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Kyle Del. M. H. 04-15-2014 05:25 AM

Capture the flag should be brought back!
 
We should bring back capture the flag! People were boosting because of capture the flag, but why shut the whole place down when you can just make the player kills not able to go into you're status. Capture the flag was one of the best things ever created! It taught the young infants to show dignity leadership and spirit! Capture the flag is a revolutionary change throughout society and maybe even thru the divine universe! Capture the flag changed lives motivated the poor, and taught that when you're bored of towering,afk,buying hats, and sparring. Capture the flag will solve you're boredom! :love::love::love: let's bring capture the flag! And also probably make it more challenging kindof like sardon spike room, because it's kindof easy to get to the other side. :D

Hadzz 04-15-2014 09:42 AM

im sure everyone wants it back so thats not the problem therfore demanding it wont help its all up to the development team

Craftz 04-15-2014 12:32 PM

Nobody ever played it unless an admin announced they were going to play. But the first week it came out was great.

Sicx 04-15-2014 01:50 PM

it should be an event game.

Kyle Del. M. H. 04-15-2014 02:48 PM

Maybe they should make it more complex and make it look noticeable. Maybe make it interesting where you could win prizes kindof like a hierarchy. Win 20 times you get a hat win 40 times you get an emote, when 80 times you get a mount, win 100 times you get this rare prize.

David M. 04-15-2014 04:26 PM

It was awesome the first couple of weeks it was released, everyone was there playing it. Then nobody ever played anymore, but I agree instead of deleting it they could've had improved it by making rewards or so.

GOAT 04-15-2014 08:17 PM

I would like to start by apologizing for being one of the factors that closed down the CTF :'(

A while back I was doing CTF, it was like 10 noobs vs 9 noobs and me, I was defending and we were at 0-0 for about 15 minutes. I decided to go to the red teams base and sword spam their entrance to kill them at .5. They got butt hurt I raiped them so they reported me for boosting(which I was not doing, it was a strategy to win) and then they started doing the same thing. When I logged back in I was surprised that I was banned. I deleted my app and re-installed it to bypass the ban. I sent a feedback raging about the dumb ass that banned me unjustly and I finished the feedback with "Its not my fault classic staff is to lazy or incompetent to find a solution" about a month later they closed it down and heres the reason why

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Posted by Dusty (Post 443678)
Dude we don't even have CTF right now, do you really think the lazy staff are going to make something like that?

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Posted by Darklink (Post 443813)
Not trying to change the subject too much, but what was it necessary to remove CTF? Why couldn't it be changed like houses were changed, just remove the ability to receive more kills. I really liked that game

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Posted by Dusty (Post 443817)
Because a glitch with the way client handles deaths made it impossible to do anything like that. The way people were boosting were bypassing any sort of scripting logic. I wouldn't have removed it if were was a way to easily fix it.

you decide if theyre lazy, incompetent, or dont see it as an important issue to address

Kyle Del. M. H. 04-15-2014 10:35 PM

Exactly ! They should fix the fact you could kill people in your status, and like i said they should have a hiarchy of awards

Swegg 04-16-2014 10:30 PM

I dunno bout you guys, but I play "Capture The Bush".
I get 2 teams of ppl. Both teams near a bush field.
Get the other team's bush to your side, without dropping it or dying.
And yes, you're able to sneak around in it.
So, when you see a blonde clown running around with a bush, it's me.

Forydj 04-16-2014 11:15 PM

I dunno. I didn't like it I was pretty bad at it...

ufoburan 04-17-2014 10:16 AM

Imo Dusty tries to do what he can,and has tried to fix CTF,but has been unsuccessful. I'm not saying there aren't crap admins that are to lazy,incompetent,biased,and immature to appropriately handle the job of being a member of the Classic staff.

I do think there are good members of staff to that give what time they do have,and put a good amount of effort to produce stuff for the largely unappreciative players of Classic. Like Dusty for instance I believe with out guys like him or even Rufus Classic would be dead in the water.

I never played CTF much as I usually spent my time towering, however I did have friends that regularly played CTF and I was starting to play it from time to time before it closed. The only problem I had with it was it seemed like the teams where almost always unbalanced or uneven,and I was hoping they would make a que system to help with that.

I still think it will be back in the some what near future or we will at least get some other type of multi-person mini game to play in its place.

Dusty 04-17-2014 06:12 PM

I could fix CTF, but it would require a complete rehaul and creating its own health system. There is no way to work around the issue that was allowing the boosting, and you're not suppose to get kills from CTF... that was kind of the issue.

It can be fixed, and maybe it will... but there are other things on the table right now. CTF wasn't popular enough to justify the time it would take.

Hadzz 04-17-2014 06:29 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 468519)
I could fix CTF, but it would require a complete rehaul and creating its own health system. There is no way to work around the issue that was allowing the boosting, and you're not suppose to get kills from CTF... that was kind of the issue.

It can be fixed, and maybe it will... but there are other things on the table right now. CTF wasn't popular enough to justify the time it would take.

If we show how important ctf is will you prioritise it?

Dusty 04-17-2014 06:50 PM

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Posted by Hadzz (Post 468523)
If we show how important ctf is will you prioritise it?

No because the numbers before it was closed showed how important it is. Now people just want to play it because they can't anymore.

Kyle Del. M. H. 04-17-2014 08:25 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 468527)
No because the numbers before it was closed showed how important it is. Now people just want to play it because they can't anymore.

Why can't you just implement the same way houses are when you die in houses

GOAT 04-17-2014 08:38 PM

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Posted by Kyle Del. M. H. (Post 468552)
Why can't you just implement the same way houses are when you die in houses

LOL NUB :D

I bet that if you read your own thread you will find the answer to your question

Kyle Del. M. H. 04-17-2014 10:48 PM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 468558)
LOL NUB :D

I bet that if you read your own thread you will find the answer to your question

:'( no wonder nobody likes you're posts :P

GOAT 04-18-2014 06:27 AM

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Posted by Kyle Del. M. H. (Post 468573)
:'( no wonder nobody likes you're posts :P

people dislike my posts because I answer their questions? thats a weird reason to dislike my posts :(:'(:angry:

ufoburan 04-18-2014 10:07 AM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 468649)
people dislike my posts because I answer their questions? thats a weird reason to dislike my posts :(:'(:angry:

^I like your posts. They are witty and insight full. and usually hilarious.

OT: If your trying to simulate CTF in your house. I would actually recommend using two different color or styles soccer balls and having to move them from one side to the other in to an area marked off with fences and some other type of furniture. It would be nice if there was some kind of smallish furniture you could pick up and run around with and not have it shatter or de-spawn when you throw it.

Hadzz 04-18-2014 11:08 AM

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Posted by ufoburan (Post 468675)
^I like your posts. They are witty and insight full. and usually hilarious.

OT: If your trying to simulate CTF in your house. I would actually recommend using two different color or styles soccer balls and having to move them from one side to the other in to an area marked off with fences and some other type of furniture. It would be nice if there was some kind of smallish furniture you could pick up and run around with and not have it shatter or de-spawn when you throw it.

You can use push and pull items aswell

Kendama 04-18-2014 09:44 PM

All we need is a gralat/stat/point incentive. Thats all it needs for it to be popular

ufoburan 04-19-2014 10:52 AM

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Posted by Hadzz (Post 468681)
You can use push and pull items aswell

I didn't use push/pull items because it seems to be fairly slow to move them. That's why I say we need something we can pick up and move with more freely.
I just don't think a CTF type thing works well if your goal is to pull something from one side of the screen to the other before someone else.

Gasilly 04-21-2014 02:32 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 468527)
No because the numbers before it was closed showed how important it is. Now people just want to play it because they can't anymore.

graals new content has always tended to do this, players play the content get bored of it and the numbers slouch off. The issue is CTF tends to be rather bland when everyone drops it, i think converting it into an event would fix the numbers problem and renew it with new life.

iTaco720 04-22-2014 08:56 PM

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Posted by Kendama (Post 468813)
All we need is a gralat/stat/point incentive. Thats all it needs for it to be popular

IIRC, there already was a gralat prize, like 30 gralats for winning.

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Posted by Dusty (Post 410921)
However Railroads are entering the last legs of development so I haven't the time to look at CTF. If I get some free time though maybe I'll check alternative safe fixes.

Dusty, if you do re-implement CTF, it might help to add maps or something to make more people play. Maybe a "special event" that happens every week or a leader board can keep people playing it.

Kendama 04-22-2014 10:02 PM

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Posted by iTaco720 (Post 469656)
IIRC, there already was a gralat prize, like 30 gralats for winning.



Dusty, if you do re-implement CTF, it might help to add maps or something to make more people play. Maybe a "special event" that happens every week or a leader board can keep people playing it.

Yeah but like somthing more incentive.... You'd make more farming and a lot more doing pyrat.

Hadzz 04-23-2014 07:44 PM

I always wanted a guild tourn of ctf maybe that could be an incentive to revive it i used toonly play for ctf

Kyle Del. M. H. 04-23-2014 07:50 PM

If their is gonna be a tournament based off ctf maybe the ctf place itself should be a practice arena. People will go to it since the fact if they become good at ctf they could win the tournament which causes a cycle.

ufoburan 04-24-2014 10:13 AM

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Posted by iTaco720 (Post 469656)
Dusty, if you do re-implement CTF, it might help to add maps or something to make more people play. Maybe a "special event" that happens every week or a leader board can keep people playing it.

I agree that it would certainly help if there where different maps or areas to choose from to play in. I also think they need to change the rewards system as well. What where we getting before 10-20 gralats if you where on the winning team? Thats kind of a crappy incentive. Who would want to play a mini game for so little? I'm not saying they would have to give out big gobs of gralats to winners. Just higher than that say 50-100 gralats to each member of the winning team. I think they could give out gralats for certain accomplishments during matches as well. For example: An extra 20 gralats for successfully capturing an oppentents flag,and returning it to your base. An extra 5 for pking an opposing player that captured your flag.

Kyle Del. M. H. 04-24-2014 08:55 PM

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Posted by ufoburan (Post 469975)
I agree that it would certainly help if there where different maps or areas to choose from to play in. I also think they need to change the rewards system as well. What where we getting before 10-20 gralats if you where on the winning team? Thats kind of a crappy incentive. Who would want to play a mini game for so little? I'm not saying they would have to give out big gobs of gralats to winners. Just higher than that say 50-100 gralats to each member of the winning team. I think they could give out gralats for certain accomplishments during matches as well. For example: An extra 20 gralats for successfully capturing an oppentents flag,and returning it to your base. An extra 5 for pking an opposing player that captured your flag.

Actually maybe if you win continuously the more gralats you will obtain but if you lose it's back to 50 :P

ufoburan 04-25-2014 09:49 AM

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Posted by Kyle Del. M. H. (Post 470048)
Actually maybe if you win continuously the more gralats you will obtain but if you lose it's back to 50 :P

^I'm okay with your suggested scenario as well. I was thinking of it to. I think it would be more viable to do with a mini game set up like CTF that is centered around multi-person play. Where you could cheat a system set up like sparring that can and is easily manipulated beings that it is centered around One V One matches.

Hadzz 04-25-2014 11:45 AM

I dont get why you need to change this or not have it at all archery i never see anyone play but thats allowed to stay?

Rufus 04-25-2014 12:10 PM

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Posted by Hadzz (Post 470177)
I dont get why you need to change this or not have it at all archery i never see anyone play but thats allowed to stay?

Nobody is boosting huge amount of kills in archery as far as I know.

Hadzz 04-26-2014 09:12 AM

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Posted by Rufus (Post 470183)
Nobody is boosting huge amount of kills in archery as far as I know.

Still if archery was broken you would fix that wouldnt you (e.g the scores were broken)

MelodybooGraal 05-03-2014 02:24 AM

Capture the flag was so much fun :) I remember going with my guild and doing it all together BRING IT BACK!

CM 05-03-2014 07:02 PM

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Posted by Rufus (Post 470183)
Nobody is boosting huge amount of kills in archery as far as I know.

lol then just make it so any kills you make in there don't actually add to your amount of kills, like how it is with house/gh.

One thing I never understood is why they moved it to the edge of Mod Town, why not place it in Graal City, the most populated area in Graal? I honestly liked it but I do agree that people were boosting a large amount of kills. I do remember one incident where someone got banned for boosting in there.

GOAT 05-03-2014 08:17 PM

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Posted by CM CM (Post 471777)
lol then just make it so any kills you make in there don't actually add to your amount of kills, like how it is with house/gh.

I honestly liked it but I do agree that people were boosting a large amount of kills. I do remember one incident where someone got banned for boosting in there.

http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...14&postcount=7

CM 05-03-2014 11:40 PM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 471789)

well that stinks ): I really liked CTF.

Kyle Del. M. H. 05-05-2014 02:10 AM

We have lazy staff :( why didn't classic just hire professionals using the money they got from gralat packs?

Distorted 05-05-2014 02:31 AM

I agree, it used to be incredible, but then someone found a way to ruin it, just like with eighty-nine percent of everything on this server, I feel like if the staff team brought it back with more features and advertised it, it would be played a lot more.

I agree, it used to be incredible, but then someone found a way to ruin it, just like with eighty-nine percent of everything on this server, I feel like if the staff team brought it back with more features and advertised it, it would be played a lot more.

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Posted by Kyle Del. M. H. (Post 471989)
We have lazy staff :( why didn't classic just hire professionals using the money they got from gralat packs?

they probably make over 10,000 dollars a day :rolleyes:lmfao.

Kyle Del. M. H. 05-05-2014 04:51 AM

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Posted by Distorted (Post 471991)
I agree, it used to be incredible, but then someone found a way to ruin it, just like with eighty-nine percent of everything on this server, I feel like if the staff team brought it back with more features and advertised it, it would be played a lot more.

I agree, it used to be incredible, but then someone found a way to ruin it, just like with eighty-nine percent of everything on this server, I feel like if the staff team brought it back with more features and advertised it, it would be played a lot more.



they probably make over 10,000 dollars a day :rolleyes:lmfao.

If they did we would have a staff that aren't teenagers.

GOAT 05-05-2014 07:43 AM

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Posted by Distorted (Post 471991)
I agree, it used to be incredible, but then someone found a way to ruin it, just like with eighty-nine percent of everything on this server, I feel like if the staff team brought it back with more features and advertised it, it would be played a lot more.

i would say the ones that ruin things are the sensitive players that complain about what other players do. I dont know if you remember when farming in balamb was huge. You could farm 5k plus a day even with noobs stealing but people kept complaining anyways because the greedy bastards wanted all the gralats for themselves. All they did was make xor trash the spawn rate and destroy the grass area.

Distorted 05-05-2014 04:25 PM

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Posted by Kyle Del. M. H. (Post 472023)
If they did we would have a staff that aren't teenagers.

No they have staff that are teenagers because they're greedy, and cash in lmaohttp://coloradopeakpolitics.com/wp-c...8/Money-II.jpg

Rufus you should play classic still.

Hadzz 05-05-2014 04:37 PM

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Posted by Distorted (Post 472126)
No they have staff that are teenagers because they're greedy, and cash in lmaohttp://coloradopeakpolitics.com/wp-c...8/Money-II.jpg

Rufus you should play classic still.

No they have staff which are players because its a player run game and if stefan funded one servers staff then he would have to fund all others

Kyle Del. M. H. 05-06-2014 04:38 AM

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Posted by Distorted (Post 472126)

Rufus you should play classic still.

If rufus still played, he would put like something cool in his house people would go after, other admins don't care for out happiness :(. Rufus is #1 admin, but this is off topic. I say we start a riot everyday outside ctf and get those happy sad faced signs and put one letter on it that spells out dusty bring back ctf and then we start endless feedbacking to bring back ctf!

ufoburan 05-10-2014 08:13 AM

Maybe it could be changed to be more guild oriented. Like how spar has different rooms. One for guild teams, one for random teams of thrown together ppl,one for tourny ctf (as in winning team can choose to continue on or quit just like the spar rooms) maybe for that the can double the winnings for every consecutive round won. But if they loose they only get half the winnings
So lets say the prize is 100 gralats per win then a team wins 3x in a row which would be 400 then loose the next match they would get 200.

I figure more rooms/options and there would be more intrest. Like i said maybe set it up more like guikd spar so there could be set teams with leader boards competition would bring more interest as well.

Hadzz 05-10-2014 08:35 AM

This is just a conspiracy of mine but queen of <3s recently made a thread on here of her graphics one of her pieces showed a team red banner maybe admins have something more planned and that is why we are being kept in the dark?


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