it really is the Gas Gun - but that's EC.

It is effecting all weapons that are automatic my Bar, m16, and my lovely ak.

lustful 11-14-2012 11:18 PM

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Posted by Ventus277 (Post 233622)
It is effecting all weapons that are automatic my Bar, m16, and my lovely ak.

''People be hating - so much hate I need an AK''

islander13 11-15-2012 01:22 AM

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Posted by Ventus277 (Post 233605)
Fix or refund.


BootySlayer 11-15-2012 02:04 AM

"Fix or refund" is nothing but a dream. They've gotten away with nerfing every other damn gun, why stop there?

Infernus Lapse 11-15-2012 02:07 AM

Meph, seriously. Your worse than cloyd right now. If your going to do 3 shot burst, remove freeze and crap like hat so its at least balanced. Worst guns update in era history.

islander13 11-15-2012 02:32 AM

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Posted by BootySlayer (Post 233758)
"Fix or refund" is nothing but a dream. They've gotten away with nerfing every other damn gun, why stop there?

Isn't this litigious since players, including myself, pay for gralats and end up getting something other than what we payed for?

Shock 11-15-2012 02:33 AM

Something's wrong. This hasn't been done on purpose. Relax and wait.

Jester Lapse 11-15-2012 02:48 AM

I love how everyone is automatically blaming Meph for this without even knowing what actually happened. I suggest stop pointing fingers before you look like idiots if it's not him.

Meph has done great so far and just because of this I will not give up faith in him. You all have been saying how nice it is that a staff member is listening to our opinions and you quickly turn on him. This is most likely why staff never use these forums anymore is because you guys are quick to play the blame game with no facts. Kindly use skill or play a different game if this has you so upset and wait until facts are given before cursing at someone and saying they suck, when they spend hours of their personal life trying to make the game better.

BootySlayer 11-15-2012 02:53 AM

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Posted by islander13 (Post 233796)
Isn't this litigious since players, including myself, pay for gralats and end up getting something other than what we payed for?

My opinion on this hasnt changed since they messed up my Shipka. It's FRAUD. Then, now and always. Doesn't stop them from doing it and getting away with it.

Jester Lapse 11-15-2012 02:54 AM

I dare you all to sue Graal. See where the fraud claim gets ya.

Infernus Lapse 11-15-2012 03:07 AM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 233819)
I dare you all to sue Graal. See where the fraud claim gets ya.

If someones BAR, or any gun costing over $20 in US Dollars got nerfed, which it did, US law states it is legal to sue over this in civil court. Although graals based in the UK.

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 233805)
I love how everyone is automatically blaming Meph for this without even knowing what actually happened. I suggest stop pointing fingers before you look like idiots if it's not him.

Meph has done great so far and just because of this I will not give up faith in him. You all have been saying how nice it is that a staff member is listening to our opinions and you quickly turn on him. This is most likely why staff never use these forums anymore is because you guys are quick to play the blame game with no facts. Kindly use skill or play a different game if this has you so upset and wait until facts are given before cursing at someone and saying they suck, when they spend hours of their personal life trying to make the game better.

And we still have faith, its just that Guns are Mephs responsibility, and if he isnt responding, the players will make an assumption like this. Meph has to have a valid comment to stop the raging.

Jester Lapse 11-15-2012 03:16 AM

Meph has a life. Meph has a wife. He can't tend to you people 24/7 like you seem you are entitled to. If I were him, I honestly wouldn't even comment with you people bashing on him for really no reason.

You all are thinking inside the box. Ever think outside? Benifits? No more spammers while sparring, no more people that sit and afk pk. Basing is now skill, not BAR spam. And the funny thing is, a lot of people "raging" ( I consider this bitching without a cause) are the same ones who complain BAR and other spam guns are too OP

BboyEatsbacon 11-15-2012 03:17 AM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 233805)
I love how everyone is automatically blaming Meph for this without even knowing what actually happened. I suggest stop pointing fingers before you look like idiots if it's not him.

YOU MEAN SOMEONE ELSE HAS ACCESS TO THE CLASS WEAPONGUN AND BUGS CAN OCCUR?

omg wtf no one likes u

gtfo fegit

srsly fegit

Higbey 11-15-2012 03:21 AM

a final rule needs to be implemented THAT BOUGHT ITEMS CANNOT BE CHANGED.

its immoral, its scamming your players, its unfair, and it simply shouldnt be done.

how about you make a good weapon system like I did, beforehand, so with my weapon system, players dont pay for something that ends up not being what it was when they bought it. you dont go and buy a ferrari and walk into your garage in a week and find its been replaced by the car dealership with a jeep.

look at the history, not only have prices changed, but the firing rate, freeze, spread, what the weapons can and cannot be used in, the guns admins never balanced any of it, despite the fact they let other staff run around and "test" the weapons, some of which never end up coming out because they were never balanced and they never devoted the time to balancing the whole system at once.

perhaps if you actually did your job right like i did, you wouldnt have these problems that need fixing.


real money has been payed for the items, that were bought on the premise the gun would be the way it was released, if you change a weapon, you need to refund that weapon, or remove that weapon from sale and sell a new version of it.

they did not do this, they broke one of the sacred rules of videogames. in a game like this, with this system, nerfing and trying to "balance" single weapons at a time, that have already been released, its just not going to work. its not right, i know that, thats why i designed my weapons system all set up and balanced, so ill never do that to players.

how many years of experience do i have? hardly any, never even been on rc myself, as i never owned gold, yet by knowing videogames, knowing how to make things fair, knowing stats, knowing to prepare, i was able to set up a great unique fair customizable weapons system.

it wasnt that hard for me to do, now explain how a iphone server with the playerbase it has is in the right to fail so miserably to do that correctly.

it isnt right, and until you get refunds for the weapons, keep fighting, give snk and meph a piece of your mind, they will learn eventually when they have a community filled with hate towards their actions.

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Posted by BboyEatsbacon (Post 233833)
YOU MEAN SOMEONE ELSE HAS ACCESS TO THE CLASS WEAPONGUN AND BUGS CAN OCCUR?

omg wtf no one likes u

gtfo fegit

srsly fegit

meph is the guns admin, its under his jurisdiction, and its also under snks as the manager, if its a bug, its pretty bad that such a big "bug" has not yet been addressed by them, let alone fixed.

Jester Lapse 11-15-2012 03:21 AM

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Posted by BboyEatsbacon (Post 233833)
YOU MEAN SOMEONE ELSE HAS ACCESS TO THE CLASS WEAPONGUN AND BUGS CAN OCCUR?

omg wtf no one likes u

gtfo fegit

srsly fegit

snk does, kai now go sit in corner
http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...thinkicare.png

BboyEatsbacon 11-15-2012 03:21 AM

Higbey,
I believe this is for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUFT35S7Jb4

Higbey 11-15-2012 03:25 AM

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Posted by BboyEatsbacon (Post 233839)
Higbey,
I believe this is for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUFT35S7Jb4

here is a one for you

http://youtu.be/exdK7Lirngg

moonshine 11-15-2012 03:39 AM

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Posted by Revoke (Post 233844)
My morano i use all the time hasn't experienced this one time at all

Oh crap just went on its friking 2 shots not even 3 rounds i payed 80000 for a crappy rippoff of a m4 thats worse? refund or put it back

Shock 11-15-2012 04:23 AM

I agree with Jester. Don't blame Meph without having the full story. He's probably not answering due to fixing the problem or he doesn't know about it yet.

Higbey 11-15-2012 04:26 AM

If he isn't the only one other than the higher ups with access to the gun files, why can't one of them fix it? Plus why would people other than the gun admins and the upper staff have access to it?

Ghettoicedtea 11-15-2012 04:30 AM

Anyone should have accsess to those stats but only gun admin and manager change them.

BboyEatsbacon 11-15-2012 04:54 AM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 233882)
If he isn't the only one other than the higher ups with access to the gun files, why can't one of them fix it? Plus why would people other than the gun admins and the upper staff have access to it?

Only the higher ups do have access to the stats, I was just saying it's not like only Meph could have changed them.

Jester Lapse 11-15-2012 05:30 AM

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Kai stop bitching at Meph now

BootySlayer 11-15-2012 06:03 AM

In the real world a company who rips off customers gets shut down. End of story. Just sayin.

Jester Lapse 11-15-2012 06:05 AM

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Posted by BootySlayer (Post 233955)
In the real world a company who rips off customers gets shut down. End of story. Just sayin.

When you shoot people, ride rocket eggs, pick flowers for money and rip off your head and put on another for enjoyment, then come back with your real life comparisons.

BootySlayer 11-15-2012 06:17 AM

Sigh. Childish comparisons aside, graal era is a game made by a company that operates for profit. Real world businesses who operate the way they do don't stay in business long. In this case, the customers are simply to naive and immature to realize it.

Jester Lapse 11-15-2012 06:18 AM

yet YOU yourself are still playing. Doesn't that put you in the same catagory? 0.0

BootySlayer 11-15-2012 06:25 AM

Well considering I didn't bash Meph and I haven't paid any real money to play in about a year, I'd consider myself to be in a category all my own. Just because I play the same game as children doesn't make me one.

Jester Lapse 11-15-2012 06:27 AM

well you bashed era in its entirety with the whole shut down company blah blah. Same catagory as Higbey perhaps?

BootySlayer 11-15-2012 06:35 AM

I don't consider disagreeing with policy to be bashing but whatever. You're arguing just to argue. The gun admin, whether he or anyone else likes it or not, is ultimately responsible for gun problems including but not limited to dissatisfied customers and their complaints.

Jester Lapse 11-15-2012 06:35 AM

where does it say that in the rule book? I must have overlooked it

BootySlayer 11-15-2012 06:40 AM

Ask his boss

Cloyd 11-20-2012 09:54 PM

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Posted by Infernus Lapse (Post 233764)
Meph, seriously. Your worse than cloyd right now. If your going to do 3 shot burst, remove freeze and crap like hat so its at least balanced. Worst guns update in era history.

u mad bro?

AxeLux 11-20-2012 10:56 PM

Infernus, there is reasons why cloyd left the guns as they where, so many players complaning on how " Too much Spam " or " Extremly high fire rate " was used to win, he notched the guns with a portion of freeze, so the spar can be fair. . .
i.e If BlasterX was currently Guns Admin of iEra, guns would have an abundance of freeze.

iRiley 11-20-2012 11:12 PM

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Posted by Cloyd (Post 237346)
u mad bro?

old noob alert

Cloyd 11-21-2012 12:20 AM

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Posted by iRiley (Post 237394)
old noob alert

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Posted by Cloyd (Post 237346)
u mad bro?


iRiley 11-21-2012 12:30 AM

old noob at spar

Sup3rn00b 11-21-2012 01:08 AM

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Posted by iRiley (Post 237420)
old noob at spar

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Posted by Cloyd (Post 237346)
u mad bro?


Jester Lapse 11-21-2012 01:20 AM

That got old quick

iRiley 11-21-2012 01:49 AM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 237453)
That got old quick

4899 please.

Meph 11-21-2012 02:53 AM

This is a bug that I was under the impression was fixed- evidently it's not because I logged on to be spammed by people asking why I nerfed their BAR/PBP/Famas.

None of these guns have been touched, and their functionality will be reverted exactly the way they were.

I'll let Snk know things are still acting funky and use this thread as reference.
I thank you for pointing this out.

Again, sorry for the inconvenience, and this past week's inactivity.
I'm not sure if many of you are aware, but I work in a Bakery, and Thanksgiving is one of the busiest weeks of the year.

In addition, I've had essays due with school, and been working on a new gun for Thanksgiving, so my 'Graal time' has been spent in paint or Graal Shop.

Hopefully this is remedied sooner than later-- Morano Thompson's one of my personal favorites.

snk 11-21-2012 07:13 AM

I just checked the code from the dev server which is exactly the same o-O

EDIT - I added something in the item system a few weeks back to stop the reload glitch. I have a check of 0.5 which I've reduced to 0.25 - give that a go?


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