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Striken 09-04-2013 09:47 PM

Spar "Boosting"
 
I doubt many of you know who "Jamie" is, but she's currently #3 on the PC Leaderboard. Now, I've had an argument with her since I knew well enough she doesn't spar on pc, nor is she good enough to go 100-10 for her to get 819-819 and to get #3. She claims herself that "eko" has sparred for her then claims that what happened isn't boosting. I'm not 100% sure on whether it would be classified as boosting or not, but I'm pretty sure it's at least boosting.

Strap 09-04-2013 10:07 PM

Report her then in-game

Winter 09-04-2013 10:19 PM

i'm #3 now BOOYAH

I helped teach Jamie how to spar a bit better. I think she's been improving and your math is incorrect. People often jump the gun on this topic... Although, nobody ever knows for sure. You can assume what you want until you catch her in the act.

Striken 09-04-2013 10:27 PM

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Posted by Winter (Post 407043)
i'm #3 now BOOYAH

I helped teach Jamie how to spar a bit better. I think she's been improving and your math is incorrect. People often jump the gun on this topic... Although, nobody ever knows for sure. You can assume what you want until you catch her in the act.

Regardless, she doesn't spar on PC, nor did she spar for herself. She got someone else to spar for her just so she can get a 1:1 ratio.

Natso 09-04-2013 10:38 PM

Hmm if you let someone on your account so they can soar on it that dose t really count as boosting , boosting is when you get a second account and let your self get free spars/kills from it ...

Striken 09-04-2013 10:55 PM

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Posted by Natso (Post 407051)
Hmm if you let someone on your account so they can soar on it that dose t really count as boosting , boosting is when you get a second account and let your self get free spars/kills from it ...

The concept is still the same thing since she's not the one sparring for herself.

Natso 09-04-2013 11:38 PM

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Posted by Striken (Post 407063)
The concept is still the same thing since she's not the one sparring for herself.

Not really cuz no one is allowing we to get free spar wins , even knowing the person is on her account but he still needs to legibly win the match to raise her spar rating , so basically he/ she still win the spar legibly with the skill they have therefore its bit boasting


Lets put it on a concept of a diff game

FIFA : if Some one comes around ou house or is on you account and wins a match for you it wouldn't be cheating would it ? Becouse Simone still had to achieve the win

Cod : if someone goes on your accound an raises your kd legibly it's not boosting , and by letting a player do this you also run the risk of them lowering your kd

Striken 09-04-2013 11:41 PM

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Posted by Natso (Post 407087)
Not really cuz no one is allowing we to get free spar wins , even knowing the person is on her account but he still needs to legibly win the match to raise her spar rating , so basically he/ she still win the spar legibly with the skill they have therefore its bit boasting


Lets put it on a concept of a diff game

FIFA : if Some one comes around ou house or is on you account and wins a match for you it wouldn't be cheating would it ? Becouse Simone still had to achieve the win

Cod : if someone goes on your accound an raises your kd legibly it's not boosting , and by letting a player do this you also run the risk of them lowering your kd

Those concepts are bad. Take "League of Legends" for a better example. People pay pros to go on their accounts and play for them so they can get a better elo which is basically their ranked rating. The same case happened here except there was no payment and she got #3 on PC and didn't do the sparring. If you really can't understand this, don't post.

Dawnstar 09-04-2013 11:42 PM

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Posted by Natso (Post 407087)
Not really cuz no one is allowing we to get free spar wins , even knowing the person is on her account but he still needs to legibly win the match to raise her spar rating , so basically he/ she still win the spar legibly with the skill they have therefore its bit boasting


Lets put it on a concept of a diff game

FIFA : if Some one comes around ou house or is on you account and wins a match for you it wouldn't be cheating would it ? Becouse Simone still had to achieve the win

Cod : if someone goes on your accound an raises your kd legibly it's not boosting , and by letting a player do this you also run the risk of them lowering your kd

Then I would want to spar the guy who's winning/raising stats for you.

Tricxta 09-04-2013 11:44 PM

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Posted by Striken (Post 407030)
I doubt many of you know who "Jamie" is, but she's currently #3 on the PC Leaderboard. Now, I've had an argument with her since I knew well enough she doesn't spar on pc, nor is she good enough to go 100-10 for her to get 819-819 and to get #3. She claims herself that "eko" has sparred for her then claims that what happened isn't boosting. I'm not 100% sure on whether it would be classified as boosting or not, but I'm pretty sure it's at least boosting.

You're just jelly.

Natso 09-04-2013 11:46 PM

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Posted by Dawnstar (Post 407091)
Then I would want to spar the guy who's winning/raising stats for you.

Nothing stopping you

The Troll 09-04-2013 11:50 PM

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Posted by Natso (Post 407087)
Not really cuz no one is allowing we to get free spar wins , even knowing the person is on her account but he still needs to legibly win the match to raise her spar rating , so basically he/ she still win the spar legibly with the skill they have therefore its bit boasting


Lets put it on a concept of a diff game

FIFA : if Some one comes around ou house or is on you account and wins a match for you it wouldn't be cheating would it ? Becouse Simone still had to achieve the win

Cod : if someone goes on your accound an raises your kd legibly it's not boosting , and by letting a player do this you also run the risk of them lowering your kd

Then I can't give you credit for all of those games won. The guy who won the games for you will receive my respect.

Striken 09-04-2013 11:52 PM

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Posted by Tricxta (Post 407092)
You're just jelly.

So you instantly assume I'm jealous that some girl gets her spar stats up from some guy who's thirsty for some graal booty? You must be cute, especially since you use the word 'jelly'. If you're really trying to insult me, you're gonna have to try a bit harder and use sophisticated words.

Natso 09-04-2013 11:53 PM

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Posted by The Troll (Post 407096)
Then I can't give you credit for all of those games won. The guy who won the games for you will receive my respect.

That's one way of putting it , but you can't call it boosting can you

The Troll 09-04-2013 11:54 PM

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Posted by Natso (Post 407098)
That's one way of putting it , but you can't call it boosting can you

No. But it's boosting in a way without using the term boosting.

Striken 09-04-2013 11:57 PM

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Posted by The Troll (Post 407099)
No. But it's boosting in a way without suing the term boosting.

He's not intelligent, you can't talk sense into him. It's boosting actually since you're not the one getting the wins yourself when it's indeed your account. Nobody really realizes any of this stuff.

Aaron 09-05-2013 03:31 AM

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Posted by Natso (Post 407094)
Nothing stopping you

Illegal to share accounts in the first place.


Anyways, Jaime is not exactly consistently good at spar. She wasn't exactly the challenge when I sparred her when I logged on after being inactive for about a month or so. Maybe she selectively spars less experienced players, which isn't a bad thing at all. I'm not accusing her of anything. Just keep in mind, all that really counts for others to acknowledge is the GST, and if she doesn't do well there, then all her sparring is for not.

Natso 09-05-2013 05:26 PM

Boosting exact meaning : getting free spar wins/ kills on you account with the cooperation of a second account

Letting someone get on you account and spar for you doesn't give your account free spar wins , this person also can lose so there is a risk and this person needs to earn the spar win legit

meganey98 09-05-2013 05:38 PM

Jamie recently got better at sparring, her defending skills are almost good as current top sparrers. I wonder why did you not make a thread for Sarah. She used to be negative like last year. She has 4:1 ratio now, and nobody really says anything about her. I hope you know that before you randomly make a thread make sure you have positive evidence you can prove. :P

Winter 09-05-2013 07:34 PM

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Posted by Striken (Post 407046)
Regardless, she doesn't spar on PC, nor did she spar for herself. She got someone else to spar for her just so she can get a 1:1 ratio.

She does spar on PC lol. And how could it have been someone else if I've been talking to her pretty much all the time in spar rooms, and even outside? You seem so sure of yourself.

Thallen 09-05-2013 07:56 PM

It's fairly obvious that it was probably someone else sparring for her, but it doesn't even matter because the leaderboards have had very little integrity for months anyway. The PC board has actually, but a little flop like that isn't going to offset much. It's dumb, but oh well.

It's a drop in the bucket compared to what I imagine people used to do when you could pause boost under the same IP and boost all day at spars like Sardon's, Angel Clan, etc.

P1 09-05-2013 08:49 PM

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Posted by meganey98 (Post 407274)
Jamie recently got better at sparring, her defending skills are almost good as current top sparrers. I wonder why did you not make a thread for Sarah. She used to be negative like last year. She has 4:1 ratio now, and nobody really says anything about her. I hope you know that before you randomly make a thread make sure you have positive evidence you can prove. :P

Take shots at him all you want for bringing this up but I know for a definite fact that he's absolutely right. Also the beyond terrible example you use of Sarah is irrelevant as it took her a lot more time to improve. You don't go from a terrible sparer like Jamie to a top 3 sparer in a months time, try putting your obvious bias to one side before you post.

Striken 09-05-2013 10:31 PM

@meganey98, You're very ignorant. You claim Jamie recently got better at sparring, but did you know that someone can't get instantly better at something on a different platform, have you taken that figure into account? Or Sarah for this case, she delays and walls and had a negative spar ratio but has a positive ratio now than a year ago. Compare Sarah to Jamie, Sarah spent a year to get positive while Jamie just got someone else to do it for her in a day. I don't have to talk about Sarah, or whoever the hell you want.

@Winter, You're very gullible. You're sounding like a 10 year old on the internet. You'll believe the fact that whoever is on Jamie's account is Jamie when in fact it's not Jamie but it's another person talking like Jamie.

I really hope some of you actually take some figures into account rather than just say your first thoughts. Think before acting, otherwise you'll just be speaking non-sense.

Natso 09-05-2013 11:58 PM

This is a haters thread based on Simone getting member at spar or a assumption of something that you call boosting but has nothing to do with boosting

Aaron 09-05-2013 11:59 PM

All in all, whoever you talk to on Graal, and Classic players are notorious for this, can never be truly trusted until you have met up in real life. Even when you absolutely sure that this person is who they say they are.

Colin 09-06-2013 12:02 AM

Please don't call her #3 Sparrer

You guys do realize leader boards do nothing and just go by whoever has won lately but no one stays permanently like she's not there anymore.

Why do you all get upset over stuff that doesn't concern you who cares if her ratio is 1:1 that doesn't even mean anything.

Thallen might not be #1 on leader board but he is #1 just shows the leader boards mean nothing, you look like fools crying about this situation.

PM her saying she's a noob and move on its a damn pixel game for god sakes

The Troll 09-06-2013 12:28 AM

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Posted by KaljaTheWizard (Post 407384)
Please don't call her #3 Sparrer

You guys do realize leader boards do nothing and just go by whoever has won lately but no one stays permanently like she's not there anymore.

Why do you all get upset over stuff that doesn't concern you who cares if her ratio is 1:1 that doesn't even mean anything.

Thallen might not be #1 on leader board but he is #1 just shows the leader boards mean nothing, you look like fools crying about this situation.

PM her saying she's a noob and move on its a damn pixel game for god sakes

You ain't all that.

Colin 09-06-2013 12:31 AM

I'm not trying to be all that.

I'm trying to say nothing you say here matters and no one even thinks she's good, it's all pointless talk. Just play your game and ignore her.

But I mean I'm pointlessly talking to you right now your name is "The Troll" for staters and you randomly feel the need to spark up an argument , trying being nice feels a lot better.

The Troll 09-06-2013 12:38 AM

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Posted by KaljaTheWizard (Post 407395)
I'm not trying to be all that.

I'm trying to say nothing you say here matters and no one even thinks she's good, it's all pointless talk. Just play your game and ignore her.

But I mean I'm pointlessly talking to you right now your name is "The Troll" for staters and you randomly feel the need to spark up an argument , trying being nice feels a lot better.

Duh. But you ain't all that.

Colin 09-06-2013 12:39 AM

Well mind explaining how I think "I'm all that"?

I don't see it.

The Troll 09-06-2013 12:41 AM

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Posted by KaljaTheWizard (Post 407399)
Well mind explaining how I think "I'm all that"?

I don't see it.

Lol. But you ain't all that.

Colin 09-06-2013 12:43 AM

So it's clear I'm talking with an uneducated person who can't even elaborate his own statement.

Good day/night everyone, unless someone says something topic related.

The Troll 09-06-2013 12:43 AM

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Posted by KaljaTheWizard (Post 407402)
So it's clear I'm talking with an uneducated person who can't even elaborate his own statement.

Good day/night everyone, unless someone says something topic related.

Hmph. But you ain't cool.


P.S: Lol. You're trying to end this thread but the problem is that you say "unless someone says something on topic". You want everyone to continue bashing a player. I'm trying to get this one closed by helping you out.

Aaron 09-06-2013 12:50 AM

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Posted by The Troll (Post 407404)
Hmph. But you ain't cool.


P.S: Lol. You're trying to end this thread but the problem is that you say "unless someone says something on topic". You want everyone to continue bashing a player. I'm trying to get this one closed by helping you out.

But...you attempted to start bashing Kalja first with you "you ain't all that that" statement. Am I right am I wrong?

The Troll 09-06-2013 12:51 AM

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Posted by Aaron (Post 407408)
But...you attempted to start bashing Kalja first with you "you ain't all that that" statement. Am I right am I wrong?

Yes that was yesterday. But not today.

Striken 09-06-2013 01:00 AM

You're both getting annoying. Take your argument to VMs, or PMs. Either discuss your opinion here on the topic, or get out.

The Troll 09-06-2013 01:01 AM

This topic is done. I'm gonna get this closed.

Fire Surge 09-06-2013 02:12 AM

Well, I had the pleasure of sparring her. She randomly started talking **** to me so when I ended up beating her 10-2, she was a tad upset. Then, it was as if she started sparring completely different, and brought the score up to 9-10. One thing is for sure, she couldn't get the amount of wins needed for positive that quickly.

I wouldn't be surprised if I sparred a different person the second time. Still, it isn't my concern whether it was or not. She's decent at spar but not "#3" material.

meganey98 09-06-2013 03:19 AM

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Posted by Striken (Post 407355)
I really hope some of you actually take some figures into account rather than just say your first thoughts. Think before acting, otherwise you'll just be speaking non-sense.

Fine Striken. If you still think Jamie boosted, show us your evidences. Not just judging from her spar record.

Stocke 09-06-2013 03:23 AM

I played Classic on Facebook for a week and was #1 everyday for PKing each day and for the week before I stopped playing. I was boosting, right?

Colin 09-06-2013 03:49 AM

You guys ever hear the term "alt account" she probably played on an alt to practice spar until she got good so she could do good on main account, that is what I did.

Striken 09-06-2013 04:30 AM

@Meganey98, here's your proof. She admitted it on a kik conversation.

http://i.imgur.com/QtCiiJf.png
http://i.imgur.com/CvRIbCa.png
http://i.imgur.com/pBszwIC.png

@KaljaTheWizard, that's a different thing. I saw her spar before she got boosted, she did terrible and barely managed a 10:1 ratio, but suddenly goes 100-10 the next day which is basically 10:1.

@Stocke, Pking is far much easier than sparring. All you have to do is spam and hit anyone that's 0.5, whereas with the spar leaderboards, your losses take you down in rankings whereas in pking, you don't go down, unless you decide to not pk.

Stocke 09-06-2013 04:58 AM

lol Don't call me a spammer. I don't just stand around waiting for people to be at 0.5, I'm the one that gets them that low.

I soloed MoD Fort, got a bunch of guild requests, rejected them all, and got called a "noob" as I slaughtered everyone.

Striken 09-06-2013 05:03 AM

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Posted by Stocke (Post 407561)
lol Don't call me a spammer. I don't just stand around waiting for people to be at 0.5, I'm the one that gets them that low.

I soloed MoD Fort, got a bunch of guild requests, rejected them all, and got called a "noob" as I slaughtered everyone.

Now you assume I'm calling you a spammer? I was simply putting out what everyone else does.

Anyone can solo Mod, and guild requests are natural since every guild is desperate for members so they'll invite anyone regardless of who they are, as for hate mail it goes the same in spar.

Stocke 09-06-2013 05:54 AM

Sparring is boring, though. Not enough action.

Striken 09-06-2013 06:19 AM

If anyone's interested, Soyi/Meganey98 is one feisty lady. She loves and I mean loves to rant on and on about random blabber. In fact, she claims Jamie will get a spar reset, and Eko will get a ban. If these events were to happen, the fun has already begun.

PumaD 09-06-2013 06:41 AM

How about you guys mind your own business?

Seriously, this thread is bull. She let someone else spar for her? She boosts/selectivly sparred? Who cares (you nerds obviously do). Report her in-game and leave it alone, instead of doing such a dumb and useless thread which'll probably hurt someones reputation only.

And just for your information, people can do 10-20 and the next day 100-0, it's called a "good run".

Stocke 09-06-2013 06:45 AM

Having a high spar rating doesn't win tournaments.

The Troll 09-06-2013 01:03 PM

"And just for your information, people can do 10-20 and the next day 100-0, it's called a "good run"."

You mean boost run?

Striken 09-06-2013 02:20 PM

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Posted by PumaD (Post 407610)
How about you guys mind your own business?

Seriously, this thread is bull. She let someone else spar for her? She boosts/selectivly sparred? Who cares (you nerds obviously do). Report her in-game and leave it alone, instead of doing such a dumb and useless thread which'll probably hurt someones reputation only.

And just for your information, people can do 10-20 and the next day 100-0, it's called a "good run".

I beg to differ. She's a terrible sparrer in general and you expect someone who doesn't spar on PC to go 100-10 suddenly? I even posted proof of her admitting to it.


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