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Kyle Del. M. H. 04-12-2014 09:53 PM

Guild spar new scoring
 
I think guild spar scores should be relevant to 1v1 sparring:) it's easy to get past 64. On guild spar and is way to easy to get into a gst :/ that way people will have to earn their way to the top. More people trying to get to gst rather than recruit 4 good sparers and get to top 10 within like 15 spars without a loss. When you lose, it's much different, you lose a small portion of you're points so that you can't have like 5k guild spar points and always enter a gst. If you win a guild spar you get 10 points if you lose you deduct 5 points. Points never reset, they just get deducted if you lose. The more you win in guild spar the more points will be deducted so that it seems a bit fair. :D what's you're ideas?

Oj Fowler 04-12-2014 10:47 PM

Doesn't points lost scale with total point like the old single spar system?

Sicx 04-12-2014 10:58 PM

or just a wins over loses that resets each month

Kyle Del. M. H. 04-12-2014 11:51 PM

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Posted by Sicx (Post 467032)
or just a wins over loses that resets each month

That's what I was thinking instead of losing points it resets :smile:, but you only gain a small amount of points which is 10 so to make it difficult you lose! Many pro guilds will get a lot of points, they might as well gs 2 weeks before gst

Livid 04-13-2014 01:28 AM

Most losses category in BA library, just saying.

twilit 04-13-2014 01:48 AM

I actually thought about this before and do think its appropriate. All the "pro guilds" that make a couple big wins last minute before GST would actually have to get off their asses and practice some to keep their top spots.

Kyle Del. M. H. 04-13-2014 02:07 AM

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Posted by twilit (Post 467082)
I actually thought about this before and do think its appropriate. All the "pro guilds" that make a couple big wins last minute before GST would actually have to get off their asses and practice some to keep their top spots.

EXACTLY:D

Winter 04-13-2014 02:47 PM

Makes sense. It would stop the spontaneous rise of numerous freshly made guilds from occupying the top of the charts where actual dedicated teams have worked to be. This is my point of view being that my guild is around 1200-80 W/L and some guilds are far above us after 5-1. Also, I was leader of the first (according to my memory, years ago) guild to reach 9000 after 10-0 or so.. So I've been in both positions and can justify this.

Plus, I'd just really like to see actual active guilds be recognized and praised accordingly, because I think they deserve it. Not a fan of 835928057 small, short-lived guilds with ridiculous scores and the same 6 or 7 members.

Kyle Del. M. H. 04-13-2014 08:08 PM

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Posted by Winter (Post 467217)
Makes sense. It would stop the spontaneous rise of numerous freshly made guilds from occupying the top of the charts where actual dedicated teams have worked to be. This is my point of view being that my guild is around 1200-80 W/L and some guilds are far above us after 5-1. Also, I was leader of the first (according to my memory, years ago) guild to reach 9000 after 10-0 or so.. So I've been in both positions and can justify this.

Plus, I'd just really like to see actual active guilds be recognized and praised accordingly, because I think they deserve it. Not a fan of 835928057 small, short-lived guilds with ridiculous scores and the same 6 or 7 members.

:) thanks for feedback! Hope dusty or any scripters come across this and also consider it a good idea!

Oj Fowler 04-13-2014 10:06 PM

Implement a system like old 1v1 spar where you had to do so many spars before your score is recognised would eliminate these guild with ridiculous scores after 5 spars.

Kyle Del. M. H. 04-13-2014 11:18 PM

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Posted by Oj Fowler (Post 467339)
Implement a system like old 1v1 spar where you had to do so many spars before your score is recognised would eliminate these guild with ridiculous scores after 5 spars.

many guilds want to be #1 so it will be difficult to pass them, people want to have a very high score. Therefore it's not going to get easy if this becomes an improvement. After 1-3 weeks you'll probably need 2000 points to get on the lead board and you get 10 points per win so it's not going to be easy at all.

GOAT 04-14-2014 01:11 AM

good idea with reasoning behind it but I say it would disadvantage the player/guilds that dont have the time to stack up wins. A GST championship is pointless if the best possible teams are not allowed to join the tournament. I know its a guild spar tourney but it shouldnt be only for dedicated sparring guilds.

Thallen 04-17-2014 06:24 AM

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Posted by twilit (Post 467082)
"pro guilds" ... would actually have to get off their asses and practice


Oj Fowler 04-20-2014 11:41 AM

This system doesn't reward gs ability, why would people want to dedicate all of their graal time to gsing?

Kyle Del. M. H. 04-21-2014 02:29 AM

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Posted by Oj Fowler (Post 469192)
This system doesn't reward gs ability, why would people want to dedicate all of their graal time to gsing?

Don't they dedicate their gs time already? Maybe the top 10 highest guilds get a emote or some sort of prize relevant to gst?

Winter 04-26-2014 02:46 AM

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Posted by Oj Fowler (Post 469192)
why would people want to dedicate all of their graal time to gsing?

I used to be part of a large group of guild spar enthusiasts who woke up early on Saturdays to spar with foreign friends for a few hours. Some spoke no common tongue, some only logged on for that day. But we made great friends and had memorable times that I wouldn't trade away if given the chance. Everyone had a lot of fun. I guess this was about.. 2010?

I think our common phrases that we played around with mostly died out by now.. Anyone remember "There's an eel in my hovercraft!" or "BOWOWOWOWOWOWOW" spamming all over the screen?

Hadi 04-26-2014 03:06 AM

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Posted by Winter (Post 470311)
I think our common phrases that we played around with mostly died out by now.. Anyone remember "There's an eel in my hovercraft!" or "BOWOWOWOWOWOWOW" spamming all over the screen?

I remember the phrase BOWOWWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWWOW but I never knew what it was. Maybe it was because I was new to the game

twilit 04-26-2014 06:51 AM

Pretty sure it started because of the player named BOWOWOWOWOW

Thallen 04-26-2014 07:12 AM

admins went ahead and implemented my singles sparring leaderboard and I'm pleased with it thus far, but they still haven't implemented the catch-all fix for almost everything guild-related on Graal

make time-based restrictions and it literally improves things across the board
  • must be in a guild for 24 hours before you're able to enter and stay in a tower on that tag (kills "noob recruiting" and makes towering actually about choosing a quality guild, yet still allows PKers to enter and participate)
  • must be in a guild for 24 hours before you're allowed to GS on that tag (cuts into boosting up points in GS by recruiting people at random to help)
  • must be in a guild for 1 week before you're able to accept a GST invitation for that team (works together with the previous rule and eliminates this whole scramble for a team thing that makes it a "team spar tournament" rather than an actual guild thing)

"OH GOD, YOU MEAN TOWERING IS NO LONGER ABOUT SPAMMING THE RECRUIT BUTTON ON EVERYONE THAT WALKS BY? TERRIBLE IDEA THALLEN"
"WOW I ACTUALLY HAVE TO KIND OF COMMIT MYSELF TO A GUILD ANY LONGER THAN 1 HOUR BEFORE THE GST STARTS? THIS IS TOTAL BULL****"

Winter 04-26-2014 11:24 PM

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Posted by twilit (Post 470361)
Pretty sure it started because of the player named BOWOWOWOWOW

Yeah, we were goofing off with her at Deadwood tower when Magic was attacking and we used lanterns and spammed her name across the screen so anyone who made it to the top of the tower couldn't stay connected and would lag out.

twilit 04-27-2014 06:42 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 470363)
admins went ahead and implemented my singles sparring leaderboard and I'm pleased with it thus far, but they still haven't implemented the catch-all fix for almost everything guild-related on Graal

make time-based restrictions and it literally improves things across the board
  • must be in a guild for 24 hours before you're able to enter and stay in a tower on that tag (kills "noob recruiting" and makes towering actually about choosing a quality guild, yet still allows PKers to enter and participate)
  • must be in a guild for 24 hours before you're allowed to GS on that tag (cuts into boosting up points in GS by recruiting people at random to help)
  • must be in a guild for 1 week before you're able to accept a GST invitation for that team (works together with the previous rule and eliminates this whole scramble for a team thing that makes it a "team spar tournament" rather than an actual guild thing)

"OH GOD, YOU MEAN TOWERING IS NO LONGER ABOUT SPAMMING THE RECRUIT BUTTON ON EVERYONE THAT WALKS BY? TERRIBLE IDEA THALLEN"
"WOW I ACTUALLY HAVE TO KIND OF COMMIT MYSELF TO A GUILD ANY LONGER THAN 1 HOUR BEFORE THE GST STARTS? THIS IS TOTAL BULL****"

Wat?...
our train derailed this way ~~~>
<~~~ your train derailed that way


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