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Rezon 11-28-2011 12:55 AM

Possible Gralat Rate Increase?
 
"Crosses Fingers"
http://i44.tinypic.com/35mduef.png

EDIT: Bombs fixed, still seems same. gg.

Murdok 11-28-2011 01:02 AM

I just seen this message come to me also. It probably means that he is fixing a problem that recently occured. So I'm sure "A possible gralat rate increase" won't happen:)

Rezon 11-28-2011 01:04 AM

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Posted by Murdok (Post 37619)
I just seen this message come to me also. It probably means that he is fixing a problem that recently occured. So I'm sure "A possible gralat rate increase" won't happen:)

improving.

If there was a problem, he would be fixing it.

Murdok 11-28-2011 01:05 AM

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Posted by Rezon (Post 37620)
improving.

If there was a problem, he would be fixing it.

Maybe your right but we will know in time:)

Beholder 11-28-2011 01:08 AM

Hahahaha- fixing something thats been around for over 12 years. Yep! Sounds like graal.

Murdok 11-28-2011 01:10 AM

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Posted by Beholder (Post 37626)
Hahahaha- fixing something thats been around for over 12 years. Yep! Sounds like graal.

I'm just saying that there could of been a problem with the script that happened accidently.

Rezon 11-28-2011 01:12 AM

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Posted by Murdok (Post 37628)
I'm just saying that there could of been a problem with the script that happened accidently.


YEP.

Nope.

Higbey 11-28-2011 01:29 AM

How could a script get accidentally broken by itself? You'd nneed to be tweaking with the script for something to "break*. Scripts don't have a wear and tear.

Murdok 11-28-2011 01:33 AM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 37641)
How could a script get accidentally broken by itself? You'd nneed to be tweaking with the script for something to "break*. Scripts don't have a wear and tear.

That's what I meant Higbey I just didnt feel like explaining it:)

MrSimons 11-28-2011 02:20 AM

You can now pick up holiday bombs :O

WarrLordd 11-28-2011 02:20 AM

you guys need to figure it out :)

Edit_ blarg nvm stefan added it to news

Azrael 11-28-2011 03:52 AM

We introduced scripted bombs (and arrows) to the server instead of the pre-fabbed ones. It will allow us more customization and allow us to do more with them development-wise.

Tyler 11-28-2011 04:03 AM

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Posted by Mr.$imons (Post 37665)
You can now pick up holiday bombs :O

Damn seriously? That's awesome. I was hoping they'd update that.

MrSimons 11-28-2011 04:07 AM

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Posted by TylerMysTe (Post 37707)
Damn seriously? That's awesome. I was hoping they'd update that.

It made me very happy because I traded someone my egg bomb for their dynamite bomb... Thing that I never bought :,(

Higbey 11-28-2011 04:09 AM

Does this mean having npcs that can pick up/ throw bombs may be a possibility? Oi have a feeling this is going to something big, customizable bombs/arrows perhaps?

Twinny 11-28-2011 04:15 AM

Official news,

We have updated the bombs and explosions: increased spawn rate of gralats but also added more protection against cheating. Hint: Farming in groups will spawn more gralats! We will continue to improve these.

Tyler 11-28-2011 04:17 AM

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Posted by Twinny (Post 37720)
Official news,

We have updated the bombs and explosions: increased spawn rate of gralats but also added more protection against cheating. Hint: Farming in groups will spawn more gralats! We will continue to improve these.

Thank you. I'm sure a lot of people will appreciate this.

Higbey 11-28-2011 04:33 AM

Quote:

Posted by Twinny
Official news,

We have updated the bombs and explosions: increased spawn rate of gralats but also added more protection against cheating. Hint: Farming in groups will spawn more gralats! We will continue to improve these.

.... I love you.

Wait. This isn't a placebo effect thing like the less lag button on iera right? Someone check if it's possible to tell if its increased. Midori just said something about if something sounds to good to be true then it probably isn't..

Just want to make sure, but the broadcast by Stefan makes me feel very sure this is real and not some placebo effect attempt.

°Seeker99 11-28-2011 05:00 AM

You broke the bombs! Now we can't throw them in the middle of grass for more gralats. You've made the gralat rate even lower. Well ****...

Twinny 11-28-2011 06:01 AM

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Posted by °Seeker99 (Post 37729)
You broke the bombs! Now we can't throw them in the middle of grass for more gralats. You've made the gralat rate even lower. Well ****...

So the throw distance is slightly off? Too short or too far?

Azrael 11-28-2011 06:04 AM

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Posted by °Seeker99 (Post 37729)
You broke the bombs! Now we can't throw them in the middle of grass for more gralats. You've made the gralat rate even lower. Well ****...

This isn't useful what-so-ever. How are we suppose to know what's wrong with the bombs, other than your lackluster statement of "dey r broke". Tell us WHY and that will help us fix them. And by us, I mean Twinny. :)

Muttslaughter 11-28-2011 06:09 AM

My problem with the bombs is that they take a while to appear and I here a ringing sound but no gralats pop up. Is anyone else having this problem?

Sammich 11-28-2011 06:11 AM

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Posted by Azrael (Post 37752)
This isn't useful what-so-ever. How are we suppose to know what's wrong with the bombs, other than your lackluster statement of "dey r broke". Tell us WHY and that will help us fix them. And by us, I mean Twinny. :)

Just an observation, the bombs can go through walls and stay on water. I don't know if it's supposed to be like that but I like it. Second, my firework bombs look like the triangle admin bomb's explosion. Is it only the firework bombs that are like that?

Rexx 11-28-2011 06:28 AM

Quote:

Posted by Twinny (Post 37720)
Official news,

We have updated the bombs and explosions: increased spawn rate of gralats but also added more protection against cheating. Hint: Farming in groups will spawn more gralats! We will continue to improve these.

added more protection against cheating involving bombs and gralats or cheating in general?

Arkaz 11-28-2011 10:27 AM

Lemme clear this up :3
The bombs dont clear two horizontal rows anymore, and they dont go as far as they used to.
Solution: Make them go half-block more to the right and half-block down.
Other than that, they look cool!

callimuc 11-28-2011 12:59 PM

Kind of readed the posts, saw some misunderstooded stuff and so on. Here's my feedback:

- You guys probably remember this: while throwing bombs, you have been able to throw them in the middle of like 4 4x4 grass tiles, so more Gralats where farmed with one bomb. With the new system, this doesn't seem to work. Would be nice to have it back.

- Holiday bombs: people probably bought them, because they where also bigger, not just of the rarity. The explosion kept destroying stuff in a bigger radios. Also have been nice for pking at towers and stuff. Maybe that can be added back.

Good stuff (not just for complaining)
- finally holiday bombs can be carried. I always missed that but we finally got it.
- since it's totally costumed, I gues we can hope to see nicer updates coming (nicer explosion,...)
- better farming got back (will test it later on with friends but I hope it's fixed since it was mentioned), including hack security. I hope the security can go on without having people hacking them.

Xavier 11-28-2011 01:16 PM

My only complaint is that two rows adjacent to each other (sometimes) cannot be farmed at once using a horse.

Tyler 11-28-2011 02:07 PM

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Posted by Xavier (Post 37814)
My only complaint is that two rows adjacent to each other (sometimes) cannot be farmed at once using a horse.

That's the main problem I have with it too, but other then that I like the update.

EDIT: I also notice when you throw a bomb at someone it doesn't hit them and deal damage.

Muttslaughter 11-28-2011 10:12 PM

Dear twinny, if it ain't broke don't try to fix it. Because you'll break it.

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Posted by Muttslaughter
Dear twinny, if it ain't broke don't try to fix it. Because you'll break it.

I know it's noobish to quote yourself but I felt I should explain. I was able to pay for my VIP by farming for 3 days with the old method but I farmed for 4 hours yesterday and only made $50. I guess farming works with friends but I farm alone because alot of ppl are jerks and racist on classic.

Chaotic 11-28-2011 10:17 PM

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Posted by Muttslaughter (Post 37944)
Dear twinny, if it ain't broke don't try to fix it. Because you'll break it.

It's been broke for about... Hmm twelve years now?

Rezon 11-28-2011 10:23 PM

I'll go post a diagram on the changes later.

Tyler 11-28-2011 10:54 PM

Quote:

Posted by Muttslaughter (Post 37944)
Dear twinny, if it ain't broke don't try to fix it. Because you'll break it.



I know it's noobish to quote yourself but I felt I should explain. I was able to pay for my VIP by farming for 3 days with the old method but I farmed for 4 hours yesterday and only made $50. I guess farming works with friends but I farm alone because alot of ppl are jerks and racist on classic.

Got news for you man. Farming has been broke for awhile and now it's better. Also, we can pick up the special bombs so I love this update.

WarrLordd 11-28-2011 11:03 PM

Some of the greedy folks ( solo players who wants a black gralat with 1 bomb) still don't get this update o.O kinda laugh how they saying farming is worst now. The more people you have helping you in your guild/house farm the more increase the numbers will grow on your farm.
This is a update for team work.
Also the horse fire bush issue been fixed.. Just the last thing we gotta do now is increase prices on new items :) (kidding btw)

Rezon 11-28-2011 11:04 PM

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Posted by WarrLordd (Post 37972)
Some of the greedy folks ( solo players who wants a black gralat with 1 bomb) still don't get this update o.O kinda laugh how they saying farming is worst now. The more people you have helping you in your guild/house farm the more increase the numbers will grow on your farm.
This is a update for team work.
Also the horse fire bush issue been fixed.. Just the last thing we gotta do now is increase prices on new items :) (kidding btw)

Range on the horse breath was also nerfed, it used to stretch and hit 5 blocks, however it only hits 4.

Muttslaughter 11-28-2011 11:38 PM

Okay latest experiment (Since fix today)
Start: $2200 and 60 bombs
End: $2374
Sorry about earlier posts it is better. I still get a ringing sound but no gralats pop-up but I can live with it

Rezon 11-28-2011 11:45 PM

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Posted by Muttslaughter (Post 37986)
Okay latest experiment (Since fix today)
Start: $2200 and 60 bombs
End: $2374
Sorry about earlier posts it is better. I still get a ringing sound but no gralats pop-up but I can live with it

Based on your results...

So, 60 bombs = 374$

$6.23/Bomb - Using a Horse (Profit, Not including cost of bombs)

Time Spent: Grass takes average 10 seconds to grow back, 3 breaths = 30 seconds/bomb

So you spent 30 minutes.. and only got 374$(-60$) . Average hat costs like 4k, therefore... 5 hours of farming. (This is by yourself)

Calculations are probably really whack, dam headache ;>

Muttslaughter 11-29-2011 12:26 AM

Quote:

Posted by Rezon

Based on your results...

So, 60 bombs = 374$

$6.23/Bomb - Using a Horse (Profit, Not including cost of bombs)

Time Spent: Grass takes average 10 seconds to grow back, 3 breaths = 30 seconds/bomb

So you spent 30 minutes.. and only got 374$(-60$) . Average hat costs like 4k, therefore... 5 hours of farming. (This is by yourself)

Calculations are probably really whack, dam headache ;>

Yeah but I didn't use horse I used skull bombs. Horse experiment is next unless someone beats me to it.

Higbey 11-29-2011 01:22 AM

I'm sure the horse range will be fixed. Only possible downside to this is I hear people are making guilds, recruiting people, having a guild farm where everyone farms and promising rank ups to those who farm the most, then when there is a sufficient amount the guild leader takes it and claims someone stole it. And the process repeats..

Someone even messaged me that a certain staff member replied "it's not against the rules, your just gullible" or something along those lines. The player's grammar/ spelling made it a tad hard to understand.

But other than that it seems good. Can't wait till the kinks and horse breath range gets fixed :)

MrSimons 11-29-2011 01:34 AM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 38036)
I'm sure the horse range will be fixed. Only possible downside to this is I hear people are making guilds, recruiting people, having a guild farm where everyone farms and promising rank ups to those who farm the most, then when there is a sufficient amount the guild leader takes it and claims someone stole it. And the process repeats..

Someone even messaged me that a certain staff member replied "it's not against the rules, your just gullible" or something along those lines. The player's grammar/ spelling made it a tad hard to understand.

But other than that it seems good. Can't wait till the kinks and horse breath range gets fixed :)

Who wants to join my guild... :sarcastic:

Muttslaughter 11-29-2011 01:36 AM

Well I just tried to do it with a horse and post the results but it takes forever. Place bomb, wait forever till it appears, then eat bomb, Blow fire wait for that to appear, wait for gralats, wait for grass, wait, wait, and wait some more. Internet is super laggy so someone please do this test.

MrSimons 11-29-2011 01:38 AM

I dont know the exact timings or bombs used but me and my bro were horse farming at his gh and we earned well over 600 in 30 minutes time.

mr froggy 11-29-2011 06:58 AM

i say just go back to when the horses were first released the rate was fine bombs were fine everything was fine =(

Kc Ramone 11-29-2011 07:01 AM

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Posted by Rezon (Post 37617)
"Crosses Fingers"
http://i44.tinypic.com/35mduef.png

EDIT: Bombs fixed, still seems same. gg.

Two words come to mind: KA CHING!

Maikeru 11-29-2011 07:07 AM

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Posted by Kc Ramone (Post 38206)
Two words come to mind: KA CHING!

LOL!!!
No comment xD

Rexx 11-29-2011 01:58 PM

I'm still having an issue where I can here the gralats being farmed but nothing pops up...cant seem to get more than 10 gralats in the grass in my gh.

Xavier 11-29-2011 02:10 PM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 38036)
Can't wait till the kinks and horse breath range gets fixed :)

Let me guess. You still play Graal. Haha.

Fireenn 11-29-2011 07:17 PM

Wow able to throw the custom holiday bombs now wow now thats a step up from when it was first released and when you threw the bomb you lagged out

Muttslaughter 11-29-2011 07:27 PM

Quote:

Posted by Rexx
I'm still having an issue where I can here the gralats being farmed but nothing pops up...cant seem to get more than 10 gralats in the grass in my gh.

I too am having this problem. Also is it just me or are arrows weaker against Baddies?

You can't spell Slaughterhouse w/o Laughter

Higbey 11-29-2011 09:08 PM

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Posted by Xavier

Let me guess. You still play Graal. Haha.

Seeing as this is a graal forum... Yes that's pretty obvious. But as for me actually playing any of graals servers... Nope

MrSimons 11-29-2011 10:11 PM

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Posted by Rexx (Post 38272)
I'm still having an issue where I can here the gralats being farmed but nothing pops up...cant seem to get more than 10 gralats in the grass in my gh.

Same, when I was horse farming I would have golds...but there was 3 gralats in the lane O.o


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