(I enlarged the bottom so it could be easier to read and to make sure people can understand the situation)
How many times did we all say this!?!?
1.You didn't make any new hats for black Friday. You instead took the oldest of hats from a year or two ago and sold it for 10-20% of the prices (SCAM!)
2.All the holiday hunting hats are still being re-released over and over again (and so are the furniture)
3.Hide n seek hats are also going on sale.
Lemme explain this here and now from 2 previous quotes of mine:
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The admins have told players that hats cannot be added to the upload system, because the hats are supposed to still remain at a rare value. This is a problem considering the fact that admins are Re-Selling the old rare hats we kept as valuable items.
This pretty much makes no sense. If hats are going to lose their value, why not just make the upload system include hats for a cost of 20,000 gralats? If you're gonna destroy the value of hats, at least let us make our own. I don't mind if you sell them.
So how does this affect our graal classic community? The rarity of the hats decrease, as the value of the hats are destroyed and making them hard to find collectibles are now easy to find, making them not really rare at all. Everyone almost have the rare Leprechaun hat and im sure that some valuable halloween hats will be coming back on sale. Shocking
Now i know some people are gonna reply "Dude, let the new players earn these hats" or "Shouldn't we give all members a chance?". Please notice that its not only the new players that are paying but those that spend 1000+ hours spending their hard earned cash trying to be satisfied with the complete graal experience. If this keeps up, veteran graal players will stop paying the cash and stop hunting for these hats as they will be re-sold again.
So whats gonna happen now? Will the admins make a new hat system? Will admins sell/give more old rare hats again? Who knows... But i wanted to give in my honest opinion on this... Now you may comment
-Maikeru
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Ugh... Lemme point this out very clear...
If theres no hats, theres no updates to keep us accompany...
Therefore, it will upset players and have them make b*tchfits about updates! So be lucky we're getting player-uploaded hats weekly or Graal Classic will crash in the market terribly! Yes, News Flash: Hats are what keeps the game alive for a while..
Seriously, you players don't know what you're talking about... Hats are like achievements/collectibles! Some of them look awesome and some of them look bad. You wanna collect these hats, and match it with your clothing. I really love the hats more than the heads and bodies because its not really that common. some hats are really rare and makes other people jealous of you... Thats competition! xD
Don't you go one day like "Hey! I want that hat!" when you see some player with an awesome/good hat? Of course you do! That what makes the rarity of hats so exciting! You wanna have an inventory of like every hat so you can try to mix it up and make your unique outfit! You wanna keep collecting them and try experimenting them with new styles! Hat upload systems aren't fun at all because they're gonna be godly expensive (30,000 gralats per hat) and its not gonna be fun experimenting anymore Plus then it wouldn't make anything worth collecting anymore and then the game would be really boring!
And yes, i was stupid to put in a hat upload system for the votes.. Srsly, why do people want hat upload systems!? Keep the rarity of hats alive!
Now quotes from other players:
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Posted by TylerMyste
I honestly think old hats should be for old players. I would consider it a reward for remaining loyal and playing the game, but nope. Old hats are constantly sold at Nexus, Revolution, and Club Crypt. They should create an email where players can send hats other than [email protected] so new hats will be posted instead of old ones.
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Posted by Higbey
Yea I remember the leprechaun hat resell. And remember how they called the lava pet a limited edition and one time only thing? Then they released it again! Not only is over half the game about buying useless graphics, but they aren't even good at doing it!
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Posted by Rexx
yep the lava pet which I bought on impulse because it was suppose to be exclusive yet it has been sold again on more than a few occasions.
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Posted by Mr.Simons
I am 100% against re sells, I think if new players want hats buy one and wait till it disappears and becomes old.
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Posted by Callimuc
Resell them? No. Actually thats something older players can be prout of and kind of shows for how long you have been playing iClassic.
Keep them rare? Yes. No more explanation.
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Posted by DarkKnight
I'm so sad they rereleased the BTK Black Helm :(
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Posted by iHot
As i walked into the crowded nexus hat shop i saw ALL morphs for less money, the mask and cap at more then half off, all octos for 100 gralats and 3xor masks for 1k! Jolly good show admins! Your such hypocrites was it nyn i believe who said that "If hats are at a lower price their value will decrease." What the hell are you saying your selling a hood thats in snowtown for 10k and making it 2500! I know 5 people who bought the hat a couple of days before and they are pissed.
Now please take this into consideration before giving some smart alec remark on how im wrong and your right.
EDIT:oh right now that some older hats are cheaper and more avalible now more graalians will proclaim themselves veterans.
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Posted by Rexx
They're selling the black and red Xor mask for 1k!
(including a bunch of other old hats)
I bought it when it was first at Deadwood for Halloween over a year ago for 20k.
The rarity of it being a 20k+being over a year old down the drain.
why dont you just resell every old unsold hat at nexus...thanks for undercutting your old and loyal players
oh and the cap n mask is once again present, ruining it for anyone who was around for snowtown
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Posted by Rexx
or when the hood was a prestigious hat only won in spar...
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Posted by TylerMyste
I was very pissed off when I saw all the hats I loved sold for a much lower price then when I bought them. It's bad enough they were in there, but the fact that the items prices were much lower made it even worse. I know its Black Friday and everything, but couldn't they have used new hats instead of old ones? I'm sure many people were angry to see this.
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Posted by MattKan
Yeah, I can understand why players are angry.
Not only are the prices unreasonable, but they pay $10-20 for stuff and then it gets resold for $1.
That's ridiculous to begin with, and even more ridiculous after the price drop!
Yes, people don't like the high prices, but make new hats instead of reselling old hats!
This is the first legitimate scam on the server because at least you knew what you were getting in the past when you paid a high price! But now your $10 or however much you spent is down the drain. Way to ruin the server.
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Posted by Mr.Simons
I raged over this so much!!!!!!!!!!!! It seems all my favorite hats are being resold at low prices... The only thing I enjoyed was completing my octopus collection. Other than that I was pissed!
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Posted by MattKan
I would personally never spend iTunes money to buy hats, but for thise who did, they got scammed big time because of the staff team failing to produce new items. They have every right to be angry. No, it's not the staff team's fault and we can't call them lazy because they volunteer and don't get paid, but this tarnishes the reputation of the app. Big time. And that becomes Stefan and Unixmad's problem and by extension Xor's if he really does get paid
Seriously... Where the hell are you going with this? It feels like you ran out of new content to keep us busy while working on your new updates, which to be honest, half of them sucks.
Im really disappointed... Not only the rarity of those proud to wear and to show how long they have been playing for iClassic for cheap/free, but it shows that you admins are not putting effort in your work at all. Even though its black friday, doesn't mean you take the very oldest of hats and sell them for very cheap. You're not making new hats for nexus but you re-sold the same four colored hoodies (With the horns) almost every saturday it opens.
F**k it... Im not gonna continue playing iClassic anymore if this keeps up... Im not going to achieve anything special because everything i achieved in the past through all my hard effort is now being sold for pennies.
I actually put my hard effort in work for 24 hours a day, 7 days a week just to get the gralats i purchased my hats with. I only get paid 20 dollars and thats to play for my school supplies and to pay for my forms to pass college. I hardly use my money to buy these itunes cards and i only purchase them for gralats. I spend most of my hours in the past slashing my farm till i get 2500 gralats (No bombs). Now this pretty much took all my hard work and tossed it all to the ground.
Its like what XBLA and PSN are doing. Selling content that was supposed to be an exclusive pre-order for a game.
I know you're not producing any content. You're just waiting for the holidays 1-3 weeks early just to make something new out of the blue. And the lava quest? marked for an early 2012 release? Not gonna happen. Its gonna be delayed or the quest is going to feel like a beta.
Those who are trying to defend on how these hats should be there and how everyone should have them pretty much destroy the uniqueness of these hats and pretty much aren't fun to have around anymore.. You're pretty much telling the admins that we shouldn't have new content anymore... and that everything players didn't have in the past should be here now... Which then makes it pointless for veterans to have fun in iClassic anymore... And you completely crash the iClassic Market as they will see a decrease..
Please leave a comment or something about this topic
monk
11-26-2011 04:08 PM
I agree with what ever you said here I'm just to lazy to read it all
Tyler
11-26-2011 04:22 PM
I honestly think they just did it to piss us off.
iHot
11-26-2011 04:23 PM
Now i being the person i am read through this and support you 100% on this subject its not fair they take our time and effort and sell it for a buck.
°Seeker99
11-26-2011 04:52 PM
Xor is going to create 50 accounts to vote up that it's ok in the poll.
Beholder
11-26-2011 06:03 PM
Raise of hands, how many of the above posters read the entire post, spoilers and all!
DragonRider
11-26-2011 06:56 PM
In old Higbey fashion:
They're all lying, deceitful, cheating scumbags who only care about money and the player count. They only care about money spent on gralat packs so Stefan and Unixmad can go to more strip clubs and buy more hookers. Also, they're very lazy. New players won't know the difference and buy them up! No ideas? Just resell them! F**k Classic's current staff, we need better ones.
Maikeru
11-26-2011 07:05 PM
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Posted by Beholder
(Post 36830)
Raise of hands, how many of the above posters read the entire post, spoilers and all!
Lol! xD
You can read just the first 3 and you'll see where its going already!
Cat612
11-26-2011 07:08 PM
Frankly, I couldn't care less. I'm just sick of all of the complaining.
Maikeru
11-26-2011 07:11 PM
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Posted by Cat612
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Frankly, I couldn't care less. I'm just sick of all of the complaining.
Im sick of it too but it needs to stop.
Im complaining because after all the times we've told them to stop (and yes, some of the staff actually agreed), they lied and kept doing it.
And the fact that its being focused on one group (the new people) not every group doesn't make it satisfying for all players to enjoy, which is why this thing needs to stop!
Rarity is focused on all groups because it shows those who put their hard effort into earning these hats. They're unique in their own way and they should not be sold for pennies.
WarrLordd
11-26-2011 07:44 PM
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Posted by NYN
(Post 36874)
Yeah, get over it ya big babies!
MrSimons
11-26-2011 07:47 PM
I'm kind of swaying both sides now...
RE-SELL
When Nexus opened I was able to complete my Rainbow Octo collection. And I am an old player so shouldn't it be fine I buy it? And since it's right that I get a second chance to complete my collection shouldn't noobs have a chance too?
NO RE-SELL
I was around back in the day and spent my iTunes money on high priced "rare" hats. Now they are being re-sold at prices where you could earn the money in A RPS fight (notice how it's not plural). So how is this fair tax the veterans and reward the noobs?
So I guess it's there is logic on both ends of the argument.
Maikeru
11-26-2011 07:49 PM
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Posted by WarrLordd
(Post 36877)
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Posted by NYN
Yeah, get over it ya big babies!
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Posted by Mr.$imons
(Post 36879)
I'm kind of swaying both sides now...
RE-SELL
When Nexus opened I was able to complete my Rainbow Octo collection. And I am an old player so shouldn't it be fine I buy it? And since it's right that I get a second chance to complete my collection shouldn't noobs have a chance too?
NO RE-SELL
I was around back in the day and spent my iTunes money on high priced "rare" hats. Now they are being re-sold at prices where you could earn the money in A RPS fight (notice how it's not plural). So how is this fair tax the veterans and reward the noobs?
So I guess it's there is logic on both ends of the argument.
Im talking about the old items. Where they cost so much and they were so valuable to find. Octo hat barely passed a year so thats ok with me. I can't call it a year
Cat612
11-26-2011 07:50 PM
Right, it's totally fine if it's a hat that I don't have, but if I bought it before then it's a scam!!!11!
Maikeru
11-26-2011 07:52 PM
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Posted by Cat612
(Post 36882)
Right, it's totally fine if it's a hat that I don't have, but if I bought it before then it's a scam!!!11!
Then whats in it for the old players who already purchased the hat? They don't got anything to do in the update if they already have it
Again, these old hat updates are only being focused on the new players group of the game. An update is supposed to be focused around all groups that play this game
Edit: Btw, it is a scam when you sold it for 32k two years ago then for 1k this year. Its a huge difference
Azala
11-26-2011 07:53 PM
The cap and mask hat being resold just pisses me off. I spent REAL MONEY on it because i thought it would be cool to have, then when it disappeared i figured it would be a good thing to show how long ive been playing. But now, its being resold for much less gralats than it originally was. DONT BRING BACK OLD HATS X(
callimuc
11-26-2011 07:55 PM
I kind of agree with this thread. The only thing I canīt agree is with the Hideīnīseek rewards. They are supposed to be like "preview" stuff for players and actually to keep fun.
MrSimons
11-26-2011 07:56 PM
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Posted by Maikeru
(Post 36881)
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Im talking about the old items. Where they cost so much and they were so valuable to find. Octo hat barely passed a year so thats ok with me. I can't call it a year
Theres more than just the octo, I used it as an example because of its massive price cut. Let's change Octo to tiny Dino then, 30k or something to 10k......
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Posted by Azala
(Post 36885)
The cap and mask hat being resold just pisses me off. I spent REAL MONEY on it because i thought it would be cool to have, then when it disappeared i figured it would be a good thing to show how long ive been playing. But now, its being resold for much less gralats than it originally was. DONT BRING BACK OLD HATS X(
Same.
iHot
11-26-2011 08:19 PM
I believe admins aren't so much as running out of ideas but they are focusing on (supposedly) a lava quest we will just have to wait and see where this scamming leads us and graal too.
WarrLordd
11-26-2011 08:21 PM
Lava quest is a myth just as admin island :)
MattKan
11-26-2011 08:21 PM
No.. I think scamming/re-selling is acceptable...
I like what you did there.
Okay, well, there's no promise that this isn't gonna happen again. Just know in the future guys before you spend lots of money that you may have just been scammed and the price may be drastically lower later on. Then decide if you want to carry through with your purchases or not.
iHot
11-26-2011 08:23 PM
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Posted by WarrLordd
(Post 36909)
Lava quest is a myth just as admin island :)
Chirst you mean staff are running out of ideas!
First our money
Now our hats
Whats next our mothers?!
°Seeker99
11-26-2011 08:29 PM
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Posted by WarrLordd
(Post 36909)
Lava quest is a myth just as admin island :)
Lava Quest existed on earlier versions of Classic. Nimda is probably not a coincidence.
Cat612
11-26-2011 08:30 PM
I never thought I'd see the day when people complain about lowered prices.
MattKan
11-26-2011 08:32 PM
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Posted by °Seeker99
(Post 36918)
Lava Quest existed on earlier versions of Classic. Nimda is probably not a coincidence.
This is lava quest: (I think)
It does exist, WarrLord is wrong.
iHot
11-26-2011 08:33 PM
The prices are fine its just what they are selling which is old hats we spent money on!
They could at the very least make new hats.
MattKan
11-26-2011 08:33 PM
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Posted by Cat612
(Post 36920)
I never thought I'd see the day when people complain about lowered prices.
People aren't complaining about lower prices, their complaining that the value of the items they spent lots of money on was taken away.
iHot
11-26-2011 08:34 PM
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Posted by MattKan
(Post 36922)
This is lava quest: (I think)
It does exist, WarrLord is wrong.
Try adding the mario theme song pure gold.
Maikeru
11-26-2011 08:41 PM
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Posted by Cat612
(Post 36920)
I never thought I'd see the day when people complain about lowered prices.
Theres a difference between price and value.. Learn them
MrSimons
11-26-2011 09:01 PM
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Posted by iHot
(Post 36912)
Chirst you mean staff are running out of ideas!
First our money
Now our hats
Whats next our mother's credit card?!
Fixed
fp4
11-26-2011 09:42 PM
Maybe next time you'll wait a year instead of shelling out for that expensive hat (status symbol).
A sale isn't a scam either.
iHot
11-26-2011 09:45 PM
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Posted by Mr.$imons
(Post 36934)
Fixed
I like that better XD
Higbey
11-26-2011 09:56 PM
wait let me get this straight. your okay with them selling useless hats and graphics for outrageous amounts and your okay with them making hats instead of actual game content.......
but your upset that they are making already sold hats cheaper?.......listen i agree its bad, but maybe you guys need to look at the bigger problem. the fact that expensive hats and morphs that do nothing are being sold in such quantity in the first place instead of actual game content.
but again with this topic, need i remind you of the "exclusive lava pet that is going to only be sold for a limited time!" that got resold the next year?
or how they say "we are selling cheap stuff!" when they sell already sold hats that used to cost more, or the despicable practice of selling expensive morphs that grant access to a "this only" room that has cheap things. you think your getting a bargain, but you wouldnt have bought that expensive morph if it wasnt the only way to enter the room.
oh the things they do to profit off kiddies with their parents credit cards hooked up to the itunes account.
Rexx
11-26-2011 10:01 PM
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Posted by fp4
(Post 36961)
Maybe next time you'll wait a year instead of shelling out for that expensive hat (status symbol).
A sale isn't a scam either.
yeah lets wait a year to buy hats they advertise in the updates.
Maikeru
11-26-2011 10:15 PM
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Posted by fp4
(Post 36961)
Maybe next time you'll wait a year instead of shelling out for that expensive hat (status symbol)
So pretty much, you're telling people that every hat now is going to be resold next year for 1000 gralats?
Alright! Free 1k tower hats for me!
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A sale isn't a scam either.
Sorry my friend but sales don't cut off 31k off a mask... Nice try though...
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wait let me get this straight. your okay with them selling useless hats and graphics for outrageous amounts and your okay with them making hats instead of actual game content.......
but your upset that they are making already sold hats cheaper?.......listen i agree its bad, but maybe you guys need to look at the bigger problem. the fact that expensive hats and morphs that do nothing are being sold in such quantity in the first place instead of actual game content.
but again with this topic, need i remind you of the "exclusive lava pet that is going to only be sold for a limited time!" that got resold the next year?
or how they say "we are selling cheap stuff!" when they sell already sold hats that used to cost more, or the despicable practice of selling expensive morphs that grant access to a "this only" room that has cheap things. you think your getting a bargain, but you wouldnt have bought that expensive morph if it wasnt the only way to enter the room.
oh the things they do to profit off kiddies with their parents credit cards hooked up to the itunes account
+Rep
True. This is supposed to also focus around any rare exclusive item aswell y'know. I only used hats because its the only updates they're punching out now (other than for the holidays)
