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KeN(Best) 12-03-2011 04:04 AM

The AK47 is only $2500 but, if u go head to head M4 vs AK47, what gun will have the advantage?

In my opinion, the Ak47 is better then the M4. Why? Well, the Ak47 doent curve bullets, so you will realy need to aim and that requires skill. Also, the fire rate of the Ak47 is higher then the M4s.

Shock 12-03-2011 04:14 AM

The M4 is much better! The accuracy is bad, so the diagonal shots are harder to dodge. Sure, the AK47 takes more skill to use. However, the M4 does 8 damage apposed to the AK47, 7 damage. Because it is easier to use makes it better, not the persons skill using it.

KeN(Best) 12-03-2011 04:20 AM

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Posted by Shock (Post 39645)
the M4 does 8 damage apposed to the AK47, 7 damage.

Your faceing me, im faceing you. We both spam, who will win? AK47 has the higher fire rate, so it will win almost everytime, only time it won't win that situation is when the gun must reload.

Shock 12-03-2011 04:24 AM

Meet me in beach spar after you read this Ken, with your AK. I want to see it. If I'm wrong, then I'll admit it. Hopefully my m4 isn't rusty or damaged.

KeN(Best) 12-03-2011 04:28 AM

Hehe, mine is not perfect or in good shape. I promise what i said is true, I have sparred with it mainly times, and have a decent stats because of it. Take my word, face to face the AK47 will pull the win if its just stand still spray.

Shock 12-03-2011 04:38 AM

Ok, after seeing it for myself... The results. The AK47 is better with it's firing rate. Head on with both players with full hp: AK47 wins. The M4 is good with damage, but the AK is simply faster. The AK is simply better, but it's perfect accuracy makes it hard to use effectively for players with low skill. Ken, kudos to you.

Fuzz 12-04-2011 07:39 AM

The AK-47 is much cheaper and it is basically the same because it is much faster and it is 1 damage less, you can even upgrade the AK-47 to 8 damage, if you wanted to.

Thunderstorm 12-04-2011 09:24 AM

Lol M4 all over the AK but considering the prices, I'd rather the AK :/

Sungwonc01 12-04-2011 08:59 PM

the m16 is very fast and does 8 damage. plus with gratlats packs its about 6 dollars and rivals the AK47. but it is 15,000 dollars but i got most of my pks from it.

Floyd Heart* 12-05-2011 05:58 PM

if youve played graal when it first came out the m4 was actualy 5500 but they rasied the prise i got it when it was 5500 so yea

i personaly like the m4 better cause im a kinda pro m4 sparrer but i think ken is a ak47 sparrer i think

KeN(Best) 12-05-2011 06:09 PM

Floyd, wasn't the first price $4,500? Idk I might be wrong, it's been forever hehe

Floyd Heart* 12-05-2011 06:26 PM

yea xD

its first was 4,500 then they raised it to 5,500 then to whatever the price is now xD

Shock 12-06-2011 03:31 AM

45000 now.

GM_Sam 12-06-2011 11:18 AM

It all depends on how you use it actually. Just think. But I would also say that the AK is better. I was thinking about buying M4 because it has a spread, but it curves the bullets, and has horrible accuracy! So you can choose what you want, but pick wisely, and keep the M4 disadvantages in mind!

0ddball 12-06-2011 03:36 PM

I would have choosen AK47. It is very fast, and 2,500 is not that expensive. If M4 still would have the price as 4,500 I would have said that one.

#5 12-07-2011 02:55 AM

In my opinion, I say it depends on the player's skill or purpose.
BUT...to me, the M4 is the victor as it has an 8 damage base and a nice spread. Even if Cloyd ruined it and most of the older guns.

KeN(Best) 12-07-2011 04:12 AM

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Posted by #5 (Post 41264)
In my opinion, I say it depends on the player's skill or purpose.
BUT...to me, the M4 is the victor as it has an 8 damage base and a nice spread. Even if Cloyd ruined it and most of the older guns.

Yea it mainly is about skill, only thingi like about the M4 is the curve.

Cloyd 12-07-2011 08:10 AM

Quote:

Posted by #5 (Post 41264)
In my opinion, I say it depends on the player's skill or purpose.
BUT...to me, the M4 is the victor as it has an 8 damage base and a nice spread. Even if Cloyd ruined it and most of the older guns.

How exactly did I ruin it? I never buffed/nerfed any of the older guns, I wasn't allowed to. The changes made to the original guns on iEra were not done by me. All I did was raise the prices. Sue me.

Thunderstorm 12-07-2011 08:13 AM

He means the prices Cloyd.

Cloyd 12-07-2011 08:23 AM

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Posted by Thunderstørm (Post 41358)
He means the prices Cloyd.

Sounds like he was indicating more than just prices in that comment. So, I was just clearing the air here. But yeah, I had the prices of guns raised. Some people like it and others don't. I never expected everyone to agree with that in the first place. I can take the hits from the players who disagree. No problem.

My computer broke and between work and school, I have no time to get it fixed. Which explains my absence. Before my computer broke I made 2 guns and left a comment for snk, but I don't think they were released yet.

Thunderstorm 12-07-2011 08:27 AM

Yer, but Cloyd may I ask, why did you up the prices of the guns?

Cloyd 12-07-2011 08:39 AM

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Posted by Thunderstørm (Post 41360)
Yer, but Cloyd may I ask, why did you up the prices of the guns?

Because I wanted the prices of guns higher. Honestly, it's simple as that.

My mistake at the time when doing that was I released a line of "good" guns, like the Shipka, BAR, Luger, etc.. So, the prices were obviously high. I wouldn't like releasing good guns for dirt cheap. Everyone thought that the prices of future guns would be in that area. As you can see, that was false. Also, I come from PC Era and it was the same there (I don't know if it still is, I haven't played on PC in about a year now) as it is here. I was also Guns Admin there. Actually, iEra's prices are better than PC's from when I played there.

Don't get me wrong though, I'm all up for new jobs and improvements to existing jobs to make money quicker. By all means. I am pushing for that and also the whole pawn shop concept. I'm all for that to.

The thing that just makes me laugh is when people assume that the main reason I raised the prices of guns was to make people buy gralat packs. FALSE. I mean, seriously.. why would I do that especially when it doesn't benefit me at all? These are just the prices I see fit. Like I said, some agree and others dont. Just because some guns are priced high doesn't mean all guns will be like that.

Thunderstorm 12-07-2011 08:42 AM

Ok, fair enough, the rumours are cleared up ;)
Basically you wanted to balance the guns so by raising the prices of M4 AK, etc you can show that the guns behind or in front of it are worse or better.

KeN(Best) 12-07-2011 08:05 PM

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Posted by Cloyd (Post 41364)
Because I wanted the prices of guns higher. Honestly, it's simple as that.

like a boss

Sungwonc01 12-08-2011 05:37 AM

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Posted by GM_Sam (Post 40998)
It all depends on how you use it actually. Just think. But I would also say that the AK is better. I was thinking about buying M4 because it has a spread, but it curves the bullets, and has horrible accuracy! So you can choose what you want, but pick wisely, and keep the M4 disadvantages in mind!

pepole use that "horrible accuracy" to kill a lot more people.

Acowinafield 12-21-2011 11:22 PM

you used to be able to ge m4's free from killing crabs


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