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Psycher! 01-20-2014 12:34 AM

Android Modding/Jailbreaking/Whatever
 
Today, I switched my phone carrier from Sprint to T-Mobile and traded in my iPhone 4 for a Nexus 5. I'm rather new to Android phones, so I would like to know if there is any sort of thing similar to jailbreaking an iDevice for them and if so, I would like some recommendations as to what to do.

5hift 01-20-2014 01:05 AM

Well I don't have an Android but from what I've heard,

Androids are a little less strict on phone modifications compared to Apple. (By modifications I mean by things like jail-breaking tweaks and stuff like that)

So have in mind you've got a little more freedom with an Android than with an iPhone.

That doesn't necessarily mean that Androids are better than iPhones so don't bother starting another flame war on that.

hosler 01-20-2014 01:36 AM

Yes. It's called rooting, and it's easy to do.

Blueh 01-20-2014 01:46 AM

HI PSYCHER. HOW ARE YOU PSYCHER? PSYCHER I MISSED YOU. HELLO AGAIN PSYCHER. *Emperor Zurg voice* WE MEER AGAIN, PSYCHER... FOR THE LAST TIME! >:0 ALSO ONE QUICK THING, HI PSYCHER.

Psycher! 01-20-2014 01:54 AM

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Posted by hosler (Post 446671)
Yes. It's called rooting, and it's easy to do.

Thanks, I'll look that up.
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Posted by Blueh (Post 446673)
HI PSYCHER. HOW ARE YOU PSYCHER? PSYCHER I MISSED YOU. HELLO AGAIN PSYCHER. *Emperor Zurg voice* WE MEER AGAIN, PSYCHER... FOR THE LAST TIME! >:0 ALSO ONE QUICK THING, HI PSYCHER.

HELLO BLUEH I AM GOOD HOW ART THOU

Dusty 01-20-2014 02:02 AM

It depends on what you're looking to do. Do you really need to root your device? Android is way more flexible than iOS and you can do a pretty wide array of things even with a stock device.

Psycher! 01-20-2014 02:05 AM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 446676)
It depends on what you're looking to do. Do you really need to root your device? Android is way more flexible than iOS and you can do a pretty wide array of things even with a stock device.

It was more out of curiosity and wanting to know what I can do with rooting the device. After some research, it seems like it does add some nice functionality, but it's not really enough for me to be interested in doing so.

Rexx 01-20-2014 03:37 AM

The only reason to root is if you're going to put custom roms on your phone.

If you just want thing like os themes, keyboards, emulators etc you dont really need to root.
Rooting is easy though and some apps may require it, not really any mainstream apps though.

iHot 01-20-2014 03:46 PM

I also did the T-Mobile uncarrier thing. I got an S4 at first but I hated it. Traded it for a 5S. Apple may be more protective but it is a lot better than an Android phone. My S4 was clunky and full of "bloatware" which is additional bull**** placed on your phone.

Apple4lyfe it's so much more efficient and reliable. PLUS we are safe from malware.

Nexus 5 looks nice though. Google keeps things very simple which I love.

Blueh 01-20-2014 04:25 PM

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Posted by Psycher! (Post 446674)
Thanks, I'll look that up.


HELLO BLUEH I AM GOOD HOW ART THOU

*Thor voice* I HAVE ART WELL IN THINE ABSCENCE, IT IS WONDERFUL TO MEET AGAIN, BROTHER! I WELCOME YOU HOME TO MIDGARDIA!

The Doctor 01-20-2014 05:25 PM

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Posted by iHot (Post 446771)
I also did the T-Mobile uncarrier thing. I got an S4 at first but I hated it. Traded it for a 5S. Apple may be more protective but it is a lot better than an Android phone. My S4 was clunky and full of "bloatware" which is additional bull**** placed on your phone.

Apple4lyfe it's so much more efficient and reliable. PLUS we are safe from malware.

Nexus 5 looks nice though. Google keeps things very simple which I love.

So essentially the only reason you don't like your S4 is because of the pre-installed apps? Guess what Apple has? Pre-installed apps. Also, get this, you can hide those apps.

Also, safe from malware? You're never truly safe from malware. Although Jailbreaking does give you root permissions to your phone, what if malware finds the same exploit, and uses root privileges to mess it up?

Also, on Android, the only way you're going to get malware is if you decided to go into Settings and allow apps to be installed not on the play store. Then you decide to do something stupid like downloading an app online.

Sariss 01-20-2014 08:46 PM

This isn't going to end well...

Dusty 01-20-2014 09:08 PM

Just so you know, Android doesn't have "bloatware." Service providers put that stuff on. It's a lot like buying a PC from Bestbuy or such, which will have a bunch of **** already installed on it, and then saying "Windows sucks because it comes with bloatware on it." The only difference is Android is open-source so you run into different flavors, and also it means it's very easy for carriers to make it so you can't remove those apps.

Rexx 01-20-2014 09:27 PM

Let the ignorant people keep their iPhones who cares, in the end everyone is happy right?
lol.

GotenGraal 01-20-2014 11:04 PM

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Posted by iHot (Post 446771)
I also did the T-Mobile uncarrier thing. I got an S4 at first but I hated it. Traded it for a 5S. Apple may be more protective but it is a lot better than an Android phone. My S4 was clunky and full of "bloatware" which is additional bull**** placed on your phone.

Apple4lyfe it's so much more efficient and reliable. PLUS we are safe from malware.

Nexus 5 looks nice though. Google keeps things very simple which I love.

What are you downloading on your Android device that makes it so unprotected? Yes, downloading Porn from sites like 4shared probably isn't safe!

hosler 01-20-2014 11:15 PM

Overclocking android phones is a big plus

metal 01-20-2014 11:57 PM

Android masterace reporting in.

iHot 01-21-2014 01:04 AM

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What are you downloading on your Android device that makes it so unprotected? Yes, downloading Porn from sites like 4shared probably isn't safe!

Sure you'd know all about that.

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Posted by hosler (Post 446865)
Overclocking android phones is a big plus

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Tried to overclock the Samsung Acclaim before. It overheated and stopped working lol

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Posted by The Doctor (Post 446782)
So essentially the only reason you don't like your S4 is because of the pre-installed apps? Guess what Apple has? Pre-installed apps. Also, get this, you can hide those apps.

Also, safe from malware? You're never truly safe from malware. Although Jailbreaking does give you root permissions to your phone, what if malware finds the same exploit, and uses root privileges to mess it up?

Also, on Android, the only way you're going to get malware is if you decided to go into Settings and allow apps to be installed not on the play store. Then you decide to do something stupid like downloading an app online.

Not just that. It had a clunky keyboard, a hard to navigate settings app and the Google Play store constantly froze. Apple is a much more solid experience to me. But I guess everyone is different. It also ran Graal very poorly although I'm sure its just the unrefined Android Application itself. The S4 should be running Graal great especially with it's great specs.

The Doctor 01-21-2014 04:49 AM

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Posted by iHot (Post 446898)
Sure you'd know all about that.



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Tried to overclock the Samsung Acclaim before. It overheated and stopped working lol


Not just that. It had a clunky keyboard, a hard to navigate settings app and the Google Play store constantly froze. Apple is a much more solid experience to me. But I guess everyone is different. It also ran Graal very poorly although I'm sure its just the unrefined Android Application itself. The S4 should be running Graal great especially with it's great specs.

You realize that there are hundreds or thousands of keyboards for android? Also the play store constantly freezing? Just seems like you had a bad manufacturer. I've never encountered an issue with my S3. Yah I wouldn't blame android for the horrible app experience of Graal because that's how Eurocenter developed it.

iHot 01-21-2014 10:52 PM

Android Modding/Jailbreaking/Whatever
 
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Posted by The Doctor (Post 446938)
You realize that there are hundreds or thousands of keyboards for android? Also the play store constantly freezing? Just seems like you had a bad manufacturer. I've never encountered an issue with my S3. Yah I wouldn't blame android for the horrible app experience of Graal because that's how Eurocenter developed it.

I know about the keyboards. I just wasn't too thrilled about the fact it saved personal info you typed in (credit card #'s, Address etc.)

hosler 01-22-2014 01:39 AM

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Posted by iHot (Post 447077)
I know about the keyboards. I just wasn't too thrilled about the fact it saved personal info you typed in (credit card #'s, Address etc.)

Eh. My phone doesn't do that unless I tell it to

DragonRider 01-25-2014 04:48 AM

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Posted by The Doctor (Post 446782)

Also, safe from malware? You're never truly safe from malware. Although Jailbreaking does give you root permissions to your phone, what if malware finds the same exploit, and uses root privileges to mess it up?

Also, on Android, the only way you're going to get malware is if you decided to go into Settings and allow apps to be installed not on the play store. Then you decide to do something stupid like downloading an app online.

Adware is still technically malware, the average user won't notice and the Play Store is terrible at moderation.
http://reddit.com/r/badapps
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comm...r_weekly_play/

Dusty 01-25-2014 05:49 AM

Ya, some apps will most definitely place shortcuts and spam notifications. Also, a lot of people don't really pay attention to the sort of privileges they are giving apps on install... such as giving a flashlight app access to almost everything, like phone numbers and gps.

iHot 01-25-2014 06:17 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 447878)
Ya, some apps will most definitely place shortcuts and spam notifications. Also, a lot of people don't really pay attention to the sort of privileges they are giving apps on install... such as giving a flashlight app access to almost everything, like phone numbers and gps.

What I don't understand is why a flashlight app needs access to all that. Yet another reason why iOS is superior.

Dusty 01-25-2014 06:55 PM

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Posted by iHot (Post 447984)
What I don't understand is why a flashlight app needs access to all that.

It doesn't, they use it to track information and such. People just don't care to use common sense.

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Posted by iHot (Post 447984)
Yet another reason why iOS is superior.

Just shut the **** up if you're not going to spew anything other than fanboyism.

Ivy 01-25-2014 07:01 PM

Another one of those threads again...

hosler 01-25-2014 07:32 PM

Android lets me be a bigger nerd. I can use my phone in my embedded projects.

Psycher! 01-27-2014 01:37 AM

All I did was ask a question, and a wild flame war appeared.

Dammit.

iHot 01-27-2014 03:22 AM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 447989)
It doesn't, they use it to track information and such. People just don't care to use common sense.



Just shut the **** up if you're not going to spew anything other than fanboyism.

damn dusty calm down

Dusty 01-27-2014 03:29 AM

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Posted by iHot (Post 448335)
damn dusty calm down

http://i.imgur.com/JTOaSss.gif

iHot 01-27-2014 03:47 AM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 448338)

Not sure if I should feel bad or enlightened that I was the first person you've used that on.

But seriously Dusty it's just a damn phone lighten up.

Blueh 01-27-2014 04:08 AM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 448338)

Cyanide and Dustiness

Talon 01-28-2014 08:35 AM

ITT: The eternal Xbox vs. Playstation debate of mobile OS.

MementoJoker 01-28-2014 01:16 PM

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Posted by hosler (Post 447104)
Eh. My phone doesn't do that unless I tell it to

I'm sorry hosler, I'm afraid I will have to save your credit card information.

Vivid 01-28-2014 01:40 PM

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Posted by Psycher! (Post 446643)
Today, I switched my phone carrier from Sprint to T-Mobile and traded in my iPhone 4 for a Nexus 5. I'm rather new to Android phones, so I would like to know if there is any sort of thing similar to jailbreaking an iDevice for them and if so, I would like some recommendations as to what to do.

O,o,o! I know!
It's called rooting, it basically depends on what device you have and can be as easy as downloading an app, to downloading ,factory resetting and almost ruining your device. For more information, go to the link below:
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/...-root-android/

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Posted by 5hifter (Post 446656)
Well I don't have an Android but from what I've heard,

Androids are a little less strict on phone modifications compared to Apple. (By modifications I mean by things like jail-breaking tweaks and stuff like that)

So have in mind you've got a little more freedom with an Android than with an iPhone.

That doesn't necessarily mean that Androids are better than iPhones so don't bother starting another flame war on that.

YES, I can prove this is true too, if any volunteer was to go onto the Apple AppStore and search "emulators" you probably wouldn't find anything.
However, try the same search with Google Play Store and you can find almost ALL compatable mobile Emulators paid and free.

Google is more caregiving and gives more free apps with more variety, while Apple gives HD and high quality gaming with online wield.

Finally, a thread I can understand!

MementoJoker 01-28-2014 03:07 PM

If you want to get a phone with 10/10 value I suggest the Motorola Moto G.
I would've bought it, but I'm sure I'll get buyer's remorse, because doesn't support external memory and I only stayed a year with my now dying Samsung S3 Mini (it randomly goes into power reset or unknown upload mode).

GotenGraal 01-28-2014 06:03 PM

Yeah moto G is a great value if you don't care for the highest possible specs. It's a good mid ranger. If you want the highest specs but still at a good pricepoint then Nexus 5 is the way to go.

MementoJoker 01-28-2014 06:27 PM

Nexus 5 doesn't have external SD support as well. :(

iHot 01-28-2014 07:06 PM

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Posted by GotenGraal (Post 448721)
Yeah moto G is a great value if you don't care for the highest possible specs. It's a good mid ranger. If you want the highest specs but still at a good pricepoint then Nexus 5 is the way to go.

It's a nice phone but unless your a casual phone user then the battery life is bad.

5hift 01-29-2014 01:33 AM

Welp...

On the topic of jailbreaking and such,

I finally jailbroke my iPhone 5C.

3 minutes later cydia magically disappears and my iCloud backup isn't working.

Yippee!

Vivid 01-29-2014 12:51 PM

For android they have an app called "freedom" (on YouTube for those of you info freaks)
And they offer 'in-app' purchases apparently unlimited.

I don't actually know if it works but just spreading the info guys :)

MementoJoker 01-29-2014 03:10 PM

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Posted by Loading...ERROR (Post 448998)
For android they have an app called "freedom" (on YouTube for those of you info freaks)
And they offer 'in-app' purchases apparently unlimited.

I don't actually know if it works but just spreading the info guys :)

It used to work until Google Play detected me using it and stopped opening until I uninstalled it. Also it's not worth it as I only bought the overpriced stuff.

hosler 01-29-2014 03:48 PM

You dont even have to root to get free apps

DragonRider 02-10-2014 09:27 AM

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Posted by hosler (Post 449016)
You dont even have to root to get free apps

I tried to pirate Sonic 2
http://i.imgur.com/hFdCQSy.jpg
Lel

Vivid 02-10-2014 12:50 PM

Yeah, " you don't have to root to get free apps"
It's easier with rooting, plus certain apps like " background recorder" and such require you to have a rooted app. Idk maybe just certain apps you want but need to root.

Also, if you use the website below you can get free apps. (If you didn't know) most are for android.4shared.com

+rep Memento Joker

(P.S. Keep in mind if you try to get apps like "Minecraft P.E" you can't update in the AppStore/Play Store unless you have actually bought the actual app in the store wich is pretty much useless in using the AppStore. Lol.)


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