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HON3Y BADG3R 08-04-2013 07:57 PM

A way to reduce hat chasers
 
Ok so i came up with an idea:

A player can only have one guild hat at a time. This means, if they hat chase, theyll have to give up their old one.

The only exception is if they have the 1k and 5k of the SAME guild.

MrSimons 08-04-2013 08:46 PM

or they could remove 1k hats :0

unfortunately any ideas preventing 'hat chasing' will never be implemented.

Darklink 08-04-2013 09:39 PM

Here's another idea:
Ignore em :/

Blueh 08-04-2013 10:08 PM

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Posted by Darklink (Post 396397)
Here's another idea:
Ignore em :/

Tried it. Didn't work. Everybody still doesn't like them.

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 396380)
unfortunately any ideas preventing 'hat chasing' will never be implemented.

I'm hoping for something like Rufus's GST plan where you require a certain amount of activity in the guild first.

MattKan 08-04-2013 11:08 PM

What is so bad about 'hat chasing'? If it doesn't suit your guild, then don't do it. Otherwise it's pretty harmless and affects you about this much:

*silence*

eevee2 08-05-2013 01:53 AM

I don't know whats the problem with hat chaser...
After all you we are all joining for hats!
And they help way more then alot of peeps so :3

meganey98 08-05-2013 03:23 AM

You know having a hat that represents your guild is a really great idea, but having this tones of list of guilds which I find annoying. I agree with Honey Badger, we all must loyal to one guild and if you don't like it you must leave to join another. It will be hard to change but this is getting one step closer to the future. It must be fixed.
It will make easier to take towers. So newby guilds can settle into the fights. Instead of asking people to join everyday.

Jester Lapse 08-05-2013 07:36 AM

You know a way to reduce hat chasers?
Remove hats.

Kiwi 08-05-2013 08:16 AM

I'd still like to see them remove 1k hats altogether, and make a limit on how many people can get rewards. Like the first 5 to 50k get the rewards - no one else, and so on. Not everyone gets the hats, there's still an incentive to play, and it's like a race. Guilds could also be commemorated in some sort of "guild hall", where the first to each goals get displayed.

Blueh 08-05-2013 01:54 PM

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Posted by MattKan (Post 396431)
What is so bad about 'hat chasing'? If it doesn't suit your guild, then don't do it. Otherwise it's pretty harmless and affects you about this much:

*silence*

Creates favoritism. A player who helped 800 hours of the way can be taken off the hat list because the leader wants his lazy friend who didn't join/help at all to receive it. It's happened countless of times and it's always the same people who are involved.

AimeeAdelphos 08-05-2013 02:35 PM

Ahh and then there's Vlad whom threatened to kick everyone from ET if he didn't receive Wicked hat..

Thallen 08-05-2013 02:58 PM

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Posted by AimeeAdelphos (Post 396708)
Ahh and then there's Vlad whom threatened to kick everyone from ET if he didn't receive Wicked hat..

Even if this did happen, so? He gave them the option at least, if they thought poorly of it then just leave the guild.

Breezy 08-05-2013 03:15 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 396709)
Even if this did happen, so? He gave them the option at least, if they thought poorly of it then just leave the guild.

Are you supporting his decision?

Thallen 08-05-2013 03:48 PM

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Posted by Breezy (Post 396713)
Are you supporting his decision?

I don't even know what that's about, I don't know the situation. All I know is, how can you complain about the actions of a guild leader when you could just as easily leave the guild if you don't like something they say or do? He threatened to kick people out of his guild if some member of his guild doesn't give him a hat he doesn't deserve? Okay, so leave the guild? Honestly, I'd say the leader of Wicked is the one in the wrong in this situation for (allegedly) leaving a deserving member out of the hat reward to give it to Vlad. What a wuss.

It's your own faults for giving guild leaders the power over you to do things like that. It's like the guilds who say "TAG 24/7 OMG OR KICK," if you really have to say that stuff then your guild probably sucks.

eevee2 08-05-2013 04:03 PM

Deleting 1k hat wouldn't be a great idea,
even editing how you can get the hat wouldn't be a great idea since alot of person are just there for the hats, Classic would loose alot of player :/
And hat chasers are there for hats,
They try their best to get it so they get the guild alot of hours :3
In Reborn there was guy who had alot of 1k hats(RAGING HAT CHASER OF THE DEATH xD)
He made us get 300 hours faster then alot of perm.
He was so raging when other got the 1k hat,
So the leader and I told him that he already have alot of 1k hat(I think he had like 8 1k hats o_o) he doesn't need another one, and anyway the guy only helped 300 hours xD
But deleting 1k hats, or making that you can get only one 1k hats would be a disaster after the Revolution that openened, and the Pker everywhere trying to kill you to get arrows and bombs. Too much player would stop playing Classic to get on Era, Zone or Deltaria.

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 396622)
You know a way to reduce hat chasers?
Remove hats.

That's impossible xD
Classic is the Hats server xD
If you remove hats Classic has nothing...

Jester Lapse 08-05-2013 04:35 PM

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Posted by eevee2 (Post 396725)
If you remove hats Classic has nothing...

LOL

eevee2 08-05-2013 04:56 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 396743)
LOL

Well Jester you have to admit that Classic need to have hats.
Or Classic doesn't have anything xD

Thallen 08-05-2013 05:07 PM

The only makes sense when you consider that hats are practically the only material achievement or form of reward on the server. So, in a way, yeah, that's sort of true.

eevee2 08-05-2013 05:29 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 396758)
The only makes sense when you consider that hats are practically the only material achievement or form of reward on the server. So, in a way, yeah, that's sort of true.

^_^
Atleast I guess 1 person understand what I mean :3

Jester Lapse 08-05-2013 06:31 PM

I was laughing because it's true.

GOAT 08-06-2013 03:23 AM

lol wow this noob thread full of noobs.

Ivy 08-06-2013 04:52 AM

Why can't we just ip track then murder the hat chasers ;-;

eevee2 08-06-2013 01:41 PM

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Posted by Shadowfox (Post 396938)
Why can't we just ip track then murder the hat chasers ;-;

Well guilds needs hours... if you become the new militia your guild will be full of hat chaser... but you'll get to 1k fast :3
It's like Gem this morning Gem had 3 towers...
Something we haven't seen for a while...

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 396787)
I was laughing because it's true.

Lawl :3

Vladdy 08-06-2013 02:21 PM

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Posted by AimeeAdelphos (Post 396708)
Ahh and then there's Vlad whom threatened to kick everyone from ET if he didn't receive Wicked hat..

Lol? And where did you hear this from? I very much would rather keep my memebers over a hat. I wouldn't go into the extreme and threaten to kick anyone like that. They offered me the hat so why not? I never asked/threatened, you can ask Ryfly if you'd like. I lost all my respects towards you, Aimee. Don't go around and give out false impressions of me when you don't even know the background.

ufoburan 08-07-2013 08:07 AM

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Posted by Vladdy (Post 397088)
Lol? And where did you hear this from? I very much would rather keep my memebers over a hat. I wouldn't go into the extreme and threaten to kick anyone like that. They offered me the hat so why not? I never asked/threatened, you can ask Ryfly if you'd like. I lost all my respects towards you, Aimee. Don't go around and give out false impressions of me when you don't even know the background.

Just wondering since there was so much drama,rumors,ect. about this did the admins do their jobs and investigate?

I have heard stuff like this since joining towering guilds. I am pretty sure I have mentioned several times there should be away to track the length of time someone was in a guild reguardless of being kicked for space or anything. I never heard anyone else say anything else about tracking hours on a guild tag till Blueh said something about rufus's gst plan in this thread. I have seen in other threads about a possible guild update. Can somebody post a link with more info about that or for rufus's gst plan?

IMO the way to fix this is anyone who meets a minimum hour requirement (which should be over 100 hours IMO) would get the hat even if this is more than 25 ppl. To avoid the above mentioned situation from happening IMO guild leads should never of had the ability to select 25 ppl of their choice for a "hat list".

eevee2 08-07-2013 09:47 PM

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Posted by ufoburan (Post 397353)
Just wondering since there was so much drama,rumors,ect. about this did the admins do their jobs and investigate?

I have heard stuff like this since joining towering guilds. I am pretty sure I have mentioned several times there should be away to track the length of time someone was in a guild reguardless of being kicked for space or anything. I never heard anyone else say anything else about tracking hours on a guild tag till Blueh said something about rufus's gst plan in this thread. I have seen in other threads about a possible guild update. Can somebody post a link with more info about that or for rufus's gst plan?

IMO the way to fix this is anyone who meets a minimum hour requirement (which should be over 100 hours IMO) would get the hat even if this is more than 25 ppl. To avoid the above mentioned situation from happening IMO guild leads should never of had the ability to select 25 ppl of their choice for a "hat list".

*I didn't read everything so if what I am writing is in your post then oups*
But in the past there was less complain about the 1k hat, because 40 person could get the 1k hat... it was better actually because there was less drama to get the hat and all that stuff :3

Crag 08-08-2013 02:46 AM

*Sigh*

Why can't "hat chasers" just chase hats without negative scrutiny from those who don't like them? This game has almost NOTHING in the way of long term gameplay goals, and 1k hats are just that: goals for those with lots of time.

1k hats do not harm ANY of you, no exception. Stop complaining about them, please.

PennyShine 08-08-2013 03:01 AM

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Posted by Crag (Post 397567)
*Sigh*

Why can't "hat chasers" just chase hats without negative scrutiny from those who don't like them? This game has almost NOTHING in the way of long term gameplay goals, and 1k hats are just that: goals for those with lots of time.

1k hats do not harm ANY of you, no exception. Stop complaining about them, please.

Because it's happened countless times where someone has been a very loyal member of a certain guild and has helped for 800 hours of the way. Then some random hat chaser shows up at 930 hours and gets the hat instead of the person who actually deserved it. Or the leader decides to give the hat to their friends who never helped. And then this drama repeats at least 5 more times because instead of trying to go further than 1k with the same guild, they continue making more 1k guilds with the same people after they get to 1k with one guild. Honestly, I think they either need to remove 1k hats completely or provide some incentive to go past 1k.

twilit 08-08-2013 04:13 AM

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Posted by ufoburan (Post 397353)
Just wondering since there was so much drama,rumors,ect. about this did the admins do their jobs and investigate?

This isnt CSI: Graal. PR Staffs' job is to use the ban hammer on glitchers and hackers. Thats it.

Thallen 08-08-2013 12:20 PM

You guys approach this situation as if it's the staff's duty to eliminate "hat chasers" when really it's just your own opinions and desires that have to be sorted out within the player community.

Crono 08-08-2013 12:22 PM

oh you guys~

Ph8 08-08-2013 12:35 PM

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Posted by PennyShine (Post 397572)
...instead of trying to go further than 1k with the same guild, they continue making more 1k guilds with the same people after they get to 1k with one guild. Honestly, I think they either need to remove 1k hats completely or provide some incentive to go past 1k.

It is pretty dumb that people just make/join new guilds for the sake of getting to 1000 hours. Maybe just make it so your guild gets a hat every thousand hours earned?

Thallen 08-08-2013 03:32 PM

The whole guild system should be restructured to follow the seasonal system of the GST. Every 3 months, the guild with the most hours should be given the rights to give out hats to 20 members or something. Rehashing guilds over and over is boring.

*Rose 08-08-2013 04:02 PM

If a hat chaser is going to help tower so be it >:0

Mejico Josh 08-08-2013 04:59 PM

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Posted by AimeeAdelphos (Post 396708)
Ahh and then there's Vlad whom threatened to kick everyone from ET if he didn't receive Wicked hat..

This is bs and i dont evan have to ask vlad why becuase you yourself are a hat chaser and how do i know this well you and your friend liz both have guilds named after yourselves and both have 1k and guess what they then stopped oh the shock

eevee2 08-08-2013 09:25 PM

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Posted by Mejico Jøsh (Post 397714)
This is bs and i dont evan have to ask vlad why becuase you yourself are a hat chaser and how do i know this well you and your friend liz both have guilds named after yourselves and both have 1k and guess what they then stopped oh the shock

Lol hat chaser are useful! They help alot and sometime they will even try to get a tower by themself xD So I don't see why you guys are all like: Reduce Hat Chasers!, after all in Nexus what can you buy? Hats. In rev what can you buy? Hats. And your asking to people to not be a hat chaser?

Thallen 08-08-2013 09:47 PM

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Posted by Mejico Jøsh (Post 397714)
This is bs and i dont evan have to ask vlad why becuase you yourself are a hat chaser and how do i know this well you and your friend liz both have guilds named after yourselves and both have 1k and guess what they then stopped oh the shock

handled

ZigZag44 08-08-2013 10:31 PM

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Posted by Mejico Jøsh (Post 397714)
This is bs and i dont evan have to ask vlad why becuase you yourself are a hat chaser and how do i know this well you and your friend liz both have guilds named after yourselves and both have 1k and guess what they then stopped oh the shock

dont forget they took over Vintage and got 1k and3k hat!

Skill 08-08-2013 11:10 PM

IMO the best thing to do for hat guilds would be to develop a system where you have to be on tag to wear the hat.

Vladdy 08-08-2013 11:26 PM

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Posted by Mejico Jøsh (Post 397714)
This is bs and i dont evan have to ask vlad why becuase you yourself are a hat chaser and how do i know this well you and your friend liz both have guilds named after yourselves and both have 1k and guess what they then stopped oh the shock

^^^

Mentos 08-09-2013 12:34 AM

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Posted by Skill (Post 397810)
IMO the best thing to do for hat guilds would be to develop a system where you have to be on tag to wear the hat.

I second this.

PennyShine 08-09-2013 01:35 AM

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Posted by Skill (Post 397810)
IMO the best thing to do for hat guilds would be to develop a system where you have to be on tag to wear the hat.

I would agree with this, but what if the leader decided to kick everyone? It would be too easy for the leader to cheat people out of the hat.

Haze 08-09-2013 02:56 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 397694)
The whole guild system should be restructured to follow the seasonal system of the GST. Every 3 months, the guild with the most hours should be given the rights to give out hats to 20 members or something.

I agree with this, if a way to count how much time a player has spent at tower was implemented and the hat was given to the 20-25 members with the most time.

ufoburan 08-09-2013 08:20 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 397694)
The whole guild system should be restructured to follow the seasonal system of the GST. Every 3 months, the guild with the most hours should be given the rights to give out hats to 20 members or something. Rehashing guilds over and over is boring.

I thought we all agreed this wasn't do able because of dominant guilds like SON that camp at towers 24/7. All this would do is make all the ppl who like to tower cram into a handful of guilds instead of having lots of guilds. This would cause even more drama.

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Posted by Skill (Post 397810)
IMO the best thing to do for hat guilds would be to develop a system where you have to be on tag to wear the hat.

This I like,but what the other dude said was right,what happens if the ppl who got the hat get kicked off the tag? This might be doable if they made the "Hat list" into its own guild tag with the guilds name in it and the date the milestone was reached. Maybe on the guild list screen the tag could have its own color and or markings to show it was a reward. For example: the tag would read UFO1k 8/9/13 and the lettering would be gold. It would look the same for all the milestone rewards with the guild name then the tower time noting the accomplishment.

If they added dates to the reward tags they could easily see who got a reward tag and on what date. Then limit ppl to only being able to recieve 2 a year,or 1 every 6 mos unless its a new milestone reward on the same tag. That way when a guild leader submits his hat list the admins can see if somebody on there hat list has reward tags and make the leader remove and replace them.

iHot 08-09-2013 08:38 AM

I say we make a guild an take the castle from SON!!!

Talon 08-09-2013 08:43 AM

Just ignore them, let them do whatever they want. If they'd rather waste hundreds of hours defending a tower on an iPhone game for a little cluster of pixels, far be it from me to stop that.

Striken 08-09-2013 07:42 PM

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Posted by AimeeAdelphos (Post 396708)
Ahh and then there's Vlad whom threatened to kick everyone from ET if he didn't receive Wicked hat..

That's old and lame, ever since wicked, no one helps Pig or Ryfly so it's been handled.

ufoburan 08-10-2013 06:38 AM

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Posted by iHot (Post 397960)
I say we make a guild an take the castle from SON!!!

Many have tried all have failed

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Posted by Striken (Post 398064)
That's old and lame, ever since wicked, no one helps Pig or Ryfly so it's been handled.

There are a lot more hat chasers than just those two. They just got themselves well known for it.

ufoburan 08-14-2013 07:01 AM

After watching Idiotic hat chasers from the dumb event guilds screw up events over the last week. I'm thinking they need to add something that shows who won an event hat and when so the admins can better weed out the greedy assholes from the event guilds. Who don't bother looking at the hat the admin is wearing,and run to the warper like a fat kid runs to cake.

Everybody who has been playing more than a day should be aware of the whole you cant win a hat you all ready have rule. So quit being a jackass and doing events when you know you cant win that hat and cause the admin to stop running the event and screw the other players out of a chance for the hat.

Ivy 08-14-2013 04:30 PM

Maybe they play them because there's little to nothing to do on the server and they eed something to entertain them


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