Tower Guilds are pissing me off.
 

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Now we all know C4C they reached 1k,got their hat,changed leaders,kicked everyone from their guild and are now starting a new hat chasing guild called Wrath! Not the hat chasing but kicking all your loyal members is total bull****. /rant

o:? Half of call4combat+other friends pig and I have made are going for futur3 10k soon. Why should this concern you? Even if they are hat chasers as long as they put in the work and effort why not let them get the hat.

That was a short rant. Also, welcome back. Again.
Honestly, the hat chasing is kind of stupid. If they weren't hat chasing and took towers for fun, they would've just kept going with the same guild. But I guess it's much more invigorating and meaningful to spend 42 days of your life to get a worthless virtual hat.

Who cares? Let them waste their lives away.

Its sort of the same mentality that people have with achievements (like with xbox live) in other video games, say grinding something like hell until you get a little virtual trophy. Was it fun to get it? No. Was it frustrating and a big waste of your life? Yes. But you got it! So that somehow means something for some reason. I guess its just an ego thing.

Quit Classic, PC is where it's at.

I think 1k hats should just be removed. Let's see who keeps going after we remove them for some time.

Great idea! Full support.

1k hats should be removed. or make it so its only one same hat,

There was originally talk (a long time ago before hat chasing guilds truly existed/were big today) about stopping the release of hats after 20 guilds gotten the hat. I would've personally would've loved to see that happen, and if there was a vouch for that I would support it. Because I feel that the first guilds to get hats were just in it for the fun. I can't speak for all guilds, but I can speak for my own since for Helsing we went for 1k as like a guild family effort. It was fun, we enjoyed ourselves and whatnot. From other guilds I've heard from it was for similar reasons. Nowadays if you ask a guild holding a fort why they're doing it just for the hat. Which seems silly because now its just a rinse and repeat process. It doesn't even seem like them themselves are having much fun as we did or as other guilds to reach 1k in the past has. Now it's just Start Guild -> Recruit Members -> Take Towers > Reach 1K -> Get hat -> Repeat. And this makes it harder for people who want to actually take towers just to take towers because all their friends are out looking for guilds nearing 1k to mooch off of. So it not only affects the hat chasing guilds, but other guilds as well. I was really hoping that they would've started giving out the generic 1k item instead of the hat now because it's at a point where it's just ridiculous.

Before PULSE got 1k was when towering was actually fun. Cause back then there were no noob hathunting guilds. I swear a week after PULSE got 1k and their hat there was 10 new guilds saying they were going for 1k and a hat.

you know what's more make me mad than that? We reached 1k a week before C4C and they got their 1k hat first, but we are still waiting. I mean I can understand as long as it does not take over 6months or something.. ._.
And pig party is very kind person. He gave 1k hats to people who worked very hard and probably kicked them after they received 1k hat.

The devaluation of guilds into a form of 'custom hat uploading' is sad.

This has gone too far. Time to say goodbye to the custom guild hat rewards.

The staff have already tried to stop the hats before and that didn't stay for very long. I can't see it happening again unless there is a suitable replacement.

Why did we bring them back? Most people I knew supported the rid of 1k hats

Because they didn't have any idea of what the generic item was going to be, but put it in news anyway..

This is what I hate, that players are allowed to ruin the game, riot, and all this other bull**** and staff obey or sympathize and reward them. Staff needs to stop listening to everything players say.

you are the god damn staff... you can put an end to it, i think i of all people have proven no matter what, players really dont have any power to stop anything at all. blatantly hosting events nearby protests actually worked on some of the Neanderthals for Galens sake.

little kiddies will keep wasting their parents credit cards on hats and other crap, boycotts wont work, there is nothing they can do, especially in this case where the "popular" players support putting an end to guild hats and stopping hat monkey guilds

It's not the staff that undo decisions or collapse to players over things like this. I hate it too.

Yeah it's a shame that 'him upstairs' is really incontrol of everything.

I wouldn't call us popular...
But when staff put an END to it (hat chasing), isn't it the staffs job to LISTEN to the players? So if they take the 1k reward away and people complain we'll have to somehow comprise.

You should only be able to get one 1k Hat. This would solve all problems. End of story.

Nothing will change hat chasers will be hat chasers after getting 1k and realizing they get no more hats for towering more they'll "retire."

I dunno... There are some people on this forum that the average player would pass out if they talked to.

Your response makes no sense. If they only get one hat, how will they continue to be hat chasers?

What about a little mod tower trophy that you can hold up like a Gani for a generic item? I'd say to at least have the first 30 guilds currently on the leader board to keep their hats as a token of actually earning it when actually meant something. Then the other guilds who reached 1k could have their hat replaced with the trophy. The 30 guilds would not get the trophy (unless they were apart of another guild that reached 1k but isn't a part of the top 30), and if they wanted to get one they would have to either go for 1k on another guild or 5k on their own. The guilds who recieved the trophy would have to reach 5k to earn their hats again. I know already a whole lot of people would absolutely hate and rage at this but something really needs to be done. But with that I believe there should also be future revisions to towers in general so that it would be more fun for everyone. Like, adding ghosts to Deadwood to serve as a protection (or offense). Baddy NPCs attacking the castle, slimes hip-hopping around and whatnot. Maybe even go so far to make useable cannons for Yorkton? That'd be really fun.

Well lets see...
Lets say we have a guild called John.

John gets 1k hours and recieves a hat WOOP WOOP!

John influences a new generation of hat chasers and a new guild called Jerry arises.

Jerry gets 1k hours and recieves a hat WOOP WOOP!

Jerry influences a new generation of hat chasers and a new guild called Bob arises.

3 hat chasing guilds later...

Liz GETS 1K HOURS RECIEVES A HAT WOOP WOOP!

THE HAT REPRODUCTION SYSTEM!

This makes no sense.

Or what we could do is make a small guild, recruit a few high statted players. Sell the guild for a large amount of money. Buy it back, for the same price + a little more. Advertise your high price guild so people would join. Steal from hat chasers. Make shady deals involving buying out the dead hat chasing guilds. Revive them. Use the, at your disposal. Put only trust worthy people in charge of them, loyal to an order you've established. Even get staff to join your order. Have those who defect or oppose silenced with planted evidence. Continue to branch out your secrecy into other secrets. Start cliches in guilds using your people that would eventually cause "drama" and ruin them. All while running a multifarm system that keeps you and your allies rich, and those beneath you silent so long as they maintain their part. Don't forget to wage wars with guilds you already control on one another and to have everyone swear into secrecy.

Good plan, no? :D or we could just get rid of hat chasers the boring way >.< Graal conspiracy sounds much more fun.

How about limiting how a hat looks like? Most people hat chase to get a hat that actually looks cool. How about making the 1k hat a small mask limiting how big it can be, 5k hat which can be a medium sized hat limiting as well, 10k hat as big as the hat can be made. If you don't like how big the dimensions it should be then why even take towers if you aren't going to enjoy as a fun activity then a reward. If my idea seems stupid then I would rather have 1k removed.

I think Bin means a player can only recieve one 1k hat and nomore...

Meaning if BOB(made up guild) got 1k there players recieve the 1k hat... then if they all went to another guild to get 1k when they got 1k they wouldn't be allowed another hat because they have recieved a 1k hat already even that it was another guild...So basicly it will stop guilds getting 1k moving to another guild and getting 1k again.

P.s.
I don't really agree with this idea, but I agree that 1k hats should be scrapped they should of been scrapped after the first like 20guilds got 1k.

I'm also for no more guild hats. It was bad before but now its ridiculous. Click any guild news on the map it'll probably be about a hat or mount.

How will staff keep track of the people who have gotten hats???

I was always into towers for the fun of it. reason i stayed in Cruxis and tried to keep it going. Sad how people only see them for a bad reason of getting a hat from it. Removes the real reason to make a guild for towers. The fun you had of keeping towers or the family you made. Now it is join now for the hat and after it all i will forget you and not care on what you did since i just added another hat to my graal account wooo number 24.

I am glad that vlad stopped this hat monkey **** as well as lanky but i am sure if lanky had more time he would of done it again and agian same with vlad but he quit because the classic server was to hard for him.

What I'm trying to say is people are only in it for the hat and that you can't stop that.

you can with that idea and you can keep track with it by looking at the item file or have the players pc# on a list

I just really hate how people value their pixels over their friends. It truly disgusts me. Right down to the core. Sure it's a game, but you're talking about real people here not bots. People (if they can even be called that) who chase hats at the end of the day will have hats, but not friends.

You know what annoys me? The same threads in "New Posts."

Sounds like a big waste of time to me can't everyone just get a trophy (like the gst ones) and thats it??

Either hats as rewards gotta go, or change the way hats are given out. If players can keep making new guilds to get 1k hours, then why would they want to go to 5k to get the next guild hat?

Very easy. A flag on the account. A comment on the account. It is extremely easy to track things like this on Graal.

And when those players get angry what do you propose we do?

What players? Hat chasers? **** em.

You were a hat chaser at once.

Give all the guilds past #30 on the leader boards a little fort trophy as a generic item while swapping them for the hat and have them go for 5k for a hat with a 25 player hat limit.

I have one 1k hat from Voyage. Going for a 1k does not make you a hat chaser. A hat chaser is a person who starts a guild, takes it to 1k, disbands the guild, starts another one, takes it to 1k, etc.

How about get rid of giving out 1k hats and just keep 5k hat and 10k mount.

No mount for 10k. No 5k or 1k reward.
10k for a hat of your choice.

A. Change the guild hat mark to 2000 or 3000hours.

or

B. Give a 6month advance notice before getting rid of guild hats.