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Summertime Love 08-09-2014 05:23 AM

Has Era surpassed Classic?
 
Every since the launch of Era, EUROCENTER's second installment of the GraalOnline game series, Era's population per day has been increasing while Classic's been growing as well, but growing at a much slower rate.
My question is: Has Era surpassed Classic by popularity(and quality?)
Edit:I'm not flamebaiting guys ;~; I genuinely love both games equally and keep it cute

iHot 08-09-2014 05:25 AM

Incoming flame wars. Sound the alarms.

LoociGraal 08-09-2014 05:53 AM

Definitely not in quality. Classic still has it's loyal players though. Right now classic has 3370 players on and era has 3170 so it's really not that big of a difference but I will say era has more updates just not the best quality.

rorriM 08-09-2014 05:56 AM

Era has more than that actually. Today I saw our player count hovering around 3.5k

iHot 08-09-2014 06:35 AM

Has Era surpassed Classic?
 
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Posted by rorriM (Post 497136)
Era has more than that actually. Today I saw our player count hovering around 3.5k


Era will eventually consistently have more players than Classic one day. However the two games are very different and just appeal to different people.

MrSimons 08-09-2014 06:41 AM

Era is great, but to be honest Classic is definitely better. I may be a little biased however, since I have put a few 1000 more hours into Classic than I have Era.

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Posted by iHot (Post 497142)
Era will eventually consistently have more players than Classic one day. However the two games are very different and just appeal to different people.

Your signature sucks btw

iHot 08-09-2014 06:42 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 497144)
Era is great, but to be honest Classic is definitely better. I may be a little biased however, since I have put a few 1000 more hours into Classic than I have Era.





Your signature sucks btw


I can't make the tongue move. Whatever it's still sexy and you said it's ok to use it on Era-Go lol. I just removed the sixth bar.

MrSimons 08-09-2014 06:51 AM

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Posted by iHot (Post 497145)
I can't make the tongue move. Whatever it's still sexy and you said it's ok to use it on Era-Go lol. I just removed the sixth bar.

for you.

http://i.imgur.com/3jjwv6I.gif

Dusty 08-09-2014 07:17 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 497147)

Or you can break the image apart and do this:


I can't really edit gifs right now, but all you'd have to do is crop the top of the gif off and you can easily just change the image above it instead of editing the image itself :P

MrSimons 08-09-2014 07:30 AM

Ohhh, I get what you're saying. Doing it the easy way I see >:o

Howl 08-09-2014 09:27 AM

When presents where released in classic, 4100 people where on. However, I check now and again, Era has more players online, but the thing that put me off the most, where the quality of some of the 4th of July hats in Era.

MrSimons 08-09-2014 10:02 AM

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Posted by Howlgraal (Post 497177)
When presents where released in classic, 4100 people where on. However, I check now and again, Era has more players online, but the thing that put me off the most, where the quality of some of the 4th of July hats in Era.

I dont think the quality of a server should be determined upon temporary holiday content. Since the quality of each holiday update varies.

ex. Classic may have some badass Halloween stuff, but their 4th of July stuff sucks, while on Era it could be the other way around.

Whats really important is how well done and thought out actual updates are, which is usually very obvious by stuff like Graphic Quality, how organized the update seems (does it seem like it was just released so the server could have an update, or was there a purpose behind it? Did it tie in with other content being released recently/soon?).

Crono 08-09-2014 01:34 PM

Era is very low quality and has less players.

pat 08-09-2014 02:14 PM

I do agree that Classic iPhone has a very high quality, most likely on graphics, their graphics are really very nice and I admire them. I wish I could do graphics like they do, one day. But I do think Era iPhone has more content than Classic because of the quests and new content; and Classic only releases hats and mounts most of the time, and no new content like quests but the thing I like with Classic is that they respond to posts on their threads and fix bugs faster than Era does. And Classic is only fun if you have active friends to play with, in my opinion.

MisaChan 08-09-2014 03:03 PM

Era and Classic is on the same level or they have a balanced on gameplay.

Xenthic 08-09-2014 03:35 PM

3850 ppl yesterday on classic

iHot 08-09-2014 04:11 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 497147)


Thanks :P

Dino 08-09-2014 04:14 PM

CLASSIC HAS BETTER GRAPHICS
jk dont get butthurt

John 08-09-2014 04:45 PM

ERA HAS GUNS

CM 08-09-2014 04:49 PM

Era has not surpassed Classic in any way. One day Era will have more players online, but the most people I've seen on Era is 3.5k or something, while I've seen Classic at 4.1k and has 3.5k players online on a daily basis. However, Era does continue to pump out summer shops and such and makes more updates, but quality over quantity. I'm not sure how to say this in a nice way, but many of the summer shops just aren't...good, in my opinion. Classic rarely releases anything, but when they do release stuff (other than hats) they are usually really good, such as the Japenese themed Nexus that opened almost a week ago.

MrSimons 08-09-2014 10:45 PM

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Posted by Dino (Post 497212)
CLASSIC HAS BETTER GRAPHICS
jk dont get butthurt

Well it is true... thats just because of the huge graphic overhaul thats been going on recently (maybe not so recent, but stuff like the tileset, balamb island boat etc...)

Sicx 08-09-2014 11:34 PM

Zone will rule all

MrSimons 08-09-2014 11:57 PM

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Posted by Sicx (Post 497295)
Zone will rule all

Preach it brotha

MattKan 08-10-2014 12:05 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 497287)
Well it is true... thats just because of the huge graphic overhaul thats been going on recently (maybe not so recent, but stuff like the tileset, balamb island boat etc...)

Yeah! The only reason Classic has the best graphics is because staff at Classic made the best graphics! The other servers are still better!

Summertime Love 08-10-2014 12:53 AM

Are app store ratings a factor into this as well?
Imo, I think it is...

Dusty 08-10-2014 12:57 AM

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Posted by Summertime Love (Post 497325)
Are app store ratings a factor into this as well?
Imo, I think it is...

They're pretty stupid. When the server was going down a few times last week or so players were flooding the marketplace with 1-star reviews and crap just because they couldn't play... despite the fact that Graal, as far as MMO's go, has pretty decent uptime. Since things are updated live there's no need for weekly maintenance and such.

Kendama 08-10-2014 01:32 AM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 497328)
They're pretty stupid. When the server was going down a few times last week or so players were flooding the marketplace with 1-star reviews and crap just because they couldn't play... despite the fact that Graal, as far as MMO's go, has pretty decent uptime. Since things are updated live there's no need for weekly maintenance and such.

Preach it brotha


Back to the original OP, era takes a considerably higher income (based on that old income thread a couple months ago). While they both average around the same amount online at a time. I would say Classic has better graphics as more renowned graphic artists are pulled in by the theme of the server, however iEra has more PvP interest- for players more into customizing your own way of fighting. While classic combat is focused on sword spamming and evasive maneuvers, iEra uses a large variation of guns, grenades, launchers, melees, and much more. It also has the advantage of a rare/trading system, which gives more incentive to play (trying to collect rare items).

However, all these weapons available in era made it into a cash machine designed to make OP weapons available for incredibly high prices that can only be realistically reached by purchasing gralat packs from the app store with real-world money. While pay to win is fun for those who have paid, many players do not like the idea of a game that gives combat advantages to those who give it more money.

This is a great incentive for people to play Classic, as all the weapons are given upon creating an account (except for special bombs, which are not a big deal) and combat is based on skill. Skill takes its shine inside of the spar arenas, but the tower taking is also more skill oriented- at-least while comparing it to iEra.

All in all, (TLDR) iEra does definitely bring in more bread money for Unixmad, but iClassic has a richer history and is much more appealing to casual, recreational, and community players without creating any pay-to-win situations. It still produces large amounts of cash because players like to buy cool hats all the time. The playercounts are relatively the same, and both lack developers (I would say iEra has the edge slightly, because of iClassics strict invite-only policy, but I am not too sure).

5hift 08-10-2014 01:53 AM

Delteria.

Nuff said.
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rorriM 08-10-2014 03:00 AM

I'm pretty sure era has gotten over 4k. When analyzing a server there are many characteristics that must be addressed. And everyone has bias, including myself.
First of all, it is not fair to take a look at one superior part of a game, and say the whole server is better(for example saying classic is better because of better graphics)
I've played classic a lot longer than era so there will be some bias.
Classic account: 2500 hours non afk. Started a month after release but took a break for a year.
Era account: 800 ios non afk + 200 staff non afk. Played since release, staff for a lil over 2 months.

Alright so here's my OPINION. Not facts.

Classic:
Pros...
-better graphics by far
-skill orientated
-good updates
-better community

Cons...
-Updates take forever
-non responsive staff(flame me idc it's true)
-repetative gameplay
-repetative items(almost always hats or morphs -.-)
-basically a large chat room with a customizable character(people don't play classic for its gameplay sorry)

Era:
Pros...
-high player count
-excellent gameplay(doesn't get boring)
-massive weapon choice
-frequent updates
-trade system/rares(adds new dimension/appeal to gameplay)
-responsive staff(I understand this is probably my most biased point, but I've seen our pr team actively moniter and manage reports)
-vast choice of fighting styles, you can make your own using different weapon combinations and strategies/techniques

Cons...
-high player count
-The community can be a bit rude
-pay to win
-lower quality updates, however I still think some are just as good

Just my opinion : j
It was probably a bad idea because people will flame me but whatever, I just wanted to give the most complete response I could.

MrSimons 08-10-2014 03:11 AM

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Posted by rorriM (Post 497363)
I'm pretty sure era has gotten over 4k. When analyzing a server there are many characteristics that must be addressed. And everyone has bias, including myself.
First of all, it is not fair to take a look at one superior part of a game, and say the whole server is better(for example saying classic is better because of better graphics)
I've played classic a lot longer than era so there will be some bias.
Classic account: 2500 hours non afk. Started a month after release but took a break for a year.
Era account: 800 ios non afk + 200 staff non afk. Played since release, staff for a lil over 2 months.

Alright so here's my OPINION. Not facts.

Classic:
Pros...
-better graphics by far
-skill orientated
-good updates
-better community

Cons...
-Updates take forever
-non responsive staff(flame me idc it's true)
-repetative gameplay
-repetative items(almost always hats or morphs -.-)
-basically a large chat room with a customizable character(people don't play classic for its gameplay sorry)

Era:
Pros...
-high player count
-excellent gameplay(doesn't get boring)
-massive weapon choice
-frequent updates
-trade system/rares(adds new dimension/appeal to gameplay)
-responsive staff(I understand this is probably my most biased point, but I've seen our pr team actively moniter and manage reports)
-vast choice of fighting styles, you can make your own using different weapon combinations and strategies/techniques

Cons...
-high player count
-The community can be a bit rude
-pay to win
-lower quality updates, however I still think some are just as good

Just my opinion : j
It was probably a bad idea because people will flame me but whatever, I just wanted to give the most complete response I could.

Why is high player count a pro and con for Era when Classic's is higher?..

rorriM 08-10-2014 03:12 AM

Because era's is increasing. It will surpass classic's player count, and that is a pro because it shows a level of success, and a con because of lag/spam/etc.

MrSimons 08-10-2014 03:21 AM

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Posted by rorriM (Post 497372)
Because era's is increasing. It will surpass classic's player count, and that is a pro because it shows a level of success, and a con because of lag/spam/etc.

Classic's is increasing too?.. I understood why it was a pro and a con, but if you are going to say "high player count" as a pro or con for something, it should probably be for the server with the higher player count, not the server you think might one day have a higher player count.

Rufus 08-10-2014 03:57 AM

Both could use a lot of work.

rorriM 08-10-2014 04:02 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 497378)
Classic's is increasing too?.. I understood why it was a pro and a con, but if you are going to say "high player count" as a pro or con for something, it should probably be for the server with the higher player count, not the server you think might one day have a higher player count.

You cannot legitimately argue that era won't have a higher player count, and right now classic's technically isn't bigger, as they hover around the same count.

Nyx 08-10-2014 04:27 AM

There's always place for improvements, both servers are really great and fun in my opinion. This thread is just like the Xbox vs Playstation war haha.

iHot 08-10-2014 04:31 AM

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Posted by rorriM (Post 497391)
You cannot legitimately argue that era won't have a higher player count, and right now classic's technically isn't bigger, as they hover around the same count.

The numbers say otherwise lol

MrSimons 08-10-2014 05:57 AM

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Posted by rorriM (Post 497391)
You cannot legitimately argue that era won't have a higher player count

Until you present me with some sort of evidence that era's average playercount is rising at a faster rate than classic's, and enough to exceed classic's within the next few months, then I really don't see how you can argue that era will surpass classic. And keep in mind the thread title is "Has Era surpassed Classic", so this discussion is pointless anyway.

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Posted by rorriM (Post 497391)
and right now classic's technically isn't bigger, as they hover around the same count.

Classics average, and max playercount is higher than era's, yes it is "technically bigger".

kenthefruit 08-10-2014 06:01 AM

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Posted by Nyx (Post 497396)
There's always place for improvements, both servers are really great and fun in my opinion. This thread is just like the Xbox vs Playstation war haha.

i guess zone is the wii :(

Sloth 08-10-2014 06:48 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 497421)
Until you present me with some sort of evidence that era's average playercount is rising at a faster rate than classic's, and enough to exceed classic's within the next few months, then I really don't see how you can argue that era will surpass classic.

.

So can I try and create a chart or something to show that this is true?

GOAT 08-10-2014 07:34 AM

From a player counts perspective: I say classic has a slight edge

From a in-game quality perspective: matter of opinion

from a making money perspective: i think era might make more money for ownership than classic.

From an importance perspective: I think classic is going to keep that title for a while.

Godoco 08-10-2014 02:31 PM

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Posted by Rufus (Post 497387)
Both could use a lot of work.

^^^

Cookie Xanadu 08-10-2014 04:01 PM

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Posted by Summertime Love (Post 497118)
Every since the launch of Era, EUROCENTER's second installment of the GraalOnline game series, Era's population per day has been increasing while Classic's been growing as well, but growing at a much slower rate.
My question is: Has Era surpassed Classic by popularity(and quality?)
Edit:I'm not flamebaiting guys ;~; I genuinely love both games equally and keep it cute

Second, huh?

You uh, you keep on thinking that buddy. I won't stop you :^))))))))))

iHot 08-10-2014 04:57 PM

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Posted by Cookie Xanadu (Post 497504)
Second, huh?



You uh, you keep on thinking that buddy. I won't stop you :^))))))))))


I think she/he meant mobile.

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Posted by kenovo (Post 497422)
i guess zone is the wii :(


Which isn't necessarily a bad thing. I mean sure Wii U sales may not be great as of now and I can pick up an original Wii for like $50 but that doesn't mean much.

Kendama 08-10-2014 05:18 PM

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Posted by iHot (Post 497506)
I think she/he meant mobile.




Which isn't necessarily a bad thing. I mean sure Wii U sales may not be great as of now and I can pick up an original Wii for like $50 but that doesn't mean much.

Pretty sure eurocenter had like all these other apps on the app store before era

Craftz 08-10-2014 06:56 PM

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Posted by kenovo (Post 497422)
i guess zone is the wii :(

Didn't the wii sell more than the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3?

Summertime Love 08-10-2014 08:13 PM

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Posted by Craftz1 (Post 497522)
Didn't the wii sell more than the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3?

Individually, yes. Combined? No.

Craftz 08-10-2014 09:39 PM

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Posted by Summertime Love (Post 497540)
Individually, yes. Combined? No.

Ya ya that's what I meant.

Godoco 08-10-2014 10:32 PM

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Posted by kenovo (Post 497422)
i guess zone is the wii :(

creators of Wii and Zone still make a lot of money lol

iHot 08-10-2014 10:40 PM

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Posted by Kendama (Post 497509)
Pretty sure eurocenter had like all these other apps on the app store before era


Well in terms of iGraal games. They do have a bunch of other apps which I don't think many play. Except Tarot Online.

Ghettoicedtea 08-11-2014 03:07 PM

eras quality is crap compared to classic. Gameplay on era is crap due to you either have to be MLG pro or buy a bar to own. My question is, why does zone not get the attention it deserves


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