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Vladamir Blackthorne 06-20-2013 08:05 PM

Street Fighting
 
The fists literally the most pointless weapon in the game. You start with them, but you also start with a much better melee. They deal the least possible damage... Well, I have an idea. Instead of dealing health damage, implement a second "health" bar, a blue colored one. This, my fellow graalians, would be the stamina bar. Now, me go into detail about reworking the fists. Instead of the normal second stick fire button, there could be 3 buttons: punch, kick, and headbutt. Punching deals roughly 10 out of 50 stamina damage. However, it takes away 5 of your own stamina. Kicking deals around 15 and you lose 10 stamina. Headbutting deals a lot of stamina damage, around 20. But you lose 15 stamina, and upon a successful you damage yourself for another 5. All but the headbutt cannot bring yourself down to 0 stamina, only going as far as 15, so you should plan you moves carefully and not headbutt too much! The logic behind having 3 different moves is to make it less of a spam-fest and actually incorporate the necessity of strategy. Upon losing all your stamina, you get K.O.'d for 10(yes, 10. You're freaking knocked out, you shouldn't be able to get up a few seconds right after getting the living daylights beat out of ya!) seconds, and you "drop"(not from your inventory!) some gralats and a occasionally a nice stack of grenades or healing items. On rare occasions, quite a bit of gralats could be dropped, around the 500-750 range. This would give people the incentive to actually make use of this system. Every second when knocked out, you bleed for 2 damage. Now here is a sorta "optional" part of the suggestion: rework the starter knife into a new, fully gani'd switchblade. It could deal the usual 2 damage, but it could also deal 10 stamina damage and take away 5 per swing like a punch, as well as coming with the kicking and headbutting, so you could use it to K.O. someone with the intention of them taking bleedout damage. Also, upon being K.O.'d by a knife, you take 3 damage/second rather than the usual 2.

Oh, and of course stamina would slowly regenerate, maybe like one or two points per second.


And maybe there could be an area implemented where players are restricted to fists, so they can safely and consistently duke it out without having to worry about getting gunned down :)

Vladamir Blackthorne 06-20-2013 10:06 PM

A good idea never gets recognized if everyone is just "TL;DR" and moves along. I know this idea is big, but it'd be nice if one of the 11 people that viewed this so far actually took the time to give feedback...

3X 06-20-2013 10:22 PM

Its a good idea lol.. so much math in there i didnt read most of it. Its more like ninja moves than street fighting xD

Ramaz Adelphos 06-20-2013 10:24 PM

Allow me :). I love this idea! Insteading of just boring Pking you can do this which is more fun and unique. Great idea man very well thought out. I would give rep but I have no idea how to so ill just say it lol +Rep

Vladamir Blackthorne 06-20-2013 10:31 PM

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Posted by Ramaz Adelphos (Post 372607)
Allow me :). I love this idea! Insteading of just boring Pking you can do this which is more fun and unique. Great idea man very well thought out. I would give rep but I have no idea how to so ill just say it lol +Rep

Click the little heart on someone's post to give rep ;)

Ghettoicedtea 06-21-2013 04:41 PM

Or buy brass knuckles and have improved fist damage

Vladamir Blackthorne 06-21-2013 05:44 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 373125)
Or buy brass knuckles and have improved fist damage

Well, I sorta want everyone to be equal in terms of power in this.

Ghettoicedtea 06-23-2013 07:58 PM

theres one problem with this though, the main problem is that everyone in era will own a gun, so if one person starts beating the crap out of someone else they will whip out a gun and people will then get into a street gun fight.

Billy 06-23-2013 08:55 PM

Fist used to be the best basing melee. For doors and the flag.

MonicaLewinsky 06-23-2013 09:10 PM

maybe you can click more actions>challenge and you can challenge someone to a fight. then you two can fight for a wager in the middle of the street.

Ghettoicedtea 06-23-2013 09:26 PM

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Posted by Billy (Post 374915)
Fist used to be the best basing melee. For doors and the flag.

then fking daggers were released. But not against doors, melees won that.

Vladamir Blackthorne 06-25-2013 06:21 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 374889)
theres one problem with this though, the main problem is that everyone in era will own a gun, so if one person starts beating the crap out of someone else they will whip out a gun and people will then get into a street gun fight.

That's where the special fists-only area in my idea comes in.

Era News 06-25-2013 09:53 PM

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Posted by Lazerlatté (Post 373171)
Well, I sorta want everyone to be equal in terms of power in this.

You must be dreaming, there's no equality in a P2W game like era

Vladamir Blackthorne 06-25-2013 10:37 PM

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Posted by Era News (Post 376464)
You must be dreaming, there's no equality in a P2W game like era

Just because guns are Pay to Win doesn't mean everything has to be. We're talking a sort of diversion here; it's meant to be a fun alternative to usual combat. I'm sure even Stefan could find it reasonable to make sure no one is more powerful because they have more money to waste on a diversion. As long as Stephane doesn't try to manupilate his opinion on it...

-->robg<-- 08-28-2013 05:25 PM

Pretty cool idea!!!! Love it! Maybe if considered, there could be some areas in Era where you can't use weapons and only can use the street fighting moves. It will be a blood bath.

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Ooops I see at the end of your post you suggested a no guns area

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Posted by Hayze (Post 374920)
maybe you can click more actions>challenge and you can challenge someone to a fight. then you two can fight for a wager in the middle of the street.

Ha ha ha love this idea too. Great concept!

The only thing I hate about this whole idea is I didn't come up with it.

Astroo 08-28-2013 07:47 PM

Anyone hear that Ultra Street Fighter 4 was announced? Oh wait, this thread is for Era... nothing to see here.

Vladamir Blackthorne 08-28-2013 08:34 PM

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Posted by -->robg<-- (Post 404487)
Pretty cool idea!!!! Love it! Maybe if considered, there could be some areas in Era where you can't use weapons and only can use the street fighting moves. It will be a blood bath.

(edited)
Ooops I see at the end of your post you suggested a no guns area



Ha ha ha love this idea too. Great concept!

The only thing I hate about this whole idea is I didn't come up with it.

Well, I wouldn't say that there would be any "moves". The way I want it is more along the lines of Sega's Virtua Figter. No fireballs or gravity defying roundhouses, just punch, kick, and headbutt, all of which must be used strategically and skillfully to ensure your opponent is the first to lose all their stamina and get knocked out.

lord greg 08-28-2013 08:47 PM

It would be great to level up skill for it such as stamina and power.

Astroo 08-28-2013 10:15 PM

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Posted by Lazerlatté (Post 404514)
No fireballs or gravity defying roundhouses.

HADOUKEN! SHORYUKEN!

Ghettoicedtea 08-28-2013 11:21 PM

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Posted by Lazerlatté (Post 376337)
That's where the special fists-only area in my idea comes in.

your crazy right? Everyone knows what happens to these things in era, the playerbase wander out to go peek at whats new then go back to start and it all becomes a deserted wasteland

Vladamir Blackthorne 08-29-2013 08:48 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 404585)
your crazy right? Everyone knows what happens to these things in era, the playerbase wander out to go peek at whats new then go back to start and it all becomes a deserted wasteland

The only reason areas like this don't see much activity after a while is because they're pointless. I'm assuming you mean areas like the PK arena, or certain areas that play a minimal role on the server. Think, if you had this entire new way of fighting, but people would rather fill you with lead, would you still want to fight with your fists? It's just like how sparrers use arenas meant for their unique form of combat rather than fighting in the street where people could intervene at any waking moment. I'm sure people would make use of it.

lord greg 08-29-2013 08:54 PM

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Posted by Lazerlatté (Post 404870)
The only reason areas like this don't see much activity after a while is because they're pointless. I'm assuming you mean areas like the PK arena, or certain areas that play a minimal role on the server. Think, if you had this entire new way of fighting, but people would rather fill you with lead, would you still want to fight with your fists? It's just like how sparrers use arenas meant for their unique form of combat rather than fighting in the street where people could intervene at any waking moment. I'm sure people would make use of it.

I'm not sure. Boxing was popular for a few days and this is a similar system.

Vladamir Blackthorne 08-29-2013 09:51 PM

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Posted by lord greg (Post 404873)
I'm not sure. Boxing was popular for a few days and this is a similar system.

How does one compar a lackluster melee spar to a completely new way of fighting? For one thing it's street fighting. You don't do it in any arena. And it's an idea intended to improve the useless fists and turn it into a system of knocking someone out with not only punches, but kicks and headbutts also, all set up so that one must fight in a strategic manner. You really should read the OP before comparing it to boxing spar.

lord greg 08-30-2013 06:02 PM

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Posted by Lazerlatté (Post 404892)
How does one compar a lackluster melee spar to a completely new way of fighting? For one thing it's street fighting. You don't do it in any arena. And it's an idea intended to improve the useless fists and turn it into a system of knocking someone out with not only punches, but kicks and headbutts also, all set up so that one must fight in a strategic manner. You really should read the OP before comparing it to boxing spar.

I did read the OP. Boxing is fist fighting and so is street fighting or at least it is a component of it.

Vladamir Blackthorne 08-31-2013 01:56 AM

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Posted by lord greg (Post 405142)
I did read the OP. Boxing is fist fighting and so is street fighting or at least it is a component of it.

The why the heck did you compare it to boxing spar? It's obvious that it and my idea barely anything in common. Boxing is nothing more than a lame melee spar, my idea could quite possibly gather up a new kind of player. We have basers, sparrers, and PKers, and with this we'd have an entire section of the playerbase that focuses on this.

TOXICHAZ3RD 08-31-2013 04:12 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 373125)
Or buy brass knuckles and have improved fist damage

The thing is that tht brass knuckles are pretty expensive and what if you were new to the game, so I think the idea of a fist fighting style is an amazing idea

lord greg 08-31-2013 07:33 PM

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Posted by Lazerlatté (Post 405283)
The why the heck did you compare it to boxing spar? It's obvious that it and my idea barely anything in common. Boxing is nothing more than a lame melee spar, my idea could quite possibly gather up a new kind of player. We have basers, sparrers, and PKers, and with this we'd have an entire section of the playerbase that focuses on this.

Boxing involves punching, yes? Street fighting involves punching, yes? Nothing in common at all. People had a chance to use a melee only area and it didn't work so why would this work?

Ghettoicedtea 09-05-2013 08:31 PM

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Posted by TOXICHAZ3RD (Post 405343)
The thing is that tht brass knuckles are pretty expensive and what if you were new to the game, so I think the idea of a fist fighting style is an amazing idea

LOL those are NOT expensive, 2.4K in era is not that much cash. Also its the best deal you can get for weapons, you get a incredibly fast melee with a low freeze (these kickass in bush race), and 7 damage. Brass knuckles can easily last you up until you get a EC melee.

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Posted by lord greg (Post 405503)
Boxing involves punching, yes? Street fighting involves punching, yes? Nothing in common at all. People had a chance to use a melee only area and it didn't work so why would this work?

street fighting is a way different style of fighting. In standard boxing you can't kick, grab, hit below the belt, etc. Theres no rules in street fighting, you pull any dirty trick you can.

lord greg 09-05-2013 09:27 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 407321)
LOL those are NOT expensive, 2.4K in era is not that much cash. Also its the best deal you can get for weapons, you get a incredibly fast melee with a low freeze (these kickass in bush race), and 7 damage. Brass knuckles can easily last you up until you get a EC melee.



street fighting is a way different style of fighting. In standard boxing you can't kick, grab, hit below the belt, etc. Theres no rules in street fighting, you pull any dirty trick you can.

But in terms of gameplay if this was added, it would be very similar.

Vladamir Blackthorne 09-06-2013 05:36 AM

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Posted by lord greg (Post 407335)
But in terms of gameplay if this was added, it would be very similar.

No it wouldn't >.<

Boxing spar was a pointless spar that restricts players to a special boxing melee

My idea can't be compared in such a way to anything else, read the freaking OP

Ghettoicedtea 09-06-2013 04:55 PM

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Posted by Lazerlatté (Post 407575)
No it wouldn't >.<

Boxing spar was a pointless spar that restricts players to a special boxing melee

My idea can't be compared in such a way to anything else, read the freaking OP

special attacks are mere useless in this game, pirate hammer spin attack. Completley useless, your better off just using a basic attack. A special arena would just become a abandoned ghost town within a week, plus if this system was implemented into era as anywere anytime, the HUD would be so freakin cluttered on ipods and smaller devices. Also the whole stamina system, if admins are lazy enough to not finish projects that they started when they can easily ask people in charge of them for the files and complete it, what makes you think they will implement a whole new gameplay function?

What can be possible for the fists though, era could add in combo attacks feature were if you hit a guy you go into a hit hit kick and the kick does 4 damage + knockback.

lord greg 09-06-2013 05:17 PM

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Posted by Lazerlatté (Post 407575)
No it wouldn't >.<

Boxing spar was a pointless spar that restricts players to a special boxing melee

My idea can't be compared in such a way to anything else, read the freaking OP

Basically you want certain areas to be non weapon and only that yes? That's never going to work. An area would be a ghost town like ghetto said.


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