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mr froggy 10-23-2011 12:29 PM

should admins be allowed to make a fort taking guild?
 
do u think admins should be alllowed to take forts or not?

i think they should be allowed to unless they completly change there name from there admin name

callimuc 10-23-2011 12:31 PM

Wait so admin xyz might not call himself/herself abc? What´s the sence behind it?

Pazx 10-23-2011 12:46 PM

you give sos the worst rep here frog

mr froggy 10-23-2011 01:04 PM

pazx u just pmed me saying u agree!

theres a guild theres been around for ages there leader wasnt an admin they got a tower like once a week for like 2 hours then there admin became leader and there getting a tower and holding it for ages if no body new there leader i bet the guild would still be getting 1 fort a week

oh god i did not just get leader an admin mixed around bahahaha ok maybe i do pazx

new there leader was an admin.....** fail

SireCloud 10-23-2011 02:03 PM

Unless they use admin powers to take the tower, I think it's fine.

Now are you talking about what happened to Slim? I'm not understanding the situation

Rezon 10-23-2011 03:54 PM

derp

Bubble 10-23-2011 04:02 PM

Most admin guilds are tower-taking guilds. As long as the admin doesn't abuse their rights to help it's not a problem.

Tyler 10-23-2011 04:08 PM

I think it's fine if they don't abuse their powers.

Cat612 10-23-2011 04:57 PM

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Posted by TylerMysTe
I think it's fine if they don't abuse their powers.

What he said

Rexx 10-23-2011 05:00 PM

They shouldn't..they should focus on their "busy" job not their fan club

Cat612 10-23-2011 05:01 PM

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Posted by Rexx
They shouldn't..they should focus on their "busy" job not their fan club

Taking away all aesthetics of the game is hardly any reward for their volunteered service

Bubble 10-23-2011 05:02 PM

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Posted by Cat612 (Post 25715)
Taking away all aesthetics of the game is hardly any reward for their volunteered service

Lol I love how they say it's volunteer but there's no way for most players to volunteer.

Cat612 10-23-2011 05:05 PM

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Posted by Bubble

Lol I love how they say it's volunteer but there's no way for most players to volunteer.

They're not being paid, thus "volunteer"

Bubble 10-23-2011 05:07 PM

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Posted by Cat612 (Post 25718)
They're not being paid, thus "volunteer"

Volunteer also means that people can apply to do something (without being paid).

Cat612 10-23-2011 05:08 PM

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Posted by Bubble

Volunteer also means that people can apply to do something (without being paid).

There are multiple definitions

Bubble 10-23-2011 05:09 PM

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Posted by Cat612 (Post 25721)
There are multiple definitions

True. I was using it as a verb.

Rexx 10-23-2011 05:12 PM

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Posted by Cat612 (Post 25715)
Taking away all aesthetics of the game is hardly any reward for their volunteered service

Who said there has to be a reward.

They've chosen their position in the game, if they want to "play" like everyone else then they shouldn't be an admin.

Tell me when's the last time where you played a game and saw a staff member playing along with everyone else?

Bubble 10-23-2011 05:13 PM

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Posted by Rexx (Post 25729)
Tell me when's the last time where you played a game and saw a staff member playing along with everyone else?

Graal.

Rexx 10-23-2011 05:18 PM

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Posted by Bubble (Post 25732)
Graal.

Obviously what I said is untrue for Graal, you missed the point smart one

Cat612 10-23-2011 05:18 PM

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Posted by Rexx
Who said there has to be a reward.

They've chosen their position in the game, if they want to "play" like everyone else then they shouldn't be an admin.

Tell me when's the last time where you played a game and saw a staff member playing along with everyone else?

Having their own guild isn't a reward, it's a right that comes with buying the game.
And having staff members interact with players gives a more familial feel to the game

Bubble 10-23-2011 05:19 PM

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Posted by Rexx (Post 25736)
Obviously what I said is untrue for Graal, you missed the point smart one

I got your point. I can tell you've never played Graal PC.

Rexx 10-23-2011 05:22 PM

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Posted by Bubble (Post 25738)
I got your point. I can tell you've never played Graal PC.

Okay so you're trying to belittle me and pride yourself in playing Graal PC?
Sorry but when I'm on the computer I don't waste it playing a low budget 2D game made in some European dudes basement.

Bubble 10-23-2011 05:23 PM

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Posted by Rexx (Post 25739)
Okay so you're trying to belittle me and pride yourself in playing Graal PC?
Sorry but when I'm on the computer I don't waste it playing a low budget 2D game made in some European dudes basement.

No I'm just saying that staff do play alongside the players in certain games. And stop trying to put people down.

Cat612 10-23-2011 05:24 PM

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Posted by Rexx

Okay so you're trying to belittle me and pride yourself in playing Graal PC?
Sorry but when I'm on the computer I don't waste it playing a low budget 2D game made in some European dudes basement.

If you're so against Graal then why do you play?

Rexx 10-23-2011 05:24 PM

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Posted by Bubble (Post 25740)
No I'm just saying that staff do play alongside the players in certain games. And stop trying to put people down.

Other than Graal!
you obviously did not get my point.

And who have I name called or directly insulted please tell me.

Bubble 10-23-2011 05:25 PM

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Posted by Rexx (Post 25742)
Other than Graal!
you obviously did not get my point.

And who have I name called or directly insulted please tell me.

From the way you're speaking it seems like you're trying to put people down. You can post without being nasty.

Cat612 10-23-2011 05:25 PM

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Posted by Rexx

Obviously what I said is untrue for Graal, you missed the point smart one


Rexx 10-23-2011 05:29 PM

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Posted by Cat612 (Post 25741)
If you're so against Graal then why do you play?

I'm not against Graal, just some of the people in it...self righteous people like you for example =]

Cat612 10-23-2011 05:30 PM

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Posted by Rexx

I'm not against Graal, just the people in it...self righteous people like you for example =]

Self-righteous? Oh, I'm sorry have you heard yourself? And if you hate the people so much then why did you join a Graal forum?

Rexx 10-23-2011 05:37 PM

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Posted by Cat612 (Post 25747)
Self-righteous? Oh, I'm sorry have you heard yourself? And if you hate the people so much then why did you join a Graal forum?

you should be sorry lol, when and where did I say I hate people?
I didn't and you've resorted to putting words in my mouth which is pretty sad.

ponder this:

Bubble 10-23-2011 05:38 PM

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Posted by Rexx (Post 25749)
you should be sorry lol, when and where did I say I hate people?
I didn't and you've resorted to putting words in my mouth which is pretty sad.

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Posted by Rexx (Post 25745)
I'm not against Graal, just some of the people in it...self righteous people like you for example =]


HappyCat123 10-23-2011 05:42 PM

I play Era and I see Admin Gangs taking bases ALOT.I find it unfair to other gangs, bacause most of the people in the Admin gang are hoping they'll get free stuff/special treatment, when the non-admin gang is having a hard time even getting members to take a base.So im kinda against admin gangs taking bases, since it kinda makes it unfair to regular players just trying to take a base.

Bubble 10-23-2011 05:43 PM

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Posted by HappyCat123 (Post 25752)
I play Era and I see Admin Gangs taking bases ALOT.I find it unfair to other gangs, bacause most of the people in the Admin gang are hoping they'll get free stuff/special treatment, when the non-admin gang is having a hard time even getting members to take a base.So im kinda against admin gangs taking bases, since it kinda makes it unfair to regular players just trying to take a base.

So you're against admins having gangs in the first place, not just taking bases.

Rexx 10-23-2011 05:43 PM

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Posted by Bubble (Post 25754)
So you're against admins having gangs in the first place, not just taking bases.


http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/l...-your-anus.jpg

Cat612 10-23-2011 05:47 PM

Ok, hate and against are pretty much the same thing, and I'm sorry that you interpret things so literally.

Rexx 10-23-2011 06:04 PM

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Posted by Cat612 (Post 25759)
Ok, hate and against are pretty much the same thing, and I'm sorry that you interpret things so literally.

wow you are steeping pretty low now you're saying "hate" and "against" are the same thing. lol pathetic, and you still put words in my mouth so I don't see how I'm interpreting what you said literally when I didnt even say it

Cat612 10-23-2011 06:11 PM

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Posted by Rexx

wow you are steeping pretty low now you're saying "hate" and "against" are the same thing. lol pathetic, and you still put words in my mouth so I don't see how I'm interpreting what you said literally when I didnt even say it

I never put any words in your mouth, don't flatter yourself

Words like "hate" and "against" when used in that context are so similar that no one picks them apart like that unless they're really desperate for a comeback

Chaotic 10-23-2011 06:36 PM

If i was staff i'd still want too play the game as well, wouldnt you?

Tyler 10-23-2011 06:37 PM

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Posted by Chaotic (Post 25785)
If i was staff i'd still want too play the game as well, wouldnt you?

Nicely worded.

Cat612 10-23-2011 06:38 PM

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Posted by Chaotic
If i was staff i'd still want too play the game as well, wouldnt you?

Well, you pretty much said everything I couldn't in one post

Talon 10-23-2011 08:09 PM

Yes, lets force Advent V, Cruxis, and Helsing's leaders to change their because they are admins.

MrSimons 10-23-2011 09:00 PM

Staff should have just as many rights as players.

Rexx 10-23-2011 10:27 PM

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Posted by Cat612 (Post 25772)
I never put any words in your mouth, don't flatter yourself

Words like "hate" and "against" when used in that context are so similar that no one picks them apart like that unless they're really desperate for a comeback

you're desperate because you're still going on about it lol

Cat612 10-23-2011 11:07 PM

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Posted by Rexx

you're desperate because you're still going on about it lol

I'm still going on about it? You brought it up again 4 hours later

HappyCat123 10-23-2011 11:16 PM

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Posted by Bubble (Post 25754)
So you're against admins having gangs in the first place, not just taking bases.

Im against them taking bases.I could care less if they made a gang to just chill.

Rexx 10-23-2011 11:21 PM

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Posted by Cat612 (Post 25855)
I'm still going on about it? You brought it up again 4 hours later

http://i51.tinypic.com/6yjcpu.jpg

Cat612 10-23-2011 11:43 PM

Very clever

Chaotic 10-23-2011 11:45 PM

Ahh, here we have the "Cool Story Bro" picture. This picture is used when the poster, usually mad/at loss for words posts when he himself can not think of a clever reply to post back/knows he lost the fight. This picture is most likely used as a last ditch effort. Tune in to Animal Planet next week to learn the lifestyle of the Forever Alone picture.

Totally calling a "Cool Story Bro" picture posted in reply to this post

Pimpsy G. 10-24-2011 12:20 AM

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Posted by Chaotic (Post 25785)
If i was staff i'd still want too play the game as well, wouldnt you?

Yes, But i think the point of this post is to comprehend the idea that staff members, due to the nature of their job, are very, very popular in the graal community. This gives the idea that this extreme popularity in the community severley limits the ability for normal players to create guilds due to the fact that staff members have an obvious advantage over normal players when it comes to recruiting, due to the nature of their job.

Heres a better analogy: Imagine you were in gym class and your teacher allowed everyone to break into several groups of their own choosing for a basketball tournament. But the teacher, being an incredible college basketball player back in his heyday, allows himself to have his own team to compete in the tournament as well. Thus, most of the students who are experienced want to be on his team due to his part in college basketball history. Many people complain about this, but the teacher argues that since he was a college basketball player and loves the game, he wants too play it as well.

But that's just what I am getting from his argument.

Tyler 10-24-2011 12:24 AM

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Posted by Pimpsy G. (Post 25880)
Yes, But i think the point of this post is to comprehend the idea that staff members, due to the nature of their job, are very, very popular in the graal community. This gives the idea that this extreme popularity in the community severley limits the ability for normal players to create guilds due to the fact that staff members have an obvious advantage over normal players when it comes to recruiting, due to the nature of their job.

Heres a better analogy: Imagine you were in gym class and your teacher allowed everyone to break into several groups of their own choosing for a basketball tournament. But the teacher, being an incredible college basketball player back in his heyday, allows himself to have his own team to compete in the tournament as well. Thus, most of the students who are experienced want to be on his team due to his part in college basketball history. Many people complain about this, but the teacher argues that since he was a college basketball player and loves the game, he wants too play it as well.

But that's just what I am getting from his argument.

I agree with you about the recruiting advantage, but I would think they would know better not to take advantage of that and recruit people they already know and not some suck ups. If not, than that is an extreme advantage.


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