Stroseria Closing
 

I'm sure it doesn't really matter to you a whole lot, but we have come to a consensus and are shutting down the server. We've been working on it since July 2011 and have some cool stuff done, but, times are changing. The staff who are the life of the server are starting to grow up; quite frankly, it's hard to motivate people who have a billion other things going on in their life.

The main issue we're facing is that Stefan's policies aren't too popular around our server. We planned and developed our server from an iOS standpoint, and it's become extremely obvious that it just isn't going to happen. It was supposed the be the MMORPG for Graal iOS, but with Zodiac to compete with on PC and Delteria and Zodiac now on iOS, it's foolish. I guess it's somewhat understandable for Stefan to ignore us and put us at the bottom of his priority list, but several staff have put thousands of hours of man-power into the server so the whole thing seems a little ridiculous. Even though I may not be the biggest supporter of Thor, what Stefan did to him really got to me. What's the point of developing a server when all we have to look forward to in the future is either Tigairius removing us and trying to take over or Stefan trying to take over our server and use our content in a way we never wanted?

That being said, we'd like to offer the biggest kudos ever to those of you who are working to keep this game going. I remember Dusty once making a thread called "Your welcome, Eurocenter" and Stefan completely avoiding the topic and closing it. But to all the developers, the people working hard on iClassic, iEra, Graal the Adventure, Delteria, Zone, and every other server on Graal, who have stuck with Graal and made it what it is: I offer my greatest and most sincere thanks. You guys have changed the lives of thousands of people by doing what you do, and I just want you all to know how grateful I am and how grateful the other staff on Stroseria are. Thank you very much for all that you've done for this game, and we really can't wait to see what you have to offer to us in the future.

I'd like to take this opportunity to commend my staff team. They're truly the best people I've ever worked with in my life; I don't want you guys to think that this server's shutting-down is because of any of them. Specifically I'd like to give my thanks to Aya for always working her absolute best to benefit the server. She's probably one of the most hardworking and insightful people I've ever met on this game. Thanks also to the community for supporting us.

For all the work that went to waste, we're exploring other options for it. We want to have it see the light of day, so we might try to work something out with Stroseria or just find something else who is capable and willing to continue it. Seeing "Stroseria" release, though, is probably never going to happen, and I will almost certainly not be a part of it. We may just release the content in a .zip on the main forums and leave it for the vultures to consume; but I'm not worried about that at the moment.

This is getting too long, but I feel like I've been here too long not to say something.

Edit: I don't really know how else I can emphasize this, but I really do appreciate with all my heart the efforts you guys are going to to improve this game. Thank you so, so much.

It's a sad day.
Stroseria inspired me to continue my work in the field of graal animation.
Matt was one of the most inspiring individuals I have ever met.
I know this is pathetic, but I'm holding my tears.

:shock: Well I never saw that coming...

This is not the end of Stroseria. One does not simply put hours of hard and good work for it to go to waste.

wow, unexpected.
Well it is a shame that everyone's hard work will go to waste in some extent like that. I would think it better to just take a break not give up on the project all together. I mean how many times has iZone died and finally it is almost done? Compitition should be pushing you. but it is your choice, cheers stroseria

well, ive already downloaded and saved the storyline google doc, so thats safe for if there comes a time to use it.... i had no idea this was happening, and thought everything was going great....

really dont think we should just give up, if necessary find someone else willing to fund a server for the content, we have a lot of stuff, i know it will take a while before it could reach ios, theres nothing we can do about that, thats stefan and unixmads fault....err plans, to release izone first then having to wait and then releasing delteria, then finally getting onto if strosteria will make it to ios... personally i think they should let us all get prepared and have us release when we are ready, just not in the same weeks.

this sucks :[

Why not halt the project?

Why not try and port to Java?

Why not try and port to C++?

???

we shouldnt just give up, we can keep fighting, keep pressing on..

graal has enough failed quitted servers, strosteria shouldnt become another just like that, it was a major contender for becoming a ios server after delteria

This is really sad to hear, Stroseria had one of the best staff teams out there, and just having the privilege to work with everyone who was or is on the staff team is amazing. Stroseria really improved me throughout my leveling career. I wish the best to everyone affiliated with the server, Imprint, Aya, Johan, GreenGaw, Storm, Tyler, Lettro, Sylvia, Dimento, Entrok, Kiwi, and many more. But most importantly, Matt. You really guided me. Thanks for everything, good work everyone and continue on the road ahead! Higbey is right, lets not give up, Stroseria is one of the best servers out, and all our hard work shouldn't go to waste.

Shame.

come on guys, we cant let all this work die, we need to keep going,

Higgs you're inspiring.
Few times you aren't the negative nancy. <3

Who's in on keeping Stroseria alive?

we still have plenty of time to go, stefan wants izone out first, then delteria, if we keep going, we are next, we will be able to just hibernate, perhaps by then a new breed of staff, the next generation, will take up the server when the time comes, perhaps we will stay till the day when delteria is released and be able to perpare strosteria for the ios,

we have the content, i for one have plenty of storyline and plans, creative ideas, and plenty of things that we can work on till then, we can be a full platter of a story for players to jump into when it hits ios.

no matter how i feel about stefan, ive never thought of him as a complete idiot, i know he is smart enough to see a good opportunity and take it, he wouldnt deny our server from becoming ios.


we need to keep fighting for it, keep going, call off the closing, we have the staff, and i know im not going to leave this community for a long time, this is for the players, lets build a great server, even if we are not around for the day when it is released for players to see..

if you need me on the team i would be happy to help! dont let your work go to waste.

I have never agreed with Higbey more.
I have improved and I could create levels when needed.
We got 3 committers now.

¡VIVA LA STROSERIA!

I want to keep Stroseria living. I'd still keep my full commitment towards making sound effects.

Sad to hear it. Reminds me of how Nerv ended up

Nerv was always a fun project. I have it on my computer and I talked to Entrok and Johan about restarting it sometime. It actually got a decent playercount and wasn't staff only so I liked it a lot :P Might try to start it up again but nothing nearly as serious as Stroseria.

You essentially have to make your own "Graal" (Engine, servers, sprites) which requires a much greater requirement of skill, knowledge and is equally as time consuming.

It should be important to note that this isn't just applicable to Graal servers. As much as we'd like to see projects succeed in general it takes a significant amount of planning, ambition, and commitment to actually follow through and complete them.

Graal also has other significant issues with it's business model that make it more of a stepping-stone than a platform you want to commit to, especially if you don't have ties/relations to management at the top.

We can't let it die

#wecantletitdie

Another one bites the dust...

I remember going on that...you dragged me across the map 500 times -.-

It's sad to see the server go. I had a fun time on there and the staff were really nice and just really great people. I got to try something new with graphics and improve more. Again, I'm really sorry to see it go.

Why would you shutdown a server, it took probably forever to make. And you just deleted it in one click I'm assuming..plus you paid for the server right? Well I really liked Stroseria, but if it's going to be shutdown, or already has been I guess that's goodbye to a great server..

its not goneeeeee

we cant let it be shut down.

Stroseria was the first server I worked on and developed graphics for and as such, it will always hold a great deal of sentimental value to me. The staff team was always a pleasure to work with even when dealing with issues which weren't the easiest to find a solution for. My fondest memories of developing consist of creating some of my best graphical work to be used on the server. Words can't express how much it pains me that a lot of this content will not be used for "Stroseria". However as Mattkan said, we will try to find other options for its use.

Finally, I'd like to personally thank the developers and community for their support and dedication to Stroseria/Graal in general. Many times I've found myself discouraged from remaining loyal to Stroseria and offered other positions on great servers that are probably more recognized than our humble Stroseria. This made me realize how difficult it is for developers to keep their loyalty to one server for a long period of time and how little appreciation they receive in return for their countless hours of work.
My advice to the community is to be more respectful towards developers who work very hard to satisfy its playerbase.
A simple "Thank you" is more than enough and always a nice thing to do.

That's all I have to say about the matter. Farewell Stroseria.

dont give up now......theres still time to save it.

Why not hire people that would really want to help and could actually be on all the time? like me and all the others looking forward to it?

just shut the **** up.

you do not come to a thread like this, call the staff inactive, then basically say "why not hire me and other players and fire these people that put so much work into it?"

I WILL F*CKING MOP THE FLOOR WITH YOUR SCRAWNY ASS IN AN ARGUMENT IF YOU TRY ME. you dont know how i get, im the MOTHER F*CKING DEMON OF GRAAL,

We spent lots of time on this server, which im not about to let die, we dont need punks like you, that do the equivalent of showing up at someones deathbed to insult them and apply for their job. you dont fool me, im not letting that **** slide, i recommend you turn around, leave this thread, and i can just pretend you didnt just try this you annoying waste of carbon.

You worked on the plan for thirty minutes. No "we" about it, Mr. Demon. You weren't even part of the staff team...

So many dead servers have been returning to life recently, even ones that died before they were released, so it wouldn't be totally impossible for this one to return some day. I hope Strosseria won't go to waste!

I still respect storesia as a server and what they have achieved, keep going would be my choice, but an end comes to everything, I guess this one is sooner than others :(

ive got tons of stuff for the storyline, ive added things to the google doc, about the systems and design, i was just waiting for someone to ask or show something that needs a background,

ive got a whole weapons system and such worked out, lots and lots of stuff ive written up, plenty more is still in my head waiting for a place to set it into play.

we'll all be looking forward to the new server PaulFranks won't we -.-

/sarcasm

Wicked awesome idea: go the way of Thamhic and release EVERYTHING that the server had to public domain to help other servers out.

Don't be the dicks who cruise the forum cussing out other servers who apparently look like you and having an absolute bitch fest if one of your graphics is used as a placeholder.

Or just bring it back ^(._.)^

Best day of my life.

We're trying to decide what to do, atm.

Just release it to the public like Dusty does with his graphics, so new developers who blindly purchase a server have more options in the decoration of their staff-tool playgrounds.

Even if it's crappy. Not like the majority of (players) people around here has seen anything besides one lame screenshot resembling a regular Classic styled level. Only your little 14 year old developer friends have, and they'd be naive to support to idea of continuing the server and it ever to see the day of completion, albeit on the dead medium called Graal PC. (iOS will never happen)

So why are you still around these parts?

well, i still have the storyline saved, and ive got a lot more still in my head, i really hope the server isnt closed and is brought back..

Higbey wants REDEMPTION!.

Revive it before it looses its pulse!
(see what i did therre?)
tehehehehehehehe

Educational purposes and development.

But, when has a storyline been useful/applied to any succesful playerworld like, ever?

I don't discourage you for wanting the server to go on, but I don't think you have much say in this.

• Graal the Adventure
• AEON
• Zodiac
• Unholy Nation

Suck my balls

Graal the Adventure? Okay that's one. But the storyline was like very small and not much depth to it. And it only gets about 10 players on at max.
>AEON
>Zodiac
>Unholy Nation

What? None of these have any storyline to them, in any regard.

>Suck my balls

Could any moderator address this young man's foul language?

Zodiac and Unholy Nation have quests smartass, they have storylines too.

a server without a storyline would be a sandbox game, and in the very simplest of terms, even minecraft has a vague abstract storyline!