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kenthefruit 03-17-2013 07:50 AM

Terrible Updates that have been released on iClassic
 
The first major update that come to mind that has ruined Classic is the idling warp. You can't even sit outside for 10 minutes without being warped to an unwanted area. Another terrible update is the Alignment Point system. The AP system has no necessary use to the Classic society. All I see is disadvantages if you spar, PK, or tower. But if you sit and do nothing your only advantage is the ability to not be hurt by a sword. Yet another useless update is the Guild Picture approval. I see the improvement it made, but it's ruined the idea of Guild Pictures. That's all I can think of at this moment, but the main two were the Idling Warp, and AP system.

iChronic 03-17-2013 08:08 AM

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instanc...0/31095166.jpg

Devs ran out of ideas so they just copy and pasted **** from old servers to make it seem like they made something big, in youtube these are called fillers.

AP doesn't even have a purpose..i thought it was going be for a trade quest but it seems like they abandoned that project. They hired like 35+ admins just for events..most of which are snobby. I PM a GP and he tells me that he isnt on duty, I asked him who I should refer to instead and he just tells me to "deal with it"..****ing prick

When they released Mod town I thought there would be a new activity, since they promised more events like archery were to be added, instead North graal had their building refurnished with more beds and a ****ing random fountain that takes money.. tf.

Btw those lumberjacks had me going.. I was expecting a quest that would let me cut down trees. Was it even necessary to add them in? cause all that did was get peoples hopes up

still a pretty cool game though.

Victor 03-17-2013 08:14 AM

iChronic, that is Graal Staff for you. You should get used to it cause it sure hasn't changed the 11 years I played this game.

Skill 03-17-2013 08:47 AM

ap system is the worst update, all it does is make the game more annoying for pkers because now they can't heal, plus guilds abuse it to be able to rally on the top floor of a fort before all burning off their ap bonus and quickly capping it on suprise.

Kiwi 03-17-2013 09:04 AM

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Posted by BaKon (Post 313525)
Yet another useless update is the Guild Picture approval. I see the improvement it made, but it's ruined the idea of Guild Pictures.

How does it ruin the idea of them? The idea is to upload a logo or image to represent your guild. The upload system is there so your guild pictures are actually guild pictures. You won't have a problem with it unless you're trying to boost your self-esteem in an attempt that mostly gets abuse from people going "u ugly wh0re", or you're trying to share porn, which is inappropriate for the majority of the age bracket. Are you trying to do either one of those things?

Ryan 03-17-2013 09:16 AM

Definitely AP

Aaron 03-17-2013 11:18 AM

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Posted by BaKon (Post 313525)
The first major update that come to mind that has ruined Classic is the idling warp. You can't even sit outside for 10 minutes without being warped to an unwanted area.

Did this mess up your event camping? Or would you rather seeing, "Rate my Look" more often?

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Posted by BaKon (Post 313525)
Another terrible update is the Alignment Point system. The AP system has no necessary use to the Classic society. All I see is disadvantages if you spar, PK, or tower. But if you sit and do nothing your only advantage is the ability to not be hurt by a sword.

AP was made to separate those who don't like PK from those who do.

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Posted by BaKon (Post 313525)
Yet another useless update is the Guild Picture approval. I see the improvement it made, but it's ruined the idea of Guild Pictures.

wat..

kenthefruit 03-17-2013 11:54 AM

What I mean by the Guild Picture is if your picture is rejected for some unknown reason. Maybe it's just to show the guild (like tower guilds) something cool or whatever. You have to wait 6 hours just to upload another. And before the approval idea, you could just upload a picture automatically, so if it configures wrong, or you just change it a lot. You can't really do that anymore. I know it's not that big of a deal, but those little updates too are making the game worse by the minute.

iChronic 03-17-2013 12:02 PM

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Posted by Aaron - Taevin (Post 313595)


AP was made to separate those who don't like PK from those who do.


lolwut really? 0.0 :angry: that makes it even more worse..

Crag 03-17-2013 02:40 PM

I actually like/don't mind all of the updates you mentioned but oh well - to each his own I guess.

G Fatal 03-17-2013 02:45 PM

Look on the brightside, they have hat updates :giggle:

MattKan 03-17-2013 02:53 PM

I like AP :(. The way I see it, it lets people who don't want to PK not have to PK. In a way, it is rewarding people for not PKing, but the only way to not get the award of "invincibility" is to insist that you don't want it by killing others. I hate the mentality that if something doesn't benefit *you* outright, then it's a bad update that isn't go for the server. Plus the different nick name colors make the server look nicer—much nicer than the nick names did before.

The staff has already added some ways to tie AP into the game (e.g. getting more AP while at church) and it's likely they will continue to do so as they release more major updates.

Zetectic 03-17-2013 02:55 PM

Ya hate AP thingy
must fix tat baddies and butterflies warp

iHot 03-17-2013 02:57 PM

The only useless updates are hat ones but then again thats every update..

MattKan 03-17-2013 03:12 PM

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Posted by BaKon (Post 313525)
Yet another useless update is the Guild Picture approval. I see the improvement it made, but it's ruined the idea of Guild Pictures. That's all I can think of at this moment, but the main two were the Idling Warp, and AP system.

Don't you realize that the guild picture "update" isn't designed to entertain you? It's designed to, and I'm sure you know this, keep people from uploading vulgar pictures to their guild. While its a bit annoying, I think the pros outway the cons as there were definitely issues with vulgarity, etc. in guild pictures and those issues have ceased. On the bright side, the classic staff usually approve guild pictures in around ten seconds from my experience. Imagine if it took an hour, or even thirty minutes? Isn't the situation a whole lot better than it could be? And how has it ruined the idea of guild pictures? We're your guild pictures inappropriate before? If anything, this update has made people less inclined to fill their guild pictures with random images and designs. Now people actually come up with guild "logos" more often and it's kind of cool.

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Posted by iHot (Post 313651)
The only useless updates are hat ones but then again thats every update..

You have to see the bigger picture. Hats (and advertising them in the news) is how the game pays for itself. I sort of agree that they're a bit useless to me because I'll probably not buy one any time soon, but other people do like them.

There used to be a time on Classic where there truly were no updates, and they actually true to use "hats" as major updates. That time has past; there are definitely many more updates that have been coming out recently. Now that there's many more updates than just hats, we don't have to call the staff out ok trying to push them off as "big updates" because they aren't. Honesty, at this point, if the hats in the news really annoys people as much as it seems, then they're either just looking for something to complain about or jumping on the bandwagon because apparently dissing hats constantly is a "cool" thing.

MrSimons 03-17-2013 04:40 PM

Yeah go ahead and cry about AP cause you can't boost your pks anymore.

Blueh 03-17-2013 04:56 PM

Unless you enjoyed looking at people's (fake) pictures and rating them, I see no reason why you should miss old the old guild pic upload system.

PennyShine 03-17-2013 05:55 PM

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Posted by BaKon (Post 313525)
The first major update that come to mind that has ruined Classic is the idling warp. You can't even sit outside for 10 minutes without being warped to an unwanted area.

So you want more codeshop/maze scammers, single guys, and kik pedos in Graal City?
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Posted by BaKon (Post 313525)
Another terrible update is the Alignment Point system. The AP system has no necessary use to the Classic society. All I see is disadvantages if you spar, PK, or tower. But if you sit and do nothing your only advantage is the ability to not be hurt by a sword.

AP gives people a choice whether they want to pk or not. For pkers, it makes it so people can't run out at .5 health and use pots to heal instantly. That fixes the problem with pkers who are too scared to get killed. And for people who don't wanna pk, they get invincibility to swords. Most people don't use arrows and bombs for pking anyway unless they're boosting. You don't have to do nothing to get saint. Do something other than pking. Catch bugs. Talk to people. Farm. Buy stuff. Do Pyrat Quest (bonus points for this one: you gain AP much faster as long as you don't kill anyone!) There's more to Graal than pking.
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Posted by BaKon (Post 313525)
Yet another useless update is the Guild Picture approval. I see the improvement it made, but it's ruined the idea of Guild Pictures. That's all I can think of at this moment, but the main two were the Idling Warp, and AP system.

How did it ruin the idea of guild pictures? If anything, it helped.

In short, these are all good updates. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's a terrible update. You try pleasing 1800+ people and then get back to me. Just look on the bright side. The new tileset is released which is much better than the old one, and bugs are back.

Dusty 03-17-2013 11:19 PM

Why do you care if you can't heal from PKing? It's not like deaths are a published stat. There is absolutely no punishment for dying, you even respawn at the same spot you died.

Darklink 03-17-2013 11:35 PM

I've honestly not changed my guild pic for months, so idc about that one
AP is kinda stupid pointless and annoying, but it reminds you to pk (if you pk)
As for idol warp, who cares? Just don't sit still for 10 minutes and you'll be fine

Aaron 03-17-2013 11:42 PM

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Posted by PennyShine (Post 313716)
So you want more codeshop/maze scammers, single guys, and kik pedos in Graal City?

Most people don't use arrows and bombs for pking anyway unless they're boosting.

You must not PK, right?

iChronic 03-18-2013 04:13 AM

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Posted by MattKan (Post 313648)
The staff has already added some ways to tie AP into the game (e.g. getting more AP while at church) and it's likely they will continue to do so as they release more major updates.

took me 2 days to become saint, true story. 2 days.

Blueh 03-18-2013 04:20 AM

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Posted by iChronic (Post 314092)
took me 2 days to become saint, true story. 2 days.

In any game that offers duality, it's always easier to be the bad guy. Yet, it always pays off to be the good guy. Whether that be a better ending, better gear, or whatever. In this case, being a baddy is much easier than being a saint. I'm not sure why people say AP is unfair. What you said was true, it's a lot harder to become a saint. And once you do, you can't make a single mistake otherwise you'll have to wait a while again. Throwing a bush at someone dropped me down to 77 before. It was NOT fun at all.

iChronic 03-18-2013 04:31 AM

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Posted by Blueh (Post 314097)
Throwing a bush at someone dropped me down to 77 before. It was NOT fun at all.

ya I hate that. They should've have made a "3 strike" system so that AP only go down after 3 kills not one............

Furryamigo 03-18-2013 05:14 AM

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Posted by iChronic (Post 314102)
ya I hate that. They should've have made a "3 strike" system so that AP only go down after 3 kills not one............

But then you would be an invincible killing machine.

twilit 03-18-2013 05:26 AM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 313894)
Why do you care if you can't heal from PKing? It's not like deaths are a published stat.

*fixed.
phew you almost drove a stake through me until i realized what you meant

iChronic 03-18-2013 05:40 AM

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Posted by Furryamigo (Post 314117)
But then you would be an invincible killing machine.

no I mean if your AP was around 70..and im pretty sure that when you're a saint you cant hit anyone..

Dusty 03-18-2013 06:44 AM

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Posted by twilit (Post 314126)
*fixed.
phew you almost drove a stake through me until i realized what you meant

Oh, ya my mistake.

Ryan 03-18-2013 07:50 AM

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Posted by iChronic (Post 314092)
took me 2 days to become saint, true story. 2 days.

Last time i tried it took me 2 weeks

Crono 03-18-2013 11:48 PM

not being able to see the purpose of the ap system is pretty ******ed. morons.

Revo* 03-19-2013 12:52 AM

I don't recall a good update

kenthefruit 03-19-2013 03:22 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 313691)
Yeah go ahead and cry about AP cause you can't boost your pks anymore.

I have like 5000 pks... Lol.

Aaron 03-19-2013 03:25 AM

these forums are more fun than the game itself

iHot 03-19-2013 03:26 AM

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Posted by Aaron - Taevin (Post 314577)
these forums are more fun than the game itself

Agreed haven't played Graal in days.

kenthefruit 03-19-2013 03:27 AM

I'm not saying AP is bad, I just don't care for it. AP causes you to choose between Towering/PKing, or having the benefits of being a Saint. So really, your missing out on activities you normally can do, so either you don't tower, or do.

Dusty 03-19-2013 03:32 AM

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Posted by BaKon (Post 314580)
I'm not saying AP is bad, I just don't care for it. AP causes you to choose between Towering/PKing, or having the benefits of being a Saint. So really, your missing out on activities you normally can do, so either you don't tower, or do.

Why would you be interested in being a saint if you want to tower/pk?

Smoke 03-19-2013 03:32 AM

Well the way I see AP is that of :

0- like it being a Pkr the ability of those being Pk'd by you not being able to run to an orb and heal and seeing how for some it feels like forever to obtain 100 AP would choose to pk instead adding more players to Pk

100- when you're just a chill graalian, role-player were an annoying Pkr wouldn't follow you if you had low health in order to obtain your kill, or wanting to go buy a new released item in Onnet town without being killed in the massive Pk going outside the shop

kenthefruit 03-19-2013 03:35 AM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 314583)
Why would you be interested in being a saint if you want to tower/pk?

Why wouldn't you want to Tower? I bet a lot of players stopped Towering and PKing because of AP.

Smoke 03-19-2013 03:38 AM

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Posted by BaKon (Post 314589)
Why wouldn't you want to Tower? I bet a lot of players stopped Towering and PKing because of AP.

Untrue, a lot didn't like to tower before AP. There has actually been little to no change in that.

Dusty 03-19-2013 04:22 AM

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Posted by BaKon (Post 314589)
Why wouldn't you want to Tower? I bet a lot of players stopped Towering and PKing because of AP.

No, I said why would you be interested in being a saint if you like PKing and towers? The only benefit to being a saint is not being hurt by swords, it's for pacifist players. If you enjoy the PKing/Tower side of Graal then I see no reason you'd ever bother with trying to get Saint.

Aaron 03-19-2013 04:48 AM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 314619)
No, I said why would you be interested in being a saint if you like PKing and towers? The only benefit to being a saint is not being hurt by swords, it's for pacifist players. If you enjoy the PKing/Tower side of Graal then I see no reason you'd ever bother with trying to get Saint.

We do it for the $w@g

NYN 03-19-2013 07:33 AM

I think the coolest thing about the AP thing is it really really diminishes people's thoughts of 100 AP/gold names being OMGSOAWESOME! It's much better to be in a world where the new people aren't as obsessed with staff members.

Chez 03-19-2013 01:33 PM

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Posted by NYN (Post 314691)
I think the coolest thing about the AP thing is it really really diminishes people's thoughts of 100 AP/gold names being OMGSOAWESOME! It's much better to be in a world where the new people aren't as obsessed with staff members.

Lol I never thought players were obsessed with gold names

Tyler 03-19-2013 02:40 PM

At first I liked the AP update. Now I just find it plain useless and annoying. Especially not being able to heal with super low AP. I know people uploaded bad guild pictures, but honestly I hate waiting 30 minutes to choose another guild picture if I don't like the one I just uploaded. Is it me or is the quality of the image also reduced when you upload now? It looks a little choppy when I zoom in and upload. The idling warp I also agree with. Graal City wasn't that terribly laggy. Maybe by Burger Refuge and that's it. I haven't been a fan of the recent updates.

Chez 03-19-2013 07:41 PM

I don't see a problem with having the AP system. The warping however I agree with.

kenthefruit 03-20-2013 11:45 PM

There isn't an issue, but it's just useless.

Vladamir Blackthorne 03-21-2013 01:30 AM

Even though it's never really my problem, the warping sounds pretty stupid. At first it was kinda annoying when there was just one fixed unstickme location, but getting warped to a random location across the map because you're sitting there chillin' and sending pms is just dumb.

PennyShine 03-21-2013 02:29 AM

I actually kinda want the fixed unstick me point back. Sometimes it gets me farther from where I want to go than I would've been if I just walked

Dusty 03-21-2013 03:18 AM

Surprisingly, 'unstick me' isn't a intended to be a method of transportation.

twilit 03-21-2013 04:34 AM

(blah not gonna find a quote to specifically fit this response) but

its ridiculous. there are kids who are in tower guilds and try hard to KEEP their 95-100AP. If youre going to defend a tower, you dont need it.


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