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Forydj 04-16-2014 03:15 PM

Sending Pictures.
 
What do you think about people asking for Kik and snapchat too send explicit pictures? Post your opinion here. Personally I think it's wrong.

Sicx 04-16-2014 04:09 PM

No crap.
Technically illegal for underage, and should not be done at all.

and you used the wrong too.

Forydj 04-16-2014 04:10 PM

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Posted by Sicx (Post 468188)
No crap.
Technically illegal for underage, and should not be done at all.

and you used the wrong too.


I realise that I used the wrong to.

Xenthic 04-16-2014 05:05 PM

People that pressure people into sending nude pictures or what ever is wrong.

Yeah there's plenty of desperate and sad lonely individuals that are that desperate to ask for nudes on an online game like Graal.

Blueh 04-16-2014 08:31 PM

I don't understand why people do this. If you're going to do anything porn related, as despicable and immoral I think that is, don't do it through Graal. Get your perverted fix somewhere else. It isn't that hard to come across a website that would meet your nasty standards when it comes to this...slice of pie... Most of the people on this game are probably undeveloped too. We're talking a majority of people around 13-14, perhaps? Some may not have even hit puberty yet. Do you really want to see nudes of that? If the answer is still yes, you need help because that's very unnatural in human behavior, even with your raging hormones. That's just plain wrong.

comics 04-16-2014 08:33 PM

Very good insight. +rep.

Forydj 04-16-2014 11:10 PM

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Posted by Blueh (Post 468232)
I don't understand why people do this. If you're going to do anything porn related, as despicable and immoral I think that is, don't do it through Graal. Get your perverted fix somewhere else. It isn't that hard to come across a website that would meet your nasty standards when it comes to this...slice of pie... Most of the people on this game are probably undeveloped too. We're talking a majority of people around 13-14, perhaps? Some may not have even hit puberty yet. Do you really want to see nudes of that? If the answer is still yes, you need help because that's very unnatural in human behavior, even with your raging hormones. That's just plain wrong.


True

MrSimons 04-17-2014 05:37 AM

One time when I was roleplaying as a girl, I was messaged asking for my kik. I said I didnt have one and they called me a stupid ***** :(

Smoke 04-17-2014 05:43 AM

A lot of the graal community are too afraid to even show their face.

Sariss 04-17-2014 05:44 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 468370)
One time when I was roleplaying as a girl, I was messaged asking for my kik. I said I didnt have one and they called me a stupid ***** :(

That's what you get for role-playing as a girl.

Kyle Del. M. H. 04-17-2014 06:10 AM

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Posted by Blueh (Post 468232)
I don't understand why people do this. If you're going to do anything porn related, as despicable and immoral I think that is, don't do it through Graal. Get your perverted fix somewhere else. It isn't that hard to come across a website that would meet your nasty standards when it comes to this...slice of pie... Most of the people on this game are probably undeveloped too. We're talking a majority of people around 13-14, perhaps? Some may not have even hit puberty yet. Do you really want to see nudes of that? If the answer is still yes, you need help because that's very unnatural in human behavior, even with your raging hormones. That's just plain wrong.

I say we make blueh an admin and follow bluehism and every week there is blueh day were blueh gives free hats and gralats from his love and appreciation

Thallen 04-17-2014 06:28 AM

ROFL @ this thread
I actually have to conceal my Kik username so that I don't get sent heaps of nude photographs from Graal girls foaming at the mouth over my spar stats, anyone else have this problem?

Sariss 04-17-2014 06:33 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 468394)
ROFL @ this thread
I actually have to conceal my Kik username so that I don't get sent heaps of nude photographs from Graal girls foaming at the mouth over my spar stats, anyone else have this problem?

You're a lonely person, aren't you?

ufoburan 04-17-2014 10:01 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 468394)
ROFL @ this thread
I actually have to conceal my Kik username so that I don't get sent heaps of nude photographs from Graal girls foaming at the mouth over my spar stats, anyone else have this problem?

wouldn't that make you a cougar?

Admiral 04-17-2014 10:05 AM

The amount of rep that needs to be spread in this thread is too much

Mizochi 04-17-2014 01:15 PM

"Do you have kik", "How old are you", "-insert sexual statement here-"
People shouldn't be able to ask this stuff so freely

Midori 04-17-2014 02:47 PM

This is a problem that has persisted for as long as GraalOnline has existed on mobile platforms, and does not appear to be going away any time soon.

A while ago I ran a few investigations into users who ask for Kik for "chat" and there were some interesting results. Between 2011 to 2013, there was a decreasing trendline in male users asking girls for Kik explicitly requesting indecent images, however there was also a similar increase in apparent lesbian users asking girls for Kik to "chat" or "have fun" and "make friends". The number increase in the latter was roughly equal to the decrease of the former.

Using a spare account, I left the character idle in Graal City and received a dozen or so such invitations. Once a Kik username was exchanged, they wasted no time in making demands for nude photographs. Their intended targets are usually underaged teenagers and they appear to know that their actions are against the law.

Through making some small talk and attempting to divert the conversation topic, I was able to trace the personal details of the majority of such users down to their real names and locations. Unsurprisingly, 100% of the "lesbian" Kik users were males in disguise. When presented with this evidence and told that their actions were illegal, most of them used the excuse "I'm below the age of 18 so these laws don't apply to me, I'm not doing anything wrong" (most of them were below 18, a few were above), which is actually untrue, since they were still committing an offence. What was shocking was how some of them are already in relationships (through some background research, about half of them are) and yet they do this behind their girlfriends' backs, as well as their blatant disregard for the law and morality in general. Additionally there was evidence to suggest some of these users were collecting underaged nude images and then sharing them online, an act of child pornography.

If I kept an archive of all of these sex offenders' details and submitted them to law enforcement organisations, there would be enough evidence to successfully prosecute several dozens of them and keep them away from vulnerable children in the future.

Forydj 04-17-2014 03:24 PM

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Posted by Midori (Post 468470)
This is a problem that has persisted for as long as GraalOnline has existed on mobile platforms, and does not appear to be going away any time soon.

A while ago I ran a few investigations into users who ask for Kik for "chat" and there were some interesting results. Between 2011 to 2013, there was a decreasing trendline in male users asking girls for Kik explicitly requesting indecent images, however there was also a similar increase in apparent lesbian users asking girls for Kik to "chat" or "have fun" and "make friends". The number increase in the latter was roughly equal to the decrease of the former.

Using a spare account, I left the character idle in Graal City and received a dozen or so such invitations. Once a Kik username was exchanged, they wasted no time in making demands for nude photographs. Their intended targets are usually underaged teenagers and they appear to know that their actions are against the law.

Through making some small talk and attempting to divert the conversation topic, I was able to trace the personal details of the majority of such users down to their real names and locations. Unsurprisingly, 100% of the "lesbian" Kik users were males in disguise. When presented with this evidence and told that their actions were illegal, most of them used the excuse "I'm below the age of 18 so these laws don't apply to me, I'm not doing anything wrong" (most of them were below 18, a few were above), which is actually untrue, since they were still committing an offence. What was shocking was how some of them are already in relationships (through some background research, about half of them are) and yet they do this behind their girlfriends' backs, as well as their blatant disregard for the law and morality in general. Additionally there was evidence to suggest some of these users were collecting underaged nude images and then sharing them online, an act of child pornography.

If I kept an archive of all of these sex offenders' details and submitted them to law enforcement organisations, there would be enough evidence to successfully prosecute several dozens of them and keep them away from vulnerable children in the future.


Great reply :D

Blueh 04-17-2014 11:04 PM

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Posted by Midori (Post 468470)
This is a problem that has persisted for as long as GraalOnline has existed on mobile platforms, and does not appear to be going away any time soon.

A while ago I ran a few investigations into users who ask for Kik for "chat" and there were some interesting results. Between 2011 to 2013, there was a decreasing trendline in male users asking girls for Kik explicitly requesting indecent images, however there was also a similar increase in apparent lesbian users asking girls for Kik to "chat" or "have fun" and "make friends". The number increase in the latter was roughly equal to the decrease of the former.

Using a spare account, I left the character idle in Graal City and received a dozen or so such invitations. Once a Kik username was exchanged, they wasted no time in making demands for nude photographs. Their intended targets are usually underaged teenagers and they appear to know that their actions are against the law.

Through making some small talk and attempting to divert the conversation topic, I was able to trace the personal details of the majority of such users down to their real names and locations. Unsurprisingly, 100% of the "lesbian" Kik users were males in disguise. When presented with this evidence and told that their actions were illegal, most of them used the excuse "I'm below the age of 18 so these laws don't apply to me, I'm not doing anything wrong" (most of them were below 18, a few were above), which is actually untrue, since they were still committing an offence. What was shocking was how some of them are already in relationships (through some background research, about half of them are) and yet they do this behind their girlfriends' backs, as well as their blatant disregard for the law and morality in general. Additionally there was evidence to suggest some of these users were collecting underaged nude images and then sharing them online, an act of child pornography.

If I kept an archive of all of these sex offenders' details and submitted them to law enforcement organisations, there would be enough evidence to successfully prosecute several dozens of them and keep them away from vulnerable children in the future.

Can you pls be president?

On topic, I don't think Kik itself is a 'bad' thing. I use Kik a lot to chat with friends when I'm not on Graal or taking a break just so I stay in touch. The way it's used is what makes it portrayed as this awful thing. FFM ran into this same problem a few years ago I believe. Before Kik, we had FFM. Same thing happened. The scary thing, from what I heard, was they had this sort of underground porn trade industry. On Graal. Isn't that absurd? I never knew about this until FFM was off the AppStore from an old friend of mine who used to work on the staff team, and he was helping an officer or someone file charges on everyone. I never really found out what happened, nor do I know if such a thing still exists today. But you never know. You just gotta be aware of these things. It'd be nice to have someone pick of the torch again and help stop the spread of child pornography.

GOAT 04-18-2014 06:57 AM

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Posted by Forydj (Post 468170)
What do you think about people asking for Kik and snapchat too send explicit pictures? Post your opinion here. Personally I think it's wrong.

depends I guess. If a 10-12 year old does it is not as bad as a 18+ guy but thats just me. Not saying its ok for the 10 year old but im not going to look at him like some sicko. Graal used to have a bigger problem when people were able to put nude images on their furniture, they would show that in the actual server.

Blueh 04-18-2014 12:02 PM

I remember before guild picture reviews people would put a naked photo of someone from Graal as their guild logo then take a tower with it o-o.

Eugeen 04-18-2014 12:09 PM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 468653)
depends I guess. If a 10-12 year old does it is not as bad as a 18+ guy but thats just me. Not saying its ok for the 10 year old but im not going to look at him like some sicko. Graal used to have a bigger problem when people were able to put nude images on their furniture, they would show that in the actual server.

I remember a friend saying he had something funny to show and his house was pretty much filled with porn /).-

Ah the "good" old days...

Forydj 04-18-2014 12:09 PM

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Posted by iBubble (Post 468685)
I remember a friend saying he had something funny to show and his house was pretty much filled with porn /).-

Ah the "good" old days...


Lol

HON3Y BADG3R 04-18-2014 07:01 PM

I believe it should be taken seriously. We should have people banning these people if they are 100% sure. It wiuld be a hastle though.

Luckily, this problem isnt as bad as 2010-2012. I remember the "peek rooms" for 20 bombs. It was everywhere. On furniture, on guilds, in statuses! It was a giant 18+ black market in a 8+ game! It has gotten so much better and i am happy for that.

Overall, i believe that it is a bad, but unpunishable crime on graal. Any1 could create a new account. Right now, we just need "scouts" to track down those who are getting the children, and report them. Those who are 18+ Are fine, as long as they are "chatting" with 18+

Midori 04-18-2014 07:25 PM

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Posted by HON3Y BADG3R (Post 468764)
I believe it should be taken seriously. We should have people banning these people if they are 100% sure. It wiuld be a hastle though.

Luckily, this problem isnt as bad as 2010-2012. I remember the "peek rooms" for 20 bombs. It was everywhere. On furniture, on guilds, in statuses! It was a giant 18+ black market in a 8+ game! It has gotten so much better and i am happy for that.

Overall, i believe that it is a bad, but unpunishable crime on graal. Any1 could create a new account. Right now, we just need "scouts" to track down those who are getting the children, and report them. Those who are 18+ Are fine, as long as they are "chatting" with 18+

We were working on a system to counteract this problem, but things fell apart a little after the whole staff restructuring...

Sicx 04-18-2014 10:34 PM

back in the ol' rate gp days

Forydj 04-19-2014 04:51 AM

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Posted by Sicx (Post 468831)
back in the ol' rate gp days


I remember them.... Ah memories of men pretending to be girls and having the same picture and arguing it's them. Lol good times

Thallen 04-19-2014 07:47 PM

explicit chat context should be considered in this as well
I can think of two guilds off the top of my head, one active and one inactive, that would practically always have some sort of awkward sexual conversation going on if I ever had the tag on

this kind of discussion shouldn't be limited to male offenders either, because there are long-time female players in this community who are pretty beloved yet abuse their sexuality and constantly say sexual things to players and they get a pass (some of them well over the age of 21), but people seem to sweep it under the rug because they're female instead of male

IMO, the females are an even stranger case because they seem to do it strictly in a manipulative way to get certain things out of the game
I mean, if you're really going to spend 1000 hours towering because a girl showed you a picture and then gave you some SEXY CHAT then you're going to have some serious troubles when girls in the real world come after you

one of my best friends on this game is Sarah because you'd hardly even know she's a female while talking to her and she doesn't make a point of it or try to use her gender as if it's supposed to be some kind of an "advantage" or benefit to her in game, she's chill

I think it's pretty natural for people under the age of 18 to want to talk that way and share pictures due to curiosity
I think it's pretty natural for people over the age of 18 to want to talk that way and share pictures due to maturing and having certain desires
but when one crosses into the other, IDK, weird

I won't even send a picture of my face to people on this game who are under the age of 21 because I know how hateful certain parts of the community are and it'll come back around as some inappropriate rumor, when the reality is that there are people who do certain inappropriate things rather often and they are pretty liked and looked up to within the community

Forydj 04-20-2014 04:01 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 469017)
explicit chat context should be considered in this as well
I can think of two guilds off the top of my head, one active and one inactive, that would practically always have some sort of awkward sexual conversation going on if I ever had the tag on

this kind of discussion shouldn't be limited to male offenders either, because there are long-time female players in this community who are pretty beloved yet abuse their sexuality and constantly say sexual things to players and they get a pass (some of them well over the age of 21), but people seem to sweep it under the rug because they're female instead of male

IMO, the females are an even stranger case because they seem to do it strictly in a manipulative way to get certain things out of the game
I mean, if you're really going to spend 1000 hours towering because a girl showed you a picture and then gave you some SEXY CHAT then you're going to have some serious troubles when girls in the real world come after you

one of my best friends on this game is Sarah because you'd hardly even know she's a female while talking to her and she doesn't make a point of it or try to use her gender as if it's supposed to be some kind of an "advantage" or benefit to her in game, she's chill

I think it's pretty natural for people under the age of 18 to want to talk that way and share pictures due to curiosity
I think it's pretty natural for people over the age of 18 to want to talk that way and share pictures due to maturing and having certain desires
but when one crosses into the other, IDK, weird

I won't even send a picture of my face to people on this game who are under the age of 21 because I know how hateful certain parts of the community are and it'll come back around as some inappropriate rumor, when the reality is that there are people who do certain inappropriate things rather often and they are pretty liked and looked up to within the community


Do you mean the Sarah who says it hurts to breath in her status?

Thallen 04-20-2014 04:07 AM

no but that Sarah should probably seek medical help

Forydj 04-20-2014 04:12 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 469113)
no but that Sarah should probably seek medical help


Heheh

Adzrul 04-20-2014 04:23 AM

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Posted by Blueh (Post 468232)
Get your perverted fix somewhere else.

The-rapist seem a good;)

4-Lom 04-25-2014 09:35 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 469113)
no but that Sarah should probably seek medical help

wow... now I've seen everything...

as to the original post... catch them red handed and send their details to 555-we-tip...

or you know... convince them to trade pics and send em something they don't wanna see...?

Forydj 04-25-2014 12:25 PM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 470163)
wow... now I've seen everything...

as to the original post... catch them red handed and send their details to 555-we-tip...

or you know... convince them to trade pics and send em something they don't wanna see...?


Haha

Torankusu 04-25-2014 12:48 PM

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Posted by Blueh (Post 468232)
I don't understand why people do this. If you're going to do anything porn related, as despicable and immoral I think that is, don't do it through Graal. Get your perverted fix somewhere else. It isn't that hard to come across a website that would meet your nasty standards when it comes to this...slice of pie... Most of the people on this game are probably undeveloped too. We're talking a majority of people around 13-14, perhaps? Some may not have even hit puberty yet. Do you really want to see nudes of that? If the answer is still yes, you need help because that's very unnatural in human behavior, even with your raging hormones. That's just plain wrong.

Society has actually frowned upon pre-*****cent pairing for LESS TIME than it has actually been practiced. (This means it was actually a standard way of life for a longer length of time time than it has not been.)

Not that it's relevant or that I condone it, just saying that your viewpoints might mirror the rest of society's, but that doesn't make it any more factual.

Sicx 04-25-2014 04:14 PM

I'm going to create an app called "Graal 18+", sell it for $0.99, and then become a millionaire.

meganey98 04-25-2014 11:29 PM

Hahaha this thread is really hilarious, do you know that? :D

Forydj 05-26-2014 11:30 PM

It's lonely here now 0.0

Cookie Xanadu 05-27-2014 01:23 AM

Quote:

Posted by Forydj (Post 468170)
What do you think about people asking for Kik and snapchat too send explicit pictures? Post your opinion here. Personally I think it's wrong.


IT'S TO, NOT TOO YOU ****ING PLEB. TOO IS INCLUSION AS IN "I WANT TO GO THERE TOO."

The Doctor 05-27-2014 01:25 AM

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Posted by Forydj (Post 476720)
It's lonely here now 0.0

Haha, nice bump.

I wasn't able to put my opinion here yet, but I suppose now is the correct time to do so. I personally find the pornography exchange disgusting, and even more so that men would disguise as females to get lesbian photographs. In my honest opinion, I believe that if one wants to get in touch with another person via kik on graal, I suppose that's fine. In fact, I use kik on a daily basis to chat with my friends on my phone. But when players, MINOR players, send pictures to each other, that is when things get out of hand. I mean, seriously, get a girlfriend (or a boyfriend).

Cookie Xanadu 05-27-2014 01:32 AM

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Posted by Midori (Post 468470)
This is a problem that has persisted for as long as GraalOnline has existed on mobile platforms, and does not appear to be going away any time soon.

A while ago I ran a few investigations into users who ask for Kik for "chat" and there were some interesting results. Between 2011 to 2013, there was a decreasing trendline in male users asking girls for Kik explicitly requesting indecent images, however there was also a similar increase in apparent lesbian users asking girls for Kik to "chat" or "have fun" and "make friends". The number increase in the latter was roughly equal to the decrease of the former.

Using a spare account, I left the character idle in Graal City and received a dozen or so such invitations. Once a Kik username was exchanged, they wasted no time in making demands for nude photographs. Their intended targets are usually underaged teenagers and they appear to know that their actions are against the law.

Through making some small talk and attempting to divert the conversation topic, I was able to trace the personal details of the majority of such users down to their real names and locations. Unsurprisingly, 100% of the "lesbian" Kik users were males in disguise. When presented with this evidence and told that their actions were illegal, most of them used the excuse "I'm below the age of 18 so these laws don't apply to me, I'm not doing anything wrong" (most of them were below 18, a few were above), which is actually untrue, since they were still committing an offence. What was shocking was how some of them are already in relationships (through some background research, about half of them are) and yet they do this behind their girlfriends' backs, as well as their blatant disregard for the law and morality in general. Additionally there was evidence to suggest some of these users were collecting underaged nude images and then sharing them online, an act of child pornography.

If I kept an archive of all of these sex offenders' details and submitted them to law enforcement organisations, there would be enough evidence to successfully prosecute several dozens of them and keep them away from vulnerable children in the future.

gg no re

PennyShine 05-27-2014 02:37 AM

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Posted by The Doctor (Post 476734)
Haha, nice bump.

I wasn't able to put my opinion here yet, but I suppose now is the correct time to do so. I personally find the pornography exchange disgusting, and even more so that men would disguise as females to get lesbian photographs. In my honest opinion, I believe that if one wants to get in touch with another person via kik on graal, I suppose that's fine. In fact, I use kik on a daily basis to chat with my friends on my phone. But when players, MINOR players, send pictures to each other, that is when things get out of hand. I mean, seriously, get a girlfriend (or a boyfriend).

12 year olds: "But i have a gf on this game already! Thats who i was sendin my pics 2!!!"

Aaron 05-27-2014 06:26 AM

THE ROASTS ARE TOO REAL IN THIS THREAD

Cody 05-28-2014 05:58 AM

Whatever happened to stranger danger?

Aaron 05-28-2014 06:06 AM

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Posted by Cody (Post 476934)
Whatever happened to stranger danger?

It's the Internet. Nothing is private anymore.

TarePanda 05-28-2014 07:00 AM

sum grills are fudging hot.

Cookie Xanadu 05-28-2014 02:03 PM

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Posted by TarePanda (Post 476939)
sum grills are fudging hot.

Some are just cheap and don't know how to be hot for long

Rella 05-29-2014 04:03 AM

Breaks my heart me to think that the tough guy you see always winning spar matches, having more kills than you, reaching 100 AP several times, and being your Graal role-model standing in the middle of Graal City asking for Kik, Skype, Oovoo, and Snapchat from little girls so he can pressure them into doing the unspeakable. It's a sad perverted world, man.


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