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iChronic 12-17-2013 08:58 AM

Stolen guild!
 
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I’m posting this thread in behalf of the original members of Munchies and Firefighter Jeffrey (because they don’t know how to start a thread on Graalians!)

Sooo apparently the guild Munchies was hijacked today by a girl called Kristina. Kristina claims that Droozy, the original owner of Munchies, stole the guild from her. From what I understand, Droozy has been inactive and has passed down leadership authority to Jorge. Jorge has also been inactive but have told members to continue towering. Anyway, Kristina somehow managed to gain guild ownership and was able to kick everyone out of the guild. It’s still unknown how she got the guild but people are starting to say that she managed to deceive an admin into giving her the guild by claiming that Droozy stole it from her. Jorge certainly didn’t give her it because I’ve been told that he hasn’t been online for two months. So, Kristina either got the guild through hacking or had an admin give her it!

The members of Munchies started contacting staff but their questions were pretty much unanswered. Their first inquiry was laughed at by a staff member who apparently called them ******ed!

Kristina refuses to hand over leadership and claims that she owns the guild. But I believe she stole it to get the hat! Munchies had 500+ hours the last time I played and already had designs for a 1k hat! I believe that she’s only interested in getting a guild hat because she’s already recruited members to help her reach 1k! Anyway, Kristina sounds like a real bitch. I hope this gets sorted out soon.


P.S.

I know this is in the wrong section. I deliberately posted it here so that it will be noticed!

edit:

Firefighter Jeffrey took the pictures not me! Dont add more hours to my ban lol.. I'm not evading it.

Maxy 12-17-2013 09:33 AM

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Posted by iChronic (Post 436612)
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Anyway, Kristina somehow managed to gain guild ownership and was able to kick everyone out of the guild. It’s still unknown how she got the guild but people are starting to say that she managed to deceive an admin into giving her the guild by claiming that Droozy stole it from her. Jorge certainly didn’t give her it because I’ve been told that he hasn’t been online for two months. So, Kristina either got the guild through hacking or had an admin give her it!

hmm seems suspicious since Ive never seen anyone hack it, and staff arent allowed to do that

Myst 12-17-2013 09:34 AM

yes she hacked to get a guild.

-Albus 12-17-2013 10:00 AM

I don't get how people still have this problem. If you don't want your guild stolen, don't give anyone else leadership of the guild.

iChronic 12-17-2013 11:05 AM

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Posted by Maxy (Post 436613)
hmm seems suspicious since Ive never seen anyone hack it, and staff arent allowed to do that

Ye ikr. I highly doubt she can hack but that's what Jeffrey and everyone in Munchies think.
http://i.imgur.com/DAhYATf.png
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Posted by -Albus (Post 436616)
I don't get how people still have this problem. If you don't want your guild stolen, don't give anyone else leadership of the guild.

Yes, but I don't think you understand. Jorge hasn't been online for 2 months o.0...I don't think he gave anyone the guild :P

Zazzi* 12-17-2013 01:44 PM

A week ago a member of munchies had on his status that he was selling the guild to whoever would pay for it through his status and I don't even think you can hack that since I know most of these kids can't seem to understand what a hack really is, but still I don't even think admins give anyone guilds without even a simple piece of evidence. Whoever had leadership gave it over. His fault don't blame her for hacking because it seems like she has absolutely no knowledge of that and don't blame admins. Most people on these forums don't even play the game long enough to even check up on everyone and they assume people are just inactive for how long.

iDylan 12-17-2013 01:47 PM

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Posted by Zazzi* (Post 436652)
but still I don't even think admins give anyone guilds without even a simple piece of evidence.

uhh yes they do. Rufus did it for me :].

Zazzi* 12-17-2013 01:48 PM

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Posted by iDylan (Post 436653)
uhh yes they do. Rufus did it for me :].

Did you prove it was your guild?

Ramaz Adelphos 12-17-2013 02:05 PM

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Posted by Zazzi* (Post 436652)
A week ago a member of munchies had on his status that he was selling the guild to whoever would pay for it through his status and I don't even think you can hack that since I know most of these kids can't seem to understand what a hack really is, but still I don't even think admins give anyone guilds without even a simple piece of evidence. Whoever had leadership gave it over. His fault don't blame her for hacking because it seems like she has absolutely no knowledge of that and don't blame admins. Most people on these forums don't even play the game long enough to even check up on everyone and they assume people are just inactive for how long.

I agree. And for all we know the girl could be the one telling the truth. The girl will probaly be able to keep the guild forev

Kurohime 12-17-2013 02:31 PM

Jorge has been on within the past week because he was pming me and he emailed me his idea for the munchies 1k hat.

Odin 12-17-2013 03:08 PM

It's not true that admins gave Kristina guild ownership because of the leaders inactivity because in my old guild (Disobey) The guild leader didn't epbeen on for 154 days but now he's back it's still there

Sicx 12-17-2013 03:49 PM

ok.

Thallen 12-17-2013 06:51 PM

Honestly I didn't read the OP (but I'm familiar with this situation). This whole situation is laughable. You're not going to convince me to believe that some teenage Graal girl "hacked" the guild away from someone. Therefore:
  1. The account was shared and she took it that way
  2. He sold the guild and this is his shameful way of not letting down members
  3. It was given away, by the owner or administrators, for some other reason

At the end of the day, only an idiot or a dishonest person would lose a guild.

Winter 12-17-2013 07:31 PM

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Posted by iChronic (Post 436612)
Anyway, Kristina sounds like a real bitch.

all i got out of that paragraph

Thallen 12-17-2013 07:36 PM

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Posted by Zazzi* (Post 436652)
A week ago a member of munchies had on his status that he was selling the guild to whoever would pay for it

Wow! And then the guild mysteriously changes hands with no explanation other than a girl "hacked" it! Let's get Sherlock Holmes on the case.

Rufus 12-17-2013 07:51 PM

Only Xor and I can transfer leadership of a guild without deleting it. Neither of us are involved in this scenario. It was therefore given by the leader to the person, and I'd hedge my bets that it was fine until they renamed the guild or didn't go through with some deal they had. Nobody on the staff team is going to get involved with that.

Dusty 12-17-2013 08:13 PM

Ain't no one **** with Firefighter Jeffery. Ain't no one.

GOAT 12-17-2013 11:39 PM

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Posted by Rufus (Post 436731)
Only Xor and I can transfer leadership of a guild without deleting it. Neither of us are involved in this scenario. It was therefore given by the leader to the person, and I'd hedge my bets that it was fine until they renamed the guild or didn't go through with some deal they had. Nobody on the staff team is going to get involved with that.

thallen told me its the same guy

twilit 12-18-2013 03:48 AM

Rumor has it "Kristina" is one Carly's noob accounts. Not sure if true, but very believable seeming as Carly has stolen accounts and guilds in the past. What probably happened was Drezzy allowed this character to use his account, and she transferred Munchies to this "Kristina" noob acct.

Moral of the story: Don't allow people to access your account, especially if its a girl wearing a white hair noob head that seems to be someone's 2nd account.

Darklink 12-18-2013 04:58 AM

I didn't read much of this thread since I'm lazy, just skimmed the general comments, but all I have to say is:
There's no such thing as stealing a guild
If you were stupid enough to give the leadership to a stranger or "hacker" that's your problem, don't cry about it
Is it even possible to hack a guild from someone and not be noticed? I don't know anything about graals coding or all that bs

iChronic 12-18-2013 05:45 AM

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Posted by Winter (Post 436725)
all i got out of that paragraph

haaaaaa lol

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Posted by twilit (Post 436849)
What probably happened was Drezzy allowed this character to use his account, and she transferred Munchies to this "Kristina" noob acct.

Ye.. I thought that too.

@Darklink, I'm not crying about it. It's not my guild d00d.

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ye TBH, Im starting to agree with Thallen.. it's a bit harsh but it seems more probable than the hacking accusation. It would suck if the guy DID lose his guild through a scam and we called him an idiot. lol. In hindsight, I believe there should be a new rule implemented when transferring guild ownership.. Maybe only allow people to transfer guilds when they buy a "transfer" license. This will also help stop people from creating "friend" guilds.. I'm sure you're all familiar with the noobs who transfer guilds to a random account so they can own more than one guild.. I really hate those fegs.

Darklink 12-18-2013 06:20 AM

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Posted by iChronic (Post 436886)
@Darklink, I'm not crying about it. It's not my guild d00d.

No not you, I mean people in general, and them. It's harsh, but cmon. Be smart and this won't happen

ufoburan 12-18-2013 06:23 AM

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Posted by Rufus (Post 436731)
Only Xor and I can transfer leadership of a guild without deleting it. Neither of us are involved in this scenario. It was therefore given by the leader to the person, and I'd hedge my bets that it was fine until they renamed the guild or didn't go through with some deal they had. Nobody on the staff team is going to get involved with that.

I had a feeling that for what problems could arise from it this would be something only certain higher up admins could do. I was gonna ask if that was the case but Rufus all ready answered that question.

I'm leaning towards deal gone awry on this one. I have seen a bunch of different things happen during the course of towering over the last year. Guild leaders getting banned,breaking their Idevice thus being unable to play graal at all,people trying to make deals with other guild leaders/members then those deals getting broken. And as well as in this case it seems the real victims are the loyal members who worked there pixelated butts off only to get kicked by the new leadership and get nothing for their efforts.

When it comes to an MMO I play by one simple motto DTA, Dont Trust Anybody.

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Posted by Dusty (Post 436733)
Ain't no one **** with Firefighter Jeffery. Ain't no one.

^This

Darklink 12-18-2013 06:26 AM

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Posted by ufoburan (Post 436893)

When it comes to an MMO I play by one simple motto DTA, Dont Trust Anybody.



Exactly. That^

iDylan 12-18-2013 09:53 AM

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Posted by Zazzi* (Post 436654)
Did you prove it was your guild?

proof as in having legit evidence (pictures)? no.

Blueh 12-18-2013 11:46 AM

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Posted by iDylan (Post 436938)
proof as in having legit evidence (pictures)? no.

Your signature fooled me again. I almost slapped my iPad.

Mizochi 12-18-2013 02:28 PM

I normally lurk graalians but this is something that has affected me being in munchies from the beginning and I had to make a account for it.

I just wanted to clear some things up for people who are still cloudy on what actually happened.

Currently if you search up munchies a it is owned by a fake drezzy and is asking for people to buy the guild off of him.
Munchies is currently renamed to grind and the leader obviously did this to be an ***** because she has not even made a attempt to tower after recruiting some of random people the day she stole it make it seem like she actually cared about it. She only comes on for like 10 minuted daily to most likely answer angry pms from our younger more angry members.
The original owner Drezzy has been on break since early november and is going to come back after christmas.
Jorge had access to his account while he was gone and transfered leadership to his main to lead us. Drezzy knew about this and is fine with it. He lead us well for 2 weeks until the guild was stolen.
Now after speaking to jorge for a while I can tell this wasn't done on purpose.
The guild was actually stolen when Jorge allowed Kristina to tug on his heart strings and takeget his account off of him while jorge was on a three day vacation.
During this time kristina transfered the account and from what I saw boosted on his account in a attempt to get him banned. (I saw the boosting but I was not 100% sure on what her intentions were)
It is also pretty hard to talk to her when she just blocks most of our members after asking questions

If anyone has any questions I will try my best to clear them up because I really don't want see 600hrs and 4 months of friendship lost to some idiot.

Ryan 12-18-2013 02:55 PM

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Posted by Mizochi (Post 436973)
I normally lurk graalians but this is something that has affected me being in munchies from the beginning and I had to make a account for it.

I just wanted to clear some things up for people who are still cloudy on what actually happened.

Currently if you search up munchies a it is owned by a fake drezzy and is asking for people to buy the guild off of him.
Munchies is currently renamed to grind and the leader obviously did this to be an ***** because she has not even made a attempt to tower after recruiting some of random people the day she stole it make it seem like she actually cared about it. She only comes on for like 10 minuted daily to most likely answer angry pms from our younger more angry members.
The original owner Drezzy has been on break since early november and is going to come back after christmas.
Jorge had access to his account while he was gone and transfered leadership to his main to lead us. Drezzy knew about this and is fine with it. He lead us well for 2 weeks until the guild was stolen.
Now after speaking to jorge for a while I can tell this wasn't done on purpose.
The guild was actually stolen when Jorge allowed Kristina to tug on his heart strings and takeget his account off of him while jorge was on a three day vacation.
During this time kristina transfered the account and from what I saw boosted on his account in a attempt to get him banned. (I saw the boosting but I was not 100% sure on what her intentions were)
It is also pretty hard to talk to her when she just blocks most of our members after asking questions

If anyone has any questions I will try my best to clear them up because I really don't want see 600hrs and 4 months of friendship lost to some idiot.

This Kristina person may seem like a little girl, but she's actually a shifty smart ho

Mizochi 12-18-2013 03:05 PM

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Posted by Ryan (Post 436979)
This Kristina person may seem like a little girl, but she's actually a shifty smart ho

She did this because she knew she would get away with it

iDylan 12-18-2013 03:15 PM

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Posted by Blueh (Post 436958)
Your signature fooled me again. I almost slapped my iPad.

That's the reason why one day you see a certain person posting on the forums, and the next day they're gone. It's all the signature's fault..

ufoburan 12-18-2013 03:29 PM

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Kind of makes me glad im not towering much these days. Much happier hiding in my guild house.

Thallen 12-18-2013 09:55 PM

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Posted by Mizochi (Post 436973)
Jorge had access to his account while he was gone and transfered leadership to his main to lead us. Drezzy knew about this and is fine with it.

Ban both for account sharing.

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Posted by Mizochi (Post 436973)
The guild was actually stolen when Jorge allowed Kristina to tug on his heart strings

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Mejico Josh 12-18-2013 10:10 PM

Moral of the story: dont share accounts with ******s

Thallen 12-18-2013 10:15 PM

Sure is a suspicious tale considering I guarantee the leader of "Grind" is a Carly alt account, and Jorgee is now in another guild ("Illuminate") alongside Carly. You Munchies kids have been bamboozle'd.

Are you sure that Jorgee "falling in love with Kristina" isn't a front that he put on just so he could pass on the leadership of a guild he felt unfit to lead to one of his friends? IMO, and in any possible situation, if I was a member of Munchies and worked hard at towers then I'd be mad at this guy for being such an idiot. Not sure why some are defending him.

Mejico Josh 12-18-2013 10:43 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 437071)
Sure is a suspicious tale considering I guarantee the leader of "Grind" is a Carly alt account, and Jorgee is now in another guild ("Illuminate") alongside Carly. You Munchies kids have been bamboozle'd.

Are you sure that Jorgee "falling in love with Kristina" isn't a front that he put on just so he could pass on the leadership of a guild he felt unfit to lead to one of his friends? IMO, and in any possible situation, if I was a member of Munchies and worked hard at towers then I'd be mad at this guy for being such an idiot. Not sure why some are defending him.

Holmes you have cracked the case

Thallen 12-18-2013 10:58 PM

Ya, I actually have 100% proof that Carly is the owner of the Kristina account and I can't post it here because it has to do with comparing linked Facebook accounts of Graal accounts (which would probably get me banned if I posted a video proving that I did such a thing). You don't have to believe me if you don't want to, it hurts me none, but Carly is Kristina. Jorgee is a scumbag. The end of this story.

Just delete this post if you find that it breaks any of the forum rules, I won't mind.

meganey98 12-18-2013 11:27 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 437089)
Ya, I actually have 100% proof that Carly is the owner of the Kristina account and I can't post it here because it has to do with comparing linked Facebook accounts of Graal accounts (which would probably get me banned if I posted a video proving that I did such a thing). You don't have to believe me if you don't want to, it hurts me none, but Carly is Kristina. Jorgee is a scumbag. The end of this story.

Just delete this post if you find that it breaks any of the forum rules, I won't mind.

Wow Carly surprise us a lot. She was acting as Brianna last week and I skype'd her and didn't even notice that she was Carly..
How many accounts does she have?

GOAT 12-18-2013 11:51 PM

wow you noobs sound like fn losers. haven't seen so much gossip since I walked by a circle of old ladies. you mofos invest more time in your cyber life than your real life.

drezzy haha wtf I thought it was droozy.

iChronic 12-19-2013 02:32 AM

LOLLLLLLL WHO TF IS THIS "CARLY"? Her name keeps popping up every time a guild gets stolen!!! Is this the same Carly that got reset for boosting? Is this the same Carly that had her bf to spar in her account?

Also, Thallen if you have legitimate proof just post it here. f*ck the rules man. #yolo #swag #2014... Jk, you dont have to if you dont want to.

Blueh 12-19-2013 04:00 AM

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Posted by iChronic (Post 437166)
LOLLLLLLL WHO TF IS THIS "CARLY"? Her name keeps popping up every time a guild gets stolen!!!

I was seriously about to ask that. Who the hell are these people and what makes them so special enough for us to devote our lives tracking their every movement? The only thing that has crossed my mind when reading about this 'Carly' was Carley Rae Jespen, and now thanks to you I have that damned song stuck in my head. Now so do all of you.

MrSimons 12-19-2013 04:12 AM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 436733)
Ain't no one **** with Firefighter Jeffery. Ain't no one.

someone is :(

Darklink 12-19-2013 07:03 AM

woe

Odin 12-19-2013 08:09 AM

^Me

ufoburan 12-19-2013 10:12 AM

Best Novella ever (thats a Mexican soap opera) any ways Its kind of fun watching all the youngins trying to find love on a game with people tens of thousands of miles away that they will never meet IRL and then go completely ******ed over.

Darklink 12-20-2013 02:28 AM

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Posted by Orbitus (Post 437229)
^Me

wut


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