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Kyle Del. M. H. 07-15-2014 07:48 AM

UN for idevice
 
To be honest I think UN is a good server and if it were for IOS it would be a great success. But like UN, delteria is also in the process of going thru idevice and that has been troubling for years. So what are you thoughts about UN for iOS and android.

But I also think UN should mix with graal online classic because it looks like UN inspired classic. this would mix all the quests UN had into classic and other stuff.

Vendetta 07-15-2014 02:34 PM

They're different servers, they may have a similar theme but they both are very different content wise so I don't see them merging.

Unknown 07-15-2014 04:22 PM

The server currently named Delteria took many years because it is 100% different than the original Delteria. It's basically a new server with an old name. Delteria was much like UN and Classic, now it's more like a Zodiac/RPG. UN while being similar in style to Classic is a totally different server. UN always seemed to have more to offer when it came to npcs/events/jobs while classic was big into guilds/socializing/quests/sparring. Also UN always had a intricate economy, seeing as items/hats were traded constantly. It will be interesting to see how it develops though.

Ivy 07-15-2014 04:24 PM

I would love to see it on iOS (Don't really like using my laptop) but, I don't want to start over...

Crono 07-15-2014 06:14 PM

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Posted by Kyle Del. M. H. (Post 490040)
To be honest I think UN is a good server

:rolleyes:

Kyle Del. M. H. 07-15-2014 06:28 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 490137)
:rolleyes:

You know it's true! Don't give me the :rolleyes: face in reality your face is :love::love::love: so true!

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Posted by Shadowfox (Post 490121)
I would love to see it on iOS (Don't really like using my laptop) but, I don't want to start over...

You don't start over, you have the same items just like how classic or other servers use identity so you have your items no matter what.

5hift 07-15-2014 06:29 PM

Asking for a PC server to be converted to an iOS server is basically asking,

"Hey, can you make a new server that looks like this other server but with 98% less content and more hats."

Kyle Del. M. H. 07-15-2014 06:30 PM

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Posted by Vendetta (Post 490101)
They're different servers, they may have a similar theme but they both are very different content wise so I don't see them merging.

That's the point, they have similar stuff, so if they did merge it would bring new content and have some old content with it.

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Posted by 5hift (Post 490144)
Asking for a server to be converted to an iOS server is basically asking,

"Hey, can you make a server that looks like this other server but with 98% less content and more hats."

That doesn't make any sense.

Wolfie 07-15-2014 06:31 PM

I think iUN is gunna be a separate server from UN.

5hift 07-15-2014 06:35 PM

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Posted by Wolfie (Post 490147)
I think iUN is gunna be a separate server from UN.

Ya think?

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Posted by Kyle Del. M. H. (Post 490145)
That doesn't make any sense.

Makes more sense than you think.

Wolfie 07-15-2014 06:35 PM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 490151)
Ya think?

Probably

Thallen 07-15-2014 07:37 PM

There are very few reasons why anyone would think UN is a good server, and they boil down to:
  • They host lots of events
  • They have a trading system
  • They have quests (which is a one-time "fun" of about 6 hours for a brand new player)

That works great on the PC platform, where the max players you'll see are 60, but I can assure you that none of that would translate very well to a mobile platform where you'll see 1000+ (or in iClassic's case, 3500+) players:
  • The events would not be able to be hosted as frequently (or in some cases, at all)
  • The trading system would be hacked, exploited, and abused in one way or another
  • I personally don't think fullheart quests would be a benefit to the mobile platform, where it would do nothing but disadvantage and hurt new players

So, what happens when you take away frequent events, an expanded economy, and lots of quests? Well, then you get iClassic.

kenthefruit 07-15-2014 10:33 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 490176)
There are very few reasons why anyone would think UN is a good server, and they boil down to:
  • They host lots of events
  • They have a trading system
  • They have quests (which is a one-time "fun" of about 6 hours for a brand new player)

That works great on the PC platform, where the max players you'll see are 60, but I can assure you that none of that would translate very well to a mobile platform where you'll see 1000+ (or in iClassic's case, 3500+) players:
  • The events would not be able to be hosted as frequently (or in some cases, at all)
  • The trading system would be hacked, exploited, and abused in one way or another
  • I personally don't think fullheart quests would be a benefit to the mobile platform, where it would do nothing but disadvantage and hurt new players

So, what happens when you take away frequent events, an expanded economy, and lots of quests? Well, then you get iClassic.

They have an events team, don't they?

Yes it probably will be hacked like the most recent duplication glitch on iZone, but it'd be fixed.

They are a disadvantage either way, whether it's on mobile or pc. But that's the player's choice whether or not to do certain things without the full amount of hearts.

Unknown 07-15-2014 11:44 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 490176)
There are very few reasons why anyone would think UN is a good server, and they boil down to:
  • They host lots of events
  • They have a trading system
  • They have quests (which is a one-time "fun" of about 6 hours for a brand new player)

That works great on the PC platform, where the max players you'll see are 60, but I can assure you that none of that would translate very well to a mobile platform where you'll see 1000+ (or in iClassic's case, 3500+) players:
  • The events would not be able to be hosted as frequently (or in some cases, at all)
  • The trading system would be hacked, exploited, and abused in one way or another
  • I personally don't think fullheart quests would be a benefit to the mobile platform, where it would do nothing but disadvantage and hurt new players

So, what happens when you take away frequent events, an expanded economy, and lots of quests? Well, then you get iClassic.

I don't see why events couldn't be hosted. Just have 2-3 ETs on hosting at the same time where the cap for players is like 50-100 per event. So at one time 150 players or so could be playing events. I'm sure the events will take longer but the prize would be gralats or something good. Team events could be done as well.

As for trading, many MMO's have a trading system, why can't Graal follow suit? Yes the system could be exploited, but I do think Graal has some competent developers who could prevent this. So there could very well be an economy. Of course scamming is around in any game and usually can't be avoided. So it's trade at your own risk.

As for heart quests and disadvantaged players, isn't that what a game is? If a player who just started out was equal to a player playing for years, where would be the challenge? In many games you start out weaker and as you do quests you not only become stronger but familiarize yourself with the game play so you can have a clue.

Just my thoughts.

Kyle Del. M. H. 07-16-2014 03:35 AM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 490151)
Ya think?



Makes more sense than you think.

If hats is all you think is important. Then don't comment on this thread.

5hift 07-16-2014 04:28 AM

Ohohohohohohohohohoho.

Misunderstood, you have.

Vendetta 07-16-2014 08:15 AM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 490144)
"Hey, can you make a new server that looks like this other server but with 98% less content and more hats."

UN are pretty big on hats too.

MrSimons 07-16-2014 08:49 AM

That sounds like a horrible idea, massive empty map where the only thing you can really do for fun is events? No thanks.

GOAT 07-16-2014 08:58 AM

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Posted by Kyle Del. M. H. (Post 490040)
But I also think UN should mix with graal online classic because it looks like UN inspired classic. this would mix all the quests UN had into classic and other stuff.

How?


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Posted by Demrow (Post 489895)
If you plan on focusing on events and social aspects of graal, iUN will be exactly like iclassic. Make a more grown up server based around guilds, I think you'll be more successful.

im not familiar with un but i like demrow's idea

Crono 07-18-2014 01:28 PM

Can't wait to see all the annoying NPCs designed and used solely to piss people off.

Torankusu 07-18-2014 06:32 PM

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Posted by kenovo (Post 490220)
Yes it probably will be hacked like the most recent duplication glitch on iZone, but it'd be fixed.

If you don't understand the implications that occur on something as small as a 60 person player base, or 600 person player base, then I don't expect you to grasp the effects on a 3500+ person player base.

Toxic 07-18-2014 07:35 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 490176)
Well, then you get iClassic.

Exactly, this is why I don't think they should make it.

iHot 07-18-2014 09:07 PM

So UN is Classic with a bit more events and some quests a player can do at the beginning of the game and that is it?

Yeah...no.

GOAT 07-18-2014 09:16 PM

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Posted by iHot (Post 490975)
So UN is Classic with a bit more events and some quests a player can do at the beginning of the game and that is it?

Yeah...no.

Hi you must be new iHot. UN is the birthplace of the most prestigious sparring community in the history of graal.
lol

Sariss 07-18-2014 09:33 PM

Y'all are being so negative :(

fsh 07-19-2014 12:59 AM

UN
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??? 07-19-2014 02:01 AM

Quote:

Posted by iHot (Post 490975)
So UN is Classic with a bit more events and some quests a player can do at the beginning of the game and that is it?

Yeah...no.

Go ahead and play it for a couple hours. If you get someone to do the quests with you'll probably love it.

Fulgore 07-19-2014 07:40 AM

As for events, there were several ideas bounced around on a thread of mine pertaining to UN events on iClassic, and there were several statements detailing why UN events CANNOT have 50-100 people per event. If iUN were to become real, I think there would need to be measures taken that would indeed change it from what UN is now in order to make it playable on an idevice with large amounts of people (i.e significant changes to content).

Ivy 07-19-2014 06:25 PM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 491160)
As for events, there were several ideas bounced around on a thread of mine pertaining to UN events on iClassic, and there were several statements detailing why UN events CANNOT have 50-100 people per event. If iUN were to become real, I think there would need to be measures taken that would indeed change it from what UN is now in order to make it playable on an idevice with large amounts of people (i.e significant changes to content).

I feel like pictionary would be a nightmare with 100 people in it

Vendetta 07-19-2014 09:52 PM

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Posted by Shadowfox (Post 491262)
I feel like pictionary would be a nightmare with 100 people in it

Not all events would work, at least not unless there was a player limit on certain events.

Kyle Del. M. H. 07-22-2014 06:53 AM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 490335)
How?



im not familiar with un but i like demrow's idea

How? Have you ever played UN?

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 490328)
That sounds like a horrible idea, massive empty map where the only thing you can really do for fun is events? No thanks.

They have more spar tournaments(as if graal classic has more than 1 spar tournament.), better events, better quests, better hats, better items to obtain, rings, magic.

GOAT 07-22-2014 07:07 AM

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Posted by Kyle Del. M. H. (Post 492149)
How? Have you ever played UN?

havent really played it, just wondered around the map and checked out the sparring a while back. I dont know what you meant by UN inspired classic.

Cookie Xanadu 07-22-2014 03:46 PM

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Posted by Kyle Del. M. H. (Post 490266)
If hats is all you think is important. Then don't comment on this thread.

He's talking about the fact that people orgasm over hats on damn-near all of the iOS servers. Especially when its to do with guilds.

Read between the lines ya dingus.

Ivy 07-22-2014 05:30 PM

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Posted by Cookie Xanadu (Post 492229)
He's talking about the fact that people orgasm over hats on damn-near all of the iOS servers. Especially when its to do with guilds.

Read between the lines ya dingus.

LOL SO TRUE

CHAMPGRAAL 07-23-2014 10:10 AM

I like UN but I think it's better off a PlayerWorlds server in my opinion.

Hayala11 07-23-2014 05:57 PM

Why?

GOAT 07-23-2014 06:45 PM

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Posted by CHAMPGRAAL (Post 492440)
I like UN but I think it's better off a PlayerWorlds server in my opinion.

everything is better in the ios world.

Colin 07-23-2014 11:09 PM

This thread got me interested in UN, going to start playing the player world shortly.

Update: I played for 15 minutes before and ran around, now I am completely lost and this is hard.

Phantos 07-24-2014 12:07 AM

http://unholynationguide.weebly.com/ and http://www.freewebs.com/graalsplinky/ are great UN guides, I think!

Vladamir Blackthorne 07-24-2014 03:31 AM

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Posted by Phantos (Post 492608)

Both are outdated. But the first one is much less so. I wouldn't go by the quest guides, they're most certainly not up to date.

Also the stupid temple quest is broken. I am working way too hard to get the ability to use gangster hats to shoot a stupid little gun...

Unknown 07-24-2014 04:51 AM

UN isn't a great server for new players. Then again, all the servers on the PC client are bad for new players. That's why UN needs to go onto the iDevice, so it can finally accept new players into the community. However, there are a lot of new players playing right now, which is always nice to see.

iHot 07-24-2014 07:02 AM

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Posted by Unknown (Post 492687)
UN isn't a great server for new players. Then again, all the servers on the PC client are bad for new players. That's why UN needs to go onto the iDevice, so it can finally accept new players into the community. However, there are a lot of new players playing right now, which is always nice to see.


True! Being a noob on Zodiac is so discouraging.

Wolfie 07-24-2014 09:32 AM

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Posted by iHot (Post 492725)
True! Being a noob on Zodiac is so discouraging.

I'm still stuck in the tutorial level on Zodiac :(

And UN is a great server in my opinion. I can't really describe it in words why x.x but the moment I played it, I fell in love with it

Cookie Xanadu 07-24-2014 02:04 PM

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Posted by Wolfie (Post 492746)
I'm still stuck in the tutorial level on Zodiac :(

And UN is a great server in my opinion. I can't really describe it in words why x.x but the moment I played it, I fell in love with it

Zodiac isn't that bad. Just avoid people like Hellsdick and you should be fine.

UN on the other hand is all over the place.

Godoco 07-24-2014 04:51 PM

UN is indeed a classic server. But much preparation would have to be put in for years to make this request possible. Plus UN is sort of a dead server anyways.

GOAT 07-24-2014 07:35 PM

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Posted by Wolfie (Post 492746)
I'm still stuck in the tutorial level on Zodiac :(

lol i cant even play because they want me to identify my account :'(:'(

Vladamir Blackthorne 07-25-2014 01:01 AM

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Posted by Godoco (Post 492791)
UN is indeed a classic server. But much preparation would have to be put in for years to make this request possible. Plus UN is sort of a dead server anyways.

1. iUN is already underway

2. No it's not. It usually has around 50 players, which is fairly good for a PC server.

Cookie Xanadu 07-25-2014 01:30 AM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 492837)
lol i cant even play because they want me to identify my account :'(:'(

What are you talking about? Wut? You can play as a guest. If you want to have a real account then just go to wishlist as a guest and put in an email.

GOAT 07-25-2014 05:24 AM

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Posted by Cookie Xanadu (Post 492940)
What are you talking about? Wut? You can play as a guest. If you want to have a real account then just go to wishlist as a guest and put in an email.

thats what i meant by them wanting my to identify

and

this is under the guest option.
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Cookie Xanadu 07-25-2014 07:01 PM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 493029)
thats what i meant by them wanting my to identify

and

this is under the guest option.
Attachment 15725

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