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slyde 09-08-2014 03:02 AM

Private Body/Head/Customs
 
Guys I have this body that I made from scratch long ago and I made a recolor in red/skin color last Halloween. Now someone has that same body as mine(the one I currently wear, but in red).

Now I don't really mind people using my body, but this person, not gonna call him out, claimed that he made it himself. Which really made me mad because it was like his saying that he made this body in the 6hrs that took me to make it.

So my question is how does one get a private body/head/custom from? Is there a site that does this? I just wanna know so I can atleast see it for myself and not feel confused inside.

...its only a matter of time before my head gets claimed by someone else.

Kendama 09-08-2014 03:23 AM

The website GraalDepot is the main source of Graphic stealing. The people that run that website use a data reading tool such as iFile to rip the files straight from the game, since they become cached on your device whenever you come across them in game.

The sad thing is that it is allowed for people to use other peoples graphics without their permission. As long as it has been uploaded on Graal it is property of Graal and no longer yours.

Rogers 09-08-2014 03:40 AM

You cant do anything about other people steal your work, its sad i know it because a guy stole my tiger head.

I take a decision, i wont make another personal custom only if i'm secure that nobody can wear it or use it

Dusty 09-08-2014 03:46 AM

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Posted by Kendama (Post 504134)
The sad thing is that it is allowed for people to use other peoples graphics without their permission. As long as it has been uploaded on Graal it is property of Graal and no longer yours.

Well I mean... in actuality it's impossible to enforce any sort of way to prevent stealing graphics. To do so would be an effort in futility... if you put your stuff on the internet at all, someone, somewhere, is going to steal it and there is nothing you can do about it. Trust me, there are about three games out there profiting off of my art.

Dawn 09-08-2014 03:51 AM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 504139)
to enforce any sort of way to steal graphics.three games out there profiting off of my art.

Three is alot.

slyde 09-08-2014 04:02 AM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 504139)
Well I mean... in actuality it's impossible to enforce any sort of way to prevent stealing graphics. To do so would be an effort in futility... if you put your stuff on the internet at all, someone, somewhere, is going to steal it and there is nothing you can do about it. Trust me, there are about three games out there profiting off of my art.

Ya I agree with how its useless to prevent stealing but isn't there some kind of way to credit the person that actually made it first.

About your art couldn't you like sue them for copyright, if they are profiting off it?

Dusty 09-08-2014 04:11 AM

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Posted by slyde (Post 504144)
Ya I agree with how its useless to prevent stealing but isn't there some kind of way to credit the person that actually made it first.

Nope, it's just like censoring chat. They can and will bypass it. There is no algorithm we could implement that would be able to accurately detect stolen graphics that people couldn't find out simple ways to bypass... and even if we did, it would be VERY late to the game and thus, there's already thousands of graphics on the server... how would we determine who REALLY owns what.

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Posted by slyde (Post 504144)
About your art couldn't you like sue them for copyright, if they are profiting off it?

Those sort of things are not really in favor of the little guy. The best someone like me can do is send them an e-mail asking them to remove it and hope they're actually pretty decent people that weren't really trying to do damage or anything... but most of the time they're not. Sometimes they'll respond that they're going to remove it and don't, some just don't respond. In the cast of one game on X-box Live arcade even filing a report through Microsoft(the game was using stolen art from various Minecraft texture packs), it was a waste of time.

Typically not even big companies will go to the extreme of actually suing anyone, they just have their lawyers send out scary Cease and Desists and such that typically deal with most minor copyright issues. Dealing with courts and lawyers is such an expensive process that just fighting for something you actually have legal reason to fight for can end up with you going bankrupt... and that's actually a strategy big business will employ--where they have the money to just keep little people in court until they bankrupt and can't fight the case anymore.

Dawn 09-08-2014 04:18 AM

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Posted by slyde (Post 504144)

About your art couldn't you like sue them for copyright, if they are profiting off it?

they don't give a dam to ifile it back just to give the personal head to u.how are they profiting off of it?if they want it,usually they really like it but might not give u credit for it.

slyde 09-08-2014 04:19 AM

Damn...reality sucks.

So we can't close graaldepot?

Dawn 09-08-2014 04:23 AM

Yes,u cant close graal depot.http://i.imgur.com/1cKA8TR.png

Britneyxox 09-08-2014 08:17 PM

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Posted by Dawn (Post 504156)
Yes,u cant close graal depot.http://i.imgur.com/1cKA8TR.png



I've got a magic 8 ball in rl lol

Crono 09-08-2014 08:23 PM

Magic 8 ball is how major decisions on all the Graal servers are made bro.

Will iClassic ever release trading? Time will tell. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

meganey98 09-09-2014 12:05 AM

If you can't prevent people from stealing graphics. Why can't we make an official website just for public heads/bodies, like we did for public shields/swords on TaylorRichaards?
We can make new sections in TaylorRichaards for public heads/bodies. We can see all the list of heads/bodies and when we click on it, it displays the original head maker and code that can be used in game and we have to pay 10k/20k for buying it.
This will allow a lot more server space and the credits goes to the real gfx artists.

Livid 09-09-2014 12:08 AM

Answer to all problems: Put your name on the head. Then they have explaining to do.

meganey98 09-09-2014 12:14 AM

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Posted by Livid (Post 504334)
Answer to all problems: Put your name on the head. Then they have explaining to do.

I can easily edit names out.

Cookie Xanadu 09-09-2014 12:17 AM

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Posted by slyde (Post 504129)
Guys I have this body that I made from scratch long ago and I made a recolor in red/skin color last Halloween. Now someone has that same body as mine(the one I currently wear, but in red).

Now I don't really mind people using my body, but this person, not gonna call him out, claimed that he made it himself. Which really made me mad because it was like his saying that he made this body in the 6hrs that took me to make it.

So my question is how does one get a private body/head/custom from? Is there a site that does this? I just wanna know so I can atleast see it for myself and not feel confused inside.

...its only a matter of time before my head gets claimed by someone else.

Simple. Become staff, upload said head or body to your PC account and BAM! It's private. If someone else takes it then it's legal to remove/deny it from anyone else or the server. It also gives you credibility later so that if you upload it and someone else has it later on even you can just claim they're impersonating staff.

Kendama 09-09-2014 12:33 AM

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Posted by Cookie Xanadu (Post 504339)
Simple. Become staff, upload said head or body to your PC account and BAM! It's private. If someone else takes it then it's legal to remove/deny it from anyone else or the server. It also gives you credibility later so that if you upload it and someone else has it later on even you can just claim they're impersonating staff.

Anybody with this mindset should not be allowed to be staff

Rogers 09-09-2014 01:15 AM

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Look what im talking about...he is a "GFX artist"
Of course he stole my personal head

Craftz 09-09-2014 01:48 AM

Just do what Santa does and make all your fanboys rage pm people to remove the head.

slyde 09-09-2014 02:07 AM

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Posted by Craftz1 (Post 504361)
Just do what Santa does and make all your fanboys rage pm people to remove the head.

I don't really mind if people use or edit my bodies. The part that made me mad was the part where this person said that he was the "original owner" of the body, claiming it his. If he had said that he got it from a website or that he edited some parts I wouldn't have minded it.

Why don't they just say the truth...not like I can actually take the body away from their account or something.

Livid 09-09-2014 04:00 AM

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Posted by meganey98 (Post 504338)
I can easily edit names out.

You sound trained. Suspect of stealing customs 1.

MrSimons 09-09-2014 04:09 AM

Nothing can be done about stealing graphics. No point complaining about it, imo the best thing to do is to drop the ego and not give af if people use your graphics/claim they made them.

Livid 09-09-2014 04:12 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 504390)
Nothing can be done about stealing graphics. No point complaining about it, imo the best thing to do is to drop the ego and not give af if people use your graphics/claim they made them.

Or do what most smart people do and wear the head saying hi to everyone tell them how yah made it, if someone sees someone else wearing it they know its yours and not that persons, not saying MrSimons is wrong, this is just a 2nd option.

MrSimons 09-09-2014 04:29 AM

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Posted by Livid (Post 504391)
Or do what most smart people do and wear the head saying hi to everyone tell them how yah made it, if someone sees someone else wearing it they know its yours and not that persons, not saying MrSimons is wrong, this is just a 2nd option.

The point of my post was to not be a show off.

ryan6 09-09-2014 08:30 AM

There's no way around it really… Posting anything on the internet can be stolen do it at your own risk~

Livid 09-09-2014 12:39 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 504397)
The point of my post was to not be a show off.

No one really has a choice but to show it off, once uploaded its no longer their property its graals. So even if they didnt want to, they'd be showing everyone the upload and out of those people shown the customs will be stolen. Circle of Life

Craftz 09-09-2014 12:46 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 504390)
Nothing can be done about stealing graphics. No point complaining about it, imo the best thing to do is to drop the ego and not give af if people use your graphics/claim they made them.

I had a guy on Era steal my custom head with my name on it, then changed his name to Craftz and made a youtube channel called Craftz Graal or something. He claimed he made the head and I was impersonating him on Classic.

GOAT 09-09-2014 03:50 PM

^^^ lol

I had something similar. Some dude used to wear my name shield and try to claim he was the original.

meganey98 09-09-2014 04:34 PM

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Posted by Livid (Post 504387)
You sound trained. Suspect of stealing customs 1.

Ha! yes, I work for Graal Depot ;)


Just kidding

Cookie Xanadu 09-09-2014 07:47 PM

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Posted by Kendama (Post 504342)
Anybody with this mindset should not be allowed to be staff

It's still an option though!

MrSimons 09-10-2014 03:20 AM

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Posted by Craftz1 (Post 504473)
I had a guy on Era steal my custom head with my name on it, then changed his name to Craftz and made a youtube channel called Craftz Graal or something. He claimed he made the head and I was impersonating him on Classic.

Big difference between graphics theft and impersonation.

Dawn 09-10-2014 07:57 AM

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Posted by meganey98 (Post 504338)
I can easily edit names out.

Least they waste time.

Craftz 09-10-2014 08:36 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 504668)
Big difference between graphics theft and impersonation.

He still took my head.


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