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Tashkin 04-22-2013 03:45 AM

Which one would you choose?
 
Hello everyone, we would like to know what you want to see added to Zone iPhone. I am making this poll with a list of different things. Please choose the one you all would like to see added the most. These will not be event team or GP hosted. These will be actual additions to the server.


Any ideas you have that are not on this list please post below. Lets try and keep the spam to a minimum on this topic please.

Remorse 04-22-2013 03:47 AM

there's no poll lols

Tashkin 04-22-2013 03:49 AM

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Posted by Remorse (Post 335997)
there's no poll lols

Made me add it after the post for some reason.

Rockson 04-22-2013 04:00 AM

You need to make another version of showdown but for teams too hold. Like 5 people max to attack a squad with a max of 5 people to defend. Makes a planet for skilled players to hold and not just people with the highest numbers!

Remorse 04-22-2013 04:01 AM

horde mode all the way!

poorface 04-22-2013 04:11 AM

I think your first focus should be balancing money making and prices. I stopped playing because it took me an hour or two of playing and winning showdown practically nonstop to get 3000, but everything new costs on the higher range of 4000-10000

Tashkin 04-22-2013 04:21 AM

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Posted by poorface (Post 336013)
I think your first focus should be balancing money making and prices. I stopped playing because it took me an hour or two of playing and winning showdown practically nonstop to get 3000, but everything new costs on the higher range of 4000-10000

That we are still talking to Stefan about. We want to increase the amount earned. We have wanted to increase it for a while and I think we can get it changed.

Meph 04-22-2013 04:49 AM

Other- Squad improvement; Point system; Basing Planet
A real ‘points system’ to measure and showcase squad competition should be implemented. Unfortunately, The flaws in ‘timed takeover’ that take dominance in iEra’s gang systems are already shining through on iZone. Squads can take over a planet during server downtime, and gain hours with little opposition. First and foremost, This seriously needs to be doctored up before making any additions to Squad activity. If the proposed basing system is implemented without it, it would mirror iEra’s tactless system where guilds merely idle in a base during inactive hours and rack up points; which doesn't test any level of skill at all-- It favors quantity to quality; and perhaps even geographical location.

Points rewarded for time should be minimal, and include the added perquisite of contest. By this, I mean that squads must be within a reasonable PAR of each other in order to get 'time points' in a face off, and they must have an adequate amount members online to provide contest. I would suggest that, the gangs must be within five tiers of each other for 'time' points to be counted. Meaning, the #1 Squad couldn't gain time points against the #6 Squad; however, kills and deaths would still be counted, this way lower tier squads could still have a chance to come up, and the game can take place without discrimination. Kills would add points, deaths would subtract points.

Also, the addition of a real "Basing" planet, including a full PK gmap, and Five "Bases" that are awarded to the top 5 Squads of the week. These bases are considered Squad territory, and therefore should be protected. Again, squad points would be awarded for kills, and subtracted for deaths. This again would reinforce that leaders be more selective when adding members.

This would also invite the suggestion of base "upgrades"-- A central location on the new planet where Squad leaders can purchase upgrades with their accumulated squad points. This would force leaders to take more of a responsibility role, as the sole proprietor of the entire squad's hard work. Such a system would give squads reward for kicking ass. Examples of upgrades would be turrets, larger bases, maybe even a squad gun or bot upgrade(limited distribution; again, at the discretion on the Squad Leader). Of course, upgrades would need to be regulated to where they're not overpowered. It'd be a step backwards to make the rich richer. Of course, squads would lose their base if they cannot maintain that top five; but hey- competition brings players.

Squad alliances would be possible. To act as a check-and balance to prevent a powerhouse of squads aligning with one-another, the point distribution system would discourage frivolous alliances. i.e. A victory by a single squad (three members from the same squad) would mean 15 points for that squad, however a victory by three combined squads(three members, each from a different squad) would mean 5 points per squad.

While the plan is to create more emphasis on leadership and ‘skill’ to stimulate competition, it’s not to be misunderstood as newbie discrimination, but as a means that would enourage them to improve their game. By nature, this system will create a hierarchy of squads. Newbies will form newbie squads, battle other newbie squads, and eventually graduate to the upper-tier. This gives newbies something more to shoot for.

This kind of system would give real Squads the clout they deserve. It's a system I've been wanting to see implemented on Era, and iEra for the past six years. Most people didn't play Era back when gang loyalty meant something, and leaders were forced to lead. It cringes me to see the same bad habits that have plagued both servers for so long emulated to Zone Squads. Nip it in the bud now. Any group of nitwits can melee a chest or sit at a capture point; winning sheerly on their superior number. The hell with the chests and capture points; Do it up old school-- Give virtuous squads a base, force leaders to lead, and call it a day. Nothing says "my squad's better than yours" than idling in your living room, PKing your squad upon entry.

The Doctor 04-22-2013 05:03 AM

I'm with lowering the price and balancing the gameplay.

Tashkin 04-22-2013 05:21 AM

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Posted by Meph (Post 336031)
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I would like to see this implemented on iZone. Hopefully once we find more Scripters to work on the server we can start to implement most of this. Thank you for your input. :)

Rockson 04-22-2013 05:36 AM

I tried scripting on iZone but I literally got NO power. I couldn't even add a script to the server or upload a level I made with scripts on it. That is a large reason to why I didn't want to work on iZone. Not sure how you can work without being able to have a place to add scripts. That was Matt, I'm not sure with Tashkin. It's not easy to script with literally the power to walk around only.

Shmegg 04-22-2013 06:59 AM

I would really love to see Hunger Games added into the server. :) Although, would you mind explaining to me what "Forever Death Match" is? :s

Keeluah 04-22-2013 07:02 AM

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Posted by Shmegg (Post 336080)
I would really love to see Hunger Games added into the server. :) Although, would you mind explaining to me what "Forever Death Match" is? :s

Basically it two teams pking each other 24/7, people may join and leave the forever deathmatch anytime they want.

Tashkin 04-22-2013 09:16 AM

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Posted by Rockson (Post 336062)
I tried scripting on iZone but I literally got NO power. I couldn't even add a script to the server or upload a level I made with scripts on it. That is a large reason to why I didn't want to work on iZone. Not sure how you can work without being able to have a place to add scripts. That was Matt, I'm not sure with Tashkin. It's not easy to script with literally the power to walk around only.

All scripting gets done on the dev server before either PD, Stefan, or myself move it to main. Mostly just in case something gets messed up. I guess Security reasons as well. However, you would be able to develop pretty freely on the dev server.

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Posted by Killua* (Post 336082)
Basically it two teams pking each other 24/7, people may join and leave the forever deathmatch anytime they want.

This except it's more like Free For All. However, we could do both TDM and FFA. You would be able to enter and play it any time you want instead of having to wait for a timer. If you die you would get warped out, but you can just re-enter right away.

Ryan 04-22-2013 09:22 AM

I'd like to see the Protect the VIP added. Also 2 questions:
1. Will more missions be added?
2. Will there be more planets?

Tashkin 04-22-2013 09:31 AM

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Posted by Ryan (Post 336107)
I'd like to see the Protect the VIP added. Also 2 questions:
1. Will more missions be added?
2. Will there be more planets?

We are working on some new missions yes. Plan to add another planet, but that wont be until we get about 3-4 new things finished. We don't want a planet with just one thing on it.

Ryan 04-22-2013 10:44 AM

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Posted by Tashkin (Post 336110)
We are working on some new missions yes. Plan to add another planet, but that wont be until we get about 3-4 new things finished. We don't want a planet with just one thing on it.

I mainly would want missions like new ones of harder versions of missions

G Fatal 04-22-2013 10:57 AM

missions are pointless when the returns are soooo low and levels don't mean much ingame... I'd like to see domination maps/system scrapped all together for something new like one of these ideas as long as it means 1person can win 2/3/4 if gd enough.

Also make PK Arena allow bounty so we can earn money from killing there

Platinum 04-22-2013 11:04 AM

Talking about money, I don't earn money from showdown.
Explain.

G Fatal 04-22-2013 11:44 AM

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Posted by Platinum (Post 336128)
Talking about money, I don't earn money from showdown.
Explain.

Money is easy to earn in showdown, if good lol you get cash for players bounty(when you kill them) and get cash for winning showdown.

fUnK 04-22-2013 11:48 AM

This is kind of dumb. Your only letting the people who have a Graalians account vote, when half of the zone population doesn't look on this website :0 so what if nobody wants this -.-

Rockson 04-22-2013 12:40 PM

Tashkin, Matt didn't take my rights off the dev server lol. If you don't mind, I'll see if I can make stuff for you in my free time.

Platinum 04-22-2013 01:03 PM

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Posted by Gricey (Post 336133)
Money is easy to earn in showdown, if good lol you get cash for players bounty(when you kill them) and get cash for winning showdown.

Don't you get money from winning it though (I don't much >.< but when I first won I got like 250 gralats)

G Fatal 04-22-2013 01:10 PM

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Posted by Platinum (Post 336144)
Don't you get money from winning it though (I don't much >.< but when I first won I got like 250 gralats)

Yeah you do but I think the money depends on how many players are playing in that round ithink, not really sure never really look at how much im earning each round lol

PumaD 04-22-2013 01:46 PM

BUG.. errr Alien-Catching!

Shiz 04-22-2013 01:56 PM

Prince! Shhh!

Rockson 04-22-2013 02:12 PM

I don't think you get any money for winning showdown. The money you get depends on the bounties of the people you kill.

Keeluah 04-22-2013 02:39 PM

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Posted by Tashkin (Post 336104)
This except it's more like Free For All. However, we could do both TDM and FFA. You would be able to enter and play it any time you want instead of having to wait for a timer. If you die you would get warped out, but you can just re-enter right away.

Well technically the PK Arena is already a FFA death match, aside from the fact that people in the same squad can't hurt each other. The PK Arena is already dead and is only used when Rambo is hosted.

Infernus Lapse 04-22-2013 06:13 PM

I think you should make a story questline.

The promo for iZone with the whole baddy war raging on into the future really got me interested in iZone when it was put out, and made me curious. The fact noone has brought this up more is a bit odd to me, considering I've seen people admit the same. You'd probably make iZone alot more appealing to other players, and even get onto iDelteria's style of play in some ways. Tons of people would be willing to contribute, I'm sure. No other iOS server has a storyline yet, and giving iZone one first would keep it alive for months, maybe even years, more than it would if you never even implemented one.

Just to start you guys off should you take my idea, heres some questions I have about iZone you could tackle with a story.
1. What are these aliens? Why are they at war with the Graalians and what is their connection to the baddies?

2. What is the story behind all these planets, what governments are at war?

3. Who are the leaders behind each faction?

4. Why did the war between baddies and Graalians continue this long into the future? How have the baddies harmed us further to keep us at war with them for hundreds of thousands of years?

5. Why would the people of the future want to send us to their time from all the way back in era and classic, where most people have less fighting experience?

I think thats a good starting point on how to start off a good storyline for iZone, if any staff read this and would like to implement it, I thank you for reading and am honored to be possibly inspiring you.

NicoX 04-22-2013 07:05 PM

Why there are only Events in the poll? Seems like you are focussing on Events like Matt.
Work on real content, Events wont help Zone in any way. Its just a temp solution.

New tileset is a MUST.
Not sure if Stefan is fine with custom chars, but would be awesome.

The classes needs balancements, maybe add 1-2 more.

and and and.

Tashkin 04-22-2013 08:32 PM

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Posted by NicoX (Post 336265)
Why there are only Events in the poll? Seems like you are focussing on Events like Matt.
Work on real content, Events wont help Zone in any way. Its just a temp solution.

New tileset is a MUST.
Not sure if Stefan is fine with custom chars, but would be awesome.

The classes needs balancements, maybe add 1-2 more.

and and and.

This are a list of recommendations from the players in game. There is also #9, but you obviously missed it. There are some things that weren't added on here that are already getting done. Don't assume if you don't know please.

NicoX 04-22-2013 08:36 PM

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Posted by Tashkin (Post 336298)
This are a list of recommendations from the players in game. There is also #9, but you obviously missed it. There are some things that weren't added on here that are already getting done. Don't assume if you don't know please.

I voted for #9 (others) dont worry.
And dont worry about my knowledge about Zone, Im being informed daily.

It is just wrong to focus on Events, even if Player suggest it.
99% of the forum members here are trolls and smart asses anyway.
Everything in the list except #9 is event based, thats not real content.

But well, good luck with it.

poorface 04-22-2013 10:48 PM

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Posted by Gricey (Post 336133)
Money is easy to earn in showdown, if good lol you get cash for players bounty(when you kill them) and get cash for winning showdown.

Yeah, except the bounties suck if you've been winning a few times in a row

Nobodypoor 04-22-2013 10:50 PM

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Posted by poorface (Post 336358)
Yeah, except the bounties suck if you've been winning a few times in a row

wont the winning bonus make up for that?

Shiz 04-22-2013 11:04 PM

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Posted by NicoX (Post 336265)
Why there are only Events in the poll? Seems like you are focussing on Events like Matt.
Work on real content, Events wont help Zone in any way. Its just a temp solution.

New tileset is a MUST.
Not sure if Stefan is fine with custom chars, but would be awesome.

The classes needs balancements, maybe add 1-2 more.

and and and.

We are working on a new tileset? You act like we can just *snap* our fingers and wahlah, a new tileset.

NicoX 04-22-2013 11:08 PM

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Posted by ShizGodsu (Post 336363)
We are working on a new tileset? You act like we can just *snap* our fingers and wahlah, a new tileset.

This is the excuse I hear since 2 months tbh.

Flara 04-22-2013 11:27 PM

Here is my question, will hunger games (graal) be like showdown, only you have no ammo at start? Or is it on a whole new level?(AKA: is the hunger games like you have to get the guns from the center?)

Platinum 04-23-2013 12:00 AM

To everybody saying there are too event based:
Tashkin can decide to make it a squad event, although the Hunger Games seems to be popular. I'm guessing it will be like showdown, you won't need a PvP coin for it, and even though Tashkin may have said event (I'm so lazy to check XP), I don't think he meant admin event.

Meph 04-23-2013 12:26 AM

I make decent money in showdown- roughly 1.2k an hour for PKing isn't bad at all.
I don't consider PKing to be work; I do it for the fun. The money is a perk.

Lord* 04-23-2013 12:38 AM

Also, none of these are "events" hosted by staff, more of a minigme like showdown. You will either earn gralats or squad hours.

Tashkin 04-23-2013 01:52 AM

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Posted by Lord* (Post 336441)
Also, none of these are "events" hosted by staff.

As for the Hunger Games (Graal) it will be more like the movie. Players will start out with nothing and sponsors will help them through the game. Atleast, that is how Matt had it planned. Players will earn Gralats and possibly other prizes from doing this. The other prizes part hasn't been discussed yet.

Platinum 04-23-2013 02:18 AM

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Posted by Tashkin (Post 336484)
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As for the Hunger Games (Graal) it will be more like the movie. Players will start out with nothing and sponsors will help them through the game. Atleast, that is how Matt had it planned. Players will earn Gralats and possibly other prizes from doing this. The other prizes part hasn't been discussed yet.

Why did you poll it if you had it planned?

Remorse 04-23-2013 02:20 AM

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Posted by Tashkin (Post 335996)
Hello everyone, we would like to know what you want to see added to Zone iPhone. I am making this poll with a list of different things. Please choose the one you all would like to see added the MOST. These will not be event team or GP hosted. These will be actual additions to the server.


Any ideas you have that are not on this list please post below. Lets try and keep the spam to a minimum on this topic please.


Rotaruc 04-23-2013 03:29 AM

I would like leaderboards for showdown, squad spar, 5v5 squad spar, & survival (survive the horde) to be added b4 anything. This would increase the amount of players doing ss and sd (squad spar & showdowns). Another way to improve planeting on zone would be for leaders of squads to have the option to allow randoms to join their side :o like a squad only join option & an anyone can join option. randoms just make the planet system unfair because the favored squad with the most people always wins :/ if it was just squad V squad i would like it more. we also need to make pvp tokens purchaseable or more frequently spawned in missions because i did 5 missions and got 1 token ...... like? are you trying to lose players? Lol.

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Posted by NicoX (Post 336365)
This is the excuse I hear since 2 months tbh.

Nico please stfu.

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Posted by Tashkin (Post 335996)
Hello everyone, we would like to know what you want to see added to Zone iPhone. I am making this poll with a list of different things.

Who thought of survive the horde btw? just wonderin.

Tashkin 04-23-2013 03:48 AM

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Posted by Rotaruc (Post 336541)
Who thought of survive the horde btw? just wonderin.

I believe one of the staff members actually brought it up.

Rotaruc 04-23-2013 06:34 AM

was it lord? :3

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Posted by Platinum (Post 336498)
Why did you poll it if you had it planned?

and you thinks that they would just think of a name for it & not plan on what it should be about? x.x that would be shizztical.

fUnK 04-23-2013 03:30 PM

How long will this thing last lol because if I remember, hunger games in the movie lasted a few days :p

Meph 04-23-2013 06:23 PM

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Posted by Rotaruc (Post 336541)
I would like leaderboards for showdown

Agreed, Roty.
More showdown arenas would be a nice addition as well; with either random selection, or voted by the participants every round.

"Team Showdown" would be neat too; as an ET event. The same concept as Showdown, except players are evenly and randomly divided into two teams, in two different spawn points. After the number of participants is down to about 3, it turns into a regular showdown between those three.

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Posted by Platinum (Post 336498)
Why did you poll it if you had it planned?

To prioritize his projects around popular demand.

For example, "Attack and Defend" is not receiving any votes; so it's likely not going to be on the development itinerary until the other projects are nearing completion.

I'd wager that, in the grand scheme of things, Tashkin plans on getting all of these activities out to the public; else he wouldn't have even labeled them. He's polling to gauge what activities are more pressing, and which ones can be put off to a later date. He's also included the option of open suggestion; in the event that --like in my case-- the players can present an idea that hasn't yet been addressed.

Tashkin 04-23-2013 08:19 PM

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Posted by Meph (Post 336876)
To prioritize his projects around popular demand.

For example, "Attack and Defend" is not receiving any votes; so it's likely not going to be on the development itinerary until the other projects are nearing completion.

I'd wager that, in the grand scheme of things, Tashkin plans on getting all of these activities out to the public; else he wouldn't have even labeled them. He's polling to gauge what activities are more pressing, and which ones can be put off to a later date. He's also included the option of open suggestion; in the event that --like in my case-- the players can present an idea that hasn't yet been addressed.

This

Rotaruc 04-24-2013 05:30 AM

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Posted by Meph (Post 336876)
Agreed, Roty.
More showdown arenas would be a nice addition as well; with either random selection, or voted by the participants every round.

"Team Showdown" would be neat too; as an ET event. The same concept as Showdown, except players are evenly and randomly divided into two teams, in two different spawn points. After the number of participants is down to about 3, it turns into a regular showdown between those three.


This :3

..... and i still dont get the hunger games thing lol ..... please dont tell me i get teamed up with a 9 year old girl in this.


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