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Orbitus_Graal 09-21-2014 11:36 AM

Well...Well....Well!
 
The last time I played Graal they said that there would be Graal Online Delteria for iOS/Android!


What happened!?!?!:'(

Distorted 09-21-2014 01:38 PM

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Posted by Orbitus_Graal (Post 507561)
The last time I played Graal they said that there would be Graal Online Delteria for iOS/Android!


What happened!?!?!:'(

Everyone stopped caring about Delteria because it sucks really bad.
Mysticaldragon screwed upp.

imSupah 09-21-2014 03:52 PM

Delteria just sucks lol. Doubt it will ever come to iOS as the server is really just boring..and bad.

fsh 09-21-2014 06:23 PM

I tested on iOS for a whole year and they release on FaceBook:angry::angry::angry::angry::angry:

Kendama 09-21-2014 06:29 PM

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Posted by xSupah* (Post 507583)
Delteria just sucks lol. Doubt it will ever come to iOS as the server is really just boring..and bad.

It's developing slowly I have seen some of the developing content and its pretty impressive

imSupah 09-21-2014 06:30 PM

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Posted by Kendama (Post 507605)
It's developing slowly I have seen some of the developing content and its pretty impressive


Still and always will be sucky in my eyes. Fix some bugs instead of making content..But nooo MD server, MD way. Bored and horrible.

Kendama 09-21-2014 06:46 PM

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Posted by xSupah* (Post 507608)
Still and always will be sucky in my eyes. Fix some bugs instead of making content..But nooo MD server, MD way. Bored and horrible.

Then that is just ignorance. But it is your initiative.

The bugs will be fixed, sure it is taking some time and affecting the server in its current state, but the server is inevitably advancing and getting better with higher strides than other servers such as classic.

Distorted 09-21-2014 09:48 PM

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Posted by Kendama (Post 507616)
Then that is just ignorance. But it is your initiative.

The bugs will be fixed, sure it is taking some time and affecting the server in its current state, but the server is inevitably advancing and getting better with higher strides than other servers such as classic.

No it just sucks, period.

Kendama 09-21-2014 11:12 PM

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Posted by Distorted (Post 507645)
No it just sucks, period.

What graal server doesn't suck?

Tricxta 09-21-2014 11:24 PM

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Posted by Kendama (Post 507663)
What graal server doesn't suck?

Thor's Graal the Adventure. Like dayummm. And then Stefan was an awkward obstacle and stopped that train leaving the station which is a real shame...

Aguzo 09-22-2014 01:31 AM

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Posted by Kendama (Post 507605)
It's developing slowly I have seen some of the developing content and its pretty impressive

It needs a better art-style, bugs need to be fixed, the guild system is weird.
Besides, the game died out fast, not sure how it can rise again and have a player count of more than at least 200 ever again. If that ever happens, I will definitely get on.

Kendama 09-22-2014 02:25 AM

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Posted by Hikaru (Post 507703)
It needs a better art-style, bugs need to be fixed, the guild system is weird.
Besides, the game died out fast, not sure how it can rise again and have a player count of more than at least 200 ever again. If that ever happens, I will definitely get on.

The art style is like old delteria? Thats a complete opinion. I like Delterias art style. It matches the graal theme.

It died out fast? It was released as a rush because stefan decided he wanted everything switched from ios to facebook compatible. It caused the release to have many bugs. Of course it lost players from its initial release? Every single server had that happen.

Aguzo 09-22-2014 02:47 AM

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Posted by Kendama (Post 507710)
Of course it lost players from its initial release? Every single server had that happen.

Classic started from the bottom, and went up from there. Era is slowly passing classic. You like the art-style, I don't. Basically, because it is shaded badly. Mostly the npcs, and mobs. I'm not saying that they can't come back from a major loss, I would love to have the game come back to having a lot of people on the server. There are a lot more issues that need to be fixed, but that is the staff's job. Overall the game is fun, sometimes.

I'm sure a lot more people would start playing if it ever hits mobile.

Draco 09-24-2014 12:49 AM

Eh, to me it seems like it is classic except without the killing and fort-taking.
(I haven't played it in a while so I don't know if that has changed or not)

Kendama 09-24-2014 12:57 AM

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Posted by Draco (Post 508110)
Eh, to me it seems like it is classic except without the killing and fort-taking.
(I haven't played it in a while so I don't know if that has changed or not)

Not quite man. It is KIND OF like a simplified version of Zodiac with a mix of Classic and its own unique art style. There are some things that seem similar to Kingdoms too.

Really it is just the most straightforward and simple, yet populated, game of that roleplaying style.

Draco 09-24-2014 12:59 AM

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Posted by Kendama (Post 508117)
Not quite man. It is KIND OF like a simplified version of Zodiac with a mix of Classic and its own unique art style. There are some things that seem similar to Kingdoms too.

Really it is just the most straightforward and simple, yet populated, game of that roleplaying style.

Oh, ok, I haven't played it in so long, it seems the PC version is different then the FB Version (IDK)
:D

Kendama 09-24-2014 01:10 AM

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Posted by Draco (Post 508118)
Oh, ok, I haven't played it in so long, it seems the PC version is different then the FB Version (IDK)
:D

When played on client it preforms much better than it does on facebook :)

I would say the major gameplay points on delteria right now would include:

-Many collectable weapons (Melees, swords, staffs) Including a player economy.
-Quests and a leveling system
-A perk system to let you decide what abilities you will have in combat
-A major focus on dungeons and party raids. It is shifting more towards teamwork in upcoming updates.
-Typical Job systems (Mining, fishing, farming, panning, ect)

Draco 09-24-2014 01:13 AM

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Posted by Kendama (Post 508122)
When played on client it preforms much better than it does on facebook :)

I would say the major gameplay points on delteria right now would include:

-Many collectable weapons (Melees, swords, staffs) Including a player economy.
-Quests and a leveling system
-A perk system to let you decide what abilities you will have in combat
-A major focus on dungeons and party raids. It is shifting more towards teamwork in upcoming updates.
-Typical Job systems (Mining, fishing, farming, panning, ect)

Oh yea BIG time XD

5hift 09-24-2014 02:20 AM

Delteria stopped being relevant to me the moment horses were released.

They looked so cool but turned out to be completely useless.

MrSimons 09-24-2014 02:55 AM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 508133)
Delteria stopped being relevant to me the moment Delteria was released.

FTFY!

Some of the artists on delt are pretty cool, but the palette they use is so damn dull and hideous, it's one of the big things that holds the whole server back. And I'd like to say that any server that can barely occupy 100 players on a good day is not "strides better than classic" lmao

I seriously feel bad for all the people who worked years on it though, just to have it released unfinished and trashed by management.

Kendama 09-24-2014 03:22 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 508137)
FTFY!

Some of the artists on delt are pretty cool, but the palette they use is so damn dull and hideous, it's one of the big things that holds the whole server back. And I'd like to say that any server that can barely occupy 100 players on a good day is not "strides better than classic" lmao

I seriously feel bad for all the people who worked years on it though, just to have it released unfinished and trashed by management.

The updates they have coming along are actually quite impressive, saying this from a testing a little bit of it myself.

But yeah, it would had been much nicer if release was cleaner and we didn't have the drama that is management.

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Posted by 5hift (Post 508133)
Delteria stopped being relevant to me the moment horses were released.

They looked so cool but turned out to be completely useless.

Aren't you one of the 2 people who hold the rarest item on the game?

Cookie Xanadu 09-24-2014 03:30 AM

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Posted by Kendama (Post 508117)
Not quite man. It is KIND OF like a simplified version of Zodiac with a mix of Classic and its own unique art style. There are some things that seem similar to Kingdoms too.

Really it is just the most straightforward and simple, yet populated, game of that roleplaying style.

I wouldn't say it's anything like Zodiac honestly. Zodiac doesn't use perks. Instead you can build up your character with any class you have available with a max of 60 levels total.

MrSimons 09-24-2014 03:34 AM

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Posted by Kendama (Post 508139)
The updates they have coming along are actually quite impressive, saying this from a testing a little bit of it myself.

But yeah, it would had been much nicer if release was cleaner and we didn't have the drama that is management.

I usually log on once a month, haven't seen anything worth staying for.

imSupah 09-24-2014 03:35 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 508143)
I usually log on once a month, haven't seen anything worth staying for.


This.

Vivid 09-24-2014 02:00 PM

I've played it, the Graphics aren't bad just seem undeveloped. I think it just needs more variety but the things in the actual game aren't really that great. If you look at a players profile it looks really basic. Overall, the game isn't really bad, just needs work and Population/Dedicated Players.

5hift 09-24-2014 04:06 PM

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Posted by Kendama (Post 508139)
Aren't you one of the 2 people who hold the rarest item on the game?

Yarp.

Still gonna hold onto that.

Kendama 09-24-2014 08:41 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 508143)
I usually log on once a month, haven't seen anything worth staying for.

updates they have coming along= unreleased stuff. I have just seen some unreleased baddies/boss fights/dungeons/menus and it is all a big leap of advancement from what we have now.

??? 09-24-2014 10:14 PM

One of the reasons they couldn't do some of their best is because the management is just plain ******ed and they fired some of their best staff for no reason... *cough* MD *cough*

/hate

MrSimons 09-25-2014 01:22 AM

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Posted by Kendama (Post 508241)
updates they have coming along= unreleased stuff. I have just seen some unreleased baddies/boss fights/dungeons/menus and it is all a big leap of advancement from what we have now.

See the thing I dislike about delt is how everyone talks about how great *its going to be*, and pretending that some unreleased content, that has only been worked on for under a year is going to be added and somehow make delt the best server on graal.

Fysez 09-25-2014 02:08 AM

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Posted by ??? (Post 508250)
One of the reasons they couldn't do some of their best is because the management is just plain ******ed and they fired some of their best staff for no reason... *cough* MD *cough*

/hate

This ^^^^

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 508289)
See the thing I dislike about delt is how everyone talks about how great *its going to be*, and pretending that some unreleased content, that has only been worked on for under a year is going to be added and somehow make delt the best server on graal.

And also this ^^^^

Rofl

MysticalDragon 09-25-2014 06:26 PM

Delteria maintains an amazing player count for only being on FB and PC. When iZone first released it only had 40-60 players. You say Bugs don't get fixed, but I been fixing bugs constantly as there reported. I never fired really anyone on Delteria that Didn't deserve it, and unfortunately some devs was just terrible. Most of these opinions are just that opinions, i en joy delteria with the other 100+ players that play. Nah Delteria isn't for everyone, but if your looking for a good mixture of stuff, its pretty sweet in my own opinion. Every Dungeon is different and unique, we don't just push out Hat Updates because thats just lame.. So the updates I push take time.

-Also, If I wasn't around what would get done :)

My conclusion is, if you don't like delteria don't play it. Good chances is delteria doesn't need you either. But if your willing to help us change delteria and make it a better game, you can report bugs int he bugs thread or ideas int he future improvement threads,

Now to keep this Subject on track and regarding IOS, With stefan leaving Unixmad put Ol'west as priority because at first he thought it was finished. After much investigating he has seen how much time and effort we put into delteria so we got pushed back up to priority for IOS. Delteria does plan to go to IOS, and until then its like everyother graal project its a waiting game that's out of our control. Only thing I can do is continue to update that server and please the higher ups.

Cookie Xanadu 09-25-2014 07:59 PM

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Posted by MysticalDragon (Post 508412)
With stefan leaving Unixmad

So then this is confirmed that he did leave?

MysticalDragon 09-25-2014 09:29 PM

No comment ;p

Fysez 09-25-2014 10:02 PM

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Posted by MysticalDragon (Post 508412)
Delteria maintains an amazing player count for only being on FB and PC. When iZone first released it only had 40-60 players. You say Bugs don't get fixed, but I been fixing bugs constantly as there reported. I never fired really anyone on Delteria that Didn't deserve it, and unfortunately some devs was just terrible. Most of these opinions are just that opinions, i en joy delteria with the other 100+ players that play. Nah Delteria isn't for everyone, but if your looking for a good mixture of stuff, its pretty sweet in my own opinion. Every Dungeon is different and unique, we don't just push out Hat Updates because thats just lame.. So the updates I push take time.

-Also, If I wasn't around what would get done :)

My conclusion is, if you don't like delteria don't play it. Good chances is delteria doesn't need you either. But if your willing to help us change delteria and make it a better game, you can report bugs int he bugs thread or ideas int he future improvement threads,

Now to keep this Subject on track and regarding IOS, With stefan leaving Unixmad put Ol'west as priority because at first he thought it was finished. After much investigating he has seen how much time and effort we put into delteria so we got pushed back up to priority for IOS. Delteria does plan to go to IOS, and until then its like everyother graal project its a waiting game that's out of our control. Only thing I can do is continue to update that server and please the higher ups.

The amount of spelling errors and grammatically incorrect sentences is unbearable.

hosler 09-25-2014 10:20 PM

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Posted by Fysez (Post 508450)
The amount of spelling errors and grammatically incorrect sentences is unbearable.

Don't care anymore

MrSimons 09-25-2014 10:40 PM

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Posted by MysticalDragon (Post 508412)
Delteria maintains an amazing player count for only being on FB and PC. When iZone first released it only had 40-60 players.

Are you high? 85 could probably be considered an amazing playercount for a server like UN, but you cannot be serious when you say that a server that was heavily discussed years prior to its release, that nearly every Graalian knew about can use any sort of excuse like "oh its only on facebook/pc".

Plus, Zone never averaged 40 - 60 players, however yes, when it was released the playercount was pretty low. But its almost been a year now with Delteria released, by that amount of time iZone was averaging a little over double what your max is for the past few months.

??? 09-25-2014 11:39 PM

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Posted by MysticalDragon (Post 508412)
I never fired really anyone on Delteria that Didn't deserve it, and unfortunately some devs was just terrible.

I can't believe this. Your higher-ranked staff brought a tremendous amount of gossip unto your lower-ranked staff which resulted in multiple firings that had occurred for something personal and that should have been kept to themselves. You obviously decided to barge in. I'd rather not bring up any names although I can name about 3 of those.

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Posted by MysticalDragon (Post 508412)
-Also, If I wasn't around what would get done :)

Potentially more work.

Kendama 09-26-2014 03:40 AM

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Posted by ??? (Post 508461)
I can't believe this. Your higher-ranked staff brought a tremendous amount of gossip unto your lower-ranked staff which resulted in multiple firings that had occurred for something personal and that should have been kept to themselves. You obviously decided to barge in. I'd rather not bring up any names although I can name about 3 of those.


Potentially more work.

What are you trying to prove? Whoever was fired is fired. That is in the past. This doesn't even have anything that will come out of it. What solution are you guys looking for in this thread? To bash a server you hate that you haven't played since release? To bash a server with upcoming content that you haven't seen yet you automatically assume everything about it.

imSupah 09-26-2014 03:53 AM

^ Please stop with the "upcoming release" content bs. Heard it to many times for this server that it seems like a moto now. Delteria: "Our upcoming content would make you really excited and please. Can't wait to show you all."

Fysez 09-26-2014 05:33 AM

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Posted by Kendama (Post 508499)
What are you trying to prove? Whoever was fired is fired. That is in the past. This doesn't even have anything that will come out of it. What solution are you guys looking for in this thread? To bash a server you hate that you haven't played since release? To bash a server with upcoming content that you haven't seen yet you automatically assume everything about it.

To be fair, it's mostly the part about *MD* that ruins the server. Crucial and rude of me to say, but a little constructive criticism would seriously benefit Delteria's current low stage.

??? 09-26-2014 09:22 PM

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Posted by Kendama (Post 508499)
What are you trying to prove? Whoever was fired is fired. That is in the past. This doesn't even have anything that will come out of it. What solution are you guys looking for in this thread? To bash a server you hate that you haven't played since release? To bash a server with upcoming content that you haven't seen yet you automatically assume everything about it.

What Fyse said.

Firstly, the past is real, which you don't realize. I don't look for solutions either, I discuss them.

"Hate" is a redundant word to use versus our own words and I'm sure that none of us hate Delteria, just the players of Graal are ******ed and make rumors. You're defending something that nobody cares about anymore and it'll take a while for a rise to be introduced to Delteria. Criticism is definitely needed, but not many people are interested in Delt anymore. I can't even seem to find the concept of it so there's no space for CC for me.

Jatz 09-26-2014 11:40 PM

Bomber arena is the best graal server.

http://images.graal.in/servers/Bomber_Arena.png

Kendama 09-27-2014 03:01 PM

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Posted by ??? (Post 508591)
What Fyse said.

Firstly, the past is real, which you don't realize. I don't look for solutions either, I discuss them.

"Hate" is a redundant word to use versus our own words and I'm sure that none of us hate Delteria, just the players of Graal are ******ed and make rumors. You're defending something that nobody cares about anymore and it'll take a while for a rise to be introduced to Delteria. Criticism is definitely needed, but not many people are interested in Delt anymore. I can't even seem to find the concept of it so there's no space for CC for me.

Im not defending MD. You actually have no idea, because I have criticized Delteria and MD more than anyone else on this thread.

And I did criticize them on the past, they made some pretty awful mistakes in the past such as the gralat deduction and letting certain bugs stick around for a long time.

So don't tell me what you think I am all about.
All I am saying is Delteria has been working and they have several neat things to introduce. You all deny that they do not have any interesting new content just because of what happened in the past. You fail to realize that I am not staff, but a mere critical player, and I am quite impressed with some of the updates and content that I have sneak peaked they have been working on.

Like MD said, they are working on actual real content updates instead of a hat update every month- so it does take some time, but it has much more to deliver when released.

Fysez 09-28-2014 12:57 AM

Enough of the "great content coming soon" already. Until we visually see it ourselves, it's not great.
I'm actually wondering if the content is being created on time or if they're taking their sweet time making everything (probably too lazy to add anything).
History also repeats itself. With the lack of decent development staff and a new manager; more than likely the time spent waiting for the content isn't worth it.

As for the "They made mistakes in the past" is correct, but it's not just the past. It's also present time, and potentially in the future as well.

??? 09-28-2014 01:34 AM

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Posted by Kendama (Post 508703)
Im not defending MD. You actually have no idea, because I have criticized Delteria and MD more than anyone else on this thread.

And I did criticize them on the past, they made some pretty awful mistakes in the past such as the gralat deduction and letting certain bugs stick around for a long time.

So don't tell me what you think I am all about.
All I am saying is Delteria has been working and they have several neat things to introduce. You all deny that they do not have any interesting new content just because of what happened in the past. You fail to realize that I am not staff, but a mere critical player, and I am quite impressed with some of the updates and content that I have sneak peaked they have been working on.

Like MD said, they are working on actual real content updates instead of a hat update every month- so it does take some time, but it has much more to deliver when released.

I don't care what you have to criticize or your opinions, leave that to MD to deal with. I honestly don't give a damn what they release because I'm not interested in Delteria nor was I ever, so stop bringing updates up that most likely won't be a game-changer(because nobody plays).

MrSimons 09-28-2014 03:31 AM

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Posted by Kendama (Post 508703)
Im not defending MD. You actually have no idea, because I have criticized Delteria and MD more than anyone else on this thread.

And I did criticize them on the past, they made some pretty awful mistakes in the past such as the gralat deduction and letting certain bugs stick around for a long time.

So don't tell me what you think I am all about.
All I am saying is Delteria has been working and they have several neat things to introduce. You all deny that they do not have any interesting new content just because of what happened in the past. You fail to realize that I am not staff, but a mere critical player, and I am quite impressed with some of the updates and content that I have sneak peaked they have been working on.

Like MD said, they are working on actual real content updates instead of a hat update every month- so it does take some time, but it has much more to deliver when released.

The point is that no one gives a **** if they've been working on stuff, until its actually released and is good.

Kendama 09-28-2014 06:24 AM

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Posted by ??? (Post 508787)
I don't care what you have to criticize or your opinions, leave that to MD to deal with. I honestly don't give a damn what they release because I'm not interested in Delteria nor was I ever, so stop bringing updates up that most likely won't be a game-changer(because nobody plays).

You don't give a damn about Delteria? Then stop posting on a thread about Delteria. Jeez the kids on these forums keep getting dumber and dumber every year

Cecily 09-28-2014 12:22 PM

MD seems to be the most active manager on graal 2014, i have yet to see a manager actively online on other servers. you should be thankful for the bug fixes.

here are some things that bugged me about delteria though.

Certain Rare Weapons no longer drop - excluding the holiday weapons, im talking weapons like black seed, blood reaver.. the main reason I have started playing this was to obtain blood reaver, my dream was crushed on day 1 though..

Bow aoe nerf - this made it impossible to hit goblin healers on walls now, sometimes it tends to miss even when im shooting on the same line as the monster. my friends that used to play said bows weren't as popular even before the nerf, there is hardly any reason to use it over a warrior/mage. because it's still slow, charge is cancelled when you are hit.

Difficult to find party - many people are either lazy or playing hide and seek so you end up playing by yourself being unable to do certain dungeons.. it would be a great addition if there could be a party matching system that teleports your party to the dungeon entrance when your members are ready.

??? 09-28-2014 06:21 PM

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Posted by Kendama (Post 508825)
You don't give a damn about Delteria? Then stop posting on a thread about Delteria. Jeez the kids on these forums keep getting dumber and dumber every year

Your stupidity level is off the charts. (which is one of the reasons I can't talk to anybody who plays this dreadful game)

Why can't I talk about or have an argument over something I don't play? And I'm 200% sure that you're not over 18 so I can't see you saying the word "kids" in an offensive way. I would love to stop this argument right now but you keep running back.

Kendama 09-28-2014 08:13 PM

You can have an argument, you are just have the poorest argument imaginable because you lack information on the server firsthand and resort to just believing what somebody else tells you.

Everything you said is wrong, about the server. But you can be ignorant, and pretend you know what you're talking about. I will just laugh at your posts in silence for now on


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