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Rotaruc 07-19-2013 12:07 AM

M4 ONLY SPAR ROOM
 
Ive had this idea for a long time and id think it would be cool if an m4 only spar room existed. Other guns can be annoying in spar such as the bar. People are always complaining and others are always saying umad? lol. this would make spar more about skill and less about whos gun shoots more bullets.

Just feedback on the idea whether u think its good or not :P

GOAT 07-19-2013 12:30 AM

you should spar with swords so you could get a concept of what skilled sparring means

NightD.Gray-Man 07-19-2013 12:47 AM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 388668)
you should spar with swords so you could get a concept of what skilled sparring means

You do realize what server this is right?

GOAT 07-19-2013 12:50 AM

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Posted by NightD.Gray-Man (Post 388675)
You do realize what server this is right?

read it again bro it will come to you

Rotaruc 07-19-2013 01:43 AM

"Feedback on the idea whether u think its good or not" didnt ask if classics sparring system takes more skill.

bobo 07-19-2013 03:53 AM

What if I don't have an M4? Starter Pistol Spar!!!!!!

R o g u e 07-19-2013 06:25 AM

I liked the idea it will bring a lot of skill.And I might actually start sparring.

Rotaruc 07-19-2013 03:10 PM

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Posted by bobo (Post 388757)
What if I don't have an M4? Starter Pistol Spar!!!!!!

Pretty much everyone that spars and bases has an m4 lol. if ur a noob then thats too bad. 1 more reason why u should buy an m4.

Ozzy_Magus 07-19-2013 03:28 PM

Idk why the m4 is/always was considered being the best or perfect sparring gun.
Its been more then OP for almost 2 years.
There are other guns y'know. Rofl.

Calling non-m4 users a noob haha you're a joke.
Back in the day ak>m4.
Spar me souizen v m4

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Posted by GOAT (Post 388678)
read it again bro it will come to you

haha

It aint the gun with skill.
Its the player.
nice one goat

Rockstar 07-19-2013 04:07 PM

Shut up Ozzy, you brag about your crappy souizen. no one cares.

Ozzy_Magus 07-19-2013 08:03 PM

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Posted by iRockstar Ciprioni (Post 389000)
Shut up Ozzy, you brag about your crappy souizen. no one cares.

Stfu
Forreal what's your problem.
Y'all crying for lame stuff.
That dude here was asking for a m4 only spar room, idiotic why would they do a spar room for ONE gun, because one thinks the rest are *** and the m4 is the only real gun?
lol no.
Y'all suck, don't know what skill is.

Post something usefull, and stop pestering this thread with your hate, kid

Nabu Lapse 07-19-2013 08:21 PM

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Posted by Ozzy_Magus (Post 389083)
Stfu
Forreal what's your problem.
Y'all crying for lame stuff.
That dude here was asking for a m4 only spar room, idiotic why would they do a spar room for ONE gun, because one thinks the rest are *** and the m4 is the only real gun?
lol no.
Y'all suck, don't know what skill is.

Post something usefull, and stop pestering this thread with your hate, kid

Quit trying to act so high and mighty because you gave "mad skills". Rotaruc was simply trying to suggest a m4 spar room because it is the most typical and common spar weapon. Besides who cares if you don't like it, it's one room that won't do any harm to you.

G Fatal 07-19-2013 08:27 PM

Spar should have been one set gun from the start. I doubt it will change in anyway of (only this gun)spar rooms now though.

Ozzy_Magus 07-19-2013 11:54 PM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 388668)
you should spar with swords so you could get a concept of what skilled sparring means

All you gotta know is right here --^

Rotaruc 07-20-2013 04:04 AM

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Posted by Ozzy_Magus (Post 389083)
Stfu
Forreal what's your problem.
Y'all crying for lame stuff.
That dude here was asking for a m4 only spar room, idiotic why would they do a spar room for ONE gun, because one thinks the rest are *** and the m4 is the only real gun?
lol no.
Y'all suck, don't know what skill is.

Post something usefull, and stop pestering this thread with your hate, kid

I think other guns r good too lol its just that the m4 imo takes the most skill to use (not counting lower tier guns) idk maybe it is a bad idea to not spar against op guns for once. m4 is not op....

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Posted by Ozzy_Magus (Post 388987)
Idk why the m4 is/always was considered being the best or perfect sparring gun.
Its been more then OP for almost 2 years.
There are other guns y'know. Rofl.

Calling non-m4 users a noob haha you're a joke.
Back in the day ak>m4.
Spar me souizen v m4



haha

It aint the gun with skill.
Its the player.
nice one goat

Nd no one said non m4 users r noobs lol where did u get that from?... and since when do guns possess skill lol? who said that.... oh ur gun is too skillful. tf? lol

failure 07-20-2013 04:04 AM

I think this is why we have the kamehameha spar at the too of the map, or the boxing spar. A spar with everyone using the same gun, right?

Rotaruc 07-20-2013 04:06 AM

Omg i love that room lol. but no one goes there and u have to land like 30 hits on ur oppenent so it can be annoying.

Ozzy_Magus 07-20-2013 08:07 AM

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Posted by Rotaruc (Post 388981)
Pretty much everyone that spars and bases has an m4 lol. if ur a noob then thats too bad. 1 more reason why u should buy an m4.

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fsh 07-20-2013 09:41 AM

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Rotaruc 07-20-2013 08:33 PM

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Posted by Ozzy_Magus (Post 389312)
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u know that when u say non-m4 users it includes bars stens shipkas all the other gun users... what u said was that im saying anyone who doesnt use an m4 is a noob.... not what i said. i said noobs dont have m4s so they should get one to enter this m4 only room. so......

Ozzy_Magus 07-20-2013 09:04 PM

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Posted by Rotaruc (Post 389592)
u know that when u say non-m4 users it includes bars stens shipkas all the other gun users... what u said was that im saying anyone who doesnt use an m4 is a noob.... not what i said. i said noobs dont have m4s so they should get one to enter this m4 only room. so......

Even worse dude, so everyone using a other gun then the m4 is a noob a.k.a bar,shipka,sten like you said.

Read what goat said.
I'm being like this because what you're asking for is hmm? Ridicoulous.
You're acting like the m4 is the only real gun that *lol*REQUIRES*lol* skill.

That usualy comes from someone that loses against non-bar users.
Cloyd already explained this concept when the bar was released.
You guys rely too much on GUNS/DAMAGE
Do you think recurvez,myself,goblin or rozay NEED a m4 to be good, or use it because it requires skill? Lol.
Rozay owns any m4 user with his bag,
Recz with ANY gun
Same for gob^

Skill doesn't come with guns
Say what you want, what you're asking for is to only face m4 users because you do not want to play against other players using different guns. Explain me then, why the added a shietton of guns if, like you say, everyone that has "skill" uses an m4. No point having more guns then?Right?
"It ain't the gun that's skilled, its the player with the skill" -Lux
Makes me mad cause rofl, looks like you're only sparring if your opponent is using an m4.
The hell, the m4 isn't the best/only gun there is on era and that players can use.
Your concept is lame, ppl crying when you use bar against them, so what? Bought other guns to use them in spar, every gun fits diff. players spar style.
If there is no variety, there isn't a challenge anymore.
Goat's quote: iClassic has only 1 "weapon" to spar with, the sword. It then depends on the PLAYER, the most skilled wins. That concept is fine itself, but doesnt work for era.Since we have 40+ guns.
If you add variety to this concept, you then not only get more challenge but then it will also depend on 3 things 1)The gun itself (No the best guns isn't the most $$$, still depends on PLAYERSKILL) 2)The player (if he's decent) 3)The combination of the player AND the gun (Which requires skill, a gun not necessarily being decent, but one that fits the player himself)
You now understood the whole concept of what era is.

lord greg 07-20-2013 10:41 PM

Bag is a better gun than m4....

I like the idea of a single gun room although I think a different gun that isn't sold should be used so there isn't an unfair advantage of some people not having a gun so can't enter.

Ozzy_Magus 07-20-2013 11:47 PM

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Posted by lord greg (Post 389633)
Bag is a better gun than m4....

I like the idea of a single gun room although I think a different gun that isn't sold should be used so there isn't an unfair advantage of some people not having a gun so can't enter.

Exactly, a spar room where both have the same gun (I still find it lame), can be ok.
But not focus on a specific gun, like on this thread, the m4.
Era has a variety of guns for everyone, low-budget people and expensive stuff. Regardless of the prices, the players can use what they want.

I'm sparring with bar/souizen all the time, no matter what sxht those haters r sayin', we can do what we want.

Rotaruc 07-21-2013 01:40 AM

lol everytime i mix the words "skill" and "era" something like this always happen. forget the idea guys. obviously its ridiculous.

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Posted by Ozzy_Magus (Post 389599)
You now understood the whole concept of what era is.

i understand it lol. here it is- SPAM.

Ozzy_Magus 07-21-2013 10:15 AM

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Posted by Rotaruc (Post 389742)
lol everytime i mix the words "skill" and "era" something like this always happen. forget the idea guys. obviously its ridiculous.



i understand it lol. here it is- SPAM.

Hahaha dude, I'm laughing so hard.
Lemme rephrase my opinion; no, they aren't gonna make a spar room where players cannot use their bars against you so you'll win.

Seriously? "spam", no hope for you becoming a real sparrer, you killed it.
Complaining, cause you get "spammed" *owned* when they use shipka/bar on you.
Lemme quote myself;

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Posted by Ozzy_Magus
You guys rely too much on guns/damage


Isaac 07-21-2013 10:21 AM

Eh, no.

Sparring against other guns requires you to be prepared for anything.
If sparring was restricted to m4s only (even in just one room), you would be able to practice, and eventually there would be no challenge.

Ozzy_Magus 07-21-2013 10:23 AM

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Posted by Isaac (Post 389947)
Eh, no.

Sparring against other guns requires you to be prepared for anything.
If sparring was restricted to m4s only (even in just one room), you would be able to practice, and eventually there would be no challenge.

The meaning of skill.^

Billy 07-21-2013 10:38 AM

No.. Just no.. Everyone already thinks M4 is the "Main" gun. This encourages it. Players think if you spar with any other gun you're bad. If I had souizen/bag/mp7 I'd use it over M4 no matter what anyone says. On iEra you can spam souizen and the other player will cry. On Era PC with MP5 Navy you can literally make undodgeable bullet walls and the player might say "nice walls" and such but they wont say mp5 ***.. It's based on how you spar,its not like one tap will make the gun spam... Also if you want to betspar/series,people will be like,M4 spar! Anyways the point here is,M4 isn't the main gun and there's a variety of guns that should ALL be used in spar..

Ozzy_Magus 07-21-2013 11:00 AM

Exactly this m4 is the best gun thingy has to stop, I already find it rude putting only 12 clip onto the bag/souizen while m4 has almost the same stats(except it isn't auto) but has 16 clip.
its like they're trying to keep the m4 on the top, I mean its just an m4, tf?
Wait for more good guns to be released, the m4's gonna be put down.
On pc, there are the "tier 1,2,3" guns, m4 is like 2, not even sure.
Snake.R already told me few months ago, this is because players cry too much, making em' not being able to balance the guns.

Rotaruc 07-21-2013 03:05 PM

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Posted by Isaac (Post 389947)
Eh, no.

Sparring against other guns requires you to be prepared for anything.
If sparring was restricted to m4s only (even in just one room), you would be able to practice, and eventually there would be no challenge.

Theres always going to be a challenge....

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Posted by Ozzy_Magus (Post 389960)
Exactly this m4 is the best gun thingy has to stop, I already find it rude putting only 12 clip onto the bag/souizen while m4 has almost the same stats(except it isn't auto) but has 16 clip.
its like they're trying to keep the m4 on the top, I mean its just an m4, tf?
Wait for more good guns to be released, the m4's gonna be put down.
On pc, there are the "tier 1,2,3" guns, m4 is like 2, not even sure.
Snake.R already told me few months ago, this is because players cry too much, making em' not being able to balance the guns.

so what you guys are saying is that ppl whould use more op guns than the m4? lol

PoeticFolly 07-21-2013 11:26 PM

Dual maccus uzis are cool.

PumaD 07-21-2013 11:42 PM

Use whatever gun you want, I'll win anyways (ask Poetic he's my backup).

SpyN64 07-21-2013 11:54 PM

I think that would be a bad idea. It would be a crap ton of effort for something not even that usefull. They let you choose your weapon for a reason you know lol.

Graal796464 07-24-2013 10:28 PM

Ozzy shut the f*** up lmao. You're garbage, whereas i'm happy your sorry booty got reset. That shut your mouth up just nicely.

lord greg 07-24-2013 11:12 PM

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Posted by Graal796464 (Post 391615)
Ozzy shut the f*** up lmao. You're garbage, whereas i'm happy your sorry booty got reset. That shut your mouth up just nicely.

hard man we got here

Koolaid 07-25-2013 01:31 AM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 388668)
you should spar with swords so you could get a concept of what skilled sparring means

*Facepalm* Do any of you know we have a sword spar... it's called boxing k. :P


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