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GotenGraal 07-28-2013 12:03 AM

rufus hax 4 us to win gst agen
 
wtf y rufus

Ash Ketchum 07-28-2013 12:23 AM

I'm posting here so i can be in a deleted thread

Thallen 07-28-2013 12:26 AM

ya he did, pressed the S key and hacked opponents to pieces with sword in final round

PumaD 07-28-2013 12:27 AM

I know this is a troll, but why Rufus all the time? Moderating the GST is nothing of his duties, the GP(Player Relation) is in charge of it mostly. So, blame the GPA for rigging it (since it's hard to rig and spar at the same time - I tried it out myself).

-Albus 07-28-2013 12:29 AM

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Posted by PumaD (Post 392849)
I know this is a troll, but why Rufus all the time? Moderating the GST is nothing of his duties, the GP(Player Relation) is in charge of it mostly. So, blame the GPA for rigging it (since it's hard to rig and spar at the same time - I tried it out myself).

Lol I wasn't even online for it.

PumaD 07-28-2013 12:35 AM

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Posted by -Albus (Post 392850)
Lol I wasn't even online for it.

With the GPAs I mean they should be in charge who to put on as a moderator of the GST, and the GPs should moderate it. Of course they should be replaced by any staff if they can't get online at that time, but the GST is Classics biggest event for players, so player-related staff should manage it in my opinion (not talking about the development-wise part).

Rufus 07-28-2013 12:36 AM

Fowlplay4 has managed every single GST we've had so far. I get the blame because it was an event that I started and we've won a few times. People easily forget that we have lost the last 2 (or 3?) mixed tournaments.

PigParty 07-28-2013 12:51 AM

Y U HAX D00D?

MrSimons 07-28-2013 12:53 AM

So is it that Rufus rigs the GST and US sucks, or that US is too good and should be dqed for being pro?

Thallen 07-28-2013 12:57 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 392876)
So is it that Rufus rigs the GST and US sucks, or that US is too good and should be dqed for being pro?

it's more that certain unfortunate circumstances occurred during the hosting of the GST which other teams scapegoated and made appear as if US had some unfair advantage that was controlled by us

would explain in greater detail if this wasn't opened as a non-serious thread

GotenGraal 07-28-2013 01:00 AM

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Posted by Rufus (Post 392857)
Fowlplay4 has managed every single GST we've had so far. I get the blame because it was an event that I started and we've won a few times. People easily forget that we have lost the last 2 (or 3?) mixed tournaments.

My proof

Blueh 07-28-2013 01:02 AM

Graalluminati 2013

Ash Ketchum 07-28-2013 01:08 AM

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Posted by Ash Ketchum (Post 392846)
I'm posting here so i can be in a deleted thread

ok my prediction was wrong

Cigam 07-28-2013 02:12 AM

People seem to not like whoever wins the GST. They come up with some other excuse to hate them just because they won.

Crono 07-28-2013 02:20 AM

number of characters in rufus(us): 9

number of times US has won GST: 11

9/11

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/70022/david-blane-o.gif

Ryan 07-28-2013 03:25 AM

rofos turnd all sords into bred and unixmad caame and eated them so the other teem cudnt defend

Era News 07-28-2013 04:14 AM

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Posted by GotenGraal (Post 392881)
My proof

OMG IM IN THAT PIC FINALLY.

MrSimons 07-28-2013 04:20 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 392879)
it's more that certain unfortunate circumstances occurred during the hosting of the GST which other teams scapegoated and made appear as if US had some unfair advantage that was controlled by us

would explain in greater detail if this wasn't opened as a non-serious thread

tired of us' bull**** and trying to make the other tesams look like the bad guys, just stop asshole.

Ryan 07-28-2013 04:59 AM

US havnt wun in 3 munths = Half life 3 confirmed

kenthefruit 07-28-2013 05:15 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 392848)
ya he did, pressed the S key and hacked opponents to pieces with sword in final round

Omg just stfu.

GotenGraal 07-28-2013 05:53 AM

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Posted by Crono (Post 392937)
number of characters in rufus(us): 9

number of times US has won GST: 11

9/11

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/70022/david-blane-o.gif

u have a point there

n old man tallen haxxed too i bet

ufoburan 07-28-2013 06:18 AM

Of course when an admins guild dominates a tournament season after season its gonna arouse suspicion and the ire of many graalian's. Or complain even more so when he's guild mates are on the the team that wins the other tournament as well. Just saying looks funny to me. This is why I lobby for new gst options like random teams where you just get thrown together with whom ever and not in a set guild loaded down with no life i mean "pro" sparrers and the head admin.

iHot 07-28-2013 06:33 AM

If Rufus wanted to win that bad he could cancel the GST and just have US and a noob guild randomly spar for a hat.

Ash Ketchum 07-28-2013 06:48 AM

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Posted by Crono (Post 392937)
number of characters in rufus(us): 9

number of times US has won GST: 11

9/11

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/70022/david-blane-o.gif

I can watch that gif all day and still be amused

HON3Y BADG3R 07-28-2013 06:59 AM

You think rufus really hacked to win? Bitch, he can make his own hat for free, not participate in a 6 hour long game of drama.

Thallen 07-28-2013 07:28 AM

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Posted by TwistedWizard (Post 393025)
Omg just stfu.

no you

Sir 07-28-2013 08:03 AM

Spoiler
I'm the one who haxed da GST >:) sori

Ryan 07-28-2013 08:06 AM

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Posted by Sir (Post 393091)
Spoiler
I'm the one who haxed da GST >:) sori

YOU MONSTER

Clown 07-28-2013 08:57 AM

I'm confused...so US won a game against another guild and because it's an admin guild they were accused of cheating? Yet they stay oblivious to the other hundred games they've won?

iHot 07-28-2013 09:30 AM

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Posted by iDiZzY Canavi (Post 393122)
I'm confused...so US won a game against another guild and because it's an admin guild they were accused of cheating? Yet they stay oblivious to the other hundred games they've won?

Had there not been a HAT PRIZE no one would care.

Thallen 07-28-2013 09:46 AM

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Posted by iDiZzY Canavi (Post 393122)
I'm confused...so US won a game against another guild and because it's an admin guild they were accused of cheating? Yet they stay oblivious to the other hundred games they've won?

I will explain if it means that this gets put to a rest.


Round 1
We poop on team.

Round 2
We poop on team.

Round 3
We poop on team.

Semifinals vs. CRU
Match #1: We win convincingly.
Match #2: We lose by 0.5.
Match #3: During this match, one of our players (Trip) remains frozen at the top of the spar for roughly 5 seconds. Zeross gets owned and is crying to the host as if it somehow advantages us that one of our players was frozen for an extremely brief period of time (which resulted in us getting teamed up on by multiple members and taking several hits). We win convincingly with both Ares and myself left alive.

Finals vs. Deity
Match #1: We lose by a few hits. Please keep in mind that up until this point, Rufus is not even online and participating. He logs on because I message him on Skype and tell him I feel more comfortable if he is in the lineup rather than one of our subs.
Match #2: During this match, Red Leo (for Deity) gets warped out of the arena at 2.5 HP. Let's go ahead and pause here to rewind to the 2012 Fall GST where the same exact thing happened to me and nothing was done about it. During this match, Rufus witnessed that I was warped out of the arena yet refused to intervene because (even though it was the fair and right decision) it'd look biased. Nonetheless, we agree to give Deity a rematch.
Match #3: We win pretty convincingly and Deity is again claiming that one of their members was warped out of the arena at 1 HP. I'm too busy killing everything to care or notice if this does happen, but we manage to win the round by 3-5 hits or so.
Match #4-5: We split the matches, I don't remember in what order.
Match #6: We win with me still alive and at 1.5 HP.


So, from the perspective of an idiot, it seems as if Rufus magically comes online to save his horrible sparring guild from doom, when in reality I asked that he come online to spar for US because Trip's brief freeze made me uneasy and I feel like he's a safer sparrer.

If you guys think Rufus (or just about any of other US member, for that matter) cares enough about a GST to manipulate it in a way to make it easier for us to win then you don't know guild's personalities. Rufus actually did not want to participate at all, and only did because Ares and Deophite decided they wanted to participate a day before the GST was to be held. We needed him so that we had a full team of 7.

As for the others:
  • Ares stops to type in the middle of GST spars
  • Trip comes online once in a blue moon
  • Dave cares so little that he literally has left the server in the middle of GSTs before
  • Crono would rather play Dota 2 or sleep than participate
  • Shannon only agreed to play after we tried hard to convince her to change her day's plans to be at the GST

Anyway, GG.

Ash Ketchum 07-28-2013 09:54 AM

Thallen there isn't a need for you to prove anything. Everyone is just 'trolling', ''pulling your leg''. But even so, it was a pleasure reading all of that

Admiral 07-28-2013 09:55 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 392848)
ya he did, pressed the S key and hacked opponents to pieces with sword in final round

XD cleverr

Thallen 07-28-2013 09:56 AM

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Posted by Ash Ketchum (Post 393147)
Thallen there isn't a need for you to prove anything. Everyone is just 'trolling', ''pulling your leg''. But even so, it was a pleasure reading all of that

Nope, there are actually people who believe that any part of this is in some way true, including the teams that we beat along the way to win the GST. I'd rather have a detailed explanation here in text so I have something to refer them to when they whine over it and try to put an asterisk by the win.

kenthefruit 07-28-2013 10:17 AM

Okokokokokokok I'm so confused o.O, anyway.
Sorry Thallen, my mistake. Thought you were on the idiots side who made this thread.

ufoburan 07-28-2013 10:42 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 393149)
Nope, there are actually people who believe that any part of this is in some way true, including the teams that we beat along the way to win the GST. I'd rather have a detailed explanation here in text so I have something to refer them to when they whine over it and try to put an asterisk by the win.

I agree with like 98% of your detailed explanation. The part that I don't agree with or like is when you pm'd Rufus to come on and participate because you felt uneasy about one of your teammates. Last time I checked in almost all events specially in tournaments if your not their at the start your not allowed to jump in and participate. So why should the GST be any different?

I realize Rufus was just a sub,but if he didn't want to participate you could have gone out and recruited anybody to fill in one spot it's not like they would have had to participate just be on the team. Imo in future gst's any member not online at the start of the tournament should not be allowed to participate in the tournament,and nobody should be allowed to be substituted in or out in the finals that didn't participate in other matches.

I also think you should be able to change or re-submit your roster right up until the gst starts. I'm sure there have been lots of guilds who submit their line up for the gst then only 3-4 of them are online at the start of their match up and have to compete in a handicap match and lose right off the bat. Or maybe they could let single players register to be alternates that can be added to gst rosters for teams whose players where no shows,but they would have to be in the arena at the start of the gst to be eligible.

Ash Ketchum 07-28-2013 11:03 AM

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Posted by ufoburan (Post 393158)
I agree with like 98% of your detailed explanation. The part that I don't agree with or like is when you pm'd Rufus to come on and participate because you felt uneasy about one of your teammates. Last time I checked in almost all events specially in tournaments if your not their at the start your not allowed to jump in and participate. So why should the GST be any different?

I realize Rufus was just a sub,but if he didn't want to participate you could have gone out and recruited anybody to fill in one spot it's not like they would have had to participate just be on the team. Imo in future gst's any member not online at the start of the tournament should not be allowed to participate in the tournament,and nobody should be allowed to be substituted in or out in the finals that didn't participate in other matches.

I also think you should be able to change or re-submit your roster right up until the gst starts. I'm sure there have been lots of guilds who submit their line up for the gst then only 3-4 of them are online at the start of their match up and have to compete in a handicap match and lose right off the bat. Or maybe they could let single players register to be alternates that can be added to gst rosters for teams whose players where no shows,but they would have to be in the arena at the start of the gst to be eligible.

You're forgetting that Rufus owns US

Yami 07-28-2013 11:15 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 393144)
Crono would rather sleep than participate.

Who wouldn't?!

Talbourn 07-28-2013 11:38 AM

I'll go ahead and say it. For those of you who are not familiar with Graal PC, at one point, US had a large portion of the best sparrers playing the game. Since the migration to iPhone/Facebook, only a small fraction of the players have came over and actively participated in the competition. No offense to any PC players in US that I'm not about to list, however, PC players know the dream team.

Brett
Ares
Prado
Squirt
Highlander
Rygor
Thallen* (addition during iDevice era, still OG PC player)


iDevice players, just thank Rufus for not summoning the '95-96 Chicago Bulls.


On another note, congratulations to US and 'everyone' for winning the Summer GST.

Thallen 07-28-2013 12:52 PM

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Posted by ufoburan (Post 393158)
I realize Rufus was just a sub,but if he didn't want to participate you could have gone out and recruited anybody to fill in one spot it's not like they would have had to participate just be on the team.

Rufus was a core, we just didn't feel like we needed him until the finals. Also, US isn't a guild that just randomly recruits people for the purpose of filling out a team for the GST, so that isn't a possibility really.

Next season we should have Prado and David available so we won't need Rufus to fill in for anyone.

Maxy 07-28-2013 02:21 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 392937)

9/11

nvr frget

Crono 07-28-2013 03:02 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 393144)
  • Crono would rather play Dota 2 or sleep than participate

actually i was playing a ranked cs:go game, ok? :(

GotenGraal 07-28-2013 03:27 PM

rufus didnt participate at first because he was preparing his hax then tallen gave him the signal n he haxxed to win

G Fatal 07-28-2013 03:40 PM

Any form of spar sucks as eitherway there will be lag and delaying involved as the opponent isn't on exact same wifi,speed,place from server etcetcetc so spar will never exactly be fair.. and most delay/lag on purpose anyway.even if they adamantly say they don't.

PigParty 07-28-2013 03:49 PM

hey griceyyyy

G Fatal 07-28-2013 03:50 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 393253)
hey griceyyyy

HEY :D long time no see lol

Rezon 07-28-2013 04:47 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 393239)
actually i was playing a ranked cs:go game, ok? :(

im master guardian

Zetectic 07-28-2013 08:12 PM

come on!!
is this textbook website?
US won the gst and thats the end of it.
I know my pc freezed and my record didn't save, but US did not cheat.

Xenthic 07-28-2013 10:46 PM

I think Diety should of won.

PigParty 07-28-2013 10:54 PM

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Posted by Gricey (Post 393254)
HEY :D long time no see lol

waddup u should go back on classic :0 dylan thought i was u


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