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iDigzy 01-28-2013 08:22 PM

I liked old map better, sorry for all the hard work that went into the new one, but the update seems pretty useless to me. Why remake the map that was already fine the way it was, at least I thought it was. You know what they say don't try to fix something that's not broken. I just don't like how it's a completely different map and nothing was even added so it's just hard to find your way around now...I don't mean to hurt anyone's feelings with this or whatever. Anyone agree with my post?

Andy 01-28-2013 08:26 PM

It's easier to get around, you just have to get used to it.

Banshee 01-28-2013 09:34 PM

Missions were added that level you up so fast it takes 10 minutes

Kiwi 01-28-2013 09:37 PM

I think it's much better.

Hadi 01-28-2013 09:40 PM

They added a church..

Jester Lapse 01-28-2013 09:46 PM

Hmm, well the update was not just a map.

The map was redesigned because the first one did not really have that "idle" spot. People just afk'd on the mission building and the park was deserted. I like the new map because it is much more organized and I can get from point A to point B quicker.

Two new missions were added for higher levels. They are extremely hard and very rewarding. Also, the ability to do missions with random players was added. New menu. Basically the whole mission thing was revamped per players request.

Ignatius 01-28-2013 09:50 PM

We want guns bro

Jester Lapse 01-28-2013 09:52 PM

you always want guns, and lightsabers :p

Ignatius 01-28-2013 10:00 PM

then release them. its not like theres anything else worth your time.

iDigzy 01-28-2013 10:01 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse
Hmm, well the update was not just a map.

The map was redesigned because the first one did not really have that "idle" spot. People just afk'd on the mission building and the park was deserted. I like the new map because it is much more organized and I can get from point A to point B quicker.

Two new missions were added for higher levels. They are extremely hard and very rewarding. Also, the ability to do missions with random players was added. New menu. Basically the whole mission thing was revamped per players request.

I guess these are pretty good reasons :)

Ignatius 01-28-2013 10:03 PM

they are, but they dont really adress the problem. we want guns and stuff. maybe even some items? melees. Not only TWO missions... and a junk new map where it takes me 30 more seconds to get to showdown.

G Fatal 01-28-2013 10:14 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 288516)
get from point A to point B quicker.

Two new missions were added for higher levels. They are extremely hard and very rewarding.

Its a mission to everywhere except planets in my opinion.

No, missions arn't even hard when baddys just follow you and 40gralats isnt very rewarding I may aswell stay in showdown and get that with a kill or few

Craig 01-28-2013 10:21 PM

Well, you gotta wait.. I'm pretty sure about Zone being a popular server and a lot of items and weapons being added, and if you would be a staff you could see how much Stefan works for Zone at the moment, and how much he cares about it, I really have faith in this.

Jester Lapse 01-28-2013 11:10 PM

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Posted by Gricey (Post 288540)
40gralats isnt very rewarding I may aswell stay in showdown and get that with a kill or few

There are some people who are not skilled in showdown and need an alternate way to make money. Also, missions got easier BECAUSE of the public mission feature. This is to aid those that don't really have a squad. Keep in mind updates may appease to one crowd of players that isn't you, but we need to keep a balanced mix of content that anyone can enjoy.

Ignatius 01-29-2013 12:11 AM

Like GUNS?

Matt 01-29-2013 12:14 AM

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Posted by Ignatius (Post 288534)
they are, but they dont really adress the problem. we want guns and stuff. maybe even some items? melees. Not only TWO missions... and a junk new map where it takes me 30 more seconds to get to showdown.

Every problem is addressed, by the way. It's just terrible that players (such as yourself) have no patience, and don't realize what it takes to prioritize, or develop. Gain some patience, there more important additions needed toward Zone than guns. They will come eventually.

JakeRage 01-29-2013 12:47 AM

I was hoping for a new way to make money, considering I'm level 8 and only make 20 gralats per 10 minute mission.

poorface 01-29-2013 12:57 AM

I understand the time and effort put into this and I think it's a great update (even though I haven't tried out the missions yet), but what I don't understand is the promise of an update "tomorrow" but then taking two days to release any new content.

Ean-Matic 01-29-2013 01:42 AM

What poorface said, lol. Instead of saying it'll come the next day or something, say its coming soon. Or just don't say anything at all. I've actually seen a few people stay up late just for the update.

By the way guys, you get graalium to sell from missions, boosting it up from mission money+minerals from big opponents. So it'll boost it up like 15-60, lol.

Another thing I don't like is that there's no level boosts. Either they're working on it or just leaving it as is. I'm sorry if you guys are working on it and I'm saying this, lol. Levels should at least add damage against aliens or reduce the damage from them. Unlocking stuff like hats and items, too. I'm currently level 9 and I see no point in levels right now, so work hard for us! xD

Can't wait to see what you have in store for us. :)

DragonRider 01-29-2013 06:04 PM

The new missions are horrible. It's tedious, boring, and a little too hard (maybe just me). It's just so grating, and it's definitely not worth if for the "reward" that's just a bit of gralats.

Craig 01-29-2013 07:12 PM

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Posted by DragonRider (Post 289032)
The new missions are horrible. It's tedious, boring, and a little too hard (maybe just me). It's just so grating, and it's definitely not worth if for the "reward" that's just a bit of gralats.

Do the mission with 19 other people, won't take even a minute. Fast, and easy money.

Ignatius 01-29-2013 09:45 PM

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Posted by *Matt (Post 288602)
Every problem is addressed, by the way. It's just terrible that players (such as yourself) have no patience, and don't realize what it takes to prioritize, or develop. Gain some patience, there more important additions needed toward Zone than guns. They will come eventually.

I assure you, you could get more players with more firearm variety. I've looked through the files, there are some guns in there. Already gani'ed or whatever. So, release them, release the free version, and add some content. Like unique things. People have posted MANY ideas that are far better than a map change.

To make this game as popular as iEra or iClassic -- LISTEN TO THE PLAYERS.

Now, onto players (such as myself)'s patience: The reason we act the way we do is this -- I'll be honest. In your eyes, I'm probably an annoying kid. This is your opinion though, keep that in mind. But the other reason is, we expect you to release a game when it has plenty of content to occupy the players. And you should also be able to price things more accurate. The gralats rewarded for missions is terribly low. The number of firearms is terribly low. The content just isn't there.

Sure, theres always going to be people who complain, but that number of people will deplete RAPIDLY if you release new content CONSTANTLY. *Keywords- Content, Constantly*

GlazeyB 01-29-2013 10:25 PM

Come on bro. That's asking way too much for terrible ol' iZone.

Ignatius 01-29-2013 10:46 PM

At least im an optimist sometimes.

Jester Lapse 01-29-2013 10:48 PM

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Posted by Ignatius (Post 289185)
*Keywords- Content, Constantly*

Dec 17th - Released
Dec 18th - update - killer cam
Dec 20th - update - event: showdown - player hat shop
Dec 22nd - update - pk leader board
Dec 23rd - update - Christmas music - updates to showdown
Dec 25th - update - Christmas shop - Christmas gun
Dec 26th - update - Melee spar
Dec 27th - update - squad logo tagged below you
Dec 29th - update - now able to buy Christmas tree - squad icons appear on map for taken places
Dec 31st - update - new years shop
Jan 5th - update - gun spar
Jan 11th - update - brand new planet, brand new universe - planet taking introduced - planet leader-boards added - PVP coins added - leader-board popup at first log in - chat update for battles - lobby map updates
Jan 12th - update - spar reset added
Jan 13th - update - sound messages added - new gun, Heavy Laser - rage mode added - chat updated for battles
Jan 14th - update -unequip added
Jan 15th - update -fences updates to block bullets, ships for fun features added
Jan 20th - update - robots added - mining added - classes added
Jan 21st - update - new gun: Goonader
Jan 22nd - update - minor changes/bug fixes to robots
Jan 23rd - update- new option:small buttons - squad search enabled - drag view enabled
Jan 27th - update - new over-world - two new missions - overhaul of mission menu layout - added public missions
Jan 29th - update - disable drag option



Yea, because zone doesn't do constant updates. ok

Skill 01-29-2013 10:53 PM

Did they fix the issue where doing low level missions granted less rewards? You don't get stronger as you level, so it's the most pointless idea ever.

Ignatius 01-29-2013 10:53 PM

Lets refine this. I meant good updates. Not that some of those aren't good, but....

Look. EVERYONE wanted to be able to disable screen pull. But that doesn't really mean its new content. I mean it is but it isnt. A new gun is new content. A new event is content. Catch my drift? It's larger things that players enjoy. Not just new options. Anyways, thanks for letting us disable screen pull. Just add more. Players are greedy. Gotta keep 'em happy.

Jester Lapse 01-29-2013 11:06 PM

Well you see, even those "small updates" take work from the scripting team, which in all honesty is mostly Stefan, so yes, those "not good updates" in your eyes probably take more work than you will ever know. So I count them. I think we should start doing what iClassic and iEra does and just update once a month or something.

Ignatius 01-29-2013 11:47 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 289254)
Well you see, even those "small updates" take work from the scripting team, which in all honesty is mostly Stefan, so yes, those "not good updates" in your eyes probably take more work than you will ever know. So I count them. I think we should start doing what iClassic and iEra does and just update once a month or something.

I never said they were bad, just small. Hire more scripters if needed.

I realize they take work, but this new map is horrible. Its just bad leveling. Give us some good leveling at least. I could make better on this crappy tileset. Work hard=players happy. Walaa.

Jester Lapse 01-30-2013 12:21 AM

Implying staff doesn't work hard. Lol @ just hire more scripters. Find me a group of scripters who are trustworthy and can provide decent work in a small amount of time. If you can do better, than do it.

Banshee 01-30-2013 12:26 AM

Teach me and I will :3 does that mean I should see an update tomorrow :p

Era News 01-30-2013 12:28 AM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 289283)
Implying staff doesn't work hard. Lol @ just hire more scripters. Find me a group of scripters who are trustworthy and can provide decent work in a small amount of time. If you can do better, than do it.

Instead of assuming that there's none out there, why don't you guys try to hire.

Ignatius 01-30-2013 12:29 AM

The Doctor, and Godoco seem pretty good. But don't ask me. If you want to make your terrible game better, do it yourself. Also, get a new
tileset. More scripters let you her more done. Simple as that.

Jester Lapse 01-30-2013 12:34 AM

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Posted by Era News (Post 289290)
Instead of assuming that there's none out there, why don't you guys try to hire.

Ironic, whenever we do try to hire/do hire, you always trash people (mainly staff) on the thread. Congrats, you demoralized a lot of people, yet they are still pushing out updates. Believe it or not however, I have been looking through threads about scripting on here and there isn't really anyone available that catch's my eye. So in between people such as yourself trashing staff, and the lack of a scripting essence on these forums, you can understand why a hiring thread was not made.

What will most likely happen is that iZone will have to reach out to the PC community.

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Posted by Ignatius (Post 289291)
The Doctor, and Godoco seem pretty good. But don't ask me. If you want to make your terrible game better, do it yourself. Also, get a new
tileset. More scripters let you her more done. Simple as that.

You assume, and assume wrong. Don't say you can do better then not do anything lol, empty words. If the game is so terrible, why are you here?

Zero02 01-30-2013 01:28 AM

You people just ask and ask and ask (nag nag nag nag), do you all even realize staff are working on new content? If you guys just want new content, give new ideas or just make them yourself, sheesh. And you all complain about stefan being greedy.

Ignatius 01-30-2013 01:38 AM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 289294)
Ironic, whenever we do try to hire/do hire, you always trash people (mainly staff) on the thread. Congrats, you demoralized a lot of people, yet they are still pushing out updates. Believe it or not however, I have been looking through threads about scripting on here and there isn't really anyone available that catch's my eye. So in between people such as yourself trashing staff, and the lack of a scripting essence on these forums, you can understand why a hiring thread was not made.

What will most likely happen is that iZone will have to reach out to the PC community.



You assume, and assume wrong. Don't say you can do better then not do anything lol, empty words. If the game is so terrible, why are you here?

I don't play any more. It sucks THAT MUCH.

Jester Lapse 01-30-2013 01:44 AM

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Posted by Ignatius (Post 289324)
I don't play any more. It sucks THAT MUCH.

Then again I ask, why are you here?

Matt 01-30-2013 01:45 AM

Threads like this will be stopped from now on.


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