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Zero02 11-22-2011 10:35 PM

Era Political Corruption
 
Do you believe that there any problem with Era Government?

NCJohn 11-22-2011 10:43 PM

You should probably define what exactly "corruption' in the staff is. In reall politics corruption is usually based around either when a government official is involved in some sort of sex or fraud scandal or when they are caught trying to cheat their way back into office. Considering that staff doesnt get paid nor have sex amongst each other (as far as we know ;d) I dont know if you could necessarily label it as corruption. If you mean does the staff act unfairly and give friends benefits, then no I dont think they really do compared to classic :p.

Zero02 11-22-2011 10:44 PM

A lot players say it is.

NCJohn 11-22-2011 10:46 PM

Well then they probably don't know what corruption exactly is. They probably mean that staff is biased towards their friends, which I do admit takes place occasionally.

Zero02 11-22-2011 10:47 PM

oh.............well, thats why i added the "I don't know" button

NCJohn 11-22-2011 10:57 PM

lol yeah thats always a good option.

HappyCat123 11-23-2011 12:09 AM

Most of the people who say staff are 'corupted' are the people that are bitches to the staff.They ask for something, they say no, they insult them, then say they're corupt or evil or something.

Zero02 11-23-2011 12:10 AM

Interesting view HappyCat

HappyCat123 11-23-2011 01:10 AM

Yeah, the truth is interesting, isin't it.

Higbey 11-23-2011 01:57 AM

There's a difference between those against staff abuse and between the immature ones asking for stuff and going all sour grapes on staff,

Billy 11-23-2011 02:04 AM

Hmmm...It's mostly newbs who get mad because they can't get anything :P

Rexx 11-23-2011 02:06 AM

are you making a thread about the governing system (era staff) being corrupt just for the sake of it or do you even have legitimate reasons to pose this question?

Zero02 11-23-2011 02:09 AM

Well, i not being biased (which some people claim i am). I just want to know where do players mostly agree the idea.

MrSimons 11-23-2011 02:11 AM

Ya HappyCat is right the whole "corrupt" stuff is a bunch of raging kids mad cause they didn't win an event or something. If you want to see corrupt staff try iClassic.

Zero02 11-23-2011 02:15 AM

So i guess everyone here is in agreement that Homeless Witch is not corrupted?

NCJohn 11-23-2011 03:09 AM

Well it depends on what your defenition of corrupted is. If you mean corrupted as in evil and plotting against others for self gain then no, she isn't. If you mean corrupted as in biased towards friends and showing favoritism, perhaps.

Higbey 11-23-2011 03:11 AM

Wasn't she the one hired because she was the virtual gf of some guy that was staff?

Zero02 11-23-2011 03:25 AM

interesting, this will surely help next week news

Regretness 11-23-2011 03:37 AM

oookkkkk. Im not a noob but admins can be annoying at times when abusing powers or setting lag on its max. I voted for unfair because they are going waaaaayyyyyya out of porportion. If you make someone an admin, they will think that they are the king and we are there slaves. Its ok to me if theres a problem but something that doesnt feel right. Old era felt like an epic game that needs improvement but im just not so sure. I want that old feeling back full of fairness and friendship. We would also know what guns and melee are comin out too but sometimes surprises can get very crazy.

Heres the thing. Admins have the power to post, host, fix, and help but some dont do there job as often.


Im hoping if this message is right and im not being offensive to the admins, this is just a warning

NCJohn 11-23-2011 03:39 AM

Yeah higbey she was and still is dating auron, a PRA. In my opinion there needs to be some sort of code of conduct or policy that states that staff aren't allowed to date. Especially a pr and their boss.

Zero02 11-23-2011 03:43 AM

And aside this, i heard some admins got fired. I know Doc got fired but is it true that castor got fired?

Chaotic 11-23-2011 04:41 AM

Jerry Sandusky 4 Staff

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Posted by Regretness (Post 35815)
If you make someone an admin, they will think that they are the king and we are there slaves

Definately not.

See, staff were idolized by players when iGraal first came out, because they could do stuff they can't. This want to do what players could not do turned staff into a sort of godlike figure on the iGraal worlds, and it goes to players heads. Staff are hired for a reason, and for the most part, they wont let it go to their head and abuse their powers. They dont think that they are kings, but players seem to think they are kings. They're just normal people like you and me, helping to improve the game we all love*. They don't think highly of themselves, but players think highly of them.



*Eh....

Thunderstorm 11-23-2011 05:36 AM

I think some admins are and some are not 'corrupt'. I definitely think some admins are biased and help friends I mean if you are good friends with an admin that gives you a pretty good chance of getting hired *cough HW cough*. I mean you only have to look in general shops around iEra to see statues of admin friends and even on THIS site to see that their is favouritism. But in saying this their are some great staff out there doing there job, helping players.

btw whats with the staff cutback? Vman apparently quit, Doc fired? Castor fired? Homeless Witch? There the latest rumours going around....

maystro 11-23-2011 07:46 PM

:O doc fired

DragonRider 11-23-2011 08:04 PM

Well, there is some, but not a lot. Which incident am I referring to? The PK Zone thread. A lot of people cleary stated, "we want it the way it is" yet snk just went ahead and removed them when one person, AKA Froggy Kreuger asked him.

Maikeru 11-23-2011 08:30 PM

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Posted by Zero02 (Post 35794)
So i guess everyone here is in agreement that Homeless Witch is not corrupted?

Why do you people always hate on the admins!? How does it reflect you on playing the game!? Are you like those people that do nothing in their spare time but watch admins doing random stuff!?

Seriously, shut up and just play the game. Don't criticize on the admins unless its pure cruelty and it affects players like you or someone else in a huge way for a less acceptable reason.

And dear god, if you think the admins aren't doing a good job, Just report it to the Era staff email with reasonable evidence

Regretness 11-23-2011 08:30 PM

Doc- Hacked snk's Facebook account

Dont ya think hes crazy for doing that?

MattKan 11-23-2011 08:42 PM

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Posted by Regretness (Post 36061)
Doc- Hacked snk's Facebook account

Dont ya think hes crazy for doing that?

Doc also destroyed my noob server a while back and was global banned for a month and a half. He has his days off...

Kavan 11-23-2011 08:59 PM

Corrupt admins.
I see that every time I walk around on Era.

Everyone's using the word completely out of context. To most people on Era, Era administration is corrupt because they don't give out freebies upon request, they don't have the time to host events because they're busy with other more important matters such as developing new content for Era, they don't answer PMs all the time because they're constantly flooded with PMs with pointless and unnecessary messages.

The only way we could fix this problem would be to fill the whole city with so much freebies that you'd experience a massive lagfest in an attempt to grab the most you could, and devote the entire administration team to events 24/7 to keep up with player demands around the clock (That's what the events bot is for).
This, I hope you realise, would make a lot of the players not want to play the game anymore, as they wouldn't have to work for anything as they've already got it all, as would everyone else which would make the competetiveness of the game completely void, and so there would be a massive decline in players, which I'm sure none of you want.

Now, we would be corrupt for banning people for no reason and just abusing our powers on the players for the sheer enjoyment of it, which, last time I checked, none of us were doing, so there is no reason to be calling us corrupt. Giving out freebies is corrupt (minus the freebie system).

If you're feeling like you're in a "tl;dr" mood and you didn't read any of the above, I'll summarize by saying that Era administration is in no way corrupt, and asking for and receiving freebies will only bring about the downfall of the game, which I'm sure absolutely none of you would want.

b00m.
Argument over. I win.

Fuzz 11-23-2011 09:12 PM

[QUOTE=Kavan;36075][I]Corrupt admins.[/I
To most people on Era, Era administration is corrupt because they don't give out freebies upon request, they don't have the time to host events because they're busy with other more important matters such as developing new content for Era, they don't answer PMs all the time because they're constantly flooded with PMs with pointless and unnecessary messages.
QUOTE]

Lol not everyone is getting free rare items or personal events

Snowbreeze 11-23-2011 09:17 PM

http://oi41.tinypic.com/rsvuy1.jpg
This made me laugh.

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Posted by Higbey (Post 35812)
Wasn't she the one hired because she was the virtual gf of some guy that was staff?

Yes, exactly.

Vman13x 11-23-2011 10:36 PM

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Posted by NCJohn (Post 35817)
Yeah higbey she was and still is dating auron, a PRA. In my opinion there needs to be some sort of code of conduct or policy that states that staff aren't allowed to date. Especially a pr and their boss.

Pretty sure they know each other in real life. If not, oh well.

You take this game way too seriously if you even have that opinion. Even though I think its pretty stupid to date or marry someone on a game, your rule is not needed.

From my time working with HW, I saw nothing that even led to me thinking she shouldn't be there. Of course, there are those who feel otherwise, but those are the people who don't understand iEra's politics.

NCJohn 11-23-2011 11:13 PM

Quote:

Posted by Vman13x (Post 36108)
Pretty sure they know each other in real life. If not, oh well.

You take this game way too seriously if you even have that opinion. Even though I think its pretty stupid to date or marry someone on a game, your rule is not needed.

From my time working with HW, I saw nothing that even led to me thinking she shouldn't be there. Of course, there are those who feel otherwise, but those are the people who don't understand iEra's politics.

Not once did I mention that HW was only hired because she is dating auron. Nor did I say that I disapprove of her work. I only suggested this policy because it would limit players from accusing the staff as "corrupt". If you think I take graal way too seriously, then so be it. Others may think the same and im sure most people take graal too seriously in your opinion as well. Whats your opinion to me anyway?

Katniss 11-24-2011 01:36 AM

I personally think Homeless was hired because she makes a good staff member, in what I have seen. She's mature and responsible and does what she needs to do. Simple enough.

Zero02 11-24-2011 01:52 AM

reason i asked this is because i want ppl opinion and no, i not being biased on this because i would have voted

Jester Lapse 11-24-2011 04:02 AM

What are your guys views on HW allowing her friends to get items the easy ways?

Kane 11-24-2011 04:21 AM

BTW, i'm the one who hired HomelessWitch so the whole "because they dating in-game" is pretty dumb lol.

Also, we always check to see what the staff members do, nothing big or even a little suspicious of staff members giving their friends items =)

Jester Lapse 11-24-2011 04:22 AM

Really. Then explain the pictures :o

Higbey 11-24-2011 04:24 AM

Quote:

Posted by Herb_P2P
BTW, i'm the one who hired HomelessWitch so the whole "because they dating in-game" is pretty dumb lol.

Also, we always check to see what the staff members do, nothing big or even a little suspicious of staff members giving their friends items =)

And let me guess. You knew about her because of her being with auron?

Kane 11-24-2011 04:29 AM

No, because I went over her application and liked it, and put it into the group of applicants i wanted to hire.

Zero02 11-24-2011 04:37 AM

I never thought one simple poll would take the seriousness of the government of Era


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