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Muttslaughter 12-07-2011 05:31 AM

STOP! (A couple questions about Baddies)
 
Hello I'm sorry if there is already a thread about this, I ran a search and didn't find one.

My first question is: Why on earth do the Baddies say "STOP!", Shouldnt they say "ATTACK!" or something?

Question two: Is it possible to recolor some of them? They don't have to be harder than others just a different color. Example Green in Swamptown, Red near Graal City, Yellow on Balam Isle, ect..

Third and final question: Concerning the three Baddies by the Castle, why can I only attack one of them?

Thank you for your time.

Pazx 12-07-2011 05:46 AM

STOP! I haven't the slightest. Because they want you to stop?

YES! And actually has been mentioned before, sounds good.

BECAUSE THAT AREA WAS MADE NON-PK FOR THE HAT SHOP.

Dusty 12-07-2011 05:51 AM

Baddies say "STOP!" because they're... telling you to stop. The same reason a police officer will tell you to freeze. The second one is simple, baddies do come in different colors... originally. On PC Graal they came in different colors to indicate their strength. Grey was the easiest, blue was stronger, and red was even stronger. I don't play iClassic, but I imagine they didn't bother with this.

Muttslaughter 12-07-2011 05:57 AM

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Posted by Pazx
BECAUSE THAT AREA WAS MADE NON-PK FOR THE HAT SHOP.

So why not move them somewhere else? There are alot of "dead" areas in game. Also it would be funny if they said "NOOO!!!" when they died or "AVENGE ME!"

Kc Ramone 12-07-2011 07:33 AM

I wouldn't mind seeing a baddie on a pogo stick, while juggling a few jump ropes. Might be entertaining.

Muttslaughter 12-07-2011 08:54 AM

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Posted by Dusty
Baddies say "STOP!" because they're... telling you to stop. The same reason a police officer will tell you to freeze.

This makes sense, but I associate the word "STOP!" with quit. They can't say "FREEZE!" because they are not cops they are bad guys. So why not make them say something douche-y like "HALT!"? That would make me want to kill all of them.

Froggy Krueger 12-07-2011 09:04 AM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 41333)
Baddies say "STOP!" because they're... telling you to stop. The same reason a police officer will tell you to freeze. The second one is simple, baddies do come in different colors... originally. On PC Graal they came in different colors to indicate their strength. Grey was the easiest, blue was stronger, and red was even stronger. I don't play iClassic, but I imagine they didn't bother with this.

There used to be a yellow Baddy by the castle that performed some sort of witchcraft (way back in 2009/early 2010), got removed cause the lightning explosions it spawned were buggy... Also you could kite it back to graal city and it would nuke everyone

BroozeB 12-07-2011 11:50 AM

"Stop" is the default script given to pre-set baddy NPC's and it's been around forever. I don't see anything wrong with it, at most it shows how stupid the baddies are.
"Attack" sounds like he's commanding a whole army
"Halt!" makes them sound like a civilized knight who says, "Halt, who goes there?". The baddies aren't civilized, they're moron's who don't have a brain.

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Posted by Muttslaughter (Post 41334)
So why not move them somewhere else? There are alot of "dead" areas in game. Also it would be funny if they said "NOOO!!!" when they died or "AVENGE ME!"

You could do that because all you have to do is type it in the pre-set script, but the baddies are pretty rough and mean...I would imagine them saying something more like "Dammit" or "See you in hell"
BUT I don't think that would be put on iPhone.

Tyler 12-07-2011 02:14 PM

I don't think we need different color baddies. What we need are new baddies. The bats were pretty cool and all, but it would be nice to see some newer baddies. I know they have a lot of different kinds of baddies they just don't use them. Maybe they should add/change baddies around the map so people will have fun killing new enemies. Personally I think they should make a mini dungeon and each room as you advance gets harder with more difficult baddies. Once you defeat all the baddies in each room the door opens and you move on to the next. In the final room they could have a treasure chest with a prize in it. Then you can do it again just for fun.

Muttslaughter 12-07-2011 03:25 PM

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Posted by TylerMysTe
Personally I think they should make a mini dungeon and each room as you advance gets harder with more difficult baddies. Once you defeat all the baddies in each room the door opens and you move on to the next. In the final room they could have a treasure chest with a prize in it. Then you can do it again just for fun.

I agree with this alot.

Brooze, you made some good points they are supposed to be stupid so "HEY!" could be a good replacement for "STOP".
I'm sorry guys I just don't think that word fits them. It's not going to change but we can have some fun here.
What else could they say?

P.S. Stormtroopers say HALT and no thinks of them as smart. Hell they can't hit a spaceship from 20 yards or a group of people in a hallway! Lol

Azrael 12-07-2011 10:01 PM

We've actually been working on creating "new" baddies - implementing the Old ones. We had some that we haven't really "released" yet. So now you can try them out in Master Li's Wood's - near MoD Fort. Please let me know what you guys think.


Side Note: The original ones are still in Swamptown.

Dusty 12-07-2011 10:07 PM

I don't see how "STOP!" is confusing... at all.

Shaun 12-07-2011 10:13 PM

I would like to see archer baddies and the ones that jump our of the ground. Also, the lizardrons. Cool, I'll check the new ones out.

Wow... the new baddies are cool :) I like how there are blue and red ones. Can you make the blood stuff collectible and like sell one to some guy at the castle for like 2-3 gralats? Just another plea for a 'job'.

Gambit Drakul 12-07-2011 10:28 PM

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Posted by Azrael (Post 41495)
We've actually been working on creating "new" baddies - implementing the Old ones. We had some that we haven't really "released" yet. So now you can try them out in Master Li's Wood's - near MoD Fort. Please let me know what you guys think.


Side Note: The original ones are still in Swamptown.

The one's near MoD fort are cool it reminds me of PC I say keep them like that XD

Tyler 12-07-2011 10:50 PM

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Posted by Azrael (Post 41495)
We've actually been working on creating "new" baddies - implementing the Old ones. We had some that we haven't really "released" yet. So now you can try them out in Master Li's Wood's - near MoD Fort. Please let me know what you guys think.


Side Note: The original ones are still in Swamptown.

They're really cool I like them.

Muttslaughter 12-07-2011 11:58 PM

I like them very much. "STOP!"

Higbey 12-08-2011 01:13 AM

"surrender!"

" get out!" (only for guarding baddys. Would be awkward having baddys in a open area saying this, might lead to players thinking they are enforcing the death penalty for disobeying "keep off the grass" signs )

Or my favorite
" Stand and deliver!"
( old old phrase used by highwaymen and other muggers)

BroozeB 12-08-2011 03:06 AM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 41602)
Or my favorite
" Stand and deliver!"
( old old phrase used by highwaymen and other muggers)

Runescape

Higbey 12-08-2011 03:37 AM

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Posted by BroozeB
Runescape

??? They had a reference to that? Well now that I think of it those guys with capes would say that wouldn't they?

MattKan 12-08-2011 03:48 AM

All I can think is Hermione going 'STOP!' whenever I see these baddies.

Muttslaughter 12-08-2011 11:27 AM

I know I said that was all my questions but I have one more. Are they (Baddies) going to drop gralats again or was that a failed experiment?

Higbey 12-08-2011 08:14 PM

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Posted by Muttslaughter
I know I said that was all my questions but I have one more. Are they (Baddies) going to drop gralats again or was that a failed experiment?

Oh it's not whether it's a failed experiment or not, it's most likely because Stefan / Unixmad decided to have it removed.

Kondie 12-08-2011 08:36 PM

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Posted by Froggy Krueger (Post 41372)
There used to be a yellow Baddy by the castle that performed some sort of witchcraft (way back in 2009/early 2010), got removed cause the lightning explosions it spawned were buggy... Also you could kite it back to graal city and it would nuke everyone

Haha, I remember that thing! Was actually a lot of fun to fight.

MrSimons 12-08-2011 11:03 PM

They changed the bodies to ones on PC....I have a nasty feeling people are gonna call them "Super Baddies"....

BroozeB 12-08-2011 11:12 PM

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Posted by Mr.$imons (Post 41853)
They changed the bodies to ones on PC....I have a nasty feeling people are gonna call them "Super Baddies"....

Probably Superman baddies or Big Baddies...or maybe not even that, maybe Big Monsters or something, Big *******

MrSimons 12-09-2011 12:06 AM

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Posted by BroozeB (Post 41856)
Probably Superman baddies or Big Baddies...or maybe not even that, maybe Big Monsters or something, Big *******

Ya, I will go and cry if I see them called that crap....

DragonRider 12-09-2011 05:14 AM

My first reaction to this thread title was HAMMERTIME

Yami 12-09-2011 05:49 AM

for the people that have questions about the "new" pc baddies, explore off map to destiny aka area below deadwood, they have been down there for a while, next halloween its said there due to release that bottom area, full of baddies, so players can have fun in the new area and get some baddy kills,

Azrael 12-09-2011 02:24 PM

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Posted by Yami (Post 41983)
for the people that have questions about the "new" pc baddies, explore off map to destiny aka area below deadwood, they have been down there for a while, next halloween its said there due to release that bottom area, full of baddies, so players can have fun in the new area and get some baddy kills,

I can say that is entirely a rumor and hasn't crossed anyone's mind on the Staff team. You need better sources!

Muttslaughter 12-09-2011 05:50 PM

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Posted by Azrael

I can say that is entirely a rumor and hasn't crossed anyone's mind on the Staff team. You need better sources!

But even you gotta admit Destiny would be a good name for a town and/or city

Winter 12-10-2011 10:13 PM

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Posted by Muttslaughter (Post 41329)
Concerning the three Baddies by the Castle, why can I only attack one of them?

My only concern. They have an unfair advantage! :(

Talon 12-11-2011 02:23 AM

Wait, if you stop, does it not kill you, like the old baddies? Cause if you froze in front of the old Baddies, they would just stare at you.

Yami 12-11-2011 12:48 PM

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Posted by Azrael (Post 42123)
I can say that is entirely a rumor and hasn't crossed anyone's mind on the Staff team. You need better sources!

Azrael please check RC log from about 4-6 mounths ago, read xors post, oh also my sources are very reliable, however i cant name them for about 6mounths too a year from now, or if i get the 'Okay' from them. I have to admit, all builds 'off map" are gone except for nimda island due to the fact none of the level links work because there so old/pc, and your vaction island, i mean no disrespect tord you in anyway, but when you try to prove me wrong just to keep it 'under raps' it hurts the situation on your part much more then it does mine. :rolleyes:

Azrael 12-12-2011 09:55 PM

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Posted by Yami (Post 42802)
Azrael please check RC log from about 4-6 mounths ago, read xors post, oh also my sources are very reliable, however i cant name them for about 6mounths too a year from now, or if i get the 'Okay' from them. I have to admit, all builds 'off map" are gone except for nimda island due to the fact none of the level links work because there so old/pc, and your vaction island, i mean no disrespect tord you in anyway, but when you try to prove me wrong just to keep it 'under raps' it hurts the situation on your part much more then it does mine. :rolleyes:

I'm sorry.

There may be discussion on RC for stuff, but nothing goes up until there is a Green light from a number of people - myself included.

You enjoy your "sources".


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