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CluTch 08-21-2014 07:35 PM

Guns Being Nerfed, People on Era-Go Raging for 'Refunds'
 
Really specific, I know. There are people on era-go making pointless threads about the nerfed guns, and they're not even trying to adapt to the gun. Nowadays, they're beginning to make more people join the rage and make refunds happen. I'm just asking, why do you nerf it? Do you do it by request or are you trying to fix a booster inside the gun?

kenthefruit 08-21-2014 07:37 PM

Sucks for them.

5hift 08-21-2014 10:03 PM

Oh no!

Did the BAR finally get nerfed?

Ragemypantsoff.

CluTch 08-21-2014 10:09 PM

the starter pistol gets buffed and the BAR gets nerfed. rofl the starter pistol is stronger than bar. It's 10 dmg. lolo
Olol

XSTARX 08-21-2014 11:56 PM

Starter pistol was only buffed on damage...(5)
The BAR is still better than it.

Honestly, no point in creating a thread here considering not much things will be affected on the game itself.
The point of nerfing/buffing guns it to make it more like a skilled-related gameplay. Who likes to see people spamming like a mad dog in one area?

5hift 08-21-2014 11:58 PM

Wow that actually makes sense...

I remember having a horrible time trying to defend myself as a noob.

iHot 08-22-2014 05:02 AM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 500416)
Wow that actually makes sense...

I remember having a horrible time trying to defend myself as a noob.


God forbid the Staff Team make sensible decisions to encourage new players to continue playing. How dare they.

Kane 08-22-2014 09:47 AM

http://media.tumblr.com/dd341c9ab478...CX71qz4rgp.gif

"rabble rabble rabble!" -everytime players rage

Myst 08-22-2014 01:07 PM

guns are still too strong nerf them all plese

5hift 08-22-2014 02:43 PM

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Posted by iHot (Post 500463)
God forbid the Staff Team make sensible decisions to encourage new players to continue playing. How dare they.

How true...

Hey, let's just buff all the expensive guns that only "pro" people can afford.

That'll make the game AMAZING for new or old players ;)

CluTch 08-22-2014 08:52 PM

I found a guy who says BAR should cost 999$ now..

5hift 08-23-2014 01:45 AM

All guns shuld reqire a permit to meke it moar realistik.

This IS da twenti-frst centry aniways.

Wich is wai we talk leik dis.

Vivid 08-23-2014 02:15 AM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 500626)
All guns shuld reqire a permit to meke it moar realistik.

This IS da twenti-frst centry aniways.

Wich is wai we talk leik dis.

witch is whi wee tailk lik wut

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Posted by CluTch (Post 500368)
Really specific, I know. There are people on era-go making pointless threads about the nerfed guns, and they're not even trying to adapt to the gun. Nowadays, they're beginning to make more people join the rage and make refunds happen. I'm just asking, why do you nerf it? Do you do it by request or are you trying to fix a booster inside the gun?

EVERYONE HAS RAGED ABOUT THIS AND WILL CONTINUE TO RAGE FOR NO APPARENT REASON, THIS HERE IS A POINTLESS THREAD ON GRAALIANS.I MADE A THREAD ABOUT REFUNDS AND NOW YOU KNOW.WHY DO YOU ASK SO MANY QUESTIONS? WHY DO YOU THINK QUESTIONS HELP YOU? THE REASON PEOPLE NERF GUNS IS BECAUSE THE PRICES DONT MATCH THE STATS, THE GUN IS TOO O.P. FOR ANYTHING, OR GUNS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE BEETER THAN IT GUN BEAT. WHY DOES EVERYONE THINK THAT JUST CAUSE I TYPE IN ALL CAPS MEAN I AM SCREAMING. MAYBE BECAUSE I ACTUALLY AM.

CluTch 08-23-2014 02:21 AM

You're screaming. I respect that.

XSTARX 08-23-2014 02:39 AM

I want meph to return to his GA role:(
His the best GA I've ever seen since I started knowing about him and gun stats.

DarkKnight 08-23-2014 06:20 AM

This is what happens when you install Era's two most moronic players as Guns Admins.

I warned everyone that this would happen and look where we are,
yet again.

lord greg 08-23-2014 02:09 PM

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Posted by DarkKnight (Post 500684)
This is what happens when you install Era's two most moronic players as Guns Admins.

I warned everyone that this would happen and look where we are,
yet again.

To be fair we have just had a string of bad GAs. Meph tried to make things right but had limitations to what he was allowed to do and the other previous GAs had messed everything up too much. The new ones just reskin everything and say they are fixing stuff.

Ghettoicedtea 08-24-2014 01:27 AM

wait a second, did i read this right or is era actually nerfing expensive weapons? whaaaaat

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Posted by Herb_P2P (Post 500498)
http://media.tumblr.com/dd341c9ab478...CX71qz4rgp.gif

"rabble rabble rabble!" -everytime players rage

oh man you should have seen zone when i was finished with the overhauling of the guns...

Vivid 08-25-2014 06:14 PM

Yay Now Ak47 can be cool again.

Ozzy_Magus 09-04-2014 12:41 PM

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Posted by DarkKnight (Post 500684)
This is what happens when you install Era's two most moronic players as Guns Admins.

I warned everyone that this would happen and look where we are,
yet again.

You and I are probably two of not many players who know how it really works on era, got to agree to everything you post.

But when Masa, Meph or Cloyd were GA's, those were the good old times, but sadly even with them on the crew the decisions were never 100% theirs, the current GA's (I suppose rec and sam? Not sure I havent logged in months) don't have the necessary background to hold such positions, I think we all agree that the GA'S should've been og pc players.

Back on topic, Snk is the man here who is drowning era, it's the sad truth. He gives the orders for the insane nerfs and shet, I remember talking to Meph, even Kane, they try their best, but cant do what they want. And this applies to everything, not only the guns admin issue etc...its the whole thing

Gave up on iEra long ago rofl, it'll never change untill we get a clean, non corrupt manager.
And I ain't coming back till this happens.

No flame war please guys, but what I stated is the pure truth, same as DK. Been on iera since day 1, seen it all change.

Vivid 09-04-2014 01:19 PM

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Posted by XSTARX (Post 500653)
I want meph to return to his GA role:(
His the best GA I've ever seen since I started knowing about him and gun stats.

I agree

I like meph, and he has a unique sparring skill. I didn't know he was put off his gun admin point but that's something new I guess.

Ozzy_Magus 09-04-2014 01:54 PM

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Posted by Vivid* (Post 503520)
I agree

I like meph, and he has a unique sparring skill. I didn't know he was put off his gun admin point but that's something new I guess.

Meph's a god-like sparrer, just like cloyd or his brother.
But he's a too good GA, Like stated above , all the touches he makes on the guns have to be approved by snk, snk can change them if he feels like it.

The problem here isnt about who is GA in first place but about letting them do their job ALONE.

Infernus Lapse 09-04-2014 02:11 PM

Quote:

Posted by DarkKnight (Post 500684)
This is what happens when you install Era's two most moronic players as Guns Admins.

I warned everyone that this would happen and look where we are,
yet again.

Actually not THE most ironic, they didn't go to start and pick the first two to start advertising trades for their roles. People still do that too, it's funny.

Vivid 09-04-2014 03:15 PM

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Posted by Ozzy_Magus (Post 503522)
Meph's a god-like sparrer, just like cloyd or his brother.
But he's a too good GA, Like stated above , all the touches he makes on the guns have to be approved by snk, snk can change them if he feels like it.

The problem here isnt about who is GA in first place but about letting them do their job ALONE.

Well he does this weird wiggle-jiggle thing.

DarkKnight 09-08-2014 04:34 PM

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Posted by Ozzy_Magus
You and I are probably two of not many players who know how it really works on era, got to agree to everything you post.

But when Masa, Meph or Cloyd were GA's, those were the good old times, but sadly even with them on the crew the decisions were never 100% theirs, the current GA's (I suppose rec and sam? Not sure I havent logged in months) don't have the necessary background to hold such positions, I think we all agree that the GA'S should've been og pc players.

Back on topic, Snk is the man here who is drowning era, it's the sad truth. He gives the orders for the insane nerfs and shet, I remember talking to Meph, even Kane, they try their best, but cant do what they want. And this applies to everything, not only the guns admin issue etc...its the whole thing

Gave up on iEra long ago rofl, it'll never change untill we get a clean, non corrupt manager.
And I ain't coming back till this happens.

No flame war please guys, but what I stated is the pure truth, same as DK. Been on iera since day 1, seen it all change.

<3<3<3

BEH0LD iTz SAM 09-09-2014 01:29 PM

Quote:

Posted by DarkKnight (Post 500684)
This is what happens when you install Era's two most moronic players as Guns Admins.

I warned everyone that this would happen and look where we are,
yet again.

Lets not forget this is coming from the same person who would continuously message me everytime I logged on to contact Snk to ask him to give DK a free souizen for his 'leveling service' despite him dropping himself a lightsaber when he was staff, admitted to scamming several people on the trade tables and was the ultimate driving force to push the removal of the drop system after claiming to have found the table dupe glitch. And to top it off, used another account to impersonate Mercy from era pc for a week (an old pc player who made a large portion of era pcs guns, some now used in iera like the aug, aa12 mercy m4 and acr) in an attempt to get a free MP7, and then later tried to make up something about him dying irl.

Anyway I apologise for trying to make this game more balanced by making several changes to guns including nerfing some higher up guns and buffing some of the less expensive guns. I'm sorry for bringing more attachments and accessories for a wider variety of guns besides just auction guns. i'm also sorry for working with olirus, rec and g187 and snk to make a large variety of skins so that people could have slightly more customization and variation to their guns. And rec and I are sorry for hosting the first competition where we actually gave players the chance to submit their own guns to be put in game, with fairly large prizes for several potential winners.
Like myself and Meph have said in regards to gun prices that there's nothing we can do about it since we weren't GAs when it was released, and if it was up to us it would be lower. But that can't happen and neither can refunds but honestly all of the things I stated above besides balancing aren't even required in the GA postition. Rec and I could have just done nothing at all and occasionally released a couple of stores and event guns and that would be all that's required of us. The fact that we have done so much extra, such as actually making and animating the graphics ourselves- which isn't required either- and people still complain about everything is honestly pretty frustrating. We rarely get any thanks, and that's fine since we do it as a hobby but we're grateful when people do because it still takes effort.

And this doesn't apply solely towards rec and I but to all of the staff team. None of us get paid, we all do it because we want to improve the player experience and there's just such a lack of gratitude for all of the work many of the other staff members put in. Graal is unique in the sense that it is one of the only games I know that has such a close connection between staff and players which honestly is probably a bad thing in the long term because things such as this happen.

Anyway I've said all I care to say on this, have fun on era PC dk

Vivid 09-09-2014 08:29 PM

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 504482)
Lets not forget this is coming from the same person who would continuously message me everytime I logged on to contact Snk to ask him to give DK a free souizen for his 'leveling service' despite him dropping himself a lightsaber when he was staff, admitted to scamming several people on the trade tables and was the ultimate driving force to push the removal of the drop system after claiming to have found the table dupe glitch. And to top it off, used another account to impersonate Mercy from era pc for a week (an old pc player who made a large portion of era pcs guns, some now used in iera like the aug, aa12 mercy m4 and acr) in an attempt to get a free MP7, and then later tried to make up something about him dying irl.

Anyway I apologise for trying to make this game more balanced by making several changes to guns including nerfing some higher up guns and buffing some of the less expensive guns. I'm sorry for bringing more attachments and accessories for a wider variety of guns besides just auction guns. i'm also sorry for working with olirus, rec and g187 and snk to make a large variety of skins so that people could have slightly more customization and variation to their guns. And rec and I are sorry for hosting the first competition where we actually gave players the chance to submit their own guns to be put in game, with fairly large prizes for several potential winners.
Like myself and Meph have said in regards to gun prices that there's nothing we can do about it since we weren't GAs when it was released, and if it was up to us it would be lower. But that can't happen and neither can refunds but honestly all of the things I stated above besides balancing aren't even required in the GA postition. Rec and I could have just done nothing at all and occasionally released a couple of stores and event guns and that would be all that's required of us. The fact that we have done so much extra, such as actually making and animating the graphics ourselves- which isn't required either- and people still complain about everything is honestly pretty frustrating. We rarely get any thanks, and that's fine since we do it as a hobby but we're grateful when people do because it still takes effort.

And this doesn't apply solely towards rec and I but to all of the staff team. None of us get paid, we all do it because we want to improve the player experience and there's just such a lack of gratitude for all of the work many of the other staff members put in. Graal is unique in the sense that it is one of the only games I know that has such a close connection between staff and players which honestly is probably a bad thing in the long term because things such as this happen.

Anyway I've said all I care to say on this, have fun on era PC dk

Guns Admin sounds like so much fun.

XSTARX 09-09-2014 10:47 PM

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Posted by Vivid* (Post 504544)
Guns Admin sounds like so much fun.

Indeed!
After memorizing everything about codes and all.
Your sentences can even become numbers!

Ghettoicedtea 09-09-2014 11:03 PM

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Posted by Vivid* (Post 504544)
Guns Admin sounds like so much fun.

its not, its really not much fun. Only fun part is blasting people with admin guns and testing out new ways for the game to be played. Other than that, its you getting hate mail because you changed a gun.

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Posted by Ozzy_Magus (Post 503522)
Meph's a god-like sparrer, just like cloyd or his brother.
But he's a too good GA, Like stated above , all the touches he makes on the guns have to be approved by snk, snk can change them if he feels like it.

The problem here isnt about who is GA in first place but about letting them do their job ALONE.

go play zone, guns are pretty balanced out there.

DarkKnight 09-09-2014 11:36 PM

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Posted by Bitzsam
Lets not forget this is coming from the same person who would continuously message me everytime I logged on to contact Snk to ask him to give DK a free souizen for his 'leveling service' despite him dropping himself a lightsaber when he was staff, admitted to scamming several people on the trade tables and was the ultimate driving force to push the removal of the drop system after claiming to have found the table dupe glitch. And to top it off, used another account to impersonate Mercy from era pc for a week (an old pc player who made a large portion of era pcs guns, some now used in iera like the aug, aa12 mercy m4 and acr) in an attempt to get a free MP7, and then later tried to make up something about him dying irl.

Anyway I apologise for trying to make this game more balanced by making several changes to guns including nerfing some higher up guns and buffing some of the less expensive guns. I'm sorry for bringing more attachments and accessories for a wider variety of guns besides just auction guns. i'm also sorry for working with olirus, rec and g187 and snk to make a large variety of skins so that people could have slightly more customization and variation to their guns. And rec and I are sorry for hosting the first competition where we actually gave players the chance to submit their own guns to be put in game, with fairly large prizes for several potential winners.
Like myself and Meph have said in regards to gun prices that there's nothing we can do about it since we weren't GAs when it was released, and if it was up to us it would be lower. But that can't happen and neither can refunds but honestly all of the things I stated above besides balancing aren't even required in the GA postition. Rec and I could have just done nothing at all and occasionally released a couple of stores and event guns and that would be all that's required of us. The fact that we have done so much extra, such as actually making and animating the graphics ourselves- which isn't required either- and people still complain about everything is honestly pretty frustrating. We rarely get any thanks, and that's fine since we do it as a hobby but we're grateful when people do because it still takes effort.

And this doesn't apply solely towards rec and I but to all of the staff team. None of us get paid, we all do it because we want to improve the player experience and there's just such a lack of gratitude for all of the work many of the other staff members put in. Graal is unique in the sense that it is one of the only games I know that has such a close connection between staff and players which honestly is probably a bad thing in the long term because things such as this happen.

Anyway I've said all I care to say on this, have fun on era PC dk

LOL, Don't you ****ing dare try to justify your absolute ****ness as both a person and an administrator by calling me out for stuff that I find absolutely ****ing hilarious.

Ghettoicedtea 09-10-2014 08:23 PM

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 504482)
Rec and I could have just done nothing at all and occasionally released a couple of stores and event guns and that would be all that's required of us. The fact that we have done so much extra, such as actually making and animating the graphics ourselves- which isn't required either- and people still complain about everything is honestly pretty frustrating. We rarely get any thanks, and that's fine since we do it as a hobby but we're grateful when people do because it still takes effort.

You shouldn't be focusing on graphics, you were hired to balance guns, not make graphics for guns. Also I know how much time graphic making takes up and it seems like you are wasting so much energy on that instead of your job of balancing guns seeing how your argument is based on the we have done so much extra.

Another thing, doing something will lead into massive frustration and QQing at first but then after a week it never pops up again. Trust me, i know this since I make changes at least once a week to guns/melees

DarkKnight 09-10-2014 10:54 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea
you were hired to balance guns, not make graphics for guns

DING DING DING

Infernus Lapse 09-11-2014 12:03 AM

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Posted by DarkKnight (Post 504584)
LOL, Don't you ****ing dare try to justify your absolute ****ness as both a person and an administrator by calling me out for stuff that I find absolutely ****ing hilarious.

Way to be the better man... >.>

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 504875)
You shouldn't be focusing on graphics, you were hired to balance guns, not make graphics for guns. Also I know how much time graphic making takes up and it seems like you are wasting so much energy on that instead of your job of balancing guns seeing how your argument is based on the we have done so much extra.

Another thing, doing something will lead into massive frustration and QQing at first but then after a week it never pops up again. Trust me, i know this since I make changes at least once a week to guns/melees

The point is that he gave era those features because he wanted to, because he went above his duty as an admin to give era players those gifts.

BEH0LD iTz SAM 09-11-2014 12:28 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 504875)
You shouldn't be focusing on graphics, you were hired to balance guns, not make graphics for guns. Also I know how much time graphic making takes up and it seems like you are wasting so much energy on that instead of your job of balancing guns seeing how your argument is based on the we have done so much extra.

Another thing, doing something will lead into massive frustration and QQing at first but then after a week it never pops up again. Trust me, i know this since I make changes at least once a week to guns/melees

What Infernus said is correct, as for balancing the game, if you checked era go/ went in game you would see that's what i've been doing for the past 5months

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 504482)
Anyway I apologise for trying to make this game more balanced by making several changes to guns including nerfing some higher up guns and buffing some of the less expensive guns.

And like I said the graphics I make I do during spare time instead of just doing nothing since if you change a stat -you should know- you need to wait a week to see the effect it makes because if you just change everything at once it stuffs the game up

Ghettoicedtea 09-11-2014 12:39 AM

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 504914)
And like I said the graphics I make I do during spare time instead of just doing nothing since if you change a stat -you should know- you need to wait a week to see the effect it makes because if you just change everything at once it stuffs the game up

use your resources, use unreleased stuff that only you can get and test out the weapon changes you want to make on them too see if they are reasonable or not. Also USE THEM IN COMBAT otherwise its a complete waste of time. This has worked great for me. Just ignore all the pms and slaughter them all, they will fight back.

I dont want to touch era ever again, that game is cancerous, im also IP banned on Era Go so i cant go on there to see the progress of balancing. Although since theres so much guns, no point of even trying to balance them and make them unique any more.

BEH0LD iTz SAM 09-11-2014 12:42 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 504918)
use your resources, use unreleased stuff that only you can get and test out the weapon changes you want to make on them too see if they are reasonable or not. Also USE THEM IN COMBAT otherwise its a complete waste of time. This has worked great for me. Just ignore all the pms and slaughter them all, they will fight back.

It's not about just you using the gun it's a range of people. You shouldn't be balancing guns based off how one person uses it because on its own it may be fine but when you get a number of people using it in different circumstances, it becomes overpowered.

Craftz 09-11-2014 01:03 AM

Haven't really read any of this thread but it seems like bull **** if someone spends a ton of gralats on a really OP gun, then the gun gets nerfed to absolute **** and it isn't what you payed for anymore.

Ghettoicedtea 09-11-2014 01:34 AM

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 504919)
It's not about just you using the gun it's a range of people. You shouldn't be balancing guns based off how one person uses it because on its own it may be fine but when you get a number of people using it in different circumstances, it becomes overpowered.

Not if you ask for feedback, ask and you will receive feedback.

BEH0LD iTz SAM 09-11-2014 02:18 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 504933)
Not if you ask for feedback, ask and you will receive feedback.

Maybe on zone that works but the only feedback you will ever get is 'nerf makes my gun not op anymore refund' 1/10 players actually have sense on era

CluTch 09-11-2014 02:39 AM

No cursing please. I'd appreciate it if someone takes hold of the thread for me. Sam?

Cookie Xanadu 09-11-2014 04:14 AM

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Posted by Craftz1 (Post 504925)
Haven't really read any of this thread but it seems like bull **** if someone spends a ton of gralats on a really OP gun, then the gun gets nerfed to absolute **** and it isn't what you payed for anymore.

So you want a gun with immense stats that completely outclasses any and all guns to remain untouched because it was overlooked? Well okay then.

DarkKnight 09-11-2014 04:19 AM

Sam, you and Rec are both utter ****. There is nothing you can possibly say to justify the two of you deserving the position. My 13 year old brother who has only played like 100 hours of Era could grasp the concept of being Era's Guns Admin better than the two of you combined. Snk actually told me the truth about the stats and stuff, rofl

In fact, I woudn't be surprised if Rec and Sam released an overwall, overpowered, 200k+ flak cannon, knowing the two of them.

Sad part is I used to think Sam was cool , until he turned into a colossal ****ing asshole.

Craftz 09-11-2014 12:34 PM

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Posted by Cookie Xanadu (Post 504990)
So you want a gun with immense stats that completely outclasses any and all guns to remain untouched because it was overlooked? Well okay then.

I never said I wanted a gun to remain OP. But if someone buys it for its OP stats they should atleast get a refund when it is seriously nerfed.

Titan*S 09-12-2014 12:30 AM

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 504944)
Maybe on zone that works but the only feedback you will ever get is 'nerf makes my gun not op anymore refund' 1/10 players actually have sense on era

Lol true. Era is no where near like Zone. You can at least get good feedback on Zone but Era? Psh, forget about it. Honestly good for you Sam nerfing guns and stuff. Don't mind people giving negative feedback they will grow into it soon enough.

Ghettoicedtea 09-12-2014 02:09 PM

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Posted by Titan*S (Post 505108)
Lol true. Era is no where near like Zone. You can at least get good feedback on Zone but Era? Psh, forget about it. Honestly good for you Sam nerfing guns and stuff. Don't mind people giving negative feedback they will grow into it soon enough.

what lies is this? 99% of my feedback i get is ur gun OP, this OP, buff this, nerf tht, wow buff my gun back up u flamming fagit etc etc.

Every once in a blue moon i will get ya your gun is fair, or your guns clip needs to be nerfed, the ROF is way to high, damage way to high, etc.

XSTARX 09-12-2014 04:16 PM

Don't blame the game, blame the player.
People often go the opposite way instead, they're just idiots seeking attention once in awhile.

Vivid 09-12-2014 06:24 PM

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Posted by DarkKnight (Post 504991)

In fact, I woudn't be surprised if Rec and Sam released an overwall, overpowered, 200k+ flak cannon, knowing the two of them.

^lol this is what graal needs.

Blundershot Flak Cannon
Damage-5 (Per Bullet) shoots 5 shots
Clip-15
Reload-Medium
Spread-High
Price-300k
Perks-Gold skin w/Lock-On Effect
ROF-Medium
Artillary Pistol(s)
Damage-9+Fire
Clip-12
Reload-Fast
Spread-None
Price-100k Each
Perks-Dual Weild/Does more damage when Artillary Cannon Equipped
ROF-High
Lazer A-12 (Sniper Rifle)
Damage-25
Clip-3
Reload-Medium
Spread-None
Price-140k
Perks-Lazer Changes with Skin
ROF-Medium

Rav-12(If I Ever become Admin, I'm making this Gun)
Damage-9
Clip-12
Reload-Medium
Spread-Little
Price-$112k
Perks-3-Round Burst Attachment
ROF-High

Sawed Uzi(LOL)
Damage-8
Clip-21
Reload-Medium
Spread-Medium
Price-$65k
Perks-Dual Weild/Has 1%change to shoot 3 bullets like a shotgun
ROF-High

Ghettoicedtea 09-12-2014 08:56 PM

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Damage 50
Clip 6
reload .2
spread 0
ROF 2.0
price $420,911
freeze .14
*when you pull trigger your character does a 360 like the gold m4 did at one point, then fires.

69/420 would definatly blaze it and buy it -IGN

5hift 09-12-2014 09:13 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 505341)
xX_Int3rV3nTi0n_420b14z3iT_360n0sK0p3z_gItR3kTf4giTh4rDsK0pRXx

Damage 50
Clip 6
reload .2
spread 0
ROF 2.0
price $420,911
freeze .14
*when you pull trigger your character does a 360 like the gold m4 did at one point, then fires.

69/420 would definatly blaze it and buy it -IGN

Totally worth the 400k+.

Ghettoicedtea 09-13-2014 05:02 AM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 505345)
Totally worth the 400k+.

so werf the $160


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