Bombs and Arrows Dropping
 

For those of you who missed it Rufus just did a test run with ppl dropping there bombs and arrows when they died. I for one think this is brilliant and I think Rufus deserves a standing O for this innovation.

For anybody that took part did you like it or not?

Should this be permanent?

This is my response below

dat wrestling meme tho

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It's good (IMO) that he tested it but it's not an innovation by any stretch of the word. That's how it was on basically every PC server, it's the default really.

Anyway, people are going to be against the idea for two main reasons:

• "Wahhh, it ruins PKing!"
• They feel cheated because they purchase bombs and arrows (or the respective vendors)

It's a good idea because right now, PKing is just sparring with absolutely zero risk and a bunch of people running around. PKing should incorporate as many weapons as possible to make it vary from just sparring. That's just an opinion obviously, I can't tell you that yours is wrong. However, I think there should be a cap on how many bombs and arrows you drop on death.

Don't talk about PC servers on a iDevice forum. Anything you say about PC servers had that, or this first is invalid. When an PC server can get 200 players online and keep it controlled then come back to me

wat

Ya, you clearly did not read and comprehend the post, but then again you roleplay as a Pokemon trainer on the internet, so I'll repeat it for you. It isn't any "innovation" because it already existed. It's not an idea anyone had to come up with or script. It may have even been the default on iClassic and someone had to script something to disable it, I'm not sure. That's not even the point of my post though, I was just pointing that out on the side.

It's an innovation " new method, idea, product, etc: "technological innovations". to iClassic because it hadn't been brought up until now. PC server and an iOS server are two different things.

For example, an iOS server can be played by using a PC, Android and iOS. A PC server can only be played on PC, nothing more. An iOS server has a lot of players to please so it will be harder to do a good update, an PC server only has a max of 50 players, so it will be easier to please

Okay, it is a great innovation. We're only on the first page and Xenthic hasn't even seen this thread so it's way too early to be arguing.

Definitely a step in the right direction this update. Even if it's just bombs and arrows i'm glad that there will be some risk involved when you go to PK.

I support this idea. Therefore it shall now be implemented.

Bad idea.

I guess more digging in the ground if this gets implemented!

I reduced the price in shops too.

Xenthic, this will reduce Arrow spamming

So if we had 99 bombs on us, they would all be dropped? If so, you should only drop 5 bombs/arrows at a time.

If you have 99 bombs on you you will drop 25 when this is correctly implemented. 25% rounded drops.

Wasn't this "tested" once already? I remember Gralats would drop, too.

No because that would never ever happen when people are paying real money for those gralats.

Kinda ish I guess if someone is arrow spamming somebody will target that person, kill them and use there arrows which will create rage fits and the reduced prices for arrows and bombs won't help.

But I guess reducing arrow spamming is kinda good I guess ;)

DROP GRALATS DROP GRALATS DROP GRALATS
im usually at 0 bombs 0 arrows so im not really for or against it

Lol dont listen to ass ketchup he pro noob. If u think about it this will make arrow spam easier. Once a noob unleashes 200 arrows all they have to do is pick up the arrows from the crowed. Ill try to make a video to show it.

So say you have 90 arrows, you die, you have 65(or whatever number it is), you revive and you can just pick up the arrows from people you killed, isnt that kinda pointless? Unless you lose the arrows completely,

I'm not against the idea...
But atleast maybe it could drop bombs and arrow that ain't people's arrows and bombs?
So people don't loose bombs and arrows (People are happy)
And if maybe it could drop a item sometime(like idk 10% of the time) that you can trade when you have alot in a shop(Yes I am talking of the Token Shop who's not useful anymore and if we can add cool hats in it pker might like it, but add mounts, body or/and heads too :3)
Or if they drop their bombs and their arrows (People not happy)
Atleast maybe maximum 1-5 bombs or arrows?
And maybe it can drop a item that can be use at the token shop(same thing as the token shop, the week they deleted it you were able to get 0-5 token when you kill a baddy around the mod town but in dat time it was around the revolution/nexus idr but it was also near a rps... Oh and by the way maybe add a new R.P.S. that could be in that shop or atleast add some new R.P.S. around the map!)

http://i.imgur.com/Duv0dWT.png

LOL. you don't seem to get the point, it's to encourage PKing, and other normal player behavior. What would you rather do, go buy some bombs and arrows at the shops? nah. just kill a few players, gain some stats, and be on your way.

YES PLEASE YES PLEASE YES PLEASE

Why reduce the price of vendors? Honestly I don't see why bombs and arrows are even sold. It's not that hard to kill baddies.

So you drop 25% every death? Making it logarithmic decay. And I noticed you also can't drop below 5bombs/arrows.

You guys only think you want gralats to drop. Trust me, you don't. All it'd do is encourage players to use some additional alternative account where they PK or store gralats. It'd probably result in people buying less packs overall, which is bad for the game.

One of the few cool things about PKing is it can be done very casually without too much risk, and when you risk losing something that you spent a lot of time getting or even paid for, people begin to get scared and refuse to do it anymore. It'd be pretty stupid. This coming from someone who has like 200 gralats right now, and would only benefit from that type of a change.

I very rarely buy arrows and never buy bombs. I only use bombs I get from pyrate bay quest to farm with,and I only buy arrows when I'm out and towering. Mostly to pk my own guild members when they eventually afk and are in the damn way.


I agree with Thallen gralat drops=Bad idea to much abuse.

I still think this is something really cool that could be added,but I think they should offer this as a limited random weekend type thing like nexus/Rev instead of full time. As somebody that towers a lot I just don't want to worry about losing my items to pkers. They could have graal city open pk the same way. Perhaps eventually they could have enough random weekend events to have something happening at least every other weekend.

Ohhhh that's why I was like surrounded by bombs every time I died while doing the pyrat quest .-. I thought the pyrats were just being generous that day or something lol

I know right.

It's all ready to go live, but we're going to wait for a good opportunity to release it. Not a good idea to add something controversial after a bad release.

Actually, the idea has already been brought up on iClassic, a couple times. In fact, there is a script involved in dropping items upon death that was already on iClassic when the server was in development, but it was removed early on for reasons unknown to mere players. So, the concept was around on every server under the name of "Graal", and you are incorrect.

PC and iOS servers are played on different devices. They are the same games, with the same owners, and the same administration. What one server has and another doesn't is completely irrelevant, but the fact that Thallen already explained that administration already had this in place on any Graal server in the past gives us knowledge that the concept of dropping items upon death is nothing new to the game of Graal.

This information is an opinion, and I'd bet that I'm not the only one who believes your opinion to be incorrect. But as stated before, I cannot tell you upfront that your opinion is wrong. That would be my opinion as well.

If an iOS server is so much harder to please than a less populated PC server, why do people still buy numerous amounts of gralat packs to pay for custom graphic uploads, new guns (iEra) and dozens of hats? Any PC player you can find would not stand for such a price on small luxuries. But judging by server revenue and purchase logs, iOS players seem fairly happy with what they pay for! There is probably evidence to oppose this fact, but I'm not going to prove your point for you.

This wasn't "tested" before, rather it was a script issue with the entire server that caused the old script to fall back into place, causing players to lose small amounts of gralats when they died. People complained, and Stefan fixed the script and refunded players what they lost. As Rufus said, it can't happen on this server because people pay good money for their gralats, and it can't be justified to take that away without giving something else in return (for example, purchases).

Winter, i don't want to argue with you because you have more experience than me, so i see no point into putting my self into a situation like that

I don't want to either, nor do I like to. I only felt like I needed to state my opinion and give facts that others may not know about. Thanks for not shooting back at me, though lol. :)

I just think this shouldn't be in towers.

Why do you hold this belief?

Oh, so it was a bug back then. Lucky me putting tested in some "'s.

I think it should be at tower aswell so attackers can't really spam their arrows if the one who picks them up totally wastes them.

Ya, I agree. There will be a point where spammers won't be able to kill others to pick up their arrows/bombs due to the 25% drop. Targeting those who are spamming will rapidly decrease their ammo, making it an effective means of actively deterring it.

y can't we just buy bombs and arrows like normal people?

Wait what "bad release" and how does bomb/arrow drop contraverse it?

Revolution is terrible and all of the staff know it. The bombs/arrows change is controversial as an update. The timing of these two releases is not suitable together.

Revolution is always disappointing to me, and Ive seen worse things done to this server.

I wondered how the bomb/arrowing dropping would work when there are pk riots or the mass pking that happens when the blob shows up.

I was quite disappointed with revolution. It's nice that it's open for the newer players to see and experience for the first time. It just feels like there should be more content in there. Seem's like it might have been rushed. It's only the first week of August why not wait till the end of August and have more time to add stuff to it. All that room in there and we have 350 ppl all crammed into the tiny hat shop with a couple hand fulls of ppl spread out through the rest of the place.

Btw I don't like to brag but I called it.

beacuse if you do this 25% of bombs to be dropped you won't get all the bombs you bought in the first place. if you go after the person you killed since they will drop 25% of their bombs which doesn't equal what you had before and in towers the spawns aren't where you died.

I just dont think it will play well.

This will reduce the spammers at all, which is a great reason to add it in my mind. Also, other players won't have to buy bombs/arrows all the time while others, which just spam their swords or weapons, will have a hard time. It brings a bit of what you call "skills" when PKing.

Yeah I remember when gralats dropped for quite abit when I was pking I earned like 10k out of people lmao, I thought it was gnna be big update and the bank finally be there to use.. but hey guess not.

It's official!! Not sure how I feel about it yet, but it should be interesting :D

This will just make members pk each other to get bombs or arrows. This idea is dumb.

Plus some users buy gralats with real money and use it for bombs at towers.

lol no

yes
I used to do it.

That's hilarious. I'm going to buy a gralat pack 3 just for bomb money.