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Vivid 02-24-2014 05:38 PM

Water Gun Nerfed >|:O
 
Is the water gun nerfed? I don't know how long it's been 5 damage, but for a strange reason I remeber it being 6. Why,why, would you want to nerf a gun like this? (I tested on one of those angry noob things, I haven't used the water gun in like, forever)

Wtf y.

yellowvz 02-24-2014 07:34 PM

I dont care what you think, neither does anyone else, I'm ok with the damage.. Besides, the gun is a water gun! Its going to suck because its water based (acid I guess is added)

Ghettoicedtea 02-24-2014 07:50 PM

the damage is 5 by default. However waterguns are always in perfect shape. So you get that +1 damage

John 02-24-2014 09:32 PM

Yeah GIT said it is always in perfect condition for that 1 damage, I do remember the water pistols being nerfed though because those things could spam like crazy.

Vivid 02-25-2014 06:56 PM

I know, but like you guys are saying "+1 damage" it's a base of 5 damage. So why does it just happen to not be 6 damage, and only be 5 damage?

John 02-25-2014 07:51 PM

You're totally right, I just tested on a crono at my house and it's 5. Sorry for jumping to conclusions. I guess they did nerf it wtf.

Ghettoicedtea 02-25-2014 08:04 PM

wtf people NPCs are scripted to take the normal damage that gun should be dealing. NPCs do not take that 1 extra damage bonus. If there was a 5 that popped up above the NPCs head, that's the base damage, if the gun says in perfect condition, then you get the damage bonus. To confirm this go to a afking noob, find the health points that person has, fire once into the person, if the bullet registers then tap on the person and notice the new damage output, and subtract the old HP - new HP and that's how much damage you're dealing.

XSTARX 02-25-2014 09:07 PM

Precisely.
Only melees will show the exact damage on Npc's cause their melees.
I'm not sure why guns don't do that.

Vivid 02-26-2014 12:55 PM

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Once again, a high spam gun is nerfed to be nothing.

As you can see, (attachment) the water gun still spams the same, but that extra +1 damage (now gone) DOES made a difference.
( 5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50) vs. ( 6,12,18,24,30,36,42,48,50)
10 bullet(s) 9 bullet(s)

XSTARX 02-26-2014 01:00 PM

What is that...

Vivid 02-27-2014 06:41 PM

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http://www.graalians.com/forums/atta...1&d=1393526453

Draco 03-01-2014 02:58 AM

So true, everything will be starting to get nerfed. I remember vividly the water gun being 6 too because I got a 40 streak with it, and to be honest I suck! :D

optimuswhat 03-01-2014 03:07 AM

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Posted by Draco* (Post 456580)
So true, everything will be starting to get nerfed. I remember vividly the water gun being 6 too because I got a 40 streak with it, and to be honest I suck! :D

Everything except the BAR will be nerfed, my friend.

Ghettoicedtea 03-02-2014 05:21 AM

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Posted by Vivid (Post 456246)

All that means is the guns base damage is 5. The gun is in perfect shape at all times therefor 6 dmg. Do this with anyother gun the same will happen

Vivid 03-05-2014 12:45 PM

Water gun always perfect=+1 damage? That would mean the base damage is.....4?

XSTARX 03-05-2014 12:48 PM

Water gun is always perfect...
Kanina can't you see?

Vivid 03-05-2014 01:34 PM

Least the spam isn't nerfed #shrug.

Nabu Lapse 03-05-2014 02:49 PM

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Posted by Vivid (Post 457759)
Least the spam isn't nerfed #shrug.

Did you read any other posts on this thread aside from your own? The gun wasn't nerfed. On npc's guns always do 1 less damage.

Vivid 03-05-2014 04:18 PM

=_= Water Gun is always Perfect. Damage used to be six, now the damage is five.
OBVIOUSLY, something had to change, or it would still be 6 damage I'm guessing.

imSupah 03-05-2014 05:38 PM

Dude... Water gun was not nerfed... Simply put..It's 5 dmg like it always was on NPCs and 6 dmg on players.

Vivid 03-05-2014 07:17 PM

....ok.

XSTARX 03-05-2014 10:56 PM

I'm guessing you don't even know how era system even works...

imSupah 03-06-2014 02:36 AM

NPC --> Base Damage
Players --> +1 Damage when gun is perfect shape.

Simple.

Vivid 03-06-2014 12:58 PM

K thx +rep

Vivid 03-19-2014 12:47 PM

Nerfed!!
 
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Now, I specifically remember the BASE damage being 6, and +1 would make it 7. An old website shows evidence

Johnaudi 03-19-2014 01:56 PM

JUST SO YOU KNOW.

Water can kill people. It's more lethal than watermelons!

Vivid 03-19-2014 02:06 PM

Yeah, I'm not mad about it, just the fact that it has changed. It was low damage to start I just don't understand the reason in it.

imSupah 03-19-2014 03:06 PM

No. That website is false. Machete is not even 7 damage, it's 8. Water was always 6 on human players. They are unique guns hence why the damage so low. Stop this debate. It's 6 on humans and thats that.

Johnaudi 03-19-2014 06:14 PM

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Posted by xSupah* (Post 460995)
No. That website is false. Machete is not even 7 damage, it's 8. Water was always 6 on human players. They are unique guns hence why the damage so low. Stop this debate. It's 6 on humans and thats that.

Graal character isn't human...

imSupah 03-19-2014 11:07 PM

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Posted by Johnaudi (Post 461015)
Graal character isn't human...


I said human players. I didn't say the Graal characters were human. You knew what I meant. So why even comment?

NeoZX 03-20-2014 12:25 AM

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Posted by Johnaudi (Post 460988)
JUST SO YOU KNOW.

Water can kill people. It's more lethal than watermelons!

Zone has an 8 damage watermelon cannon.

doodleman171 03-20-2014 04:34 AM

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Posted by Johnaudi (Post 460988)
JUST SO YOU KNOW.

Water can kill people. It's more lethal than watermelons!

There was a swarm of watermelons in the streets a few weeks ago.

Vivid 03-20-2014 04:06 PM

How interesting....
Who controls the gun stats, I heard something with Thallen, but other than that I don't know...


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