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JhinSavage 12-30-2013 01:40 PM

Zone Patrol
 
I hope you guys come to realise that being staff is more than just going around the gmap on boots and showing off. I've pmed several zone patrol members about the problems I am experiencing only to be ignored. You're here to help players Tashkin shouldn't be the only one on the staff team to actually help players he's the manager which makes him much busier than all of you combined get it together your player base is small you should be able to reply to every pm. You shouldn't set your pms to friends only after somebody pms you with a problem they are experiencing it's your job to help them.


That is all bye. :D

doodleman171 12-30-2013 05:41 PM

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Posted by JhinSavage (Post 440027)
I hope you guys come to realise that being staff is more than just going around the gmap on boots and showing off. I've pmed several zone patrol members about the problems I am experiencing only to be ignored. You're here to help players Tashkin shouldn't be the only one on the staff team to actually help players he's the manager which makes him much busier than all of you combined get it together your player base is small you should be able to reply to every pm. You shouldn't set your pms to friends only after somebody pms you with a problem they are experiencing it's your job to help them.


That is all bye. :D

Pics please.

Waterbottle 12-30-2013 05:54 PM

Any admins that use their powers for fun or to showoff will be fired.

JhinSavage 12-30-2013 06:13 PM

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Posted by Waterbottle (Post 440067)
Any admins that use their powers for fun or to showoff will be fired.

You obviously haven't been playing Graal for very long ;)

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 440061)
Oh no, not another asskisser wanna be admin.

If I wanted to join the staff team I'd apply. I'm simply speaking my mind I couldn't give a darn about being an administrator

Shiz 12-30-2013 06:15 PM

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Posted by JhinSavage (Post 440071)
You obviously haven't been playing Graal for very long ;)



If I wanted to join the staff team I'd apply. I'm simply speaking my mind I couldn't give a darn about being an administrator


Waterbottle is correct. Tashkin stated more than once if any staff member is roaming about abusing his/her powers, they will be punished.

The thing that you should've done is taken a pic or recorded a video and sent it in to [email protected]

JhinSavage 12-30-2013 06:21 PM

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Posted by ShizGodsu (Post 440073)
Waterbottle is correct. Tashkin stated more than once if any staff member is roaming about abusing his/her powers, they will be punished.

The thing that you should've done is taken a pic or recorded a video and sent it in to [email protected]

You guys obviously aren't reading the thread properly I'm not talking about abusive admins I'm talking about lazy ones

Keeluah 12-30-2013 06:50 PM

There is no reason at all for a ZP member to have his or her options set to PMs from friends only. All questions and needs for assistance should not be ignored by a ZP, unless it's those common "Can I have your doll", ect. If a ZP goes AFK, they should have some way of notifying all players and reply to all PMs as soon as they get back.

Send me a PM on Zone about your problems and who set their PM to friends only and ignore you and I will talk to them myself, I'm *KilluaZ, the Zone Patrol Captain.

xDesire 12-30-2013 06:58 PM

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Posted by doodleman171 (Post 440065)
Pics please.

Gg
http://i.imgur.com/hWGBJGS.png

JhinSavage 12-30-2013 07:29 PM

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Posted by xDesire (Post 440082)

This^ she set her pms to friends after I asked for help she also ignored me.

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Posted by Killua* (Post 440080)
There is no reason at all for a ZP member to have his or her options set to PMs from friends only. All questions and needs for assistance should not be ignored by a ZP, unless it's those common "Can I have your doll", ect. If a ZP goes AFK, they should have some way of notifying all players and reply to all PMs as soon as they get back.

Send me a PM on Zone about your problems and who set their PM to friends only and ignore you and I will talk to them myself, I'm *KilluaZ, the Zone Patrol Captain.

Somebody actually read the thread! Thank you

John 12-30-2013 07:35 PM

I suggest all managers tell their staff to take off pm only. I asked this Cassie a question last week when she was in front of me talking to other people and she ignored me only because I'm new.

JhinSavage 12-30-2013 07:41 PM

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Posted by John J Johnson (Post 440088)
I suggest all managers tell their staff to take off pm only. I asked this Cassie a question last week when she was in front of me talking to other people and she ignored me only because I'm new.

^ this is why iOS staff has such a bad reputation Cassie only bothers to talk to a small group of people

xDesire 12-30-2013 07:43 PM

Cassie quite oftenly has pms set to friends only, I joined her squad once and she was actively talking in it, yet she wasn't helping people. X.x

iHot 12-30-2013 08:10 PM

As a ZPA setting messages to friends only isn't the best thing. You're still Zone Patrol. You need to help everyone not just the people you've added. None of the SPR's on Era and none of the GPA's on Classic do this. Cassie isn't a developer so she should not be disabling pms like that.

PerfectDark 12-30-2013 08:10 PM

As it stands right now, PMs are enabled for anyone on their staff tag, this includes our Working (Not the best idea for having PMs enabled for this tag) and Lurking tags. When I say "enabled", I mean "PMs from friends only" is disabled. I will look into the matter with Cassie's PMs being set to friends only but I can assume that you tried to PM her when she is working on projects. I will also look into maybe adding an alert saying that a staff member is afk.

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Posted by iHot (Post 440094)
As a ZPA setting messages to friends only isn't the best thing. You're still Zone Patrol. You need to help everyone not just the people you've added. None of the SPR's on Era and none of the GPA's on Classic do this. Cassie isn't a developer so she should not be disabling pms like that.

She does many things, and she does develop and plan.
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Posted by PerfectDark
I will look into the matter with Cassie's PMs being set to friends only but I can assume that you tried to PM her when she is working on projects.


iHot 12-30-2013 08:12 PM

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Posted by PerfectDark (Post 440095)
As it stands right now, PMs are enabled for anyone on their staff tag, this includes our Working (Not the best idea for having PMs enabled for this tag) and Lurking tags. When I say "enabled", I mean "PMs from friends only" is disabled. I will look into the matter with Cassie's PMs being set to friends only but I can assume that you tried to PM her when she is working on projects. I will also look into maybe adding an alert saying that a staff member is afk. Additionally, Graalians.com is not the best place to discuss topics of this nature, it is better to contact a high staff member by PM or by Email.

Nonetheless Cassie is not a developer. She's a Zone Patrol Admin. Her PM's should never be friends only. I can see a busy developer doing that but as a ZPA it is part of your job to answer questions.

JhinSavage 12-30-2013 08:18 PM

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Posted by iHot (Post 440096)
Nonetheless Cassie is not a developer. She's a Zone Patrol Admin. Her PM's should never be friends only. I can see a busy developer doing that but as a ZPA it is part of your job to answer questions.

^ If she wants to be a developer then make her one. But as of now she should be answering questions/helping people out

PerfectDark 12-30-2013 08:35 PM

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Posted by iHot (Post 440096)
Nonetheless Cassie is not a developer. She's a Zone Patrol Admin. Her PM's should never be friends only. I can see a busy developer doing that but as a ZPA it is part of your job to answer questions.

I will look into why they were.

Ghettoicedtea 12-30-2013 09:22 PM

Ok this is not a asskissing thread, that is my fault and im sorry. Its the first sentence that got me goin. Sorry.

PumaD 12-30-2013 11:02 PM

Why do you even afk or stay on your client while you're busy when being a ZP? I don't get that.

(As Desire said, she was 'activly speaking to her guildies'[her friends probably]. I can't imagine her being too busy with all her developibg and planning while doing this, zzZ.)

Meatman204 12-30-2013 11:11 PM

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Posted by PumaD (Post 440141)
Why do you even afk or stay on your client while you're busy when being a ZP? I don't get that.

(As Desire said, she was 'activly speaking to her guildies'[her friends probably]. I can't imagine her being too busy with all her developibg and planning while doing this, zzZ.)

I agree. Simply.

Zone Patrols go out and help people and other staff, they shouldn't be doing anything else unless they have another position, such as working on GFX, or coding while patrolling partially around iZone.

Cookie Xanadu 12-31-2013 12:59 AM

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Posted by JhinSavage (Post 440027)
You shouldn't set your pms to friends only after somebody pms you with a problem they are experiencing it's your job to help them.
That is all bye. :D

Preach it brother! Honestly though, you should never set anyone on ignore or have it set to friends only. I've been told numerous times by some people to simply just put a harassing player on ignore, but that shouldn't be so, as they might actually need help in the future, and you as a ZP/GP/PR are obligated to help them anyways. Which is why I support actively jailing/banning players that harass staff constantly for small amounts of time, rather than setting them to ignore. At least that's what I was always taught to do on Era, and it worked out quite well.

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Posted by Meatman204 (Post 440144)
I agree. Simply.

Zone Patrols go out and help people and other staff, they shouldn't be doing anything else unless they have another position, such as working on GFX, or coding while patrolling partially around iZone.

This is one thing I disagree with. As a ZP, you should have you tag on publicly and as often as possible (Whether it be ZP, Lurking, or what have you). It lets players know who's available to help them, and who they direct their questions to. We do this on Era and it's a tremendous help to any newbies that come.

MrSimons 12-31-2013 02:21 AM

Cassie afk's because she does dev work; or is communicating to other staff outside of client. And I really wouldnt complain about that as if she didnt do dev work the server wouldnt have half the content it does.. As for the pms off thing I have no idea whats going on; I cant even turn my PMs off and all im supposed to do is make graphics and tell people what to do lol (no PR work).

As for staff not working, you are 100% wrong, almost every dev you message will respond; even if they were workin when you messaged them. And I dont know what you are referring to by abuse of power, NO ONE on the ZP team does, and Ive given every GFX staff ive hired a lengthy talk explaining how they may use their staff tools, and that they will be fired if they fail to use them properly.

Keep in mind I'm mostly talking in terms of Graphics and Dev Staff; as I am not completely knowledgable in what the ZP Team does.

Sariss 12-31-2013 02:34 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 440197)
Cassie afk's because she does dev work; or is communicating to other staff outside of client.

I don't understand why she couldn't have logged off if she was doing this.

iHot 12-31-2013 04:04 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 440197)
Cassie afk's because she does dev work; or is communicating to other staff outside of client. And I really wouldnt complain about that as if she didnt do dev work the server wouldnt have half the content it does.. As for the pms off thing I have no idea whats going on; I cant even turn my PMs off and all im supposed to do is make graphics and tell people what to do lol (no PR work).

As for staff not working, you are 100% wrong, almost every dev you message will respond; even if they were workin when you messaged them. And I dont know what you are referring to by abuse of power, NO ONE on the ZP team does, and Ive given every GFX staff ive hired a lengthy talk explaining how they may use their staff tools, and that they will be fired if they fail to use them properly.

Keep in mind I'm mostly talking in terms of Graphics and Dev Staff; as I am not completely knowledgable in what the ZP Team does.

But Cassie is a ZPA nonetheless. If she cannot answer questions make her a Developer Admin rather then a Zone Patrol Admin. As long as she wears the ZPA tag it is her job to answer questions.

Meatman204 12-31-2013 04:24 AM

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This is one thing I disagree with. As a ZP, you should have you tag on publicly and as often as possible (Whether it be ZP, Lurking, or what have you). It lets players know who's available to help them, and who they direct their questions to. We do this on Era and it's a tremendous help to any newbies that come.
Ah.. I fully understand you point. My bad.

JhinSavage 12-31-2013 04:24 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 440197)
Cassie afk's because she does dev work; or is communicating to other staff outside of client. And I really wouldnt complain about that as if she didnt do dev work the server wouldnt have half the content it does.. As for the pms off thing I have no idea whats going on; I cant even turn my PMs off and all im supposed to do is make graphics and tell people what to do lol (no PR work).

As for staff not working, you are 100% wrong, almost every dev you message will respond; even if they were workin when you messaged them. And I dont know what you are referring to by abuse of power, NO ONE on the ZP team does, and Ive given every GFX staff ive hired a lengthy talk explaining how they may use their staff tools, and that they will be fired if they fail to use them properly.

Keep in mind I'm mostly talking in terms of Graphics and Dev Staff; as I am not completely knowledgable in what the ZP Team does.

another person who didint read my thread properly awesome!.

1. I did not complain about any of the staff members abusing there powers.

2. If all she does is dev then make her a developer. She's a terrible zone patrol

3. This thread Isin't about developers not doing work it's about ZONE PATROL

Ghettoicedtea 12-31-2013 04:28 AM

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Posted by iHot (Post 440231)
But Cassie is a ZPA nonetheless. If she cannot answer questions make her a Developer Admin rather then a Zone Patrol Admin. As long as she wears the ZPA tag it is her job to answer questions.

oh doesn't this sound familier.... oh yeah, sam and making gun graphics instead of balancing guns thats right.

DraGun 12-31-2013 04:28 AM

If no other ZP's or staff are available, search my name using the Eurocenter search option. I'm on most of the time and I answer every single pms. I usually ignore things such as hi, can you host or can I have a doll. So make sure to ask the question in the first pm, instead of asking to ask a question! It would help and make it easier the first time.

Ghettoicedtea 12-31-2013 04:35 AM

or just look in the god damn guide, has everyone forgot about the guide and how that answers all in game questions on how to find stuff (your map is also a guide to find stuff, use it) and has everyone forgot that ZP moderate the game, answer questions that are account related (exp transfer, itunes didn't purchase that stuff not wheres the gun shop? Questions), and keeps a healthy relation with players and staff.

Platinum 12-31-2013 04:59 AM

I haven't been online recently due to vacation, but I can assure you the other ZPs don't seem to afk. When I am logged on I occasionally walk away to do necessities (going to the bathroom, getting food, etc.) as we all need to do them. Some of the reasons why we cannot immediately answer your pms are because we may be checking reports, busy with helping another player, or are simply unavailable. I, sometimes, feel as though I would like to put Pms from friends only on due to all the players asking for events and for my doll. But like DraGun I am happy to help, just search my name in euro center if no one else is online.

PumaD 12-31-2013 08:16 AM

It's funny how you guys (and gals) get defendive out of all sudden but you didn't wven read half of the replies/thread or you don't get the point of this obviously, lmfao.

Meatman204 12-31-2013 08:28 AM

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Posted by PumaD (Post 440325)
It's funny how you guys (and gals) get defendive out of all sudden but you didn't wven read half of the replies/thread or you don't get the point of this obviously, lmfao.

It's funny how you do the same thing and post something unrelevant to the topic of this thread. Get out of here, hobo.

DraGun 12-31-2013 09:53 AM

Talk about hypocrisy, @TW you claimed people take this game too serious when you yourself are raging over a post. But that is not it, you also rage everytime you don't win events (Trivia, Races, Hide & Seek etc.) Make sure you know what you're saying before accusing people of things. Best thing I would advice you to do is take a step back before you say something cause it just makes you look like a complete fool.

Dark Ice Cream 12-31-2013 10:44 AM

So now I know why...

@TW, I know every staff is a friend of you.. But you got way overboard.. Defending a friend even tho he/she is wrong? Thats a pity lol

PumaD 12-31-2013 10:50 AM

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Posted by Meatman204 (Post 440327)
It's funny how you do the same thing and post something unrelevant to the topic of this thread. Get out of here, hobo.

Oh, too cute. You're just doing the same, however my posts have a point most of my time and are thread-orientated. Nice try, though.

Why would a developer come across and talk about iZone's development team when it's clearly about the Patrols only, eh?

Isaac 12-31-2013 03:05 PM

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Posted by JhinSavage (Post 440236)
If all she does is dev then make her a developer. She's a terrible zone patrol

+rep

Isaac 12-31-2013 06:28 PM

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Posted by DraGun (Post 440339)
Talk about hypocrisy, @TW you claimed people take this game too serious when you yourself are raging over a post. But that is not it, you also rage everytime you don't win events (Trivia, Races, Hide & Seek etc.) Make sure you know what you're saying before accusing people of things. Best thing I would advice you to do is take a step back before you say something cause it just makes you look like a complete fool.

Kenovo (TwistedWizard's IGN) and his "cronies" (see: "Cool Kids Club") are all extremely hypocritical. They constantly support the idea of "not giving a damn", while in reality they are all exactly as you said, DraGun. Personally, I just ignore them; and only talk to them when necessary.

Personally, I had no problems with Killua (or most of the prior ZPAs, for that matter) as Zone Patrol Admin, regardless of whether or not he was "inactive in his duties".

Nyte* 12-31-2013 07:22 PM

Let me put in my 2 cents here. It truly is nice to see that even some of the zp members help with development, but the problem comes when what the OP says here. Although it is great you are helping with development, you are hired to help with the players. Make sure you have your priorities set straight.

Cassie 12-31-2013 07:50 PM

I'd just like to take the time to say that what I have done is wrong, yet I don't understand how it is possible on what occurred simply by the fact that you cannot set a staff's profile to have it set to PM's from Friends Only. So no, I can't have PM's from Friends Only often, as xDesire stated. Another point is that, and this is directly to the OP, that I responded to his claim and told him to message Tashkin as I could not help him with his request on a missing item or something of the sorts (I don't remember the issue). On the other hand, I do admit that I can be a little more helpful and a little less focused on development at the moment. I will take the time to ponder over my mistakes and yet again I am reiterating the fact that a staff member cannot set their PMs to Friends Only, and am truly sorry for the mistakes in the past. :( And as seeing as you all had a problem with me; you could have came directly to me, just saying. :o I think now would be a good time to implement the new ZP Staff system...

Meatman204 12-31-2013 08:06 PM

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Posted by PumaD (Post 440349)
Oh, too cute. You're just doing the same, however my posts have a point most of my time and are thread-orientated. Nice try, though.

Why would a developer come across and talk about iZone's development team when it's clearly about the Patrols only, eh?

Apparently, you keep being a defendant a**hole like you said to other people when I attacked your post, and then you proceed to start being a **** to others. I know, my post isn't talking about any of this topic, but can you please not be a **** to people you don't like and whoever does whatever wrong? Everyone doesn't need your opinions if you're being rude about it. Jesus, I can't stand it.

Isaac 12-31-2013 08:29 PM

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Posted by Cassie (Post 440439)
I'd just like to take the time to say that what I have done is wrong, yet I don't understand how it is possible on what occurred simply by the fact that you cannot set a staff's profile to have it set to PM's from Friends Only. So no, I can't have PM's from Friends Only often, as xDesire stated. Another point is that, and this is directly to the OP, that I responded to his claim and told him to message Tashkin as I could not help him with his request on a missing item or something of the sorts (I don't remember the issue). On the other hand, I do admit that I can be a little more helpful and a little less focused on development at the moment. I will take the time to ponder over my mistakes and yet again I am reiterating the fact that a staff member cannot set their PMs to Friends Only, and am truly sorry for the mistakes in the past. :( And as seeing as you all had a problem with me; you could have came directly to me, just saying. :o I think now would be a good time to implement the new ZP Staff system...

Apology accepted; from me at least. Now we'll just have to see what you've said here in action.

PumaD 01-01-2014 12:58 AM

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Posted by Meatman204 (Post 440447)
Apparently, you keep being a defendant a**hole like you said to other people when I attacked your post, and then you proceed to start being a **** to others. I know, my post isn't talking about any of this topic, but can you please not be a **** to people you don't like and whoever does whatever wrong? Everyone doesn't need your opinions if you're being rude about it. Jesus, I can't stand it.

"And another pointless reply of yours..",

I am not sure if you know what dicks and assholes are, but I prefer to not be like 'hey bro XD :3' over any forum and you are quiet weird.. if I was a rude ****, why did you second my opinion? mehhhh.

anyways, props2cas

MrSimons 01-01-2014 02:03 AM

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Posted by Sariss (Post 440199)
I don't understand why she couldn't have logged off if she was doing this.

So she can do ZPA work when she's done? She puts her working tag on so I don't see what the problem is, it's not as if she is the only staff member to ever be online.

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Posted by iHot (Post 440231)
But Cassie is a ZPA nonetheless. If she cannot answer questions make her a Developer Admin rather then a Zone Patrol Admin. As long as she wears the ZPA tag it is her job to answer questions.

If she is afk she usually has the working tag on; when she has her ZPA tag on she should be answering questions.

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Posted by JhinSavage (Post 440236)
another person who didint read my thread properly awesome!.

1. I did not complain about any of the staff members abusing there powers.

2. If all she does is dev then make her a developer. She's a terrible zone patrol

3. This thread Isin't about developers not doing work it's about ZONE PATROL

1. I believe others did; so I mentioned it.
2. She does a hell of a lot of ZP work too, saying she is horrible zone patrol staff makes you look really ignorant; seeing as I know for a fact she is one of the most active staff on the entire server and is able to do work for multiple departments. I once again dont see what your problem is with a staff member doing extra work to make the server better when there are other staff on to answer your messages.
3. I know; I mentioned developers because they do answer questions if you cant get a hold of a ZP.

Dark Ice Cream 01-01-2014 03:54 AM

Okie

xDesire 01-01-2014 06:39 AM

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Posted by Cassie (Post 440439)
I'd just like to take the time to say that what I have done is wrong, yet I don't understand how it is possible on what occurred simply by the fact that you cannot set a staff's profile to have it set to PM's from Friends Only. So no, I can't have PM's from Friends Only often, as xDesire stated. Another point is that, and this is directly to the OP, that I responded to his claim and told him to message Tashkin as I could not help him with his request on a missing item or something of the sorts (I don't remember the issue). On the other hand, I do admit that I can be a little more helpful and a little less focused on development at the moment. I will take the time to ponder over my mistakes and yet again I am reiterating the fact that a staff member cannot set their PMs to Friends Only, and am truly sorry for the mistakes in the past. :( And as seeing as you all had a problem with me; you could have came directly to me, just saying. :o I think now would be a good time to implement the new ZP Staff system...

If a ZP cannot set their profile to friends only, why did I recieve that message when I tried to pm you?

Nobodypoor 01-01-2014 01:53 PM

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Posted by xDesire (Post 440624)
If a ZP cannot set their profile to friends only, why did I recieve that message when I tried to pm you?

She may have been on her ios account.

iHot 01-01-2014 03:45 PM

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Posted by Nobodypoor (Post 440691)
She may have been on her ios account.

Name was gold. Does Cassie have iOS staff access?

Nobodypoor 01-01-2014 04:12 PM

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Posted by iHot (Post 440699)
Name was gold. Does Cassie have iOS staff access?

Yes i believe so.

JhinSavage 01-01-2014 04:17 PM

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Posted by Cassie (Post 440439)
I'd just like to take the time to say that what I have done is wrong, yet I don't understand how it is possible on what occurred simply by the fact that you cannot set a staff's profile to have it set to PM's from Friends Only. So no, I can't have PM's from Friends Only often, as xDesire stated. Another point is that, and this is directly to the OP, that I responded to his claim and told him to message Tashkin as I could not help him with his request on a missing item or something of the sorts (I don't remember the issue). On the other hand, I do admit that I can be a little more helpful and a little less focused on development at the moment. I will take the time to ponder over my mistakes and yet again I am reiterating the fact that a staff member cannot set their PMs to Friends Only, and am truly sorry for the mistakes in the past. :( And as seeing as you all had a problem with me; you could have came directly to me, just saying. :o I think now would be a good time to implement the new ZP Staff system...

apology accepted. But that's the problem we couldn't contact you directly because you ignored us lol.

MrSimons 01-01-2014 05:58 PM

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Posted by iHot (Post 440699)
Name was gold. Does Cassie have iOS staff access?

All Department Leaders do, so that would be why.


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