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Aebb* 06-22-2013 12:00 AM

I was recently on youtube, watching Graal:Pking in real life #2 when, in the more videos section, it came up with a video by Courageousclarity, explaining the dangers of classic. I have nothing against classic, but some of these things are true. There are 12-7yr old kids on there, and theres people asking them for rp. I mean, if it was clean rp, that would be ok, but 99% of the time its sexual. Those kids dont even know what theyre doing, but they do it anyway.
Thats bad, young kids getting lured into something that they dont even understand.


Another thing is the issue of people asking for kik. Its not the nice people that just wanna see how the other person's day is going, it normally escalates into people asking for nudes. I dont mean they talk clean on graal and then on kik they ask for nudes, on graal they'll say "dirty girls with kik pm" and then when you do, they'll message back "send me ur naughty pics. There are kids getting lured into this, and that Child P0rnography, which is jail time.

Admins dont do anything about this. In fact, admins aren't even helpful anymore. Every time u pm them u just get one back saying "the messaged player logged out" and thats just like saying "f off you peice of crap, we're so much better than you, and we dont have to help you"

I tested all of this out. I dressed up as a girl, and timed with my phone. It took me 37.4 seconds to have a pm from a guy saying "if ur 16-17 send me ur nudes on kik, addison650.
It took me 48.2 seconds to get another messahe asking for nudes on kik, and another 2 seconds after that saying "if ur a nasty girl, lets do some truly nasty rp"


This needs to be dealt with, or graal wont be a nice place to be.

Bump.

Nabu Lapse 06-22-2013 12:07 AM

Just ignore it. Seriously it's the Internet what do you expect?

Sir 06-22-2013 12:20 AM

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Posted by Nabu Lapse (Post 373417)
Just ignore it. Seriously it's the Internet what do you expect?

Why ignore it why the problem can resolved with a solution?

Aebb* 06-22-2013 12:22 AM

Good point sir. Why ingore something when the solution is easy

MonicaLewinsky 06-22-2013 12:24 AM

If the solution is "easy", then what is the solution?

Aebb* 06-22-2013 12:27 AM

I didnt say i knew the solution. I said it was easy

Breezy 06-22-2013 12:29 AM

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Posted by Aebb* (Post 373434)
I didnt say i knew the solution. I said it was easy

That makes perfect sense.

Aebb* 06-22-2013 12:32 AM

This thread isnt about argueing.. Its about finding answers.

Xavier 06-22-2013 01:20 AM

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Posted by Aebb* (Post 373388)
Admins dont do anything about this. In fact, admins aren't even helpful anymore. Every time u pm them u just get one back saying "the messaged player logged out" and thats just like saying "f off you peice of crap, we're so much better than you, and we dont have to help you"

On the contrary, dealing with these kinds of people actually takes up a large portion of our job. You'd be surprised how many are dealt with on a daily basis. Also, if you get a message saying that "The messaged player logged out" it means that the staff member you messaged isn't connected to the server, it's not them ignoring you.

meganey98 06-22-2013 01:35 AM

True, Admins better ban those sexual kids out from graal!

Zinnia 06-22-2013 02:40 AM

Nice save Aebb xD

That being said. I think it should be taken seriously and these people should be warned or banned for soliciting this kind of stuff.

Aebb* 06-22-2013 02:58 AM

say wha?

Zinnia 06-22-2013 03:09 AM

Haha I guess that will have to be our little secret Aebb ;) lol

Breezy 06-22-2013 03:18 AM

No it's not a secret I saw it also

Aebb* 06-22-2013 03:22 AM

lol back to the topic...

Basi 06-22-2013 04:24 AM

Kik me: hottiewithabodybasi666

Aebb* 06-22-2013 04:28 AM

usrs?

that1guy666 06-22-2013 04:43 AM

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Posted by Aebb* (Post 373388)
Admins dont do anything about this. In fact, admins aren't even helpful anymore. Every time u pm them u just get one back saying "the messaged player logged out" and thats just like saying "f off you peice of crap, we're so much better than you, and we dont have to help you"

You sir have no idea how wrong you are. We are constantly looking out for these players. If you want to help out the Graal community, instead of complaining about staff, each time you see this happen report the players. Side note: when you say "admins" it encompasses graphics, lats, devs, and GP's.

Sir 06-22-2013 05:33 AM

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Posted by that1guy666 (Post 373635)
You sir have no idea how wrong you are. We are constantly looking out for these players. If you want to help out the Graal community, instead of complaining about staff, each time you see this happen report the players. Side note: when you say "admins" it encompasses graphics, lats, devs, and GP's.

That's how I got so many cookies :0 OM NOM NOM

ufoburan 06-22-2013 07:35 AM

Seems to me with all the problems on classic from harassment,to scammers, to door blocking at towers. There needs to be at least twice as many gp's as they seem to be unable to handle the amount of complaints they are getting. So maybe they could find a way to speed up the recruiting process. I know ppl that have applied that are waiting to find out if they are going to get hired or not.

Idk how it works, but it also seems like they need to branch off the gp's into different groups. like one group to handle guild/tower issues and one to handle individual issues. I would think it would also make it easier for gp's if there was different sections you could click on to direct the issue your reporting. I know you give a description of your issue when you report. I'm just saying there could be different selection boxes that you cloud click to choose which area the complaint is about- guilds/towers,personal issues,scammed,harassed,ect.

Aebb* 06-22-2013 07:44 AM

Excellent idea!

iHot 06-22-2013 07:46 AM

Don't try and solve a problem that can't be solved. It's like racism on iEra. The anonymity of being behind a screen gives the user freedoms to do what they want.

Admiral 06-22-2013 10:22 AM

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Posted by Aebb* (Post 373388)
Admins dont do anything about this. In fact, admins aren't even helpful anymore. Every time u pm them u just get one back saying "the messaged player logged out" and thats just like saying "f off you peice of crap, we're so much better than you, and we dont have to help you"

Just because you can't see what they're doing, doesn't mean they are not doing anything.

Aebb* 06-22-2013 10:57 AM

Excuse me? Admins in the player relations section are only there to help.

Era News 06-22-2013 01:47 PM

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Posted by Aebb* (Post 373388)
I was recently on youtube, watching Graal:Pking in real life #2 when, in the more videos section, it came up with a video by Courageousclarity, explaining the dangers of classic. I have nothing against classic, but some of these things are true. There are 12-7yr old kids on there, and theres people asking them for rp. I mean, if it was clean rp, that would be ok, but 99% of the time its sexual. Those kids dont even know what theyre doing, but they do it anyway. Thats bad, young kids getting lured into something that they dont even understand. Another thing is the issue of people asking for kik. Its not the nice people that just wanna see how the other person's day is going, it normally escalates into people asking for nudes. I dont mean they talk clean on graal and then on kik they ask for nudes, on graal they'll say "dirty girls with kik pm" and then when you do, they'll message back "send me ur naughty pics. There are kids getting lured into this, and that Child P0rnography, which is jail time. Admins dont do anything about this. In fact, admins aren't even helpful anymore. Every time u pm them u just get one back saying "the messaged player logged out" and thats just like saying "f off you peice of crap, we're so much better than you, and we dont have to help you" I tested all of this out. I dressed up as a girl, and timed with my phone. It took me 37.4 seconds to have a pm from a guy saying "if ur 16-17 send me ur nudes on kik, addison650. It took me 48.2 seconds to get another messahe asking for nudes on kik, and another 2 seconds after that saying "if ur a nasty girl, lets do some truly nasty rp" This needs to be dealt with, or graal wont be a nice place to be. Bump.


So you stood there with a stop watch and calculated even milliseconds, highly unlikely. I tested this same thing out and didn't get one pm.

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Posted by Aebb* (Post 373434)
I didnt say i knew the solution. I said it was easy

You seem like a smart guy :)

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Posted by that1guy666 (Post 373635)
You sir have no idea how wrong you are. We are constantly looking out for these players. If you want to help out the Graal community, instead of complaining about staff, each time you see this happen report the players. Side note: when you say "admins" it encompasses graphics, lats, devs, and GP's.

So yes tell me again why we always get the message of "the messages player has logged out".

Furryamigo 06-22-2013 01:50 PM

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Posted by Era News (Post 373926)
So yes tell me again why we always get the message of "the messages player has logged out".

The staff isn't on client.

Crono 06-22-2013 01:58 PM

graal rp so hot

Basi 06-22-2013 02:08 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 373935)
graal rp so hot

Adopt me

iHot 06-22-2013 02:24 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 373935)
graal rp so hot

Do you have a bed? No? Fine we'll go rent one at the Red Barn Furniture store.

Zoologist 06-22-2013 07:38 PM

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Posted by Aebb* (Post 373434)
I didnt say i knew the solution. I said it was easy

You want my help? get a solution and a plan.

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Posted by Aebb* (Post 373858)
Excuse me? Admins in the player relations section are only there to help.

BOOOP BOOOP BEEEP BOOOP *the ****** alert is going off again*

Midori 06-22-2013 07:53 PM

Hmm, true. Technically what some of these players are doing is against the law; they are knowingly asking underaged players for naked images of themselves. Even more desperate offenders change their characters to be female, and ask for "Lez or bi girls Kik". I can confirm being randomly approached by someone asking if I am or if I know any "lez or bi girls".

Normally I just report and block them, but if they are persistent, I can usually backtrace most of them and find out their real identities, record evidence of their actions, and ask them to stop or I forward all collected evidence to their parents/school authorities/local police (which are equally easy to find out given the appropriate tools and tracing methods).

iHot 06-22-2013 08:09 PM

HEY CAN I PUT MY BURGER IN YOUR REFUGE?

Crag 06-22-2013 08:34 PM

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Posted by Midori (Post 374146)
Hmm, true. Technically what some of these players are doing is against the law; they are knowingly asking underaged players for naked images of themselves. Even more desperate offenders change their characters to be female, and ask for "Lez or bi girls Kik". I can confirm being randomly approached by someone asking if I am or if I know any "lez or bi girls".

Normally I just report and block them, but if they are persistent, I can usually backtrace most of them and find out their real identities, record evidence of their actions, and ask them to stop or I forward all collected evidence to their parents/school authorities/local police (which are equally easy to find out given the appropriate tools and tracing methods).

That's pretty awesome! I was thinking about doing something like this myself as my 10 year old sister was constantly being sexually harassed, with players asking her for nudes etc. It's not right.

Blueh 06-22-2013 08:48 PM

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Posted by Midori (Post 374146)
Hmm, true. Technically what some of these players are doing is against the law; they are knowingly asking underaged players for naked images of themselves. Even more desperate offenders change their characters to be female, and ask for "Lez or bi girls Kik". I can confirm being randomly approached by someone asking if I am or if I know any "lez or bi girls".

Normally I just report and block them, but if they are persistent, I can usually backtrace most of them and find out their real identities, record evidence of their actions, and ask them to stop or I forward all collected evidence to their parents/school authorities/local police (which are equally easy to find out given the appropriate tools and tracing methods).

Remind me to never piss you off...EVER o_o.

Thallen 06-22-2013 09:49 PM

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Posted by Midori (Post 374146)
Normally I just report and block them, but if they are persistent, I can usually backtrace most of them and find out their real identities, record evidence of their actions, and ask them to stop or I forward all collected evidence to their parents/school authorities/local police (which are equally easy to find out given the appropriate tools and tracing methods).


Aaron 06-23-2013 12:40 AM

Omg didn't we already have a thread on this ?

Era News 06-23-2013 12:44 AM

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Posted by Furryamigo (Post 373930)
The staff isn't on client.

Exactly, they should always be on client.

PoeticFolly 06-23-2013 01:02 AM

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Posted by Era News (Post 374319)
Exactly, they should always be on client.

So staff should be on graal all the time? Most of the time when I'm on rc and not on client, I'm afk. So if they were always in game but afk what would that do? it would do the exact same thing as being in rc but not client: no answer.

Psycher! 06-23-2013 01:27 AM

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Posted by Aaron (Post 374311)
Omg didn't we already have a thread on this ?

We did, actually.

princess becca 06-23-2013 04:22 AM

when people ask me junk like that i just say the truth: i do not have kik

Era News 06-23-2013 04:24 AM

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Posted by PoeticFolly (Post 374330)
So staff should be on graal all the time? Most of the time when I'm on rc and not on client, I'm afk. So if they were always in game but afk what would that do? it would do the exact same thing as being in rc but not client: no answer.


You shouldn't be AFK, if you want to go AFK turn RC and the client off. I don't see why staff need to go AFK for long periods of time. It's not that hard to re load graal when you come back.


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