Making everything droppable
 

I know this thread has took its toll about 100 times, but I think this is the most reasonable way to shut up the complains.

Jester- I know you posted this thread but I love this idea.

First of all: what determines if something should be droppable or not? The clover comes out, its droppable, next the hells axe or whatever its called isn't... Wtf

When trading, people say super rares or whatever you wanna call them, the only way to get them is to ruin your reputation/friendship and scam someone or buy gralat packs and bid in an un-civilized auction which is nothing like a real auction, if everything was droppable people could drop guns like say a thompson and get a hammer for it, not only people would PAY REAL MONEY for auction money in order to get the "super rare" they would also be PAYING REAL MONEY for guns to trade for them.

Graal gains money
Players lose, yet benifit from their loss.

PLEASE DO NOT DELETE THREAD

There's ups and downs about dropping guns. I personally would love trading off guns with my brother and such, but that's the problem. If Graal wants more money, it wouldn't benefit them if people were ACTUALLY trading the guns because a player would get it without spending real money.

There's ups and downs about dropping guns. I personally would love trading off guns with my brother and such, but that's the problem. If Graal wants more money, it wouldn't benefit them if people were ACTUALLY trading the guns because a player would get it without spending real money.

I've said this over and over again; trade system for droppable items only. All it does is stop scam, it doesn't affect our "economy."

Couldn't agree more, I still don't know why they refuse to even implement this.

All droppable or nothing droppable.

Well, when a player scams another, it's creating a minor priority for economy, what is it you ask?
At first, we wouldn't need anything droppable due to players stop buying sold items. Another thought has came in mind is doing 'certain' items droppable just for the cause of 'gifting' certain items to friends.
Scamming is supposed to be illegal, but due to 1000+ players and 2000-3000 drops a day, the log (if we had any) would not be able to locate everything done, and staff does not have enough time to check the real/fake complaints about each player scammed, so we considered it legal.
Why don't we want an trading system? Since scamming is legal, it will detain the player from trading (making him scared somehow), which will obviously remove the fact that it could be traded/dropped to anyone ~ which, in the end, will make the other player obligated to buy/earn the item.
Having a trading system makes the player relaxed that he can actually trade or buy the item from/to anyone. Which makes him relieved from earning it.

This concludes this whole reason why a trading system and having all items droppables is a bad idea.

I prefer to make nothing droppable. It was meant for gifting at first, but now nobody gifts, instead, they trade or demand repayment

Yes please. I played Era for a bit, but it's no fun considering one of the biggest mechanics in the game is based on deceit and lies. It was very frustrating getting scammed for the first time for one of my rares; not getting scammed is so hard it's ridiculous.

Yes please make everything droppable

Please make everything dropable even guns please SNK



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we are making a trade table- no guns though

It's easy not to get scammed; just don't trade.

A trade table?

As in a system for droppables only

Pls make event items tradable

If guns were droppable it would cost Stefan and unixmad money because people will start giving away guns they don't need or they quit.

Drop systems are way more open to abuse than regular trade systems are, it's bizarre to have one system but not the other.

iEra's best course of action would be to replace it with a trade system for 'droppable' items, and then disable the drop system altogether.

Pros:

• Allows staff to properly log player-to-player transfers, with extensive logging they could trace an item back to it's origin and makes items easier to restore.
• Establishes a trustworthy middle-man (the server) to ensure the trade goes smoothly.
• By using the same 'droppable' flag with the trade system they still maintain the same amount of control over items.
• Staff could actually make the system profitable by establishing trade fees.
• Trade fee idea: Staff could implement a 'trade token' instead of allowing trading of gralats. 1 Trade Token could be bought for 120 gralats and converted back into 100 gralats after being traded so staff are still making a good percentage.
• Should significantly reduce the scamming problem and the toxic effect it has on the playercount.

i like your ideas, this would actually work...
lets see if it would actually happen

Will this include non-droppable melees?

Possibly

Like hunter knives and light sabers?

I see where you are going with this... But how long do you think this will take, there ae many things you need to worry about, such as

/new account, /achievements, /trade throwing knives with other account

And another thing is maybe a test with 10 minutes of it in case its a rampage at the start...

Make it for ec items too! :D

Please don't.

I was referring to non EC items, like Ice Dagger and Snowy Shrub. They are old melees that would be quite rare if they were allowed to be traded.

Ya ya know, a table where you place melees, kick him, and take their melees

Public place, once you place items into boxes, they are still yours, once both graalians press agree you trade

dont allow ec items to be traded.

Rough http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/...647369cb68.jpg

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awesome detail

wtf

simply drag the item you are trading in the box, and press accept?
also make like a little conversation box so the traders can talk about the trade

Thank baby Jesus :love:

Hopefully this will actually be done and not put in the same priority group as Ninjatown. Era has needed a trade system since the beginning, and now with all the scamming more then ever.

Make sure there are multiple boxes so it's not just 1 item for 1 item. If you are trading supers it's usually trading multiples like skate, skull juggle, super fart, taser for purple umbrella.

If you could also add the option to trade gralats it would be extremely useful as well, would take out the reason to shell max glitch(holding more then 1k shells) and would add so much to the trading system.

Here is WoWs trade menu, would like to see it similar to this:
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l1...808_135253.jpg

Very glad to officially hear that a trade table will be implemented. Could have used it months sooner but glad to see progress.

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Big thanks to eric for making another god damn trade thread

Why don't you want to trade ec items in the trade table? The players who are good at events can trade their ec items for superrares or other things with players who aren't good at events.
+ The guy who's good at events gets a chance to get auctioned items, etc.
+ The guy who's not good gets a chance to trade his items for an event item.
+ Also, you can maybe donate an ec item for your friend's birthday :)
I don't see why some of you don't like the idea of event items being traded.

Rare guns such as Souzien, Pink M4, Gold Uzis, pl0x.

Good Idea
some people wonder why quit when losin a pixelated item
truth it that if u spend idk a week getting shells and you keep doing it for like idk a month then you finally work your way up to a great super and then thats it boom scam so like you have lost hours of your life to a game


yesterday some girl 50 hrs and 200 kills won a new super rare trashpick after the auction finished there were a bunch of people outside auction sayin weres that noob lets scammer ......... so lemme cut the crap TRADE STYSTEM

Super yes.

Guns that are not availiable in stores do not ruin the economy since you do not pay gralat packs for them. (sometimes auctions) Good thinking


I will be working on a trade system to add onto this thread, wait and see.

Even on PC there is a trade system, yet they still do drop trades, each graalians thinks they are going to scam the other one.

http://imgur.com/Lb5PE6y ye it suxs haha

Negotiate, nice idea!

This question isn't just directed at you. Why would you work to get a "super rare" that you've always wanted then trade it off immediately with the risk of losing it?

Should disable being able to drop shells, trash etc - theres no reason players should be able to 'trade' gralats to each other hmm?

Make sure that we can also gift people? I wouldn't mind, if gun trading was possible, giving the guns I don't even use to new players :P

Being able to drop items WAS gifting, players turned it into trading.
Guns will never be allowed to be traded between other people.

pl0x?

The idea about being able to trade money might be sort of successful. It would mean more people would get gralat packs so they can trade for items.

You work or spend your own money for gralats, you should be able to exchange them with other people to your liking. The whole thing about the *economy* getting ruined is complete BS. If anything it will boost pack sales(all Stefan cares about) so no issues there.

Most of the oldbie staff who actually played PC Era know all about how the economy is very easily destroyed by trading monies and stuffs

^this.

I hope snk makes it like the following:

1) No trade on EC items, as these are earned items
2) No trade guns, obvious
3) Transaction fee per trade
4) Only trade current droppable items unless we want to disable shells/etc

Regarding the Auction items some being droppable and some not, I think the current way we have it is...the creator of said item decides whether or not it will be droppable. I think this needs to be changed (either all auction items droppable or none at all?)