Graalians

Graalians (https://www.graalians.com/forums/index.php)
-   Classic Future Improvements (https://www.graalians.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=26)
-   -   Player Shop (https://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21736)

Samie 10-13-2013 01:32 AM

Player Shop
 
okay so i saw a thread and dropped my idea there, so i thought i mines well make a thread for it instead of just saying there.
the idea would be a shop with player made items. as you may think, well, they have graphic artist for that, this is a stupid idea.. but, the staff all tend to have their own 'style' and their own 'ideas' for all their items. the shop can have player-made bombs, horses, hats, furniture, etc. i think this would be cool so you can have items that don't look the same in genral pallete, shading, etc. this could be a good way for some aspiring graphics artist to make a little gralats too. now, a problem could be spaming their item to get it sold, well, maybe there can be a system like uploads, but diffrent, it could cost a little gralats to upload (small so people won't want to waste money, but big enough so people still won't spam) graphic staff could go through these, being they would have the best judgement in their own kinda section. items can be priced among quality, and the artist who made this would get the item, and the amount it's sold for (i.e. say i made a rug. i sent this rug in and they decided they will sell it. it will be sold for 2500 gralats, so i would recive the rug free, and 2500 gralats [only gralats once]) i just think this would be so cool, and help get aspiring artist's names out there. ik its flawed, but im tired and not that bright.. okay that was a handful ty for bearing through

Britneyxox 10-13-2013 10:33 AM

I like this idea:) nice i would like this to be added

Admiral 10-13-2013 10:52 AM

I just hope that on their to do list, there is something along the lines of 'Update York Town Hat Shop with new playermade hats.' :(

Livid 10-13-2013 11:53 AM

Quote:

Posted by Reece (Post 419307)
I just hope that on their to do list, there is something along the lines of 'Update York Town Hat Shop with new playermade hats.' :(

Thats what I've been feed backing for 3 months now

Hanzo 10-13-2013 11:59 AM

I lov this

Livid 10-13-2013 12:01 PM

Quote:

Posted by Hanzo (Post 419321)
I lov this

Of course you do its amazing isn't it?

Samie 10-13-2013 12:20 PM

Quote:

Posted by Reece (Post 419307)
I just hope that on their to do list, there is something along the lines of 'Update York Town Hat Shop with new playermade hats.' :(

haa, i bet its on right after the trade system, the day next to never :sarcastic: still fun to think about tho

Hanzo 10-13-2013 12:23 PM

...

Livid 10-13-2013 12:31 PM

Well hopefully they do renew all the hats in Yorktown, because I'm tired of staring at the same things all the time. Hopefully rufus puts the link hat in it. Can you believe that I totally forgot Yorktown had a shop?

DUCKY 10-13-2013 09:32 PM

Noooo I want to keep the link hats rare because I'm selfish

Livid 10-13-2013 09:35 PM

Quote:

Posted by DUCKY (Post 419430)
Noooo I want to keep the link hats rare because I'm selfish

Its happening

DUCKY 10-13-2013 10:16 PM

:O fetch the battle axe

Livid 10-13-2013 10:22 PM

Quote:

Posted by DUCKY (Post 419437)
:O fetch the battle axe

No problem

ufoburan 10-14-2013 08:16 PM

Ok let me just say this. While this sounds all fine and dandy this wouldn't be entirely fair for the whole player base to have player owned shops. Let me explain why. Just because you can do gfx and make stuff doesn't mean others can or even have a pc to be able to make the items. There for how would this be fair for the people that don't have the ability to make items and own shops? It wouldn't be fair for a certain amount of people to gain a profit off making things when others can't.

I'm not trying to complain or attack any one just simply laying out why this may sound good but cant happen because its not fair for everyone. If you want to earn gralats for making items go be a gfx admin.

The only way this kind of thing would work fairly is if players could select items and purchase them at lower cost then sale them at there normal retail value in their houses. Which is how the real world stores work,but if you do that then your making the all ready in game shops essintally useless. So player owned shops aren't going to happen.

Samie 10-14-2013 08:25 PM

Quote:

Posted by ufoburan (Post 419754)
Ok let me just say this. While this sounds all fine and dandy this wouldn't be entirely fair for the whole player base to have player owned shops. Let me explain why. Just because you can do gfx and make stuff doesn't mean others can or even have a pc to be able to make the items. There for how would this be fair for the people that don't have the ability to make items and own shops? It wouldn't be fair for a certain amount of people to gain a profit off making things when others can't.

I'm not trying to complain or attack any one just simply laying out why this may sound good but cant happen because its not fair for everyone. If you want to earn gralats for making items go be a gfx admin.

The only way this kind of thing would work fairly is if players could select items and purchase them at lower cost then sale them at there normal retail value in their houses. Which is how the real world stores work,but if you do that then your making the all ready in game shops essintally useless. So player owned shops aren't going to happen.

you don't really get what im saying. not every player have their own shop? a show with player. made. items. and how wouldn't this be fair? its not like they are requried to have a shop.. if they don't make any items to submit, then thats not really unfair.. and there are apps that people have to make graphis on their ipod and ipads, i know nanner has it

Vivid 10-14-2013 08:30 PM

:)
 
Good idea, they have stuff like that in era that's pretty much all I play.
However, I think they should have different rooms with different stuuf in it like heads and bodies and stuff like that. :love: maybe if they had a special area where you could've get codes and stuff too. Anyone of those would satisfy me.
What would be the name I was thinking 'costomization shop' for starters.

ufoburan 10-14-2013 08:38 PM

Quote:

Posted by Samie (Post 419757)
you don't really get what im saying. not every player have their own shop? a show with player. made. items. and how wouldn't this be fair? its not like they are requried to have a shop.. if they don't make any items to submit, then thats not really unfair.. and there are apps that people have to make graphis on their ipod and ipads, i know nanner has it

The point was that not everybody are good at gfx and/or don't know how to do it. You are correct that they wouldn't be required to have a shop. I fail to see how not "requiring" them to have shops makes it fair? Yah its great and fair if you make gralats off items you made in your shop and get rich meanwhile everybody else that cant make items stays poor and has to take a year to save up to buy stuff with out purchasing gralat packs. The only way it would be fair is if they could get items that they would be able to sell to.

Samie 10-14-2013 08:44 PM

Quote:

Posted by ufoburan (Post 419762)
The point was that not everybody are good at gfx and/or don't know how to do it. You are correct that they wouldn't be required to have a shop. I fail to see how not "requiring" them to have shops makes it fair? Yah its great and fair if you make gralats off items you made in your shop and get rich meanwhile everybody else that cant make items stays poor and has to take a year to save up to buy stuff with out purchasing gralat packs. The only way it would be fair is if they could get items that they would be able to sell to.

well in that case, spar isnt fair becuase not everyone is good at it.
and if they stay poor, thats not anyone's fault but their's. they can farm, do the pryat quest, etc. and it wouldn't be 'your' shop.. it could be a shop in say MoD, that accepts items.. a shop in York has player-made hats, and thats perfectly fair..

Livid 10-15-2013 03:09 AM

Quote:

Posted by Samie (Post 419767)
well in that case, spar isnt fair becuase not everyone is good at it.
and if they stay poor, thats not anyone's fault but their's. they can farm, do the pryat quest, etc. and it wouldn't be 'your' shop.. it could be a shop in say MoD, that accepts items.. a shop in York has player-made hats, and thats perfectly fair..

She's been breaking all of you guys this whole time, thats some real opinion and I like it

ufoburan 10-15-2013 04:49 PM

Quote:

Posted by Samie (Post 419767)
well in that case, spar isnt fair becuase not everyone is good at it.
and if they stay poor, thats not anyone's fault but their's. they can farm, do the pryat quest, etc. and it wouldn't be 'your' shop.. it could be a shop in say MoD, that accepts items.. a shop in York has player-made hats, and thats perfectly fair..

You made it sound like it would be "your" shop to me. The way your saying it now sounds a little better. And Sparring isn't something that effects everybody There are people that get on and only spar like Thallen and there are people like me who don't give a big steamy S about sparring who don't spar. But Money or Gralats are something everyone has and effects everyone. Imo I don't think it would be fair for everyone if people could get money for creating items. There would need to be away to fairly distribute gralats amoung the players.

Like creating some kind of system like the Easter egg hunt from earlier this year. where you can find,sell and maybe even trade items. For instance they could add an Alchemist Npc where you find materials for stuff like powder and he gives you a set amount for each bag of powder you turn in and after you turn in like 5 bags he makes bombs for you. Or wood that you could turn in and eventually get arrows. Iron,leather,feathers. that would turn into a hat or new outfit to wear. something like that. You would make gralats,and eventually be able to get harder to get items.

Samie 10-15-2013 08:30 PM

Quote:

Posted by ufoburan (Post 419977)
You made it sound like it would be "your" shop to me. The way your saying it now sounds a little better. And Sparring isn't something that effects everybody There are people that get on and only spar like Thallen and there are people like me who don't give a big steamy S about sparring who don't spar. But Money or Gralats are something everyone has and effects everyone. Imo I don't think it would be fair for everyone if people could get money for creating items. There would need to be away to fairly distribute gralats amoung the players.

still don't get what your saying.. It's perfecly fair.. just because someone isn't able to make something doesnt make it unfair.. that's how it is now, seen the shop at York? Sevral player made hats. So I've heard, if your hat is approved and decided to be sold, you recive the hat for free, and the amount it is sold for.. that part isnt anything new

Dino 10-16-2013 07:52 PM

Quote:

Posted by Samie (Post 420024)
still don't get what your saying.. It's perfecly fair.. just because someone isn't able to make something doesnt make it unfair.. that's how it is now, seen the shop at York? Sevral player made hats. So I've heard, if your hat is approved and decided to be sold, you recive the hat for free, and the amount it is sold for.. that part isnt anything new

HAI SAMIE JUST WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING
Spoiler
hai nwb

ufoburan 10-24-2013 11:42 PM

Quote:

Posted by Samie (Post 420024)
still don't get what your saying.. It's perfecly fair.. just because someone isn't able to make something doesnt make it unfair.. that's how it is now, seen the shop at York? Sevral player made hats. So I've heard, if your hat is approved and decided to be sold, you recive the hat for free, and the amount it is sold for.. that part isnt anything new

Again that is something you did not say before. I agree that if you create something and its added to the game you should get it for free,and I'm ok with the player getting a payment for the hat or item upon approval. But you did not state that was the case. You make it seem like they would get at least a portion of the gralats everytime the item is bought not just a one time payment of what the hat sells for.

That would be completely reasonable however I would think they could give more than just what the hat would sell for as they are going to be selling it over and over again and potentailly making the company a profit off something some one created. I would say something like 10-20k which would be comparable to a regular priced upload of a customized item.

If what you said is true then I still don't see the need to have player owned shops in player houses. If your not going to gain gralats from each hat sold then there is no point. There are all ready shops with hats you can buy and rooms could always be added to those.

If your worried about getting recognition for creating something then ask dusty to add the player nickname to the item so when any player clicks on it and the image pops up with the creators name underneath of it.

ChocoNotes 10-25-2013 12:09 AM

Quote:

Posted by ufoburan (Post 422470)
You make it seem like they would get at least a portion of the gralats everytime the item is bought not just a one time payment of what the hat sells for

Did you even read the OP?

Quote:

Posted by Samie (Post 419197)
the artist who made this would get the item, and the amount it's sold for (i.e. say i made a rug. i sent this rug in and they decided they will sell it. it will be sold for 2500 gralats, so i would recive the rug free, and 2500 gralats [only gralats once]) [/SIZE]


eevee2 11-01-2013 08:35 PM

Quote:

Posted by Samie (Post 419197)
okay so i saw a thread and dropped my idea there, so i thought i mines well make a thread for it instead of just saying there.
the idea would be a shop with player made items. as you may think, well, they have graphic artist for that, this is a stupid idea.. but, the staff all tend to have their own 'style' and their own 'ideas' for all their items. the shop can have player-made bombs, horses, hats, furniture, etc. i think this would be cool so you can have items that don't look the same in genral pallete, shading, etc. this could be a good way for some aspiring graphics artist to make a little gralats too. now, a problem could be spaming their item to get it sold, well, maybe there can be a system like uploads, but diffrent, it could cost a little gralats to upload (small so people won't want to waste money, but big enough so people still won't spam) graphic staff could go through these, being they would have the best judgement in their own kinda section. items can be priced among quality, and the artist who made this would get the item, and the amount it's sold for (i.e. say i made a rug. i sent this rug in and they decided they will sell it. it will be sold for 2500 gralats, so i would recive the rug free, and 2500 gralats [only gralats once]) i just think this would be so cool, and help get aspiring artist's names out there. ik its flawed, but im tired and not that bright.. okay that was a handful ty for bearing through

Total agreement with that idea... BUT you need to be able to put head too! So people will be able to buy my heads without having to upload them ^_^

Samie 11-01-2013 08:47 PM

Quote:

Posted by eevee2 (Post 425026)
Total agreement with that idea... BUT you need to be able to put head too! So people will be able to buy my heads without having to upload them ^_^

tbh, i personnaly wouldnt do that, but who am I too talk :0
I think heads are suppose to be so people can buy gralats packs, and heads are worth more then items like bombs and stuff. And if they did do heads, there'd be tons of people uploading random heads, that may just be minor edits. And if someone stole someone's head, they might upload it to the shop, just so people can have it, and revenge, etc (say maybe there not well known and no one would know who's head it is (ie, guild leaders that someone has a 'beef' with, or maybe a spar rivial))

Sicx 11-10-2013 12:05 AM

era era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era eraera era era era era era era

Zazzi* 11-10-2013 12:07 AM

Quote:

Posted by Samie (Post 425034)
tbh, i personnaly wouldnt do that, but who am I too talk :0
I think heads are suppose to be so people can buy gralats packs, and heads are worth more then items like bombs and stuff. And if they did do heads, there'd be tons of people uploading random heads, that may just be minor edits. And if someone stole someone's head, they might upload it to the shop, just so people can have it, and revenge, etc (say maybe there not well known and no one would know who's head it is (ie, guild leaders that someone has a 'beef' with, or maybe a spar rivial))

You know they used to sell heads in Classic right? For the minor edits and stuff there are ways to check if they did redit it and so they would just disapprove.

ufoburan 11-11-2013 07:20 AM

I have noticed that people seem to be sensative over the uploads. I don't upload much at all,but the few times I have I always get random pm's from people complaining that I stole that head or body. I do think its good that we have the option to custom upload stuff into the game. I get the feeling they wouldn't want to add more admins just to create heads/bodies to sell in game,And it doesn't seem like they would have enough gfx staff currently to do that with right now.

While I still don't agree with people running their own shops in their houses in game. I don't see anything stopping them from idling in Graal city and advertising there services in creating a custom upload for any random passerby for the price of a Itunes gift card or for a free farmer for a few hours. I know this would open up scams,however it's not like there is an officially licensed gfx artist shop in game where you can contract some one for there gfx uploading services so you know your not getting scammed. Maybe that's something they could see about adding to the game.

I do agree with how you said if they create something and it gets used in game or even added to the depot for upload they should get it for free and a lump some of gralats for creating and giving the admins permission to use the created item. Imo they should probably get no less than twice what it would be sold for.

ufoburan 11-19-2013 09:15 AM

Okay time to contradict myself. I still don't like player owned shops in their houses however I do have an idea for this. Very similar to what I just suggested in another thread what if you have or buy a hat stand and you could place (only) hats that you have purchased on them and select an option to put it for sell then a cloud with a gralat would appear above it.

The stipulation being that the hat would still sell for its original purchased price,but you would only get a small portion of the profits. This would help to limit scams/multi account get rich quick schemes. I'm not at all sure where to set the bar for amount received from sold hats probably 10-30%. This would help players earn a little extra gralats and clear space by getting rid of seldom used no longer wanted hats. This could also sort of be away for players to give out a rare no longer available hat purchased at Nexus 3 years ago for a prize by making it available for purchase similar to Rufus's house maze.

Samie 11-20-2013 08:28 PM

Quote:

Posted by ufoburan (Post 428760)
Okay time to contradict myself. I still don't like player owned shops in their houses however I do have an idea for this. Very similar to what I just suggested in another thread what if you have or buy a hat stand and you could place (only) hats that you have purchased on them and select an option to put it for sell then a cloud with a gralat would appear above it.

The stipulation being that the hat would still sell for its original purchased price,but you would only get a small portion of the profits. This would help to limit scams/multi account get rich quick schemes. I'm not at all sure where to set the bar for amount received from sold hats probably 10-30%. This would help players earn a little extra gralats and clear space by getting rid of seldom used no longer wanted hats. This could also sort of be away for players to give out a rare no longer available hat purchased at Nexus 3 years ago for a prize by making it available for purchase similar to Rufus's house maze.

did you read the op or just the title? ;-;
it says, if you dared read it, that there would be a shop IN a town somewhere, and people subMitt their items there. it said NOTHING about people having their own shops.. and even so, what's wrong with a player using their own account to get items, that account still earned the money to get them... so it's transferring money from one of your accounts to another, no scam? nothing you are saying makes sence since it doesn't relate to the orginal topic.. read it then comment.

eevee2 11-20-2013 09:17 PM

Quote:

Posted by Samie (Post 425034)
tbh, i personnaly wouldnt do that, but who am I too talk :0
I think heads are suppose to be so people can buy gralats packs, and heads are worth more then items like bombs and stuff. And if they did do heads, there'd be tons of people uploading random heads, that may just be minor edits. And if someone stole someone's head, they might upload it to the shop, just so people can have it, and revenge, etc (say maybe there not well known and no one would know who's head it is (ie, guild leaders that someone has a 'beef' with, or maybe a spar rivial))

I didn't think about that o-o
Quote:

Posted by Zazzi* (Post 426759)
You know they used to sell heads in Classic right? For the minor edits and stuff there are ways to check if they did redit it and so they would just disapprove.

I was on classic maybe a year or 2 before they delete them and they were actually annoying because it was only humans heads nothing original in humans customs.


All times are GMT. The time now is 04:36 PM.

Powered by vBulletin/Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.