5k hat replacement?
 

Earlier I was checking new posts on the forums and I came across a thread about guild hats etc.. One of the posts stated that they should replace 5k hats with something better so people don't cut off guilds at 1k. Since the noobs dream is to have a guild hat, and all they do tower guilds for is the guild hat, make the guild hat list for 5k unlimited so that people won't keep doing small 1k guilds and the noob achieves his goal. Also, from what I've seen guild hats are what keeps the towers going. See if you take away guild hats there will be no point in towers for the newer players. And every time I see someone posting something about taking away guild hats, they already have 4-5.
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Solution: Remove all hats from game

Then your removing gst towers and the system of noob tower guilds.

Towering was actually fun before pulse got their 1k hat. After that it got boring, since everybody just towers for a hat now.

Or remove the 1k hat.
If a guild needs rewards to tower that is pretty lame to do so.

Take away all the previous 1k hats, then add in those options that everyone else above posted.

I still strongly believe first 30 guilds on the leader boards should keep their hat. You'll notice after that it's just hat chasers. I can't see why anyone other than a hat chaser would not support this. I wouldn't even be able to see why new/inexperienced players wouldn't support this, especially if they're the ones on 24/7 day and night then end up not getting the hat in the long run because the leader decided to give it to his buddy who wasn't in the guild to begin with.

Also, I do recall a while back in 2011 I believe when it was rumored that guild hats would've stopped at #20. Unfortunately, that never happened. Neither did the generic item thing. I was really counting on seeing that one, but they never really decided what to use for a replacement.

No more 1k hats should be allowed. The people that do have hats already can keep one of their choice.

1k should just be a sign or something that says whatever guild it is. You can hold the sign and show it off and that's about it. 5k stay hat and 10k mount.

I mean this has gotten so ridiculous. TaKaii->Militia->Obsidian->Geysuga

IT'S THE SAME GUILD MADE 4 TIMES FOR A NEW HAT EACH TIME

They're cluttering the leaderboards, once again make leaderboards top 50 only so guilds that stopped at exactly 1k won't even have to be looked at/remembered.

Wipe leaderboard>No more 1k hats>Ignore crying kids

Don't wipe leaderboard, just make it top 50.

Yes wipe the leader board, 5-90 are hat chasing guilds.

Hence part of why I hate obsidian and all their hat monkey guilds. Let's say they finish Getsuga and start another hat monkey guild that gets 1k. If they add all their hours together and put it into one guild, they got 5k. If they had 5k, they would be in the top 10! Who wouldn't want that? These noob hat chasers, of course.

And Geysuga? Was that a typo? Or are you callin them gey?

Don't just blow off what I just said, all making it Top 50 is doing is idolizing hat chasers as there are only 5 guilds in the Top 50 that are actually legitimate guilds. Wipe the leader board so that other new guilds can have a shot.

wipe out the score board. make the hall of fame for the top 10 and all the other guilds have their hours still. Make it so guilds have to be made brand new to be on the leader boards. Remove all hours under 1k. Start fresh. Remove 1k hats.

This.
if i lose my fatal hat, i will kill myself.

im dead srs guys.

I'm still I'm favor of having only the top 30 keep their hats because majority of those guilds got their 1k hours before the Facebook server and at that time, towering was much more competition based vs hat chasing based. Yes, I suppose getting a hat was one of the major goals of guilds at that time but back then towering wasn't as easy as it is now. Towers had higher health and tighter spaces.

Getting 1k hours was a much bigger deal than it is now. It's like almost weekly a new guild reaches 1k hours nowadays. Staff stopped broadcasting 1k hours after a while since they also realized it wasn't as big of a deal as it was back then. But then why choose the first 30?
Because if you look underneath #30 on the leader boards, all you'll notice is hat chasing guilds. Some you may recognize, others you probably haven't heard of until you've seen them flaunting their disgusting oversized hats.

That's another thing, the hats aren't even that great anymore. It's like they've slowly began to get bigger, and bigger as time goes on. It's bad enough you have all these people mucking up the sportsmanship of tower taking, now you're stuck with looking at an eye sore of a hat. Livid.

/rant

TL;DR Top 30 guilds on the leader boards because 1k hours were hard earned, towers were challenging, hat chasing trend wasn't even that big of a deal at the time, 1k hours was considered an actual accomplishment back then, and of course the hats weren't painful to look at.

Ok
I don't wanna see y'all cry cause y'all lost your Zanza hat or Cruxis hat
Bye

See look at Santa Claus trying to promote his own guild. I think that if he never owned a 10k guild he wouldn't be saying what he is lol. Again everyone saying remove 1k hats are already satisfied with their 4-5. And I understand that no one will tower if 1k hats removed but the whole point is to have the towers OCCUPIED lol.

And also realize that this game all ends up with something to do with money. You pay 99 cents to get 2500 gralats, then lead the guild to 1k and get the hat. If you remove 1k hats no one will buy anymore guilds for towers. Like the Kurosaki/Getsuga branch that's 6 dollies right there now imagine that multiplied by 1,000 and you get your money loss.

I only have one 1k hat and I really don't think I need more. Anyways, people will still tower if 1k hats are abolished. Yes, there would be the group of people who will do absolutely nothing but b**** nonstop but there will also be the group of wiser people, who will take advantage of the situation by simply going for 5k or 10k since people will be too busy complaining to tower. Thus giving them no competition, and a swift path to their reward.

Removing hours too seems good, it would be pointless to wipe the leaderboards if fort hours were kept.

Wiping the leader boards and tower hours seems a bit too radical in my opinion. When you think about it, there aren't that many activities guilds can do. Guild Spar and Towering are about all we have.

Back then i towered with cruxis for fun and didnt give a **** about a stupid hat.
We made cxe because trigger didnt want to do towers anymore so we moved onto cxe to help other guidls get towers and keep the family together.
I still dont give a crap about 1k hats or other ****. If i did i would of had the 10k mount now and the 5k hat was given at 10k and i might even start cxe back up over the summer for 15k. Just becasue i said the top 10 doesnt mean my guild. if i did i would say the top 3 and awhile ago they removed the 1k hat and people still towered. No one was big on the stupid hat. This is coming from the person with 2 1k hats.

I think it should be radical, I am all for crushing any hat hunters.

Lol I have 3 guild hats. People call me a hat hunter but please I do towers for fun I join tower guilds because my friends invite me to them. New world order FB my first tower guild. The story to this: When I started graal I immediately joined Characters Japan because I saw they always had a tower. And at that time I had no idea about guild hats and mounts. There I made friends with Bleck. Bleck was the first person to introduce me into the major parts of graal and he was the first person to make me a custom head. Then bleck introduced me to Avis and while CJ was taking a break Bleck Avis and I were planning on doing a tower guild called imperfection. But the word was out that the leader of New world order FB was coming back from quitting, to finish the 1k so Avis told Bleck and I that we have to do nwo before we do imperfection. Second guild hat: Call4Combat. I know you think they are hat chasers but they are actually interesting people and fun to be with. C4C story: After NWO 1k I was planning to lead imperfection by myself, but it got boring so I joined my friend Bleck in C4C and we got 1k. 3rd 1k hat: Obsidian. I joined the original obsidian because Kipper was a friend and the leads originally were me Alex Sir Reapz and Kipper. Then Lanky joined and all the 'pros' letting 1k happen in about a month. Those are my current stories.

Hey look, this could work as a generic item. Yes I know, I'm a beautiful artist. No need to tell me how good I am.

http://i.imgur.com/XzJZiaht.jpg

But here's just to get an idea of what could/should be a generic item alternative to 1k hats.

I'd like a top 20 HALL OF FAME in mod town. Have the members of the guilds in statues. And for all those 1k no more no less guilds.. There should be a limited time item besides the hat.

I'll have to disagree with you. To me, even working one thousand hours is too much of life to waste getting a hat. But that's a whole different argument, about whether or not your going to continue wasting life playing.

Ok ok...what you need to understand first is that the branches are all lead by people that do not think that spending time on this game is worth it. When you spend more time outside of the game, let me know and we'll continue talking.

There are more than 5 baka. Instead of doing this just remove all guild hats from guilds that got there guild hat after they brought back the 1k hat rule when it was removed for a while. I worked hard to get my guild 1400 hours and I get to lose that so 5 guilds can be praised? Umm no

Ya lets just reset everything and start from scratch. Get rid of everyones items, stats and bluehs hrs. Tards

I understand the side against it but then again I think of the new members that are joining and starting to tower, it would make it harder for the lower less popular tower taking guilds they would lose motivation and eventually give up and only strong "pro" filling people guilds would tower. Therefore each famous guild having a tower not bothering to go for another but safely having and conquering their own.

1k hats are what need to be replaced

Possibly make it so only if your on tag you get the hat? That would Keep those hat chasers in line.

Look we want people in towers. Another idea that doesn't involve removing anything is when there are 100 ranked tower guilds with 1k+ you reset the board and xor takes the guilds if they aren't towering, and if they are towering or not, everyone keeps the hat and the board is clear. Then towering guilds stay on the board and when they stop the people who have the hat can still enjoy the hat. And the whole point of Taylorrichaards is to let the graal players customize themselves, then why not keep the 1k hats if they like them :0!

That's pretty much saying this:

Lets remove all of the guilds besides SON and let all of their hard work be forgotten so all hat chasers can be at the top!

In conclusion, that was the worst idea ever. It's Like taking the records for swimming and wiping them just because they don't swim anymore.

Agreed. Can we think of some ideas that will cause the least amount of problems?

The part about Soul of Noobs made me smile

Cap on guildhat-give date and how many its capped to them No more prizes all for glory, honour, to be the best like old days

Yes. Back in the days it took us 1 year (if not longer) to get Fatal to 1k. It was (still is) the best experience i have ever had on Graal. Tower guilds these days do not experience these, because it's all about hats for them.

I still would more than love to see the reactions of those hat monkeys when their precious oversized hat gets shoved up their ass. Who cares if they complain? Nobody other than a hat chaser themself would mind to see some of those hats go away. If anything they're wasting some of our GFX staff members' time by having them make hats for them when instead they could be making content for the community. If hat chasers love towers so much, fine then. Let them go for 5k instead of 1k. If they want to instead complain about their hat stuck between their cheeks instead of on their head, fine then too. Makes it easier for those who will go for 5k.

If they don't think it's worth it why do they keep making new hat chasing guilds?

How about a badge for 1k hat replacement? Count the tower hours personally, if they helped over 500 hours on someone's guild. They will automatically get the badge in their inventory. They can wear one badge and it will appear before your name.
And make a furniture that holds all badges.

Do not give out anymore 1k hats, people keep their 1k hats. Just keep 5k hat and 10k mount.

Towers will not die. Plenty of people did towers before 1k hats, and plenty of people will still do it if they remove 1k hats. Just get rid of the 1k hat prize, and everything will be ok.

A lot people playing now probably didn't join before Pulse got 1k. The tower taking community is mostly hat chasers now. I'm for removing 1k hats, but I don't think everything will be ok with the guilds that have 500-999 hours. We really don't need a mob of hat chasers in Graal City saying

"BRIG BACK 1K HATS U STUPID ADMINS!!!!"
"YEAH U MAD E US SPEND 830 HOURSS FOR NOTHIN!!"
"IVE NEVER GOT HAT IN MY ENTIRE LIFEE"
"WITHOUT HAT GUIDLS SUCK AND ADMIN SUCK"
"GIMME ADMIN HAT INSTEAD IF U NO GIMME 1K HAT"
*insert more hat removal protests here*

I really don't care what they're saying, I just care that Graal City doesn't become even more laggy and I can actually see myself when I'm walking. Again, I'm for it, but towers will be almost vacant and a swarm of noob hat chasers will rage.

I disagree, Im pretty sure plenty of people will still tower, just not as many.

But wait what will happen when 100 ranked guilds have 1k fort hours? I hope other guild activities could be added in.

Who cares they will move on and not care after awhile. Just like any other tower update we just take it in and before they did this and everyone didn't care just moved on.

Alright I'm going to compile everything I think should happen here.

1. Top 50 leaderboards so it's an actual challenge to get on the board.

2. Reset all fb guilds to 0. They're embarrassments to real guilds, and now get mistaked for being good guilds by noobs. They're all dead and got there hat, so the noobs will have nothing to cry about.

3. Remove 1k hat opportunity or change 5k to something that'll motivate guilds to not die. If 1k hat opportunity is removed, slowly do it. Example: Let guilds with 500+ hours and are currently active still have the chance but noone else. I don't care what any guild leader says, they'd all be pissed if all of a sudden at 900 hours they can't get the hat anymore. And if they're removed stick with it this time. No generic prize is needed.

4. This one is really off topic but change all tower hps and spawns back, towering is a joke now, quantity noobs favored over quality players.

THAT.
I haven't seen any FB guilds that are passed 1,000 hours doing towers at all.

Let people riot and complain about their hats being taken away is what I'm saying. In a democracy not everyone has to agree with everything. Which of course history has shown, there have been riots and marches, etc of whatever it may be in the past but the government did it anyway. Why? Because it's what is best and what a majority may want.

Now say tomorrow, you woke up and all forms of alcohol were made illegal. Surely a lot of people won't be too thrilled to hear it, but there would be less issues when it comes to drunk driving. (Yes, I know alcohol was once illegal and there were underground speak easys and all sorts of gang chaos related to alcohol but this is a game where you can't just simply smuggle 1k hats.)

Again, if I were a serious tower taker who would tower for sport instead of hats I would take major advantage of these petty riots where I'd imagine almost every guild occupying a fort would abandon their posts to riot. I would gather up my other serious tower taking and/or PK buddies and paint the entire map with a different design. Build up support from other serious tower takers (by serious meaning: for the sake of just having a fort) and have them join and eventually work our way up to the top. Simple without competition. You could say it's cheap, but I would call it smart.