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Turd 11-13-2014 02:45 AM

Graalian times moving to Graal depot!
 
Well this all escalated quickly so now it's a discussion about Graal depot and "head stealing" have fun :D
Don't forget to check my site out: graaliantimes.weebly.com

Cookie Xanadu 11-13-2014 03:37 AM

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Posted by Turd (Post 516550)
Hi it's turd again and I've been hired by graaldepot to do graalian times on there! So all content and issues will now be on Graal depot!

Cool beans

Rufus 11-13-2014 12:16 PM

K not interested anymore.

Howl 11-13-2014 12:28 PM

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Posted by Rufus (Post 516574)
K not interested anymore.

^^^

Seriously, don't take the job at some website that steals customs. Keep it your own idea.

GOAT 11-13-2014 02:30 PM

Tell them to hire bubblelicious too.

Yog 11-13-2014 02:41 PM

I don't care that their site steals customs, but I care more so that it looks like a monkey shat on Wordpress and called it a site. It's so bad.

Turd 11-13-2014 03:16 PM

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Posted by Newton (Post 516594)
I don't care that their site steals customs, but I care more so that it looks like a monkey shat on Wordpress and called it a site. It's so bad.

Is prefer weebly tbh

Yog 11-13-2014 03:57 PM

Weebly is disgusting. It all makes sense now...

Violet* 11-13-2014 05:31 PM

*claps slowly* Hah...ha..ha.

Turd 11-13-2014 05:37 PM

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Posted by Newton (Post 516605)
Weebly is disgusting. It all makes sense now...

Well that's ur opinion, ur totally entitled to that.

Eugeen 11-13-2014 07:10 PM

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Posted by Rufus (Post 516574)
K not interested anymore.

+1 Like

TWIZ 11-13-2014 08:25 PM

I honestly would have tried to find a better sponser

Livid 11-13-2014 08:37 PM

you had me, you lost me.

Kendama 11-13-2014 08:57 PM

Youer admin!?!?

Turd 11-13-2014 09:08 PM

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Posted by Livid (Post 516655)
you had me, you lost me.

Honestly I don't understand why there's so much hate for graaldepot, maybe the fact that they steal heads.... That's not even under my control, I am not an admin in that field, I only write the newsletter. Graaldepot or not, the news is still the same,I wouldn't mind but I guess you guys are different. I dunno if I should continue with my own website, even if I did I've lost all my readers.

MrSimons 11-13-2014 09:30 PM

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Posted by Turd (Post 516662)
Honestly I don't understand why there's so much hate for graaldepot, maybe the fact that they steal heads.... That's not even under my control, I am not an admin in that field, I only write the newsletter. Graaldepot or not, the news is still the same,I wouldn't mind but I guess you guys are different. I dunno if I should continue with my own website, even if I did I've lost all my readers.

I don't know either. To be honest GraalDepot isn't that bad of a site. I feel like the negative stigma is from stuckup artists who can't stand the thought of not getting credit for something they made, or edited...

They also used to have a pretty nice looking layout. However now that they changed it up I'd agree with what Newton said.

Turd 11-13-2014 09:44 PM

What should I do with graalian times!
 
UGHHGH I'm so lost, many people are saying I've lost loyal reader because graalian times has now been moved to graaldepot. I really didn't think it would come to this! Please help me decide, stay with graaldepot or get bak to my own site?

eevee2 11-13-2014 09:47 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 516665)
I don't know either. To be honest GraalDepot isn't that bad of a site. I feel like the negative stigma is from stuckup artists who can't stand the thought of not getting credit for something they made, or edited...

They also used to have a pretty nice looking layout. However now that they changed it up I'd agree with what Newton said.

Some people want to keep their art private.
And that's why it make them so mad.

Colin 11-13-2014 09:58 PM

If you want private art message depot and they will remove it, if people stopped complaining they wouldn't be so blind to the fact that Graal Depot will gladly remove things.

Eugeen 11-13-2014 10:19 PM

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Posted by Colin (Post 516668)
If you want private art message depot and they will remove it, if people stopped complaining they wouldn't be so blind to the fact that Graal Depot will gladly remove things.

Trust me, they only remove stuff if they feel like it, I have had many friends who submitted removals and it never happened.

MrSimons 11-13-2014 10:21 PM

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Posted by eevee2 (Post 516667)
Some people want to keep their art private.
And that's why it make them so mad.

I guess you missed the whole "stuckup artists who can't stand not recieving credit" part of my post.

Narcosis 11-13-2014 10:55 PM

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Posted by eevee2 (Post 516667)
Some people want to keep their art private.
And that's why it make them so mad.

Once you upload anything to Graal, it becomes public property.

Most people who find someone using a head that they made would be flattered.

If anyone actually takes something that someone else made and claims it as their own, they're not even worth anyone's time. Because anyone that insecure probably already has a pretty crappy life anyway.

eevee2 11-13-2014 11:00 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 516672)
I guess you missed the whole "stuckup artists who can't stand not recieving credit" part of my post.

Bruh if it was all about credits alot wouldn't give a damn hyena about it.
But some people wants to inspire people to make their own custom.
Being bad at gfx isn't an excuse for stealing someone's else, it's something you can develop with time.
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Posted by Narcosis (Post 516677)
Once you upload anything to Graal, it becomes public property.

Most people who find someone using a head that they made would be flattered.

If anyone actually takes something that someone else made and claims it as their own, they're not even worth anyone's time. Because anyone that insecure probably already has a pretty crappy life anyway.

If most people jump off a bridge would you?

Narcosis 11-13-2014 11:08 PM

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Posted by eevee2 (Post 516679)
Bruh if it was all about credits alot wouldn't give a damn hyena about it.
But some people wants to inspire people to make their own custom.
Being bad at gfx isn't an excuse for stealing someone's else, it's something you can develop with time.

If most people jump off a bridge would you?

A lot of people actually use heads from Graal depot and edit them to their personal tastes. So in fact, the creators of this art are inspiring others. A lot of people can't make a head from scratch, but Graal Depot gives them something they can start with, and make their own creations from.

And how tall is this bridge..? :unsure:

Fulgore 11-13-2014 11:14 PM

I would do whatever seems right to you. Maybe do a poll and see how many people truly care and decide based off of that.

MrSimons 11-13-2014 11:25 PM

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Posted by eevee2 (Post 516679)
If most people jump off a bridge would you?

That has absolutely nothing to do with what he said.

Rufus 11-13-2014 11:49 PM

My issue is not with the content of their site, it's the attempted monopoly of Graal-related web content. I like the idea of many people having Graal-related websites, each specializing and pushing their own individual content. You have a solid idea here, you don't need to do it under someone else's umbrella for them to take credit and advertising revenue from it.

TWIZ 11-14-2014 03:56 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 516665)
I don't know either. To be honest GraalDepot isn't that bad of a site. I feel like the negative stigma is from stuckup artists who can't stand the thought of not getting credit for something they made, or edited...

They also used to have a pretty nice looking layout. However now that they changed it up I'd agree with what Newton said.

I hate them for a different reason... They stole my website idea :dazed:

Turd 11-14-2014 04:19 AM

Graalian times will now be a free agent website again!
 
I have made an executive descision to return I my own site, taken all the feedback and comments made, I think I would enjoy it more of Icontinied my own site! Make sure to check out the site if u haven't already! Graaliantimes.weebly.com!!


I don't expect to get more readers I just enjoy doing my own website even if it's not to neat and professional.

eevee2 11-15-2014 05:11 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 516685)
That has absolutely nothing to do with what he said.

He said most people would be flattered that people steal their gfx.
So if I tell you that most people jump off a bridge would you do it?
It's not because most people can be flattered that everyone will be.

Yog 11-15-2014 05:15 PM

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Posted by eevee2 (Post 516938)
He said most people would be flattered that people steal their gfx.
So if I tell you that most people jump off a bridge would you do it?

I'd be flattered if someone stole my art. But I wouldn't jump off of a bridge if someone else did. Another person who had their art stolen isn't influencing me to be flattered. Plus they're both kinda unrelated.

Bad analogy.

eevee2 11-15-2014 05:39 PM

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Posted by Narcosis (Post 516682)
A lot of people actually use heads from Graal depot and edit them to their personal tastes. So in fact, the creators of this art are inspiring others. A lot of people can't make a head from scratch, but Graal Depot gives them something they can start with, and make their own creations from.

And how tall is this bridge..? :unsure:

Yes but it is not the goal to make them inspired by editing customs.
The goal is to inspire to make gfx without having to edit/recolor.
And if you can't make a head from scratch then try again.
Practice and learn. Try and retry. Nothing is ugly unless you decide it is.
Nothing is to waste or to be useless, everything is to be one step closer from perfection.
Graal depot don't allow people to get to their full capacity.
It keep them stuck to the base level where they can't figure out how to start the head.
The ones who suceeded in gfx are the ones who developped their own styles, if you create a head based on someone's else style, you will be staying with incomplete skills and when facing challenges that demands you to go past your limits you aren't able to fully get through the challenges. And it makes them think they aren't good enough, they loose their interests in creating for editing the ones who already learned that their creations will always be awesome for as long as they will think they are. Others do not decide for us. If you created something you must be proud of it.
Ask yourself, are you proud of your creations? Or of the creations of the others?
To be better, you must first learn to accept your creations before the other's can accept yours.
The bridge is as tall as the ignorance of the human that is on top of it.
The most of all will not always be the ones that will survive.
Because it is the few left behind that learns the most.
The pack will need each other to survive, while the lone wolf can take care of himself on his own.

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Posted by Newton (Post 516939)
I'd be flattered if someone stole my art. But I wouldn't jump off of a bridge if someone else did. Another person who had their art stolen isn't influencing me to be flattered. Plus they're both kinda unrelated.

Bad analogy.

If most people are flattered, it doesn't mean everyone will be.
If most people jumps off the bridge, it doesn't mean everyone will be.
What those two have in common is that "the most" is not always right.

Yog 11-15-2014 08:29 PM

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Posted by eevee2 (Post 516943)
If most people are flattered, it doesn't mean everyone will be.

My mind has been blown.

Jester Lapse 11-16-2014 03:49 PM

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Posted by eevee2 (Post 516938)
He said most people would be flattered that people steal their gfx.
So if I tell you that most people jump off a bridge would you do it?
It's not because most people can be flattered that everyone will be.

Coming from someone who steals and edits graphics himself, your argument looses all validity

slyde 11-16-2014 05:17 PM

Can they just lower the price...because this whole stealing stuff for paying a private price isn't worth the price because it has lots of holes as everyone can see.

Can graal make an option for public for head and body for half the price like they do with shields. I think then there would be less motivation for stealing privates because of the public heads that are being made would balance it out.

Zetectic 11-16-2014 05:32 PM

graal depot is very useful. I like their font books.
but I agree with rufus. graal depot is the biggest graal website.
so just start fresh with ur own website.

eevee2 11-17-2014 07:13 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 517186)
Coming from someone who steals and edits graphics himself, your argument looses all validity

Your argument is irrelevant since I didn't steal or edit anything.

Distorted 11-19-2014 02:26 AM

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Posted by slyde (Post 517210)
Can they just lower the price...because this whole stealing stuff for paying a private price isn't worth the price because it has lots of holes as everyone can see.

Can graal make an option for public for head and body for half the price like they do with shields. I think then there would be less motivation for stealing privates because of the public heads that are being made would balance it out.

Public heads? Whaaat?

Turd 11-19-2014 03:47 PM

Anyway I can change the name of this thread??

Jester Lapse 11-19-2014 08:01 PM

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Posted by Turd (Post 518054)
Anyway I can change the name of this thread??

Can you stfu already with your 300 threads on the same thing?

Turd 11-19-2014 08:12 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 518160)
Can you stfu already with your 300 threads on the same thing?

I only have two threads :D

Livid 11-19-2014 08:38 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 518160)
Can you stfu already with your 300 threads on the same thing?

so much hostility, many wow.


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