About King Of The Hill.
 

We all hate king of the hill ill give u 10 gralats if u take it away asap thanks admins, wuv u <3

Good deal, i'd take it.

why thank you kind sir

And if admins do decide to keep this (lets hope not) i think just mod would need this update, out of any of the towers

I have a good idea of the reasons why you probably don't like it, but perhaps you should discuss that instead of just saying you hate it. It'd be more useful for the staff.

Magic likes King of the Hill. :D

Not true. Also, if you don't like it, go to MoD, Swamp, Deadwood, or Sardons.

King of the Hill is a different style of tower taking that some people like.

'We'. How nice and weasily of you to say so! How many people do you represent?

I hate king of the hill, completely unfair and and takes absolutely no skill at all.
Just recruit more than the defending guild and run around the flag

I beg to differ, it actually takes plenty of skill. Notice that the two towers with the biggest flag rooms were made King of the Hill. BECAUSE, with King of the Hill, it's practically guild sparring, because you just focus on killing enemy players (not worrying about hitting the flag), while attempting to keep yourself from dying (since you warp out of the tower, regardless if you're defending or attacking).


That's why they didn't make Deadwood tower a king of the hill tower on iPhone. The flag room is too small, so it would require no skill whatsoever.

King of the Hill requires more skill than regular towers do, because if you're defending in a regular tower, you aren't warped out. :D

Snowtown tower wasn't even that active at all sometimes i see character japan camped there with 3 people for hours while another batch camped at deadwood tower. I'm guessing it will keep it fair now :)

I don't even know how this kind of King of the Hill works. Anyone want to explain it to me?

I do not see what's so bad about it. Gives new and old guilds to recruit members and able to at least take a tower with twice as many people then the other guild without failing. Gives those player who just started who want to take a castle with other players to come together and form a new guild :)

I think it's a good way to spread the tower hours... Wait that rhymes. Tower hours

You can't spell Slaughterhouse w/o Laughter

If the opposing guild has more members in the flag room, the flag will start to drop. Like if (guild here who has the tower) has five members in there, and (guild here who is attacking) has eight members, the flag will go down. It goes back up if the guild with the tower has more members in the flag room than the other guild.

Not me as I kinda like it.

It's only necessary at one, maybe two towers, though.

I like the choice of towers actually. Snow is empty so who cares? And Castle is for "noobs".

are any of you actually in a tower taking guild? when we had snow 2 of us could of defended it from like 6 people easily keep the stuff that dosnt take skills on fb server where it belongs

(except for fb ps which would be on classic if isabel was nice <3 u rexx)

Im in Rainbows, PCA (kinda dead), YOUR DOOM (Dead cause NYN wiped our hours for having a pic of a message from him), and sorta EPIC KOLOSALS.

bl com cj and sos
guilds that actually take these forts probably the most

and i assume them guilds wouldnt have many people in it which will make it impossible for you to take snow or castle

Rainbows is incredibly active and has lots of members so no they are fine, Lots of nubs wanna be in EK cause we have 1000 hours, PCA is a night guild so its easy because everyone is asleep at the towers, and YD was full 90% of the time because DAN gives out iTunes (scam). So no.

I LIKE IT.

where talking about graalonline classic right 0.0?

Yes we are. They aren't top of the list guilds and some are Fb, but most have lots of members.

(Is this on Fb too?)

nah just classic i dont mind the king of the hills on fb

Oh havent been on for a bit sorry. It's not that easy I guess....

Because noob recruiting and telling them to slash at a flag takes alot of skill to do right?

I think it's a good idea.Keep king of the hill.

If it didnt everyone would have 1000 hours.

I don't see King of the Hill as necessarily bad. I do agree that the smaller guilds that generally idle in Snowtown fort will have a bit more of a time holding the tower (Get more people to idle! - kidding).

We chose these towers specifically to introduce King of the Hill (KOTH).

-Snowtown: Pretty much a dead fort. Every time I stop by there, I see 3-5 players, with around 2 of them being idle. It has a big flag room to allow for big guild fights.

- Graal Castle: A busy fort, but has a big flag room as well.

Both have extremely easy access to get into the flag rooms. There's no "defense" like MoD, Sardons, Deadwood, etc. have. Smaller guilds generally shoot for these towers anyways due to small pathways that can be easily blocked. Towers that are easy to get into the flag room generally have guilds that spam noob members to sit in the room to keep the flag.

KOTH is really no different than before. If you are a "good at PKing" guild of 5 members, and are attacked by 12 "noobs", I'm going to assume that your 5 members can easily clean the mess up. You also still re-spawn in the room, giving you that advantage as well.

I think this will also help guilds in the long-run be more Active. You can't take Snowtown or the Castle with only 2 people. You'll need an active, loyal, group of folks that will get to the tower when you say "go", and will stick around to defend it with a large guild count. A lot of guilds, from what I see, are currently being used to show pictures of yourself while you spam people to "RATE ME!" - not really the intended use of the guild system.

Change is hard to accept, but I think you guys will find KOTH really a nice alternative option to the standard "bash your iPod as fast as you can while standing next to the flag".

Towers in general do not require much skill, KOTH just makes it even easier.
After helping SOS and PS to 1k, CoM from 0-1k and PS fb 0-1k in a month on Facebook, I'm burnt out on towers and I personally do not care what happens to them.

The staff has good enough reasoning to add them in I'm not going to go against it any further than my first comment.

What a great OP by frog, and he wonders why I tell him to stay off the forums...

Most of you are going to oppose us. We're in fort taking guilds, you're in admin wannabe guilds. Face it, you think we're complete scum, don't you? My first complaint? It ruins PKing at castle. Not that I PK much, but when I do that's where I go to. The defenders just run outside the flag room when they're going to die, same as PKers do. Second complaint? The defenders don't have to bother doing anything if there's only a few people attacking/PKing. Third complaint? If you're not active while defending it becomes a pain in the ass. Walking all the way through either fort is the attackers job. Fourth complaint? Defending Snowtown. Enough said.

When there is large groups of people attacking castle, there's still havoc. Whether you're defending or attacking, people are confused and just slashing at everyone, and with the defenders all running out of the flag room to prevent themselves from being spawned outside, Castle is bound to have even more of the pileups outside the door that it's notorious for.

I genuinely don't mind the new spawn for defenders at castle, although it's painful for defenders and ruins PKing. People can adjust to that. Changed my mind, too many problems. PKing at snow hasn't changed much, although not very many people do that.

You want facts? The people who spend the most time at these towers don't like it. Why should your opinion be valued over ours?

No, you don't.

EDIT (important): The majority of people in fort taking guilds aren't on graalians. The majority of people on graalians aren't in major fort taking guilds. Me, Frog, Rexx, anyone else who opposes it on graalians.com, or facebook, or anything, we're speaking for A LOT of people.

3 people in my guild could easily defend off a guild of 10, before this update its basically impossible now.
It was fine on fb server, where it belongs. Theres bound to be other stuff admins can occupy themselves with then stuffing up good forts :/ most of the top guilds dont want this and im sure if your the top guilds you take towers the most

Be clear on that ALOT!

That exactly what facebook servers for, for those that cant take forts on classic. Thats why KOTH was first on fb =)
(again XD not for ps though as theyd be on classic if it wasnt for ps current leader XD)

King of the hill is just one big game of cat and mouse. The attackers run around and hide while the defenders look for them and try to kill them, but fail because all the attackers do is run around this is exactly why people are saying it takes no skills anyone can run around and hide and anyone saying before all u did was spam your sword at the flag you obviously hardly take forts cause theres more to it then that you got the people trying to kill you aswell you have to move around and try not to get hit and die while trying to lower the flag i think before KOTH took more skills then now.

Mmnhmm dat triple post.

If you're curious, frog and i are defending castle, and I can safely say

I hate it.

we both hate it :/


(soz bout triiple post) ill use edit more often XD

I love KOTH style... >.>

If it is on Fb it should stay, Classic remove it.

Then swap to facebook server

Then swap to facebook server

You don't represent anyone. You represent yourselves and your own opinions. You may not like KOTH, but there's a lot more people who do. We can't appease everyone, but I'd much rather make 2,985 people instead of 15 :).

Prove it. Prove you're right, that everyone except us likes KotH. You're wrong, Az. Wake up from your fantasy.

Edit: In this thread, 10 people are in favour of KotH. On Graal, there's at least 10 guilds who are opposed to it.

you can appease everyone! Take it away from classic (appeases the people that dont want it) keep it on facebook server so its still around (appeases people that still want it) if they really like KOTH that much then theyd pay 7.5k for it =)

Graals dying theres not even 2,985 people left on graal be realistic and the way its going can you really afford to loss anymore?

Then swap to facebook server

It's new, it's different, it's in the testing phase. Don't speak for everyone when you say you don't like it. When i first heard of it i thought it would be appeasing to quantity over quality, but i was wrong. The fact that you get warped out when you die shows that it's more about staying alive and keeping the opposing guild's members from piling in the room. I really enjoy it and i think it gives tower taking a new outlook. As a compromise they should simply keep it on the towers currently using this idea, leaving both types of tower taking in use.

DONT TELL ME THAT TO DO! lmao jkjk

Get rid of it, iEra and iClassic, i can't stand it

What happens if there like 12-16 players on? Does that make it an instant win?
And im sure 20-25 means your guild is invincible!

If you had 20-25 with the old system you were more or less invincible anyway XD

I just read Pazx's avatar.....wow...just wow

Ok, Frog and Pazk. The staff only changed what, two towers? The rest are normal. I think this is a good way to stop guilds with a ton of allies and afk members from holding every single tower in one server, and a fun way to see which way guilds like it. It's a test, and unless you have polled absolutely everyone who has tried KOTH, you can NOT say for sure that a majority hate it. Same to people for KOTH, you can't say a majority like it. And putting it only on Facebook server wouldn't work, because it's emptier. A lot of guilds won't change for it, and it's inconvenient. I already know you're going to say something along the lines of "If they like it so much, they can switch." But people without VIP, or money for VIP, don't want to delay. Inconvenience really does need to be taken into account, because if something's convenient it will be more popular. It's human nature, and still affects us in a game.

Are you kidding me? You hate king of the hill? I LOVE THAT SHOW. I wish Hank was my dad

It shouldnt be what the marjority thinks or what anyone on here thinks about it i bet half the people that say i like koth goes to a fort once a year me and pazx are trying to get rid of it because where at a fort basically every single day and we mean the majority that take forts, hate it because in the end the people that actually go to these forts should be the people with a say

I bet half the people agruing with us right now go to a fort once a week where there every single day of the week and i bet nearly everyone on here arent running a guild that takes forts often we want these forts to change back because there a good easy fort to take at the end of the week, if you dont know how hard it is to lead a successful attack on a fort every single day you really shoudnt be here, because you dont know what its like and why we want them changed so bad

Lmao

Thats how much trouble hes going to just to change these forts back.

It should be the majority, actually. Because the game depends on majority rules. Almost all systems do. Being involved more, believe it or not, doesn't change anything. And really? Once a year? I go to a fort quite often.My guild loves to pk. Now, guilds that like to pk can actually get a fort AT THE SAME TIME. :D We get to run in there and kill everything, and can take the fort just like that. And I'm no good at standing and hitting a flag. It seems so redundant.

Ok, after deciphering this part... You're actually being incredibly selfish, like the other players who DEMAND that the admins/staff change something. Not everything is about you or the kind of people you are. This type of tower is for people who like different kinds of things. You have 3 other towers. Go use them, or go to the other ones on the facebook server. Use your own advice, guys. Let other people enjoy it without severe inconvenience.