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Kuz 05-17-2014 01:45 PM

GST Predictions?
 
I am just curious to see everyone's GST Predictions for both iDevice and Mixed... so yeah just write your predictions for who you think will win or who are the top contenders.

Admiral 05-17-2014 02:21 PM

Anubis huehuehue

GOAT 05-17-2014 05:32 PM

iDevice: I think this is the year iJesus69 finally wins one.


Mixed: I heard that super pro sparer Zeross from PC is coming back to Mother, so I'm guessing it's going to be an easy GST for Mother.



lol

Thallen 05-17-2014 07:46 PM

I predict Alumni, Deity, SLX, and Essence will yet again be the only 4 real guilds in the GST who don't frantically recruit or materialize 1-2 weeks before the tournament, therefore they win by default

David M. 05-17-2014 09:35 PM

^Also apostles

For iDevice I hope a different team stands up this time.

Thallen 05-17-2014 11:12 PM

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Posted by David M. (Post 474767)
apostles

equals
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Posted by Thallen (Post 474750)
frantically recruit or materialize 1-2 weeks before the tournament

if any admins wanna pop in and give a definite date on when the tournament is, that'd be cool

twilit 05-18-2014 03:43 AM

Itd be nice if there were some kind of in-game reminder (besides the "registration is open" news PSA the day before). I mean it doesnt even appear on Graalians calendar here anymore either.
Like have the NPC in Battle Arena say "Congratulations to ' ' and ' ' blablablah... The next GST is scheduled for <date>". and even if it needs to be delayed, then just edit that date.

Thallen 05-18-2014 06:16 AM

iClassic would be hardcore if it sent you an iOS notification when there was a queue event and you could immediately click a button and queue for the event and enter the app

they should look into iOS notifications for news updates though, pretty sure the GST registration opening gets added to the news anyway

HON3Y BADG3R 05-18-2014 07:38 AM

Quote:

Posted by Thallen (Post 474864)
iClassic would be hardcore if it sent you an iOS notification when there was a queue event and you could immediately click a button and queue for the event and enter the app

they should look into iOS notifications for news updates though, pretty sure the GST registration opening gets added to the news anyway

Love this idea. It would cause some real lag spikes though, so it's probably improbable.

ufoburan 05-18-2014 07:49 AM

What a waste of a thread. There is nothing to predict it will be the same teams that always win followed by countless bitching that its rigged. It would be better if more ppl actually gave a crap and like Thallen pointed out didnt just throw teams together frantically. Imo GST will never improve unless the admin staff ever add a league or something that would give ppl a valid reason to be on a spar team all the time and not 1-2 weeks every 4 months.

Kuz 05-18-2014 10:18 AM

I think for iDev vdragz or Alumni. For mixed Apostles or Deity. Mothers team is just rumoured not confirmed. But I think their will be breakout guilds.

Crono 05-18-2014 10:23 AM

I think a team will win and another one will come second.

Kyle Del. M. H. 05-18-2014 10:11 PM

I think girl modeling high will win because their dope bodies and heads make you give mercy and lose.

CrimeWatcher 05-18-2014 11:07 PM

As of now, Mother doesn't even have a Mixed team. So I don't see how we will be having an easy win.

Thallen 05-19-2014 12:26 AM

Quote:

Posted by CrimeWatcher (Post 475038)
As of now, Mother doesn't even have a Mixed team. So I don't see how we will be having an easy win.

Same, my team:
  • David has work until 11
  • Destroyer is going to a big football game
  • Eko is banned for literally the stupidest reason I've ever heard
  • Aarian is banned
  • Nadine is probably going to a friend's party
  • Male is inactive
  • Rygor is in Indiana
  • Ares doesn't care about the GST
  • Tucker will be too high to remember the date

I've never GST'd with a full and active Mixed team though, so it doesn't bother me anymore. As always, the GST is just a for-fun tournament that sees a winner based on who can be online and who is willing to temporarily shuffle into guilds to try and get the win.

I don't think Essence has a full team either. Alumni either skips the Mixed tourney or just yolos it with our active members. Whatever happens, I hope both tournaments are won by a team that didn't desperately come together because they're thirsty for a hat that they think will raise their status in the sparring community. I wouldn't be too bothered to see Deity win.

I think the iDevice tournament has been a lot more competitive and had the better sparrers for a while. I feel like a team that is mostly iDevice could win a combined tournament.

Deophite 05-19-2014 01:53 AM

I'd enter if I didn't have to GS for hours to get into top 32 or whatever. It is hard enough as it is to get members on for GST so getting them on just to spar make it in top 32 is tiring.

Anyways, back to topic.

Idevice: Who knows it is always up in the air

Mixed: Alumni, Deity or Mother

twilit 05-19-2014 02:50 AM

Quote:

Posted by Deophite (Post 475073)
I'd enter if I didn't have to GS for hours to get into top 32 or whatever. It is hard enough as it is to get members on for GST so getting them on just to spar make it in top 32 is tiring.

Anyways, back to topic.

Idevice: Who knows it is always up in the air

Mixed: Alumni, Deity or Mother

There are 64 iDev teams, plus 32 mixed teams. Thats 96 teams participating; Factor in the fact that ~1/3 of guilds on the scoreboard are a) practice guilds or b) noob guilds / guilds not participating; So really, dont worry if you arent on the top 100 board. Id say ~100pts or more below #100 is even ok.

GOAT 05-19-2014 06:48 AM

Quote:

Posted by CrimeWatcher (Post 475038)
As of now, Mother doesn't even have a Mixed team. So I don't see how we will be having an easy win.

i didnt know mother roamed graalians, but theres a lol in my post for a reason. That post was serving another purpose and it wasnt meant to be serious.

Note: The only mix team that I would see having an easy GST would be EP's team of two GST's ago, the ones that got DQ because Neo told on his own brother.

Demrow 05-20-2014 03:49 PM

SLX's year. Apostles and alumni will probably give us our biggest challenge. Hope we get either of them first or second match. Now we need to predict when GST is going to be.. they usually announce it a week prior, no?

bbobb 05-20-2014 04:11 PM

...
 
Ya srsly when's gst??????? Anyway, I do believe slx, deity, and apostles have a very good chance at winning

Crono 05-20-2014 05:19 PM

Quote:

Posted by Thallen (Post 475050)
[*]Tucker will be too high to remember the date

Thaaats Tucker!

Thallen 05-21-2014 02:22 AM

it will probably be on the 31st since it apparently isn't the 24th
GST has always been on a Saturday and registration opens 5-7 days before the tournament, don't see any reason why they'd change it now

Aaron 05-21-2014 02:49 AM

I think SoN will be putting up a good enough fight to take first, but maybe some others with a subpar connection will end up winning, like meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Btw, anyone own Google Fiber yet?

HON3Y BADG3R 05-21-2014 09:01 AM

Nope but that would make a player with decet wifi look laggy

Vladamir Blackthorne 05-21-2014 08:54 PM

Betchya $100 US wins.

Crono 05-21-2014 09:36 PM

Quote:

Posted by Lazerlatte (Post 475693)
Betchya $100 US wins.

We are letting the mortals have this one.

Kuz 05-21-2014 09:43 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 475701)
We are letting the mortals have this one.

I know that I didn't play iClassic back when US was around but I heard that the only reason US was so successful was because they had no real competition. I mean look how intense the GST is now it's between like 8 teams. Personally I don't think if US came back that they would be as "dominant" as they so called were in 2008.

Crono 05-21-2014 09:45 PM

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Posted by Kuz (Post 475703)
I know that I didn't play iClassic back when US was around but I heard that the only reason US was so successful was because they had no real competition. I mean look how intense the GST is now it's between like 8 teams. Personally I don't think if US came back that they would be as "dominant" as they so called were in 2008.

We had people like Ares, Prado, Brett, etc in US so it's not like the PC world stood a chance either.

Real talk tho it's a mix of not many good players back then along with US already having the best out of the pool at the time. There's a lot of solid players now thanks to iClassic's sparring scene.

Deophite 05-21-2014 09:55 PM

Quote:

Posted by Kuz (Post 475703)
I know that I didn't play iClassic back when US was around but I heard that the only reason US was so successful was because they had no real competition. I mean look how intense the GST is now it's between like 8 teams. Personally I don't think if US came back that they would be as "dominant" as they so called were in 2008.

For someone that admits they weren't around, you shouldn't be assuming anything about our sparrers. Bottom line is, 11 championships won what else is there to prove? Could we still field a team and win? Only players that are familiar with our actual roster know that answer to that.

Kyle Del. M. H. 05-21-2014 11:04 PM

Quote:

Posted by Kuz (Post 475703)
I know that I didn't play iClassic back when US was around but I heard that the only reason US was so successful was because they had no real competition. I mean look how intense the GST is now it's between like 8 teams. Personally I don't think if US came back that they would be as "dominant" as they so called were in 2008.

US won a gst in 2013, I don't think they even practiced or anything either. So they could just get their points back and ez everyone and it will get intense when fashion modeling high vs them in the end.

Demrow 05-22-2014 01:09 AM

I wish US would come back.. Guys like Brett and Ares did a goodjob carrying them all those years. I wasn't around for a lot of US's wins but they definitley did outmatch every
team they went up against in the one or two I watched and participated in. It would be a lot more interesting now for sure. Round up the troops Crono..1 more time!

US is pretty lucky a bunch of Elite sparrers on UN got bored and joined (in my opinion what was becoming a dying guild) Ares, Squirt, Brett, Deo, Praydoh (Charlie Cypher), Smoke, myself at one point. They became the flavor of the month but did a good job holding onto most of these guys.

Thallen 05-22-2014 01:29 AM

I'm sure it's partially true that US won a ton of GSTs because they had the best PCs the fastest and because GSTs were hosted monthly
When stronger teams like Mother came around it became harder, but also a lot of US members lost interest in sparring so that was probably the bigger problem
Another issue is the fact that US is not like every other guild that just recruits people on the spot for a chance at competing in the GST

even so, no PC team would ever be able to beat a full US team if everyone got together and cared to win

Prado, Ares, Deo, Highlander?, David, Rufus, Crono, Shannon, Trip, Squirt, myself
Brett is IMO the best sparrer of all-time and he never even played iClassic, so throw him in there as a possibility
with those people, our 2 subs would probably be better than the best 2 on other teams, WTF kind of GST team has to consider subbing David or something

you'd have better luck beating Tortoise's full-on godmode in a Babylon weekly tournament hosted by Sephiroth

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Posted by Demrow (Post 475785)
They became the flavor of the month but did a good job holding onto most of these guys.

uh, no
US was around long before newbies like Charlie even knew how to set his coat color so I can't see how it was ever just a flavor
it was always an extremely relevant and consistent guild, Rufus just took it in a different direction with a different group of players

that group of players stays together because we've known each other forever through sparring and have mutual respect for one another, we play other games, we Skype, etc.

the guild seemed to have of every really good sparrer from the 2004-2007ish sparring era except Halo and Neo
I hate when people dillute or dumb down "PC sparring" or "PC Graal" to this small window of time when UN was the only server because, TBH, that's when sparring was at its worst

US was strong even when Morgoth was the leader and it was probably successful on UN (I'm just guessing because I had quit by that time) because it was passed on to someone that isn't an asshole, doesn't have an overwhelming ego, and is generally good at leading and organizing things

and Brett was never in a single GST, so he didn't carry a damn thing
no one ever carried US, everyone just sparred and cooperated and won

Crono 05-22-2014 09:59 AM

Quote:

Posted by Thallen (Post 475797)
US was strong even when Morgoth was the leader and it was probably successful on UN (I'm just guessing because I had quit by that time) because it was passed on to someone that isn't an asshole, doesn't have an overwhelming ego, and is generally good at leading and organizing things

Ya I joined it back in 07 and it was pretty active, just not spar focused. Even then, we still ranked high on what was left of Classic. US moved on to UN after Classic died. BTK lost interest in Graal at the same time so the new SNC folks were the only real competition on UN. I say competition, but 1v1 I think Rufus had picked up some of the best guys. Funny how a "flavor of the month" guild hung onto its roster for many years.

But ya, don't think most of us have any interest in GST/sparring.

Thallen 05-22-2014 11:04 AM

yeah, older US was strictly Classic and Classic was one of those servers that didn't really have a hardcore sparring community
people hung out at level14.graal rather than a spar arena (UN) or an events house (Babylon), etc.

Classic was more centered around it's close-knit community, PKing, and events, so I guess there was just never a need for US to have some beastly sparring presence, although they did have people like Trip, Deo, Clel (I think?), but my memory is way too clouded about Graal times to remember if they were in US even pre-Rufus
US vs. VV at Babord fort, I'll take that over sitting in TC spar any day

it just makes sense that when Classic was dying and everyone moved to UN that sparrers would be who US should recruit
not like anyone wants to recruit those plebs like Unique, Jigga, and whoever else plays that toilet server anyway

Crono 05-22-2014 11:23 AM

Believe it or not, when they moved the server to Europe I was one of the bic bois thanks to serverside hd.

Deophite 05-22-2014 12:32 PM

Quote:

Posted by Thallen (Post 475797)
you'd have better luck beating Tortoise's full-on godmode in a Babylon weekly tournament hosted by Sephiroth

I loled irl

Thallen 05-22-2014 03:38 PM

just leave the thread now, go practice before you get rekt by these guys again

http://puu.sh/8Wyng.png

Demrow 05-22-2014 03:53 PM

Baited and caught Thallen. Let's compare life stories and see who's doing better..
I'll start. I have a girlfriend. If you can say the same we can also go into college degree, homeownership, and job if you'd like. Since you're a big talker, let's get some personal **** going and I want you to post a pic of your fatass with any friends/girlfriend to show how socially advanced you are.

Quote:

Posted by Thallen (Post 475973)
just leave the thread now, go practice before you get rekt by these guys again

http://puu.sh/8Wyng.png

You participated..what place did you come in?

Crono 05-22-2014 03:58 PM

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Posted by Demrow (Post 475971)
Crono you're irrelevant. And our raging bonners? Hahaha wtf..fkn weirdo. Slx and mhx have been around the same amount of time. Roleplaying?! Dude you play a fkn non human diglett character with a gay little US shield that you probably worked on real hard. You also have art of your weird ass character as your avatar, I'd hold up on the role playing disses.

that's no way to address a god, peasant

in other news: i rustled someone's jimmys

Demrow 05-22-2014 04:43 PM

Quote:

Posted by Crono (Post 475977)
that's no way to address a god, peasant

in other news: i rustled someone's jimmys

More role playing. I think our argument is over.

Zetectic 05-22-2014 11:45 PM

lmao guys plz. graal is all about trolling people. we dont need a college degree history class here.

Fulgore 05-23-2014 12:14 AM

Reeling it back in to the thread topic (or something at least more similar than the entire last page)....Would anyone agree with a new system to better inform the players of the GST date? Through all the rumors and "admins say this, no this guy said that" kind of talk, the truth becomes very muddled. I'd propose some npc message closeby to "Congratulations to _____________ for winning the _______ GST" that informs us of at least a general time period. It becomes hard to find out who is/is not able to be online for it if the date isn't known. At first, the 24th was thought to be the date, then the 31st, now I'm seeing Abel's status where he supposedly talked to an admin who said it's 2-3 weeks from now. It's getting ridiculous tbh.

Demrow 05-23-2014 12:40 AM

Would make it easier on everyone involved definitely. I don't know why GST wasn't on the 24th and then why it wouldn't be on the 31st. If they're delaying a time to finish up hats for the event, I think it would be a good idea to treat GST winners like tower guilds that reach 1k hours and allow a guild to upload a hat, 2nd place gets a pre-made hat by staff.. that way they're not working on 6.

MattKan 05-23-2014 12:42 AM

Some team will win, and then a bunch of idiots will post on the forums about how it was rigged in favor of some team.

Fulgore 05-23-2014 12:44 AM

In the early tournaments, hats that were already made were used, take Memento Mori hat for example. You can also find it on Zeross statue for most spar tokens on UN. They could just do this as well. I know Eko always wanted the hat 69069.gif (and not because of the numbers, he loved wings and these were a set of animated wings, like the US GST hat).

Kyle Del. M. H. 05-23-2014 04:31 AM

Demrow dude, you're making yourself look bad. As of now I think of you as an overachiever. Even when I beat you guys in belle you told me you get More girls woman parts. Thallen plays this game because he enjoys it. You play it like it's life and death.

Demrow 05-23-2014 04:30 PM

Quote:

Posted by Kyle Del. M. H. (Post 476099)
Demrow dude, you're making yourself look bad. As of now I think of you as an overachiever. Even when I beat you guys in belle you told me you get More girls woman parts. Thallen plays this game because he enjoys it. You play it like it's life and death.


Haha you beat me and I said "I get more girl woman parts"? Hahahaha ok, Umm I mean that sounds EXACTLY like something I would say but I don't remember you or saying that, but I'll take your word my man. You sound very young so what I allegedly said is probably true. I will give you this though and assume Thallen and you get about the same amount of "woman lady parts". Overachievers is a compliment so thank you.

And thallens life is graal he doesn't just enjoy it he lives it. We have to sometimes snap back to reality because he gets very big headed and fkn annoying getting involved in every thread and argument spewing his useless graal knowledge and history.

Fulgore 05-23-2014 07:36 PM

If this is all that's being talked about make a new thread, this is misleading and annoying. Either discuss something that people want to read or get off of the forum. This goes to anyone who feels the need to puff their chest out through text, I don't care who you are.

Thallen 05-23-2014 08:37 PM

Quote:

Posted by Fulgore (Post 476185)
Either discuss something that people want to read or get off of the forum.

pretty much
the thread went from talking about GST teams to "I have a job and I kissed a girl once and you're fat IRL if you beat me in spars"
hello insecurities

Fulgore 05-23-2014 10:15 PM

Back to the GST predictions, there are several rumors going around about a variety of teams, and the most recent I heard was that Apostles was no longer participating. I don't want to spread rumors that aren't true, so read that as what it is, a RUMOR. If it were true, it opens up a lot of players that can be picked up by other teams, and a solid team is now gone. The field of teams that COULD take the title and the teams that SHOULD take the title are very different. There are sleeper teams like Hazard and Possibilities (there are others, don't get offended if I didn't speak of you it's an example) that have a chance of beating teams like Alumni Deity Essence etc. if they spar with complacency. My semifinal prediction is Alumni Deity Hazard SLX, which could change with brackets of course, but those are 4 teams I feel have that potential.


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