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rickclops 01-05-2013 11:44 PM

GST Hosts
 
so much for gst date being posted in the calendar here
I cancelled my gst team because I thought I'd be working though GST if it was this saturday

how is posting a date so hard?

Rufus 01-06-2013 02:58 AM

If you relied on the GST being posted in the calendar on here you would have seen that it wasn't today. It was never advertised on here for today, nor has the registration opened this week. The calendar actually does have the date of the next GST on it though.

I can understand why you would assume that it was being hosted today (it wasn't, due to a lack of available hosts) but please check the things that you're using as a reason to vent before making further assumptions.

rickclops 01-06-2013 05:45 PM

I've checked it like every week. Who hasn't?

This just shows birthdays for the last few months.

Thanks for finally posting then condescendingly saying I should have looked though.

You're right, no one on the whole server knew the correct date because of your transparent and timely notifications.

UN can host many tournaments each month with fewer staff. Many players here can also do a better job than the staff does with hosting this.

Rufus 01-06-2013 09:00 PM

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Posted by rickclops (Post 274608)
I've checked it like every week. Who hasn't?

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Posted by rickclops (Post 274608)
This just shows birthdays for the last few months.

GST is always on a Saturday, check the dates for Saturdays.

http://i.imgur.com/LUdnf.png

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Posted by rickclops (Post 274608)
You're right, no one on the whole server knew the correct date because of your transparent and timely notifications.

I don't understand what this means, even beyond the sarcasm.

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Posted by rickclops (Post 274608)
UN can host many tournaments each month with fewer staff.

I don't know how you believe these two servers and their events can be compared.
  • Currently Classic has 1830 players.
  • Unholy Nation has 35.
  • Classic's GST tournament has 96 teams of 576 players participating.
  • Unholy Nation has 32 players participating, 64 at a push.
  • The GST on Classic is the only tournament that majority of Classic players and staff have been exposed to on Graal. A tournament that has specific requirements for participation and only acommodates a small portion of the overall playerbase. Needless to say there is inexperience.
  • Unholy Nation has several tournaments that are hosted throughout the week, and that have been going on for over 10 years now. Every active player has participated in at least one.
Like, really?

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Posted by rickclops (Post 274608)
Many players here can also do a better job than the staff does with hosting this.

If you believe that you can do a better job of hosting a tournament then there is nothing stopping you. The GST started as a player tournament, where there were no formal registration menus, statues, scripts, belts or any of that. Those features were just added on when it became 'official' to the server.

I made a website with Jazz explaining the tournament and how to register, a few different players translated it into different languages, Luda made a picture to go into people's statuses, the word spread, we had 32 teams, it lasted over an entire weekend, and Memento mori won. It's hard, but if someone is confident in their ability to host a tournament then they should do it instead of waiting once-a-season to participate in one.

Winter 01-06-2013 10:53 PM

It may be for a reason, but I found out that you can view the calendar as a guest and see everyone's birthdays, but not the GST date. You have to log in to see what date it is. However small it may be, I admit that I didn't think of it at first, and others probably ran into the same problem.

Also, I doubt Clops really would have been able to host even if he felt he could do a better job because he already stated that he was going to be working the day of GST, so he couldn't participate. He is correct, though, in pointing out that many other players would be able and willing to host once trained properly. I assume the hosts for each season are scheduled early on, and conflicting issues can be worked out ahead of time, allowing a change of hosts if necessary. That being said, a change in the date of the event really shouldn't occur. Things do come up though, and that is perfectly understandable. However, people would need to be informed. The Graalians calendar is helpful, but since so many people still seem clueless about the GST dates, it may not be enough..

On a side note, since it was pushed back, I may be able to participate now. :D

rickclops 01-06-2013 11:03 PM

No one knowing the date really screwed up my team.
The tournament should be held every month.

It's unlikely anyone can host a guild spar tournament on this server without a means to only allow the two teams that should be fighting this round into the spar room.

There are players that host tournaments frequently, but they haven't been hired as graal staff. Personally I would recommend Power (TA) and Crimewatcher (TA) as the most experienced and consistent hosts.

Also, staff announcements for swamp guild spar challenges should come back if they haven't.

If there aren't enough staff, why wouldn't more be hired if only for GST days. There are usually only 1 or 2 matches occurring simultaneously despite there being 6 viewing rooms.

CrimeWatcher 01-07-2013 02:14 AM

Thanks Clops :P

rickclops 01-07-2013 02:53 AM

There should be 1v1 tournaments also. If you think there will be too many entrants, it should be limited to top players on spar list like with GST.

Hadi 01-07-2013 03:02 AM

Stop whining atleast there is a gst.

Revo* 01-07-2013 03:49 AM

Wasn't it every month? Sorry never actually focused on GST

HON3Y BADG3R 01-07-2013 04:27 AM

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Posted by Revo* (Post 274919)
Wasn't it every month? Sorry never actually focused on GST

It was in the beginning... But god was it pretty laggy at times.

Power 01-07-2013 04:38 AM

Thank you for the recognition Clops, it's much appreciated. Me and CrimeWatcher have hosted over 30 TA 1v1 tournaments and 2v2 tag team tournaments and they have all been very organized and successful. I also agree that there should be 1v1 tournaments in the gst. It would be a lot of fun and very entertaining to watch.

iChronic 01-07-2013 04:42 AM

ur kidding right? Crimewatcher raged at me this one time i beat him..will never forget that doode :angry:

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Posted by Power (Post 274971)
Thank you for the recognition Clops.

u want a medal? or maybe a parade?

Hadi 01-07-2013 04:44 AM

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Posted by iChronic (Post 274975)
ur kidding right? Crimewatcher raged at me this one time i beat him

same thing happened to me

Craig 01-07-2013 12:11 PM

How the hell do you compare a tournament having 30 people on it a all and takes about ten minutes with a tournament having over 100 players, which will last for an hour and more. If you think you can do it better, what I really don't assume after you making yourself look like a fool, go apply for GPs and try your luck..

And, are you saying to hire GPs for the GST only or did I (hopefully) read it wrong?

Oh, and Rufus never said this forum is OFFICIAL, so please, it's your own failure.

rickclops 01-07-2013 09:27 PM

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Posted by Hadi (Post 274900)
Stop whining atleast there is a gst.

Pathetic. Why say at least it's not worse, when it could be much better with little effort

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Posted by Prynce (Post 275138)
How the hell do you compare a tournament having 30 people on it a all and takes about ten minutes with a tournament having over 100 players, which will last for an hour and more. If you think you can do it better, what I really don't assume after you making yourself look like a fool, go apply for GPs and try your luck..

And, are you saying to hire GPs for the GST only or did I (hopefully) read it wrong?

Oh, and Rufus never said this forum is OFFICIAL, so please, it's your own failure.

Rufus just said in this thread to rely on the calendar for the date as he has in the past, pay attention.

I didn't say anything about GPs. Events team is where it's at.

A 64 team tournament is run the same way as a 32 man tournament. It just takes longer. All 3 of us have run more tournaments than you, or this server's staff so we do know.

Craig 01-07-2013 10:09 PM

Still, this isn't the official iClassic forum, and there is none. Oh, and guess what? This server has no ETs, GPs(and also other staff) are hosting the events here..

And I never said it's not the same, but you still cannot compare those two that easy.. I mean a 32 mans tournament and a 64 team tournament.. c'mon, you gotta be kidding me.

And honestly I don't think you need experience to host a tournament as long as you have a plan/a table, so the staffs team is pretty fine..

Whatever, that's my opinion and I really think you have no clue what you're talking about.. as if you say "Catching a cat and a lion is the same, the second one needs more time only..". That's all from me on this topic. =\

rickclops 01-08-2013 03:05 AM

Who was that?

meganey98 01-08-2013 03:36 AM

Yay, GST after the mid-terms! Lovely~! <3

Winter 01-08-2013 04:11 AM

I do not want to be part of this conversation anymore. .___.


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